Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that ORAS is the

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>>29408566

>>29408566
I think a good thing about it is that it made you feel like you were doing something really important at the end. Both when you're going to go fight Groudon/Kyogre or after when you fight Rayquaza.
Now that I think about it X and Y did this too.

>>29408580
Sweet, informed post brah.

Let me guess, you're more of a DiPe guy? Those were some sick legendaries. Totally didn't look like fanart Digimon.

>>29408566
Are they the best? No.

Do they deserve all the hate they get? Not at all.

Gamefreak was very good with remaking Hoenn and tossing in new features and parts of the storyline - the thing that was missing the most, however, was any sense of surprise. We had everything spoiled and knew everything about the game prior to release, and that was without datamining (which did unveil Hoopa's new form but that was about it).

>>29408566
Fuck you you're wrong.

I'm just giving you a pity reply since this is some of the worst bait I've seen.

>>29408566
(You)

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>>29408658
>>29408672
>>29408715
Wow critiques of the game that don't critique any of the game's constituent elements

>y-you're the one who's trolling, OP

How do you let yourself get memed into hating something you paid for by a Nigerian Flyfishing board

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lmao

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>>29408566

>>29408834
Almost none of those critiques are valid.

>muh contests
Anything about contests can be disregarded - who the fuck wastes time with minigames in any generation? The only thing I'll give you in this entire post is the removal of the Game Corner which has been standard for years because of parental pressure to stigmatize gambling. HGSS does the same thing, replacing the Game Corner with fucking minesweeper.

>not as hard as forgettable-tier millenialmon DS filler

The difficulty setting in BW2 was removed because it didn't actually affect the difficulty in any meaningful way. ORAS improves on this by making gym battles far more challenging and leveling trainer and wild Pokémon higher than they were in the original.

To this day, no final gym leader has stronger Pokémon than ORAS' final gym leader.

>WAAAH BATTLE TOWER, M-MIRAGE TOWER

The game added far more content than it took out.

>Pokecenters and Pokemarts are separated

What the fuck? Are you 13? Was XY your first foray into Pokémon? How is this a critique? Should Pokecenters and Pokemarts be combined with gyms too???

>no physical bonus

You wanted what, a handjob?

I could obliterate this entire list point-by-point. I'm shocked it didn't include one of the few actual drawbacks of the game - too much water. The fact is, ORAS remains king.

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>>29408566
Nah

>>29409136
Lol

ORAS has no Gym Leader rematches
ORAS has no Frontier
ORAS has no Game Corner

Those are the only issues of this game. All the other complaints about ORAS are insignificant nitpicks.

>>29408566
>no gym leader rematches

Point 1 Emerald

>>29409712
Why don't any of the ORAS detractors ever have an original point to make.

Monosyllabics are the stuff that shitposts are made of.

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No.

>>29410023
>optimizes the touch screen

i think the word you are looking for is utilized

>>29409136
>ORAS improves on this by making gym battles far more challenging and leveling trainer and wild Pokémon higher than they were in the original.

>To this day, no final gym leader has stronger Pokémon than ORAS' final gym leader.

i liked oras but this is just wrong on every level

>>29408566
>Today on bizarro /vp/...

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>>29408566
>brilliant postgame
>actual difficulty
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>29410023
The (((customizable))) Safari Zone (with no step limit) was the worst addition in GameFreaks history and will thankfully never make a return. Talk about casualization.

Mirage Islands are larger than 'new' routes in GSSS.

Don't pretend electrode minesweeper with no penalties was fun.

The gym leaders are far more challenging in ORAS and are all higher leveled.

The rest of the "critiques" are filler.

Conveniently the image leaves out ORAS' gorgeous 3D.

Again, why do these images miss the only glaring problem with ORAS: too much water.

