What are some Pokemon that you feel got ruined in the transition

>>29412032
how?

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>>29412032
Obligatory

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All of them.

>>29412032
Most of them.

>>29412032
none

>>29412061
Whats wrong with butterfree?

imb4 that fucker who thought Elektross looked better as a clumsy biped that flopped around as it's animation.

>>29412032
Well, realistically, what would it suspend itself from? The air?
>>29412051
I'm not sure about this one... maybe it was because it wouldn't make sense for it to "sink" into the ground? I dunno. They could've easily implemented this one in.

>>29412032
Any Pokemon stuck in a constant flying cycle.

I'm fine with a bird Pokemon flapping it's wings to stay in the air but Pokemon like Xatu, Swellow and Tropius look fucking awful just sitting in the sky with their wings spread.

>>29412051
I like it more. It's moderately cute now.

I'm still fucking mad about Crobat flapping its second pair of wings forward instead of backwards like the auxiliary stabilizers they are.

>>29412032
just few mons

>>29412040
Original design is meant to hang from above, such as from trees. It had some neat bouncy animations as it bounced around on its vines from the anchors hanging above.

>>29412082
>Well, realistically, what would it suspend itself from? The air?

Well, yeah. It did in gen 5. But I guess they thought that was too weird for 3D (despite all these water-types floating in mid-air).

>>29412078
>le clumsy gen 5 sprites xD

Its called personality

>>29412061
What's wrong with Butterfree and Elektross?

Would you just rather Elektross sit on the ground so you can trick people into forgetting about it's levitate ability?

>>29412087
The shittiest thing is that a lot of them have flapping animations, but they decided to stick them in a constant glide just 'cause.

>>29412120
>Would you just rather Elektross sit on the ground so you can trick people into forgetting about it's levitate ability?

Yes, actually.

Inb4 Feraligatr

>>29412114
Burmy and wormadam floats too so idk why they did this

>>29412119
Yet the 3D models have more personality then those sprite.

>>29412078
Agreed his animation is so much better now

>>29412061
The only thing I hate about the Blastoise model is that it doesn't get the double cannon Hydro Pump.

>>29412148
No. They just move very stiffly and rarely at all. Emotionless. At leas sun and moon fixed new mons

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JUST

>>29412061
>>29412150
Christ, I try every day to forget what they did to Haxorus' proportions. I used to love it in gen 5 but now it looks like a fat lizard.

>>29412119
Most Gen 5 sprites animations are great. Elektross is not one of them.
It looks genuinely eerie and matches it's pokedex entry better in it's 3d animation.

>>29412150
I hate that they made the models to last, we're gonna be dealing with the few shitty models for years instead of refining them with each iteration

>>29412032
actually ferrothorn got better in 3D
the vines upwards were stupid

>>29412130
I personally prefer how it looks now to how it used to but I can appreciate a good trick all the same.

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>>29412150
The weird thing about Haxorus is that it's actually the sprite that more closely matches the official artwork.

>>29412192
Not really. Were suppose to be getting entirely new models soon on the switch

>>29412130
But it's literally supposed to be levitating.

>>29412207
I doubt it. These models are so high poly that they only really need to update the textures to be higher resolution and they could still reuse the models/rigs.

>>29412177
This one isnt too bad.
>>29412166
He looks like a tard in 3d
>>29412150
Such a shame what they did to his legs. He used to look intimidating, pumped and ready to go. Now hes just there standing very stiffly

>>29412224
>Gengar standing firmly on the ground instead of awkwardly hovering
>nobody bats an eye

>Dancing bro eel is being dancing bro eel
>b-b-b-b-b-b-but it has levitate so it's supposed to be floating!!!

>>29412207
There is no such confirmation. Literally all we know with now is "Pokemon on NS = yes".

The gen 6/7 models are rather high-poly as-is. All they would have to do is up-res the textures. Even without up-res'd textures, they still look decent (see: Pokemon GO).

>It's another vp cherrypicks random models and whines about them episode

>>29412166
Why is it standing so straight?

>>29412193
How is it holding up its weight now without the anchors being above? The vines suddenly contain strong muscles, whereas before they were more like ropes.

