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How can we stop censorship from affecting S/M?

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How can we stop censorship from affecting S/M?
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>>29491954
Not putting eleven year olds in Bikinis in the first place is a good start.
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>>29491980
No thanks
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>>29491980
We better have something like this again at least.
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It requires a blood sacrifice.

Are you willing to give yourself up for the greater good, OP?
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>>29491990
>le 8gag meme
tumblr might be more to your taste if you don't like freedom of speech.
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>>29491954
I thought this stale meme died years ago
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>>29492015
Freedom of speech does not apply to privately owned websites (4chan). They have full authority to remove anything they don't want on their site, you whiny faggots included.
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>>29491980
This guy has the right idea.
Don't put any stupid shit in that would need to be censored.
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>>29491954
>>>/v/
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>>29491954
>these threads are coming back
no
No
NO
NO!!!!
I CAN'T TAKE IT AGAIN
NOT LIKE THIS
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>>29491980
>>29492153
>Amerikeks
>"""Land of the free"""
>Can't dress up their 11 year old girl characters in video games up in bikinis

lmao fucking losers
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>>29491980
Kill yourself slut.
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>>29492183
I don't know why you would hate these threads, it's a lot of fun to argue with yourself until newshits show up and take it seriously.
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>>29492199
You're shitting up the board.
kys
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>>29492208
>implying there's enough quality to begin with to "ruin"
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>>29492153
>you're free to say whatever you want
>as long as you don't say anything I don't like
This is what Free Speech is now.
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NoA: We simply can't have 12 year-old children wear these outfits in America
Guy: Why don't we rise their age in the game?
NoA: !!!
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>>29492217
This is negative quality.
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>>29491980
This needs to be the default outfit of chicken-chan.
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>he doesn't avoid censorship entirely by playing all his games in the original nipponese language
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>>29492252
Fucking haram. I can see her hands
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>>29492266
This wouldn't be as big a deal if they didn't region lock their consoles.
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>>29491954
English trailer had Olivia's sexy walk animation cut.But i dont see a Pokemon game being censored.
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>>29492315
You say that now, but regressive liberals have been gaining more ground in recent years. It used to be that liberals represented free speech and sexual freedom, but I guess millennials had to rebel against their parents somehow so they became neo-puritans.
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>>29491990
>boogeyman posting

>>29492315
This is the only bothersome part.
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It's literally impossible because it's the same file in every region.
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>>29491954
Treehouse has nothing to do with localizing Pokemon games, as that's all done by TPCi. Mentioning Pokemon in your post does not make this Pokemon-related, just as WHAT WOULD HIS TEAM BE???????? doesn't. Go fuck a donkey.
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>>29492199
>It's a lot of fun to argue with yourself
If you're a schizoid, sure.
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>>29492453
The election is almost here.
People are flooding into /pol/ and then spilling into the rest of 4chan.
It'll be gone by the time the game releases but not by when it leaks
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>>29491980
This to be honest. Its Pokemon, it has a certain air of innocence to it. The protags are children and we're seeing the world through their eyes. There shouldn't be any sexual content from the get go.

>ib4 "go back to normieland"

I'm no different than the rest of you, but if I need to satiate my fetishes I'll look at porn thank you, not Pokemon.
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>>29492535
this is the most well founded post in the thread
thanks anon
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>>29491954
Nothing here was of any consequence to their respective game. No one worth taking seriously actually was mad about this.

Adults don't give a fuck that a pre-teen looking character didn't get her bikini. Grow the fuck up.
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>>29492535
There's a lot of countries/cultures which are fine with seeing nude children and the like precisely because it represents innocence or sometimes playfulness. The US is one of the retarded countries which assumes it has to be sexual. Even when sexuality is used meaningfully regressive Americans are often the ones making the biggest noise about it.

That being said, bikinis for loli characters like most of the games /v/ bitches about are pretty clearly meant for fetishists, but it's annoying when the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater. The Fatal Frame one probably counts since her skimpy outfit actually had a point to it in one of the scenes.
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>>29492603
I find that the baby rerely gets throws out witht he bathwater. In Japanese games fan service is typically just that, fan service. The Fatal Frame example? They can come up with whatever plot related reasons they want for the character needing to wear that, but at the end of the day its sexy lingerie and a thong. If they needed her undressed or in something skimpy for a plot related reason they could have done it in a more tasteful way. And to be honest I don't mind fanservice in most instances. Love DoA and game like that, but basically there's a time and a place. I pick up a game like that knowing its a fanservice game.