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>>29410136
>The gym leaders are far more challenging in ORAS and are all higher leveled.
what did he mean by this

>>29410136
>problem with ORAS: too much water
Ahh, there we go. The shittiest argument ever presented as a bad thing in Hoenn. All you needed was three words to invalidate your entire post, anon.

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>>29410136
explain

>>29410063
>wrong on every level
Wallace's strongest Pokémon is level 46. His weakest is level 44.

By comparison, Claire's strongest is 41. The weakest is 38.

Should I break things down for you? Does it need to be rendered in simpler terms? Have I lost you on one of the (((levels))) of my empirically correct observation?

>>29410201
Yeah, it sure is fun encountering nothing but Pelipper and Tentacool for the last leg of the game

>>29410136
>with no step limit
this bait

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>>29410051
No. Optimized. It could be a piece of shit game that happens to use the touch screen once and it would still be "utilized." "Optimized" emphasizes the fact that it uses the touch screen well.

>>29410136
>The (((customizable))) Safari Zone (with no step limit) was the worst addition in GameFreaks history and will thankfully never make a return
How is it the worst addition when it's optional? Go literally anywhere else in the game if you don't like it.

>Mirage Islands are larger than 'new' routes in GSSS.
But they're boring and do nothing but make it a pain in the ass to get TMs.

>Don't pretend electrode minesweeper with no penalties was fun.
Don't pretend literally nothing is fun.

>The gym leaders are far more challenging in ORAS and are all higher leveled.
They're not more challenging and being higher leveled doesn't mean anything when the player is still significantly higher than them.

>The rest of the "critiques" are filler.
i.e. stuff you can't come up with an argument for

>Conveniently the image leaves out ORAS' gorgeous 3D.
ORAS' 3D isn't gorgeous. It looks terrible. See the image.

>>29408566
>Limitless adventure
Out of all the regions, Hoenn feels the most claustrophobic

>>29410249
>what is diving
>what is exploring
>what are trainers and items
>what are routes different than your average and boring string of land routes throughout an entire game

The colour gradient in ORAS is the thing that makes ORAS beautiful! They should really make way with blocky stuff like the puddle of water issue, yeah, that. In order to make it more realistically tropical.

>>29410242
do you not understand that level scaling is different in each game, with that logic, blue tops wallace as the hardest gym leader with his level 60 pidgeot

>>29410203
>>29410182
>cherrypicking one difference
>one of the earliest gyms

Please see:>>29410242

Wallace's ORAS Pokémon are stronger than his Pokémon in RS.

>>29410289
Not OP, but do you really think "coming with a Pokewalker" isn't a filler critique?

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>>29410343
Wallace's emerald team was strongest of all
try harder

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>gen 6 apologists
>2016

>>29410382
Why is
>>29410336
so hard to understand?

Different games scale levelling differently.

>>29410327
>what is diving
Oh wow, I can encounter Chinchou, Relicanth, Clamperl, and Corsola. Super interesting.
>what is exploring
>implying being forced to go off the beaten track to escape monotony is good game design
>what are trainers and items
Land routes didn't rely on trainers or items as crutches for poor wild variety, why should water get a pass
>what are routes different than your average and boring string of land routes throughout an entire game
>deserts, tundras, forests, urban paths, grasslands, are boring
>but just endless water is interesting

>>29410381
>extra literal physical content is filler

haha yeah nah fuck off oras fanboy

>>29410327
>>what is diving
A boring shit HM
>>what is exploring
The great exploration we have here, really needed along all the game to catch most of its legendaries.
>>what are trainers and items
That you can easily avoid.
>>what are routes different than your average and boring string of land routes throughout an entire game
Different? Every different route Gen III and the remakes tried to do were utterly shit. The desert would be awesome, but it's not, it's just a route they put there to block the access of the player. And Meteor Falls? Waste of potential. And I don't know how tons and tons of water are different than land routes.

>>29410492
>It wasn't hard to just copy Emerald's Gym Leader rematches, was it?
Nothing is impossible to Gamefreak's incapacity.