>>29412264
Kys reddit

>>29412150
fuckin unforgiveable

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>>29412264
OP asks >What are some Pokemon that you feel got ruined in the transition to 3D?

This nigga complains about cherrypicking in a cherrypicking thread. Fuck off, friendo.

Nobody listened back when Masuda made those old comments about how going full 3D would ruin the series' art style. And now it's too late.

>>29412331
I was dissapointed that the tips dont look purplish red anymore. They really messed up the colors here

>>29412292
wait if the vines didn't contain musculature in first place how can it maintain them constantly upwards? they have huge parts of metal

>>29412347
3d can look just as good, the problem is GF always settles for passable

>>29412371
Thats my only problem with it as well, the saturation seems off on 3D Tangrowth.

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>>29412371

They really need to do something about the washed out colors.

>>29412371
The colors of everything are washed out

>>29412405
Thats actually pretty simple to fix. Id be surprised if they dont. All they have to doo is put a filter over the models sorta like a shader theyre already using for the outlining of totem pokemon

>>29412099
Oh God I can never unsee this.

3D was a mistake prove me wrong you fucking can't you retarded Kalosperm.

>>29412423
Out of all the flying pokemon crobat and talonflame are the only ones off the top of my head that actually deserved to have a gliding animation and didnt. Theyre high speed flyers so I assume theyd be going so fast they wouldnt need to flap their wings.

>>29412258
>what are legs?
>what is autism?

>>29412379
It's assumed that it's hanging from something, like a tree. It obviously doesn't make sense as far as sending it out to battle anywhere, but there are plenty of other Pokemon that applies to as well (Wormadam, Silcoon, any fish-like Pokemon, etc.)

>>29412497
Eelektross has legs you retard.

>>29412497
You're missing the point entirely. If it's okay for Gengar to stand on its legs even though it has Levitate, it should be okay for Eelektross to stand on its feet.

>>29412032
wasnt a transition but having mega blastoise with an xbox huge cannon on it and using its mouth to fir attacks instead was complete shit

>>29412461
>Talonflame
No fuck you. That's one of the very few Pokemon that look decent. Not to mention ANY Pokemon gliding while stationary is pants on head retarded.

>>29412541
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>29412512
Sterilize yourself amigo

>>29412546
I kinda think it makes them look like theyre going fast. Just look at tflames official artwork: now thats what it shouldve been.

>No one has posted Archeops yet

Are you guys even trying?

>>29412566
Except eelektross isnt a ray finned fish at all. It isnt an eel either so...

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Gengar should go back to Gen 2 era visually

>>29412539
So just because it has levitate it must float 100% of the time despite its anthro looks?

Having that fatass floating around would look terrible, just as having elektross just squirm on the floor

>>29412591
I agree also they should give it that tongue animation from stadium. That used to crack me up as a kid

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>>29412379
It hangs from trees, like Burmy/Wormadam. It's funny because Burmy/Wormadam just float in mid-air in 3D since they couldn't formulate any retarded solution for anchoring them to the ground like Ferrothorn.

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>>29412571
Don't remind me anon

>>29412605
That's why I'm arguing it shouldn't be forced to float just because it has Levitate, dumbass.

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>>29412566
Kill yourself at once senpaiília

>>29412622
At least its coloring isnt that bad.

>>29412461
>bats
>gliders
Crobat should be hummingbird flapping those wings to achieve warp speed, not fucking T-pose gliding or doing its current lazy eagle flaps.

>>29412571
It's not enough to post an image of it, to know the true terror of gen 6 Archeops one must see it in movement

>>29412587
No, its a pokemon with fins.

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>>29412606
I actually keep forgetting that it doesn't have a giant lick animation anymore, and I'm disappointed whenever I tap it in GO, expecting that tongue.

>>29412032
I'm fine with Ferrothorn like this
However, I hate its eyes now. Only the little black dots ever emote or change, and the yellow sclera around it is actually just some stupid colored space
It makes the design look juvenile and stupid when it attacks, and much less fearsome or animalistic. I just can't be doin' with this.
Same goes for just about any Pokemon that have colored spaces for eyes, but only the black dots move. The fact Watchog's big goofy yellow/red rings are part of its actual eyes and it blinks appropriately in 3D launched it upward on the list of designs I respect.