I don't however play games like Pokemon or Fire Emblem for fanserivce. Both series had no sexual fanservice when they started, and so my interest in them isn't tied to that. Not everything has to appeal to my dick, and sometimes when certain things try, it kills the atmosphere or feels massively out of place.
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>>29492535
>The protags are children and we're seeing the world through their eyes
It's clearly been too long since you've been a child, life through the eyes of a 10 years old is certainly not asexual.
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>>29492293
In the case of pokemon you can chose japanese even on a US or EU card.
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>>29492555
Censorship in Fire Emblem was pretty bad, though the problem was more with the dialogue changes than the removal of the petting mini-game. Still it was pretty clear they were so afraid of a M rating they went full retard to sanitize absolutely everything in that game.
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>>29492801
I dunno what kind of deviant ass 10 year old you were but I remember childhood quite vividly. I'm not implying its asexual. I masturbated, it felt good, but at 10? I didn't really understand much of what I was doing or why. It just felt good so I did it.

Similarly, nudity in movies certainly aroused me, but again, at age 10, I had very little understanding of my feelings or my bodies reaction. It was just stuff that happened. I didn't actively think about it too much.

In any case the average ten year old doesn't actively see through a sexual lens. They haven't even begin to hit puberty yet.
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>>29492796
I get not liking fan service being stuck where it doesn't belong, but for the Fatal Frame one, if that was the problem it would've been enough to remove the outfit as a bonus DLC and kept it for the important scene (it dealt with her insecurities as a gravure model). But then again, if they were so intent on keeping the game's "integrity" they wouldn't offer bonus DLC outfits that kill the mood to begin with- they just replaced them with shit like Samus's outfit and the like, which are just as bad in that regard.

That aside, it was an M rated game. Does it really matter at that point?
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>>29492801

Furthermore, maybe you're looking at this through too much of an American lens (sorry if you're not American). But I find that with drugs, alcohol, and sex. American kids tend to loose their innocence way earlier than kids in other parts of the world.

I've taught ESL in both Korea and Japan and JHS aged kids in both countries are EXTREMELY innocent about the world around them. Drugs are obviously non-existent, but most wouldn't even dream of drinking under-aged, and the very idea of sex remains a mystery to them much much longer than it does their American counterparts.
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>>29492894
Nah, it doesn't. We're kind of off on a tangent now. Fatal Frame is a mature horror game, Pokemon is an E for everyone child-like adventure about befriending monsters.
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>>29492916
And bikinis aren't for everyone now? What is this? The 50's?
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>>29492948
I belive this started with "bikini's for 11 year olds" specifically. Nothing wrong with the swimmers or w/e wearing bikinis. Does our 11 year old protag need one? No. And you actively want her to have one; you may have a problem.
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>>29492969
Well, it's a tropical setting so I guess there's that. But unless there's some kind of beach minigame or event in the game it'd be pretty apparent what people whining about it would be looking for.

Not like they would need it, we're in the age where people are going to rip the models and just straight up make porn with them in like 2 or 3 months anyway.
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>>29492969
I don't see how my wants are relevant, the point is a kid wearing a bikini isn't anything special and doesn't contradict in anyway th E for Everyone part.
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mfw my sis didn't wear bikini tops untill she was 12.
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>>29493021
IDK what kinda world you live in buddy, but typically 11 year olds don't wear bikinis. A one piece is okay, but 11? in a bikini? What kinda kids parents would be cool with that?

I get it, alola is hot, there are beaches. Kids go to beaches and swim etc. But bikinis are inherently sexual. Thats their purpose. a bikini is literally swimsuit+sexy. If our MCs need to swim or have beach attire, a one-piece fits that role without sexualizing an 11 year old. (although granted some people will still find it sexy...)
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>>29491954
By growing up and not being autistic.
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>>29491954
Vote for Trump of course.
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>>29493111
Didn't both Trump and Clinton shit on video games at some point in their careers?

Also nice trips.
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>>29492191
>Land of the Free*
>*unless you're the pedo scum we were trying to get away from in Europe
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>>29493081
/thread
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>>29491954
>im-fucking-implying

She was shown to us completely uncensored.
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>>29493562
They still drew her with a huge necklace that conveniently hides the cleavage they couldn't show.
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>>29491954
By downgrading and getting the Japanese version. You DID downgrade, right?
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>>29492191
>>29491994
>>29492252
>>29492191

>pedophiles being this desperate

Ironically they throw a hissy fit over trans and gay characters.

