So what was the secret it shares with the starters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq3abPnEEGE

Wasn't it Z-moves?

>>29412076
How would that make sense? Why single out Rockruff and the starters when any pokemon can use them?

>>29412046
The secret is that there is no secret

>>29412046
They didn't share a secret. Stop this meme

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>secret it shares with the starters

You guys won't ever let this meme die will you?

>>29412145
Why would Corocoro lie to us?

>>29412170
It didn't. The translators did.

>>29412046

They will have exclusive Z-moves.

>>29412170
They have their own secret independent of Rockruff. The only people that push the "shared secret" meme are people that want split evos.

>>29412219
It's not a meme. And the report that it shared a secret with the starters predated confirmation of Rockruff's split evos.

>>29412046

It doesn't share one with the starters.

Corocoro said "similar to the starters, Rockruff hides a secret", not that it was the same secret.

>>29412252
So then what are the starters hiding?

>>29412269
why don't you ask them?

I'm sure they're Z moves, there are 11 special Z moves in the game, and we only know 4

>>29412269

Exclusive Z-Moves

>>29412269
It hasn't been unveiled yet but it's probably related to Pokemon refresh since the 2nd evo profiles all mention helping them overcome their bad personalities and the fact that they don't seem to evolve at the normal starter levels.

There's no secret. It dragged on for 5 months but people were too illiterate to notice that there was no secret

Cresselia/Lavandula translated a Riddler post after the datamining. Apparently, he said the starters' secret was scrapped.

>>29412417

Source?

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>>29412417
Safe to assume Ballio and friends were originally split evos but the concept was dropped. RIP best starter

>>29412046
All of them have lame evolutions

>>29412046
They're both shit

>>29412432
On Bulbagarden, in the rumors/leaks thread. I'll be looking through the pages to find the source, but you guys are free to look too.

If I don't find anything, I'll reply to let you guys know, so you're not stuck waiting.

>>29412219
So... what's their independent secret?

>>29412490
Probably exclusive Z-Moves or something.

>>29412490
Wait and find out

>>29412443
On one hand I want to call you retarded.
On the other, the crushing despair that would flood the board were it to ne true makes it a nice prospect.

>>29412417
>>29412432
>>29412487
http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/rumours-fakes-leaks-discussion-thread.214874/page-422#post-6017469

Here it is.

>>29412535
I had completely forgotten that Zoroark detail.

We argued for months about it possibly having a negative friendship-based evolution.

>>29412535
Who's this lavantula dude? where's the post he's translating?
I'm sure the secret is Z moves. Riddler knows nothing about the game outside those specific things he hinted at months ago, but again, why should I believe that random dude? And do you really think the game was in beta back in June and they dropped features? Nah. They're Z Moves, you'll see. There's no way they would drop somethibg that close to release, not to mention that the secret got hinted at again in a later issue

>>29412695
It's not like there isn't precedent.

Zoroark was meant to have a new unique evolution method for example. And it was teased at in CoroCoro.

>>29412046
Furry bait.

>>29412787
>>29412535
That post isn't even translating anything, and it starts with "I think..."
If they do have a secret, it can't be anything other than Z-Moves. Or like that anon up there said, maybe making them evolve through Refresh
Remember that Riddler got mad one day because she mistranslated something too

>>29412046
they all evolve, which is something very rare among alolan mons.

>>29412417
>>29412535
>Apparently, he said the starters' secret was scrapped.

fucking kill me

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>>29412869
take me with you my dude

>>29412869
You shouldn't trust translations anon. Especially when said translator has been wrong before.
Either way, why do you care about the "secrets"? CoroCoro hypes the most stupid shit, it's a kids' magazine. Or were you expecting... split evos? If so, there's only one thing I can tell you: You're a retard. A muscular cat that punches stuff won't become a quadrupedal slender panther. This has to be the most stupid meme that has ever existed.

>>29412046
All of them get a signature move
And probably a z move

>>29412972
Not everyone that hoped for split evos was a retard who believed that dude's fanart was real. I just wanted something that made the new pokemon interesting instead of just filling in checkboxes so GF can pretend they made new pokemon. And then they turn around and put in more unique things on old pokemon to appeal to nostalgiafags (eg. Megas, Alolan forms) and then justify those as "new" pokemon.

They both look better unevolved, that's the secret.

>>29413032
This. Also, I dont think they would hold out this long if it was only z-moves. Split forms arent just a cool idea they're the most likely.

>>29412046
battle bond

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>>29413250
>conclusively proven unlikely given the datine finding all Pokemon in the Alola dex
>most likely

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>>29413250
>most likely
That anon is okay, you're the real retard here.

>>29413278
I think that anon is operation on the assumption that the secret was scrapped, and the split evos was most likely based on what happened to Rockruff

>>29413278
Show me proof that the datamine has all the pokemon in the final game's Aloladex.