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What the fuck is this shit? Why does it barely have a jaw?

>>29412636
Those are fins nigger and that animation looks like your mothers cumstained anus

>>29412636
Im glad they fixed this guy in 3d. Totally intimidating. Looks like it's a stranger in it's own body.

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>>29412642

>>29412667

I like how it fly

>>29412664
>Fuck you, my headcannon is right! The official animations is wrong!
Wow anon, why are you still alive?

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>>29412667
Let's be fair here, the original is pretty much the same thing. It wasn't 3D that ruined it; it looked stupid then and it looks stupid now.

>>29412694
Uh...
No offense, but if his headacannon lines up with the actual representation in the current games more than yours does, he is right.

>>29412667
>>29412709
I think the main difference is that its legs are tucked in like a proper bird in gen 5. In gen 6 its legs just hang there and look stupid.

>>29412715
Explain how the current animations show that the fins are incapable of functioning as legs/feet.

>>29412709
It looks great, its supposed to represent a prehistoric flyer and they flew like winged turds

>>29412150
There's nothing changed?

>>29412667
But Archeopteryx flew like shit. That's the point of its shit flying.

>>29412657
I hate how perfectly still it just stands there. Its hair hardly even flows. Musharma and magmortar have this flowing problem too. The gasses they omit dont move like they should. Were they just being lazy?

>>29412061
>butterfree
>skarmory
And the problem is?

>>29412709
It struggling to fly makes sense, being that the concept is the primordial lizard-bird link

>>29412744
You can't see the less aggressive facial expression and stance, or the less-detailed back?

>>29412749
No it didnt. It actually couldnt fly at all. It most likley glided through trees like monkeys or flying squirrels

>>29412732
They don't. They just show that it has a preferred means of locomotion, and it doesn't involve using it's fins as feet.
It was never moving around in the BW animation in the first place, just hoping around in place.

>>29412150
God, the 3D model looks like a dude in a mascot suit.

>>29412715
If anything, the model shows that it has legs and it uses them to both stand up and swim, unlike what that other mentally handicapped anon was saying.

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Scyther shouldnt be floating in mid air.

>>29412766
So you agree that there's nothing wrong with Eelektross standing on its fins? Then what are you even arguing?

>>29412732
The crux of your retarded argument is that elektross has leg, you've literally admitted that they're fins.

Fact of the matter is that current animation shows Elektross has a levitating eel/lamprey and it looks eerie as shit opposed to its old shitty animation that looked like an intern made it at 3am in the morning while chained to his desk

>>29412744
Look at the stance, how the legs bend, the distance between arms and head, the shape and length of the tusks, the back, etc.
Right looks lean and sharp, left looks like a fat lizard with dull knives for tusks

>>29412571
>>29412622
>>29412642
Acrcheops' flying animation actually kind of makes sense if you think about it because it's based off of the Archaeopteryx.

>>29412779
>can't learn fly, clearly it's incapable of sustained flight
>make it sustain flight anyway

Makes me wonder if they outsourced the animation or what.

>>29412797
>you've literally admitted that they're fins.
that are also legs.

Fact of the matter is that the current animation shows Eelektross as a shitty floppy wind sock instead of a bro dancing eel that tricks people into using EQ on it

>>29412757
Skarmory has the issue of just gliding in place as opposed to standing on the ground (like it did in previous generations) or flapping its wings to stay in place.

>>29412199
What's the problem? Is it the lack of fire? You do realize that Typhlosion's fire isn't actually blazing all the time, right? The fire is dormant until it decides to attack or get fully fired up.

>>29412814
On gen 5 it's weird and funny looking but it looks right, gen 6 looks retarded

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The gass being ommited moves more like an appendage

>>29412831
Its wings are just separate knifes, them flapping would be plain retarded, if anything its the only winged mon that I accept the "it just glide" animation

>>29412844
Ugh, this bothers me so much.