It's one thing to be a hypocrite. It's another to be self-serving sociopathic pervert trash. Kill yourselves.
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>>29493562
They have the same necklace
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>>29493600
And that isn't censorship.
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>>29492231
This desu

I couldn't give a rats' ass about fanservice but I'm sick of playing a 10 year old at this point. This is why seeing Red + Blue ingame as they are is exciting.

Incidentally, Bravely Default (one of the most notorious examples of this kind of """"censorship""""" did this really well and we ended up with 4 awesome protags whose age made sense for the story, instead of a gang of literal children with obnoxious voice acting (japanese Edea in particular can go eat a dick).
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>>29493755
Never said it was.
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>>29492230
study positive freedoms and negative freedoms Kant Mills Dworkin and the literature etc before you even begin to say 'freedom of speech'

then we can talk about 'freedom'
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>>29492230
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>>29492252
>Hands
>Feets
>Eyes
She deserves rape on Gotland, Sweden
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>>29493647
>>29494668
Hello Tumblr
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>>29494979
How does it feel to be retarded?
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>>29494668
This is a really, really stupid little comic, and doesn't even provide a fitting retort in the context that you intended it to.
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>>29495084
t. Tumblr
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>>29492453
>muh butthurt pol obsession

>>29493562
They cut her cutscene short. Compare the western and Japanese trailers.

>>29493647
>dat reaching
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>>29494581
Scantily-clad cartoon girls isn't negatively affecting anyone except the feelings of oversensitive prudes who don't even buy said products. They should not be catered to.
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>>29494668
Hello tumblr and feminism
I still see you support having people fired for having certain opinions people don't like.
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>>29495231
>but muh dik
There's this wondrous thing you may have heard of called the internet, which provides plenty of boobs of all varieties for free.

There's no conspiracy against free speech or sex going on contrary to what your laughable echo chambers keep telling you.
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>>29492231
That was done for Fire emblem and people still complained about it
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>There's this wondrous thing you may have heard of called the internet, which provides plenty of boobs of all varieties for free.
>There's no conspiracy against free speech or sex going on contrary to what your laughable echo chambers keep telling you.
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>>29493647
>>29494581
>>29494668
>>29495382
WHITE KNIGHT
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>>29495544
Sorry some people happen to be decent human beings and are capable of enjoying something without literally needing wank material in everything.
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>>29495643
>>29495544
>>29494668
>>29493647
>>29492191
>>29491994
Ladies please, you're all faggots.
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>>29491980
Because eleven year olds don't use bikini in real life.Oh wait,i think its better man don't go to beach anymore.
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>>29495482
>>29495544
I'm sure when you guys get past puberty you'll get it.
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>>29492796
>Not everything has to appeal to my dick

You know what you're a smart dude and this is what most don't get
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Sun and Moon are being localized by Pokemon Company International, not Treehouse. We should be OK.
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>>29495737
>>29493074
And before you say shit i live in a beach and i see a lot of leven year old girls using bikinis(and there is nothing sexual on it).But maybe you americans see things in a different way.
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>>29492015
>he thinks freedom of speech and freedom of critism is the same thing
I bet you also think it's a violation of your rights that yelling "BOMB" in an airport will get you arrested
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>>29493647
You indeed spilled the truth
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>>29492555
...
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>>29495088
It's extremely relevant when people try to say freedom of speech and don't even correctly know what it is
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>>29491954
>>29492191
>>29492199
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>>29492336
>he thinks the generation with the highest teen pregnancy rate since the Middle Ages is "neo-puritan"
Holy shit you are actually retarded and literally just inventing a boogeyman that doesn't actually exist.

It's not THEM DARN MILLENIALS that are ruining video games, it's the fucking old men who still think electricity is the devil that are running these companies.
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>There's this wondrous thing you may have heard of called the internet, which provides plenty of boobs of all varieties for free.
>There's no conspiracy against free speech or sex going on contrary to what your laughable echo chambers keep telling you.

