What was wrong with this thing in XY? Why did you hate it?

The game isn't balanced around it at all and it doesn't offer any control over Pokemon I want to specifically train.

>b-but turn it off!
Great, now I don't have an option for training weaker Pokemon unless I want to tediously switch them in and out like the stone ages. That's the fucking problem. There's no middle ground. It's either EVERY Pokemon or NO Pokemon. It's a shitty game design.

The EXP system was perfectly fine in BW. There was no need for them to change it.

>>29411802
Seriously, why didn't GF just keep the Exp Share and bring back the Exp All?

Because Gamefreak did a poor job at balancing trainers in XY.

In past games you didn't need to the Exp. Share at all and you could easily level your mons evenly on just trainers while still not being too overleveled.

They designed XY in such a way that they EXPECTED you to use the Exp. Share., but your mons end up overleveled and the game is easy. Solution: Just turn it off? See here's the problem with that, if you do turn the Exp. Share off, then the game gets much harder, because you can't evenly level your mons on trainers anymore like you could in the older games, because Gamefreak scaled the trainers expecting you to use the Exp. Share. As a result you end up being underleveled unless you grind on wild mons in every new area.

TL;DR: With the Exp. Share on, you gain TOO much Exp. With it off, YOU DON'T GAIN ENOUGH. Gamefreak effectively removed "normal" mode. You only have "easy" and "hard".

And here go again, welcome one and all to the game you can't win regardless of side you pick.

>>29411729
>play without xp share
>Everything outlevels you and game is a constant tedious uphill battle
>play with xp share
>outlevel and oneshot everything with minimal effort, zero satisfaction
>just want to level up a shitmon without multiplying experience for everyone and making the game babby mode
>old xp share doesn't exist anymore

GF doesn't know how to balance around an item that drastically increases overall XP, or simply can't do math

Not going to mention ORAS because that was obviously not meant to be used with xp share.

>>29411826
The game felt kinda balanced enough for me. But I used Amie which boosts your experience gain, plus the new mechanics which means that every pokemon that participates in a battle gets full experience rather than splitting it on top of catching mons giving you experience.

It doesn't even need to be removed, what it needs to be is reworked. Have it that pokemon in the back of the party get less experience as opposed to being the second in line.

Need to level up that one pokemon that's, like, six level lower, but have plenty of higher leveled pokemon?No problem. Put that little guy at your number two, and have him get most of the experience.

>>29411926
I actually like this a lot
Reducing overall xp gain would greatly improve balance.

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>>29411826
but isn't the game not being hard all /vp/ complains about?

>>29412001
There's a decent kind of hard where a general smooth gameplay experience culminates in a roadblock like a boss that's supposed to be tough but satisfying to beat, and there's kaizo shit. Do you not play videogames?

>>29412001
That's the secret: this board is never satisfied.

>>29411763
Because when I first played through without it the balance was autistic and right after Geosenge the difficulty spiked and continued one step ahead of me the whole game. Being the autist I am I left it off and had to beat the Elite Four with 'mons more than 10 levels below theirs. But turning it on allowed me to breeze through the game rotating 9 'mons in and out of the PC as certain things fell behind. It was balanced terribly.

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>EXP share works like pre XY for story/main game
>post elite four you go to pokemon lab and get it upgraded with the option to spread EXP to entire team
>tfw gf is too stupid to do this
>ywn have good EXP share again

>Add an option that allows you to toggle it on/off for individual pokemon in your team
problem solved, hire me gf

>>29411763
It creates 350% more experience out of thin air

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>>29412001
>>29411941
>>29411802

Just play Shin Megami Tensei you fucking plebs
Even the baby version Demi Kids has more depth and balance than Pokemon

>>29411763
I played whole game with Exp Share and I finally had time to swap my team and try different Pokemon. And according to the Masuda that was the plan.

>>29411826

They didn't even scale it WITH the Exp Share because if you fight every trainer before the elite 4 you be like 8-10 levels above the E4's mons.

I even did a recent playthrough of Y and even when skipping many trainers, not participating in a single Sky Battle, no exp multipliers and even outright skipping routes, i still ended up either 2 levels above or a level below the E4.

>>29412001

it's avtually that the game is so easy that it becomes outright tedious at times.

Yeah, Pokemon has always been easy outside of spinoffs and post-game hax, but Gen 6 in ways feels like a drag to go through because of how easy it is. Same thing with Red/Blue (at least Yellow fixed that for the most part, giving NPCs actual competent movesets)

I bet everybody is happy that in M we'll get it even earlier than XY

>>29414036
This is the real problem. The Exp Share effectively creates extra exp points that wouldn't exist with it off. Beating every trainer before the E4 with it on overlevels your team, and if you beat every trainer with it turned off, your team is underleveled, because there's less experience to be earned

>>29413934
But I actually do and love SMT
I just like Pokemon's setting more and wish I could have a remotely close gameplay experience.

Also funny you mention demikids because it was the only SMT that has ever rekt me

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Ran multiple nuzlockes on X/y to pass the time, found that the balance issue was that if you left turned it on and forgot it, youd never run into issues, where if you left it off, the exp gain was too weak to keep a full team with switch training up to nessicary levels without obnoxious training.

I kept having to come up with shit rules like "well if i turn on exp share then i can only have the weakest three pokes in my team." or "well two weaker mons and one high level to carry through the route/gym while the rest were in the box"

A real definition of unbalance. Too strong if you left it on, stumbly wumbly if you turned it off for good. Cunt needs a middleground mate

Should have reduced the EXP gained if it's turned on.