>>29408566
I grew up on gen 3 and hold it dear to my heart due to nostalgia, but ORAS is just a steaming pile of shit
It didn't add anything at all and even REMOVED shit from Ruby and Sapphire
Not only that but the teams even added massive middle fingers in the form of the match calling prototype and the battle tower statue
You can say online playability is added content, but it's not really, it's a standard that triple a publishers have to include, it would only count as actual content IF they did tons of shit with it, but all they did was bring back the pss and only implemented secret bases with it and even then that's a stretch as rse did almost the same thing
In short it's fucking bad and this is coming from a hoenn fag by the way

Maybe they didn't give us Gym Leader rematches in ORAS, because we didn't have the Emerald Match Call in the game? Because Trainer's Eye didn't allow us to rematch Gym Leaders in the original RS either...

No that title belongs to Plat and it will remain Plat unless Sun and Moon top it.

>>29410439
Nice literal strawman.
>Comparing PWT mons to Gym team
His team was the EXACT same in RS.

>>29410789
Not that anon but how fucking retarded do you have to be to realize it's him centering shit to screen cap it like what the fuck man? Also no it wasn't he had a level 19 makuhita and a level 17 machop

>>29410818
>What is cropping

>>29410487
>>29410599
I'm not even gonna bother, these truly are some of the shittiest opinions ever.

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>>29408566
Obvious shitpost, but I do like how they put an IV checker in the same area as the Daycare. Best thing about these mediocre games

>>29408566
>>that brilliant postgame
>>that actual difficulty
I beg you fucking pardon?

>>29410855
>i can't counter these points, so i'll just act as though they're not worth addressing and hope no one notices

>>29410382
I assume you're memeing but just to be safe, he was League Champion in Emerald not a Gym Leader

>>29410730
How can a remake with better graphics and more content be a "steaming pile of shit" if you enjoyed the original?

Battle Tower was just a series of trainer battles in a literal square. That shit was boring and reptitive as hell.

ORAS hate is a complete meme. It's one of the highest ranked mon games on metacritic, with some critics calling it the best installation so far for combining the graphic improvements of XY with a good continent/well designed Pokémon.

I don't know if OP is trolling but I'm tempted to agree with him barring my nostalgia for Yellow.

>>29408566
Why are you guys being suckered into yet another shitpoat thread? OP even brought up HGSS in multiple replies, this is clearly yet another opportunity to recycle the same arguments over and over again.

ORAS was a solid 6/10. Not good and not bad, that's pretty much it

If ORAS had the frontier built in, it would be held by /vp/ to a standard comparable to the second coming of Christ

And to be fair, this shithole would be right for once

>>29410936
Yeah whatever you say, move along keyboard warrior.

>>29410943
Metacritic means nothing for this franchise.

Calling all the gate for games you like a meme is stupid

>>29410943
>How can a remake with better graphics and more content be a "steaming pile of shit" if you enjoyed the original?

because the original came out in 2002 made from scratch with brand new content while the remake came out in 2014 just copying content from the original. For a remake it should still have significantly more content. It barely has more content than XY.

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>>29410943
>well designed Pokémon

>>29410757
The point of a remake is not to be EXACTLY the fucking same, it's to IMPROVE THE GAME AND ADD SHIT THAT IT DESPERATELY NEEDED
Saying "OH DA ORIGUNAL DINT HAV IT SO Y SHUD DA REMAKES?" Makes you sound absolutely retarded because of that logic, ORAS shouldn't have updated graphics, oh and since RS didn't have all these pokemon, why should the remakes have it too? Do you see how fucking dumb that argument is? We didn't have pokemon walking with us in GSC but we got it in the remakes, nor the battle frontier, all of those pokemon that wasn't added in gen 2, and so much more

>>29410969
>Metacritic means nothing for this franchise
>because

You forgot the second part of that sentence, anon. Give it another go.