What did she mean by that?
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>>29495849
>he can't read
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>>29495806
But the point of including an 11 year old in a bikini on a videogame is to serve some fetish to ugly fat guys, you'd have to be deluded to deny this
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>>29495832
To be fair, the support conversations in Fates were pretty shitty so they might've actually done us good by leaving that one out.
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>>29495886
You're missing neurones
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>>29492801
>implying it HASNT been that long since you were 10
Literally underaged ban.
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>>29495908
>he can't read
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>>29495887
And what of it? If children are so innocent then they won't see that.
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>>29495925
Are you basically justifying having kids sexualized for the purpose of giving grown ass men material to fap to?
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>>29495887
>>29495943
>boiling it down to Men

Tumblr confirmed sexist.
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>>29495925
You sound like a full blown pedo
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>>29495943
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>>29495981
You sound like a witch-hunter.
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>people getting mad about particular alignments of pixels

When did Tumblr invade /vp/?
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>>29495981
Did you just assume his sexual preference you privileged bigot?
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Why is /vp/ filled with so many normies?
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TPCi doesn't do these things because they recognize that they have to appeal to children everywhere. That's why you don't see the Game Corner anymore. They need that CERO A/ESRB E/PEGI 3.
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>>29495960
>implying men ARENT the target audience for video games
If you believe that they are censoring the games for people that aren't even part of the target demographic, you really are dumber than those stupid bitches
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>>29491954
haven't seen this shit copypasta in a while
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>>29496009
Lmao, poor dat
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>>29492535
Do you forgot you was child before?
Children like erotic stuff too.
We were not angels when we was child.
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>>29496054
>i-it's the evil men!

When did you mean by that, Tumblr?
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>>29496057
I don't know if I'd call it "shit" considering how successful it is most of the time.
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>>29496021
>he still thinks 4chan is a super secret clubhouse that no one knows about
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>>29496074
>when
Like I said
Literally more retarded than a woman.
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>4chan is now unironically supporting censorship of pixels
>4chan is now genuinely upset about pixels offending their sensibilities

What went wrong, lads?
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>>29496085
It doesn't need to be sekret club, it's just normalfags coming in and telling the people that were always here that they don't belong here.
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>>29496110
They rejected Trump and will be taking Shillary. It's sad to say but the SJWs have won.
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>>29496105
>tumblr absolutele fuming
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>>29493770
Edea is literally Mio from Nichijou how can you not love it?
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>>29491954
Assuming there is censorship, I have a Japanese 3DS, will the models be censored if I choose to play the game in English in the beginning?

How was this handled in previous editions? Was XY ORAS even censored?

I know Japanese but I still want to be able to know how Pokemon are called here, so I want to play it in English.
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>>29496152

Best girl from BD/BS
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>>29496220
They've all been censored to shit. Dialogue changes that go against the original Japanese intention, removal of features like the Game Corner, changing Jynx's skin color for no reason, etc. It's completely unplayable at this point, just like Fire Emblem.
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>>29496292
Yeah, but was Jynx recolored if you buy the game from the Japanese E-shop but choose to play in English?
Or was it recolored in all Versions?

Textual changes are a price I'd be willing to pay for getting used to English Pokemon names and knowing what people talk about.
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>>29496220
There's almost never going to be shit that isn't "censored" in all versions of the game because Pokemon is a worldwide franchise now, and as such they'll do stuff to appeal to children and placate parents everywhere.

Of all the franchises to bitch about censorship for, Pokemon is really not one of them.
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>>29496292
>they slightly changed a Pokémon she skin tone
>LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
Awww does da widdle baby need a nap after her tantrum?
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>>29496074
What?
How did you even get that from the post?
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>>29496292
Reminder that old Fire Emblem fans hate you waifufags that turned the series into a dating simulator
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>>29496431
t. Tumblr
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>>29496152
>>29496225
Mah Ancheimians
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>>29496073

Please refer to this post: >>29492871

Children experience biological sexual urges, however it's rarely "erotic" as you put it, and they rarely understand the implications, causes, or reasons why they feel that way.

If a child genuinely has "erotic feelings" before puberty its an issue. Something has gone wrong. Either they have been the victim of sexual assault or molestation or they have been exposed to pornography at much too early an age.

Either way; comprehension of eroticism before puberty is not natural.
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>>29495643
Sorry that some people aren't pussies and can still enjoy games that have parts you find gross
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>>29495925

If I were a character designer. For example Sugimori or whoever designed the female MC, I wouldn't dare put her in a bikini. Even if the intention was benign all it takes is one trip to this shithole to see all the "Chicken-chan is cute. CUTE!" and "Why is Chicken-chan so sexy?" threads to realize what you'd be fueling.
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>>29496422
Nice to see CTR shills are here.