>>29412834
No, it's the stance. It looks super stiff, like it's a costume. Look at the arms for example, they just stick out straight and awkward

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>>29412863
The fire on its shoulders doesnt around move like actualy fire

>>29412844
This is pretty dumb

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>>29412824

>>29412796
That the 3d animation is fine.

>>29412844
Looks like it's intestines hanging out it's head.

>>29412888
>I have no argument so I'll just post an image and hope he goes away

>>29412082
It's not sinking, the sand is pouring from its body. That's the reason it has Sandstream

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>>29412665
This, the 3D sprite for Eelektross is great.

>>29412032
I actually like the fact that the vines double as appendages.

The worst part is that Amie has all the models with so much more movements and better poses, specially for the perma-gliding Pokemon. It's just Gamefreak being lazy shits. No other reason.

>>29412824
>Fact of the matter is that the current animation shows Eelektross as a shitty floppy wind sock
It just looks like it's swimming in the air. Which it apparently does. So I don't see why you hate how it moves so much.

>>29412061
>hating air sock eelektross

>>29412177
Obviously you don't remember the low poly model.

>>29412951
>So I don't see why you hate how it moves so much.

because it looks dumb and its limbs are just flapping around not doing anything.

The design was obviously meant to be standing on the ground normally. I literally never flew like that until gen 6 and its sky battle bullshit.

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>furry pandering

>>29412948
It was because of those stupid ass sky battles, that's why.

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Eh, I like feel every shit one has already been posted. At least my fav got a nice one.

>>29412988
And yet they are still the same in SM.

So, just GF being lazy shits, they could've fixed all the models and given them new default poses and battle animations and more and yet did not.

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>>29412925
>yfw rused into using a ground attack on it in gen 5

>>29412986
On literally every media he was show standing in 2 legs, including the ashmine
Even in bw/bw2 the ones you can see next to their trainers are in 2 legs

>>29413006
Or there's Sky Battles in SM too

>>29412986
This is more a problem with the posing. On a side note, Meowth also looks much cuter on four legs

>>29412986
Sadly it was how Purrloin was meant to be from the start.

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>>29412986
It's literally the Meowth copy; it's supposed to stand on two feet.

That doesn't change the fact that I think it looks better on all fours, but eh.

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>>29412591
Lile this?

>>29413027
If they removed rotation and triples I really doubt they kept that of all things.

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As if it could get any worse

Poor guy.

>>29413073
Couldn't

>>29413045
Dont give two shits about the artwork, on every other place including the gen V games themself it was showed as a bipedal cat

>>29412985
It's feet flippers are actually flapping as it 'swims'. It's arms don't have fins, so it's likely they just aren't involved in moving in the air, and are for attacking prey or hoisting itself out of the ocean.

>>29413071
>>29413109
I've seen these before. The style is cool but the animations are horse shit.

>>29413098
Nice change of argument

>>29412571
His is perfect. He's literally one of the first Pokémon to fly, so of course he'd look like he's terrible at it.

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>Alright how should we go about updating this Pokemon to 3D
>Well it's a Pokemon based on being intimidating, its bright colors and fierce expression convey that pretty well.
>Well let's just remove all the color and make the face as neutral as possible, oh and it's dynamic pose? Let's get rid of that too.

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I like what they did with Accelgor, though. Scarf moves nicely.

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>>29413071
No, that looks awful

>>29412177
Looks like a fat fuck still, what's the problem here?

>>29412166
At least the pose was changed for sun and moon.

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>>29413172

The cannon width.

Also its attack animations.

>>29413184
>Both are monsters in competitive
All the more reason to assume they are related.

>>29413134
Said the same thing in my first reply, you could find purrloins outside of battles next to their trainers and they were standing in 2 legs
Only in the sprite/artwork was sitting, name any pokemon related anime/manga and he's standing in 2 legs, even fucking toys and plushies purrl oinis in TWO FUCKING LEGS

>>29412166
>>29412150
>>29412177
>>29412199
blame generic skeletons for all the bipedal 3D models.

fuking gamefreak

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>>29413072
>they removed rotation and triples

>>29413251
>Generic skeletons
bro, shut the fuck up and go play monster hunter, THOSE are generic skeletons, not this.