>>29413332
Datamine has literally found all of the slots and exact ordering of all the Pokémon in the national dex from Bulbasaur to Marshadow. Given how the file structure works, it is literally impossible for there to have been Pokémon that weren't in the initial datamine.

>>29412443

the fact that something like him will never be real kind of tears me apart given that the idea of a starter being childish but light-hearted from beginning to end despite its appearance just seemed like a really nice idea.

>>29413375
Even alternate forms?

>>29412443
The artist himself came on the board and gave you retards proof that he created them, they're not fucking split evo concepts.

You Ballioscum deserve death.

>>29412473
Winrar

>>29412473

Ebin.

>>29412443
no it wasn't you fucking retard

>>29412443
>"Wow guys, my perfect rape clown pokemon didn't get made. Now I have nothing to relate to."

Fuck you and FUCK CLOWNS GOD DAMNIT WHY DID THIS EVER COME TO EXIST

>>29415053
Now that I think of it, I didn't see any models for Radiant Sun Solgaleo and Full Moon Lunala.

>>29415314
You calling me a rape clown, kiddo?

>>29412490
A signature or unique Z move

>>29412417
Then why did CoroCoro post it? The games were already completed by then.

Signature moves
Moondog is irrelevant because it's the secondary title.

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>>29412535
>http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/rumours-fakes-leaks-discussion-thread.214874/page-422#post-6017469
>It also confirms, or at least implies there is no diving and underwater in SM either.

fucking REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>29415314
>Calling it a "rape" clown

It was funny the first time, but this is getting really fucking old as well and even though it's a fakemon, using this as a argument is really stupid as well

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>>29412856

>>29413375
>Marshadow
Are the Pokemon's names all confirmed?

>>29415803
No, all the names are scrubbed. We're just assuming the last one is Marshadow.

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>>29415803
Did you mean to ask if the name Marshadow is legit? We've known about it for a while now. If you're asking how we know which one is Marshadow, it's the only one that really fits.

>>29412417
>Apparently, he said the starters' secret was scrapped.
Scrapped from the demo, Right ;_;

>>29412417
>Apparently, he said the starters' secret was scrapped.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

I wonder what the secret was supposed to be anyway.

>>29412417
>>29412535
the guy was guessing anon

>>29415053
Yes, stuff like Wishiwashi's forms, Oricorio's forms, and so on were also found.

>>29415789
It's also getting really old to call Poppmaid a tranny seal, but I don't think anyone cares about that.

>>29415377
Because they're basically like Kyurem's overdrive forms. You can see them in those form when Solgaleo and Lunala use their signature move

>>29416783

I don't fancy Poppmaid all that much either, but that one's also getting annoying as fuck too.

>>29412417
Riddler knows nothing about the actual games. He only had limited information from marketing and trailers.

>>29412302
>11

But there are 19 types.

>>29417975
>19 types
If you're counting ???-type that doesn't exist anymore, so it's 18. And the 11 'special' Z moves are IN ADDITION to the 18 typed ones.

>>29418122
???-type DOES still exist you mouth-breathing retard.

>>29412046
The fact that they evolve. The only officially revealed Pokemon at the time were Magearna, the starters, Solgaleo, Lunala, Komala, and Rockruff. It was typical nip marketing that overhypes mundane shit. Does no one remember when silhouettes of Rotom's appliance forms were advertised as new Pokemon?

>>29417975
11 signature Z-Moves.
1. Pikachu
2. Raichu
3. Snorlax
4. Eevee
5. Psyduck
6-11. Unknown. Possibly the starters, both Lycanroc forms, and one that requires Hyper Beam like how Snorlaxium-Z requires Giga Impact.

>>29418257
Shut the fuck up you bitch ass cracker.

>>29418300
Fuck off back to Worldstar, nigger.

>>29418153
Nope. It's not in the code of the games anymore.

>>29412046
Battle Bond Hidden Ability

My own theory is that we got the dex from SUN datamined and we have yet to see all the mons that will be in MOON that MIGHT be split evos
Unlikely though

>>29419502
Yeah, let's ignore that Midnight Lycanroc was found in the data.

>>29419517
There could still be more but yeah as I said unlikely

>>29419529
No, there couldn't. Version exclusives exist in all versions. Otherwise battling/trading with the other would result in crashes and glitchmons.

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>>29412856
LOL

>>29412333
>bad personalities
>cute but childish cat
>becomes salad fingers Fire/Fighting asshole
If anything evolving them corrupts their personalities.

>>29412046
you have to max out its hearts in the pokemon ami/refresh thing to make it evolve. starters too.

>>29419562
>implying luchalitten don't become an ally of justice who utilizes dirty tricks and brutal and anti-heroic techniques to destroy evil

>>29419562
Don't twist it. He goes from little rough kid, to high school jock, to pro wrestler. Perfect evolutionary lines for all three starters. Its stops making sense when you people try to make the theme something it wasnt intended to be.