>>29496448
I've been playing since the GBA era. The people you talk about are FOR censorship for some reason. And reminder to you that "oh it's always been this way" is NEVER an excuse for SJW's to ruin your games.
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>>29496788
SJWs didn't ruin Fire Emblem. Waifufag otaku did.
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>>29491997

I'll be pissed off if there aren't any crop tops or anything, I mean it's Hawaii for fuck's sake.
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>>29496741
>If I had a job, I would do my job assuming everyone was a susceptible moron able to be damaged by pixels

What did you mean by that, Tumblr?
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>>29496821
No ones implying that it hurts anyone. All I'm saying is that if you were creating a character, would you be cool knowing a bunch of pedos were your creation as fapbait?
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>>29496904
>I would shackle my occupation because of a boogeyman

What was your intention there, Tumblr?
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>>29492796
>Both series had no sexual fanservice when they sarted
Fire Emblem Fates censorship isn't reduced to "sexual fanservice" like skimpy outifts, which are the least of it's problems (and in fact they did keep underwear, for some retarded reason), they removed a petting minigame (which was incredibly inocuous by the way, with only a couple of suggestive lines), changed supports and some relationships were completely neutered.

And some of those are things that FE has had since long ago, in fact if FE4 came out in this day it would be censored to hell and back.

And Pokemon has always had suggestive females.

Bravely Default in the picture has no place being censored either, it's just a bonus costume, same with Fatal Frame and Xenoblade Chronicles. Heck, Bravely Second had a whole class theme changed around because Native Americans are somehow taboo.
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>>29496925

>boogeyman

There are literally multiple threads a day on this board about "how sexy chicken-chan is"
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>>29496991
>he can't handle the memes

But what did you mean, Tumblr?
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>>29495396
I wish that was the case, but Fates had all swimsuits removed instead.

The only age they changed was Elise's, and they did it in a retarded way (repeating numerous times she's an adult woman).
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>>29496988

I think you're confusing sexual themes with fanservice.

Yes there has been sexual themes in FE, shit like the petting and underwear? Thats fan-service.

Same with Pokemon, being obscurely suggestive is much different than flat out fan service.
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>>29496808
>>29496448
I've played every game in the series, waifufags were always a huge part of the fandom you retard, the only difference is that they didn't fully pander to them in-game until recently, but merchandise and manga have always existed, in fact FE1 has an old OVA where Sheeda is just a Tsundere.

And no, Conquest is great, waifufagging hasn't ruined shit, otaku pandering has nothing to do with Awakening or Birthright flaws, which is their easy difficulty to appeal to the casual masses, this started with FE7.
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>>29491954
Let's be honest though, the petting minigame was dumb, and we got the better version. The cut bath outfits do suck though.
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>>29497061
The post I replied to said "sexual fanservice". And no, being suggestive IS fanservice, people get off to that, Misty using swimsuits? Lewd female trainers? BW2 having a dating sidequest? All fanservice.

Also the point with FE was that fanservice was not the only thing they censored.
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>>29497125
No.
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If people are actually harmed by the visual content in a video game, it's their own fault for not being able to segregate fiction from reality.
That particular brand of fiction should not be tailored to people too unintelligent to appreciate it.
Art shouldn't be shackled whatsoever; everything should be allowed, granted it's prefaced with the proper warning. Content isn't the issue, it's the content's meaning. If it has genuine malicious intent, that's when it should be censored.
#KeepTheKini
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>>29497193
Sorry but no, don't put sexualized content in a kids game and there won't be any issues whatsoever.

Fuck off.
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>>29495891
Translatorfag here. That was actually one of the better supports. On top of that, the next rank still references it happening.

It ticks me off that Fates controversy got boiled down and strawmanned to bikini wank rather than the removed dialog, rewritten characters, and translations so inconsistent they're on par with guess subs (Nyx gives at least five different explanations for her curse in English).
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>>29497162
>we got the better version
I never do skinship in the western version, there is no point unless you're lucky enough to get the unit you want in the list.

The petting minigame was fine, it wasn't great but there was no reason to remove it, along with some irrelevant but still endearing character lines (not even the suggestive ones, if that was the problem).
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>>29497038
I'd like to believe its just memes. Honestly. It would be nice it it was just ironic meme-ing, but this board is a shithole filled with young 20 something males who want to fuck cartoon monsters half the time. Maybe you think the "chicken-chan is sexy" threads are just a meme, but I can assure at least half the posters in those threads are serious about it.
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>>29497188
Yes.