>>29413333
There's also a much better reason for using them in those games, since they have complex movesets and animations, and not just an idle animation and one or two attack animations.

>>29412032
Graveler
most flying types who arent in neutral flapping pose like Swellow.

>>29412061
>Hating Eelektross

Fuck no, it looks so fluid now. It's like an actual eel instead of that stupid bullshit where it used its fins as feet.

>>29412571
>>29412622
But this is hilarious

"Am I doing it right?!"

>>29412880
>>29412844
I think they had no way to do effects. So things we think would be effects, like charizards fire on his tail or torkoal's smoke are actually literally part of their models.

>>29413073
REEEEEEEE ALL IT HAS TO DO IS FLAP ITS WINGS.

>>29413597
But Koffing.

>>29413451
>hating on Mr. Eel's little dance

>>29413634
Yeah, it's pretty shit.

>>29413628
That's also a good point. Koffing's line and Gastly seem to have effects. But to not use an effect on their golden boy Charizard should be a testament to either their laziness or that they truly have no idea what the fuck they're doing.

>>29412032
I'm more offended by the shitty washed-out colours in the 3D model.

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IS NO ONE GOING TO MENTION SALAMENCE?

>>29413970
>his cry and aggression: gone

>>29413072
>>29413254
They removed triples and rotation from rating battles, we still don't know if they completly got rid of them. i hope not, they were fun

>>29414056
Yea they completely fucked up salamence.>>29413970

it's just stupid that so many Flying-types were animated to continuously GLIDE. Just ground them and then use the flying animation for flying moves and when being immune to Ground-type moves.

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Not so much ruined than it is...questionable

>>29412032
IMO the worst part about a lot of 3d designs, like ferrothorn's, is the flatness in the models. The eyes look painted on ferrothorn's model but in the sprites there's an illusion of some depth.

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>>29412844
>>29412863
>>29412887
I hope you know Musharna ALWAYS did that.

Yeah this is what these threads are. People that don't even know the games they're talking about.

>>29414905
How is 7 out of 93 "so many"?

>>29412709
Now it looks fucking dead inside.

>>29415026
It was dumb back then, too.

>>29413073
>>29413616
How did you guys envision Tropius flying anyway?

I always envisioned it flapping its two pairs of leaf-wings alternately with its neck craned low

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>>29413073
Always reminds me of >pic related

>>29412045
F

>>29412189
Honestly, I never really liked Eelektross with how it stood on its fins in BW. After seeing its slithery animation in XY, however, it's definitely one of my favourite gen 5 designs now.

>>29412120
Electross has one problem - its scalled badly. It should be bigger.

>>29412862
Except Skarmory does have a flapping motion - if only when you encounter one in the wild - and it actually looks really neat.

>>29415070
So it has no reason for being posted in a "ruined by 3D" thread.

>>29412667
>AAAAAAAARCH I'M FALLINGGGGG

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>>29413146
I love Accelgors 3D model, it's one of my fav pokemon so I'm not that miffed about it changing. Though the intense pink and green it used to have was lost during the change from 2D

>>29412844
Go and see how it sleeps in amie.

>>29412061
Lugia is fine, Eelektross is fine if not better being a fish.

>m-muh Wailor size

Stop this memeor play spin offs because a single Wailord should not fuck up the whole game and cameras for the sake of some autist. You'd see instead microscopic Pokemon, pixelated landscape and non existing shit like Flabebe and Joltik.

Agree on Haxorus and Blastoise due to the poorly done proportions, dusapointed by game freak using default animations from Sky Battle for normal ones too, some species realy fit and look much better in standing totem or defensive pose like Skarmory and Xatu that also have said animations and poses in Amie and not only but Skarmory wasn't only hinted to live in thorn bushes and is able to fly and glide.

I feel like there ae evwn much worse animations and poses such as Smeargle that looks dead inside and has the most autistic and goofy animations, those who costantly see it in VGC know it, Showdown ones probably too.

>>29412948
I wish they used happy amie animations for pokemon in battle. Maybe not after every killed pokemon, but after final pokemon defeated?