And FE is not a dating sim either, anyone who says that clearly has never played a dating sim and just use the term for anything with a marriage or pairing system.
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>>29496292
What a dumb dramatic post
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>>29496448
Reminder that they're essentially the Genwunners of fire emblem.
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>>29497242
>And FE is not a dating sim either
You're full of it. There's a reason Fates is widely considered the worst FE game(s) in the series by all except the otaku morons. The series is at an all time low.
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>>29496788
>they called me a baby for my tantrum
>they must support shillary!!!!
Not even close dumbass.
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>>29497193
No one, at any point in this thread ever said anyone was harmed by this. Most people just expressed opinions about how it didn't fit the worldview of the pokemon games. How its didn't mesh with the child-like nature of the adventure. No one is getting hurt.

It's about the integrity of the art and the atmosphere and what fits and doesn't. Again not everything has to appeal to everyone's fucking dicks, malicious intent or not.
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>>29497286
Exactly, don't put bikinis and shit in a game for kids, it's that simple.
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>>29497275
reminder that you're replying to a shitposter, because "old" fans (as in, the typical post FE7 that most of us are) opinions are divided as fuck, aside from hating how stupidly easy Awakening is.
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>>29497125
Let's be honest here, there may have been "waifus", but the games didn't pander to them. It's also the fact that Kamui and Robin get their dicks sucked by every single person, and are just too perfect to fail. If they were people and their conversations had meaning it'd be fine, but the way it stands it's just weird.
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Why is /vp/ so fucking infested with tumblr. Fuck off newfaggots, you don't belong here. Go back to tumblr and suck a tranny's limp dick.
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>>29497283
Fates isn't considered the worst though. As a game it's much better than Awakening. Mostly due to Conquest though.
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>>29497311
>but the games didn't pander to them
Yeah, they did.
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>>29497306
bikinis are fine so long as its on adult characters as I stated before. The swimmers on the water routes, fine
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>>29497333
It is as far as reception goes and considering it's basically killed the series for good.
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>>29497210
The lines about being tickled? Whatever. You can still hear the regular lines about love and shit if you go and do it. There's only like 4 for each character though so they get really repetitive.
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>>29497283
Regardless of how you're completely wrong calling it a dating sim, as it doesn't play at all like a dating sim (it doesn't even have "dating" gameplay, just fucking supports), you're still wrong with your other assertion.

>You're full of it. There's a reason Fates is widely considered the worst FE game(s) in the series by all except the otaku morons. The series is at an all time low.
Conquest is one of the best entries in the series, with LTC players and hardcore fans loving it.

I bet you even love FE8, even though it's one of the easiest and dumbest games in the series.
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>>29491954
can these threads please die already?

Thanks

Before you call my a SJW, I'm a white Christian male.
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>>29497342
So it's totally fine for big tits to be shoved in kids faces? Think about what you're saying.

Keep that stuff out. It doesn't matter who it's own, it shouldn't be in a series like Pokemon.
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>>29497360
No, lines like Zero haivng nightmares or Mozu being shy about her freckles, endearing lines that were removed for a stupid reason.

The minigame being dumb is no reason to be okay with removed content.

Also there are more than 4 lines per character.
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>>29497325

>just want to enjoy a fun sense of adventure with Pokemon
>tired of the waifumon threads
>tired of "age is just a number" threads

Listen buddy, I'm just as much a degenerate as you. Been coming to this site since 2007. All I'm saying is keep it out of my favorite games. I'll go to /h/ or /gif/ if I wanna crank it, not Pokemon. I like to separate business and pleasure.
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>>29497359
What the fuck are you talking about? The game sold incredibly well! FE is now a main staple game to Nintendo. And reception wise idk what you're talking about people complain about Fates yes, but it's much more about Awakening, Fates can at least be challenging, in Conquest at least.
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Just a quick reminder that Gamefreak does the localizations of its own games, not Treehouse.
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>>29497359
>Sold incredibly well compared to most entries aside from Awakening
>"killed the series for good"
Are you a retard?
Reception was great too, fuck off, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>29496120
Normalfags were the ones who used 4chan the most during the beginning.

If anything the weirdos are the parasites here.
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>>29497405
Exactly, this right here is it.