>>29412150
>Haxorus-Elesa form
>>29412061
Tropius is terrible for a species that is basically Hoenn big herbivore like Miltank and Tauros, yes it can fly but naturally it spends most of the time standing. They xould have kept this for Sky Battles and used the flying animation when it was sent in battle or attacking or getting hit instead.

Seeing Tropius using Leaf Tornado is always hilarious.

>>29413136
I really hate it pose. It looks... too short.

>>29413970
Salamance is good, but needs better face animation.

>>29415335
yeah, belongs better in a "Could have been fixed in 3D but instead was not" thread, but we don't have those too often.

>>29415026
Theproblem is that the mist is not animated and textured like a mist.

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This one always bothered me.

>>29412834
t. gamefreak apologist

You realize it uses its flames to attack and defend itself?
Hurr durr it's totally normal not showing flames during the battle.

>>29415480
Have you thought that maybe it's not supposed to? Hell the cards all have the same design for the mist, it's never shown "flowing" in anything. If it sleeps in amie it's awake. It was a weird Pokemon from day 1.

>>29415494
They do show you retard.

>call people GF apologists for stuff made by HAL

>>29412844
Mega Pyukumuku confirmed!

Don't forget about Torkoal and Weezing where smokes and gas become some sort of fluids and gel.

Torkoal almost looks like a crude oil fountain.

>>29413000
Poliwhirl has been always perfect, truly the best Pokemon.

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>>29415486

>>29413136
gross
why did they bully the forgotten kanto poison type of no buffs and kept ruining it even more by adding washed up colors and friendly expressions also the illusion of turning one of the longest mons into an early route worm

>>29415544
hahaha what the actual fuck?
i like the cartoon version much better, looks like a mix of a scarabaeus bug and a spooky walk from the exorcist

golurk also had a scary walk on all fours during the team plasma attack beside the rocket bullshit they put

>>29413136
Yeah because it actually moves. The dynamic pose argument is fucking retarded. Also it has looked like that since Stadium 1.

>>29415544
it
never
ends!!!!!!

>>29415486
this one makes me so mad. hes my favorite pokemon why did they make his face so small

>>29415075
Helicopter.
Don't ask how I came to that conclusion.

All of them.

>>29415544
DELETE THIS

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wth

>>29412264
> it's a 'fanboy autist gets triggered over others not liking his shit' post

>>29412032
Someone should really mention Togekiss and those cancer tumor looking wings.

archeops

and don't post no paragraph about how its supposed to look like fucking shit, fuck you.

>>29415494
The theory on the Typhlosion-line's flames have been the same since Gen 2. They flare up when they attack.

>>29417549
archeops is shit design, model and competitively anyway and is literally a fakemon from a fanmade game

No one posting about Sneasel/Weavile... It went from a edgy cool looking fucker to a tiny fat faggot

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>>29415544

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

>>29412051
It made no sense to be in the sand to begin with.

>>29412922
Nigga it's literally sunken in the ground.

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>>29415544
top kek
this looks so retarded at first sight
i do also prefer the anime version

however now that i think the way it walks in super mystery dungeon is actually a clear reference to the typical mummy walk in the old movies and cartoons

these old sprites have given me so much nostalgia
I don't think I can buy another pokemon game that's in 3D. they're just not the same thing anymore..

>>29412984
Yes. They still managed to fire with cannons

>>29412844
You can pet the dream mist

>ITT people comparing relatively still images to 3d models

Yes, I know some of the sprites move slighty, but translating a 2d image to a 3d model means you can't put it in a "cool" pose to show off its best parts like some of the sprites are. Those are still images from a specific angle to make the Pokemon look cool, 3D models have to work from every angle and therefore cant be tailored to that straight on view, the 3d models are fine minus some lazy animations and washed out colours.

>>29415544
What the fuck

Lol why are you guys talking about pokemon? Get laid you fucking nerds

@29418385

You have to actually put effort into your bait if you want (You)s.

>>29418385
You're baiting on an anonymous message board online. Get a job you cuck

>>29418464
>@
How new are you?

>>29412032
Archeops
Typhlosion
Haxorus
All of the static gliding pokemon

i think shuckles legs look weird in the model

>>29418531
Oh my fuck how new are you

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>>29418531

>>29415494
But Anon, it DOES flare up when it attacks. Have you actually seen the model in action, or are you basing your nonsensical bitching on simply seeing the image still?