You want to fap to porn, go ahead and do it on your own time, nobody else needs to see it while playing a video game.
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>>29497396
I feel like you're false-flagging. I'm making a legit argument about whats acceptable and you're taking some totalitarian stance about it all to make our side look like SJWs. Am I correct?
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>>29497202
Hi, Tumblr!
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>>29491954
The best part, the Bravely Second censorship went so far in one direction, it became super racist instead with their whole "Cowboys vs. Indians" replacement. SJWs are idiots.
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>>29497222
>being this much of a newfag

What was the implication there, Tumblr?
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>>29497311
>If they were people and their conversations had meaning it'd be fine
But they are.
The writing has been lacking ever since FE6 but it's far from as weird as you make it sound.

>It's also the fact that Kamui and Robin get their dicks sucked by every single person, and are just too perfect to fail.
That happens with most FE MCs aside from Jugdral ones.

>Let's be honest here, there may have been "waifus", but the games didn't pander to them.
As I said, they certainly didn't do it in-game like they do in the new entries, but merchandise and manga has always existed.
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>>29497286
That would be fine if the opinions in the thread were indicative of the usual.
Usually people just think this shit is genuinely harmful, hence why there're such outcries for censorship in the west.
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>>29497456
>totalitarian stance
How? My stance is that it's a kids game, it shouldn't have anything sexual or potentially pandering. That's not "totalitarian" so much as just my own opinion. It just doesn't belong here.

There's swimwear for women besides bikinis, there's no genuine reason to design a character wearing it, adult or not, unless it's meant to meant to pander to the male gaze.
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>>29497509
>mfw when I do in fact have a Tumblr
>mfw I use it to follow all the high quality niche porn blogs
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>>29492847
>waaahh I can't pet my waifu CENSORSHIP CENSORSHIP CENSORSHIP

go back to /v/eddit
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>>29497564
>using Tumblr for its god-given purpose
My nigga.
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>>29497405
>>29497443
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>>29497564
What did you mean by that, Tumblr?
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>>29497541
>male-gaze

Ya blew it. Confirmed for false-flagging and trying to sabotage my stance.
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>>29497406
Top 3 hardest FE games are FE12 (Maniac-Lunatic), Conquest-Lunatic and FE5.
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>>29495832
I thought that one was funny and fitting too.

Why the fuck would the two least talkative characters break out into a long ass conversation like in the japanese version? I like how they just kinda stood across the room and smirked at each other
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>>29497618
>Sabotage
I'm arguing against you retard, in case that wasn't obvious from the get go, I'm not trying to "stabotage" anything except your paranoia at this point. If "male gaze" triggers you then how about "wank material"? Or does that fuck with you as well?
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>>29497605
I meant that Tumblr is a large scale website that caters to many demographics other than those of purely "SJW" ideas like to you seem to believe. For example there are entire sections of tumblr dedicated to re-blogging hardcore pornography. I demonstrated that by explaining to you that referring to me as "Tumblr" is of little consequence considering I have a Tumblr tab open right now and am currently scrolling through and endless loop on adult animated gifts with one hand while the other stimulates me genitalia.
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>>29497541
>>29497698
t. Sexist Tumblrite
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>>29492555
>retarded censorship didn't matter because well known people didn't care
I did care, and I would care about censorship in any game just out of principle, like any decent person should.

>>29497692
Because it made sense and they're nowhere near as silent in the Japanese version in the first place. Saizou is in fact more of a cunt.
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>>29497716
t. Tumblr
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>>29495382
Way to miss the point.

>n-no! It has to be yuh dick and yuh porn
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>>29496110
Because complaining about "censorship" in video games is literally the most reddit thing you can do.
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>>29497567
>ywn be this mad

Jesus, how embarrassing for you.
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>>29497812
t. false-flagging Redditor
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>>29496152
Because nichijou is pure garbage and japanese voice actors sound like leaking balloons
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>>29497698

I'm saying that I came into this thread trying to argue that underage characters such as our new MC shouldn't be clad in bikinis, and in general that overtly sexual content doesn't being in Pokemon, but with some leniency in certain situations, ex: female swimmer trainer class, as not to sound too harsh about it. After all even the opinion that an underage character should have limited clothing options is enough to send half this site screaming "SJW"

By you throwing in your harsher "no one should wear bikinis" argument you're really feeding into the other sides view that we're all just "triggered SJWs." I'm on your side truthfully.
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>>29497812
4chan has historically stood against censorship, the only reason m00t had to enforce more rules each time is because otherwise the site would be killed.