The thing about the models in battle is that they aren't on the attack permanently. The Pokemon are at rest until they are ready to attack.

This is the same problem as people bitching about Hitmontop standing on two legs, forgetting that it hops onto its head and spins around when it attacks.

Like Typhlosions flames, Hitmontop isn't spinning on its head 24/7. The models are able to show these traits better than the sprites can.

That's not to say that the models can't have some issues here and there, but the problem here is people being needlessly nitpicky over things that aren't actually an issue. That, and just have a boner for sprites.

>Every flying pokemon has both flapping AND standing on the ground animations
>LET'S USE THESE SHITTY """GLIDING""" ANIMATIONS ANYWAY
Kill me

>>29412199
So sad

Fuck the coloring of the 3D models. That is the real tragedy here.

>>29413146
the budget all went towards accelgor's scarf

>>29413178
pic?

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How did we go from this

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to THIS?

>>29419901
>>29419923
Nothing wrong with skarmory

>>29412199
the worst offense imo

>>29412051
THIS

>>29419923
Gliding. Why don't we count the bird pokemon that DON'T glide? I can only think of Unfezant and Pelipper.

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>>29412177
>>29412245

The main problems are the washed out colors and the 3D models for most Gen 5 mons.

On the other hand, Drapion and Ludicolo look incredible.

>>29415626
They can at least keep it curled up like Rayquaza.

Machamp. those lips are terrible

>>29412764
What kind of fucking monkeys glide?

>>29414931
>someone put time and effort into this
Why?

>>29423570
>look at all these anons I'm replying to!

>>29412844

>tfw musharna is my favorite pokemon but I can barely stand to use it anymore because of this shit

>>29412061
some of these are fine

blastoise and butterfree look pretty ugly (propertions are all wrong) and xatu and tropius look retarded gliding, but skarm looks cool. never understood the hate for that one

>>29421388
I preferred Drapion's brighter color, especially with its shiny. But I do agree that it still looks great.

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>>29412591
Quick shitty texture hack; it'd look kinda neat.

>>29423570
>"Those people don't agree with me! They must be underage!"
wew

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>>29424992
Alternatively

>>29412613
Burmy and Wormadan actually hang from the HP bars

I vastly preferred the sprites but I don't mind most of the models themselves, the only real problems I have are the colors being washed out and the animations.

>>29412150
Looks shitty in both

>>29412199
The worst starter looks ugly! Wow! What a surprise!

blaziken

>>29412816
Actually yes, I'm fairly sure (but not 100%) the battle models and animations were done in some part by Creatures inc. and The Pokemon Company, not Game Freak themselves. Although they all communicate, it would not surprise me if there was some level of disconnect between them and the actual devs of the mainline games.

>>29412119
being this retarded

>flying types are doomed to have stupid hover animation

All thanks to X and Y stupid retarded 3 air battles

>>29418255
Tell that to all dragon quest games made with 3D models, all the monsters still maintain their original artwork poses from the front and they look great from all angles.

>>29415467
It needs to not fucking fly

It's model on Colosseum/XD looked threatening as hell

>>29412045
I think it Applies to a huge chunk of the flying types, just so they could force flying battles into it.

>>29413071
That's looks fucking horrible, it literally hurts my eyes.

>>29415075
flitting like an insect's. I think that would be more interesting

>>29415544
What game is this?

>>29412051
Objectively correct. When you deal with still sprites in a 2D RPG perspective, you have to think about framing, what post looks dynamic, and so on. Clearly no thought was given to the implementation in X and Y, it's abysmally lazy.

>>29426725
Sky Battles had abysmal balance. I used a Vespiquen for my playthrough, it's allowed in sky battles but was all but guaranteed to lose every one of them.

>>29427139
Super Mystery Dungeon I think.

>>29412061
Blastoise looks like its left arm is on its side and its right arm is coming out of its chest, what the fuck

I hate that skarmory model as well

>>29415544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpDGq01u0C0

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>>29413071
Reminded me of this