Please leave.
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>>29496904
Didn't stop gamefreak with their waifumons. Fool.
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>>29497791
Yes. I admitted that twice. You're very observant.
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>>29497907
t. Tumblr
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If you want censorship, you're an SJW, and you're too unintelligent to appreciate art.
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>>29497567
>completely ignoring the point
Wow.
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>>29496292
Game corner was removed because of the fucking EU. They didn't have a fucking choice you idiot. When will you people understand?

Also fire emblem localizations are god-tier. So glad they removed petting and shit.
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>>29497900

>lets design some feminine Pokemon so that all the young girls who play our game have some designs that might appeal to them
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>>29497907
<3
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>>29497956
No one really wants censorship. In fact most of the posts here were stating X material just shouldn't be made in the first place. Thats not censorship, just saying content creators should have some responsibility in the media they make.
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>>29497998
FE localizations are garbage, and removing shit for the sake of doing it is never okay.
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It's not unheard of for an all-ages work like Pokemon to slip in content that only older folks will understand and appreciate like jokes, references, and even attractive women in bikinis.
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>>29497193
Yeah and the intent is for this to be a kids game
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>>29497907
You can literally stop replying anytime because he's never stopping soon.
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>>29497202
Having kids in bikinis because they're at the beach is sexualizing them?

Maybe you have some problems, bud.
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>>29498001
Yes, and who else gets to fap to them?
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>>29498187
Again, its not, its more about how people will abuse that imagery. But even weirder is than not wanting that in the games, is arguing to keep it in. Can you imagine explaining this to someone? Saying you are against it is easy:

>I argued against putting an underaged character in a bikini in a game because sickos out there will get their jollies from it

but the inverse?

>What you get up to Friday?
>Oh me? I argued about how there should be 11 year olds in bikinis in my Pokemon games on an anonymous image board.

Doesnt sound so good mate.
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>>29497964
You ignore my point. The "censorship" is for completely irrelevant stuff.

Localization changes in dialouge have happened literally forever.

Even changing sprites has happened in pokemon since the beginning. There is literally nothing ruining todays games


>>29497821
No u
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>>29498297
Again, why bother removing it unless you're so perverse that the idea of it makes you froth at the mouth?

It existed, and then it was removed. People aren't asking for something that wasn't there to be added, they simply want to content to be as the creators originally intended.
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>>29498333
No ones talking about removing it. It doesn't exist. We have no clue what costumes exist yet. We're saying it shouldn't exist in the first place.
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>>29492535
>>29492544
Could you samefag any harder? End your life.
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>>29497884
It isn't fucking censorship though. Notice how I put it in quotes. I'm only talking about complaining about video game localizations, not actual censorship
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>>29497527
I mean, the GBA games were steps back in writing but it's been getting progressively worse IMO. Worst I can remember about Roy was that he was bland as fuck. I don't remember him grating on me like Kamui does. Maybe I'm just jaded now.
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>this thread is still going
And you guys wonder why it keeps getting reposted. Guaranteed shit storm. Think I might try it myself sometime, seems like fun.
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>>29498472
completely changing dialogue and character relationships, plus removing content, is certainly censorship, that goes beyond what localization entails and it's what everyone complains about.
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>>29498407
>people should practice self-censorship so all art is as inoffensive and unchallenging as possible
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>>29498974
Self-censorship isn't a thing
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>>29492367
This. They can't censor Pokemon games because ever region gets the same cartridge.
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>>29499031

**** you.
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>>29495858
Are you completely fucking blind the world around you?

We live in a world where a young woman who fights for the right of pedophilia ALSO fights against woman in bikinis appearing in video games.

They want the right to do that stuff in the real world, but they don't want it depicted in the fictional world.
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>>29498974
People who bitch about "self-censorship" are like those people who get assblasted and cry about freedom of speech when they get banned from a message board for trolling.
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>>29498407
>if you make sure there's nothing controversial, then there will be no need to censor in the first place
such a brave stance to take in the name of freedom of expression
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>>29498325
>it happened back then so it's okay now
Desist.
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>>29499031
Actually it is. Google.
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>>29491954
Draw
More
Porn
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>>29497396
seconding this

Keep your gravity defying tits in media where it's expected. Putting it in a series generally aimed at children makes it look out of place and frankly fucking retarded.
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