>>29408637
All right now I think you're trying too hard

>>29410999
ORAS is not (((the same))) as RS by any stretch of the imagination.

Your post is pure hyperbole.

Does any game actually have more content than ORAS?

>inb4 HGSS has two continents

They're smaller than Hoenn combined.

i don't know what you guys are talking about i'm playing it right now and its great.

>>29411064
I figured it would be obvious

Its a franchise that will review and sell well no matter what to reviewers only casually invested in the franchise. Where the series has lasted so long that a remake review could get lower than the original due to being reviewed by a different person.

Reminder that gaming websites are seriously implying that things like story and cutscenes started with SM

Saying it reviewed well when all the games have been is an empty statement. DP reviewed well but nobody likes those

>>29411123
Yeah. Most Pokemon games have more content than ORAS. Especially B2W2

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>>29408834

>>29411154
yes, we know that Hoennfags hate Johto and they will talk about Johto to try to make people not realize that Hoenn is shit.

>>29410943
Because the graphics were impressive in X and Y, but not in ORAS and the originals were actually fucking new and not a literal copy paste with an X and Y brand of paint all over it and I'm not a retard who needs fucking nobodies to tell me to like something as I'm a rationalizing human being?
Look, I truly do love gen 3 and I adored emerald for adding the battle frontier and also plat and hgss for not only refining battle frontier but also adding so much more new shit, and I actually was excited for ORAS because I thought "well since it's a remake, it has to outdo the originals like FRLG and HGSS did" but all it felt like was Ruby and Sapphire in the modern day, no improvements, no positive changes no new features to make you go like "WOW! THIS IS GREAT" No nothing. Hell fire red and leaf green added tons of new shit even though that was their first ever remakes and standards were non existent for it
ORAS just feels like a disappointment

>>29411123
Anyone who thinks HGSS Johto and Kanto combined are smaller than Hoenn is a retard. I was with you but you had to prove you were stupid.

And then you talk about hyperbole. Damn ridiculous. With 16 towns and the ocean section taking io half the region, Hoenn is only slightly larger than Johto alone, much less Johto and Kanto

>>29411154
Why is this bad? They are all Johto mins, even if they aren't all from Gen 2. I never got this critisism

>>29411123
>No gym rematches
>RS had that
>No battle frontier
>RS had that
>Secret bases that you could share with people through an awkward peripheral
>RS had that
>HM slaves are mandatory
>RS had that
>Archie/Maxie are trying to awaken the box legendaries
>RS had that too
Totally not the exact same fucking game and I totally tried to think of all the shit I listed i totally grasped for straws

>>29411128
I'm legitimately curious. What about what your doing makes you think you're having fun?

What about the game has convinced you that it is enjoyable?

>>29411302
RS and Emerald are different games, come on. Are you even trying?

>>29411332
Ok I might have horribly phrase that buy I think you know what I meant you dick waffle
ORAS is literally the same shit as RS just with the extra copy pasted shit from X and Y
Seriously tell me one thing ORAS ACTUALLY ADDED that neither X and Y or RS already had

>>29411399
Look yonder for my answer >>29411435

>>29408566
>>that beautiful 3D
You mean pixelated shit and fps drops

>that brilliant postgame
Nigga you serious? The Delta Episode was awful and Zinnia is the worst.

>that actual difficulty
>The game gives free legendaries
>A lot of handholding

>that sense of limitless adventure
It was a railroad

ORAS has good points but it is still the worst mainline game

>>29411488
>has some good points

Prove your not memeing. Name them.

>>29411603
Blissey bases, Soaring, Dexnav. They are pretty good but ORAS bad points outweight the good points. I also like NEO Magma a lot but that is more an opinion.

>>29411603
....what?

ORAS has a lot of convenience features for multiplayer stuff (and I guess for getting things ready for the battle tower as well) that I liked, but the single player experience is kind of shit. The 3rd gen had always felt like a low point in the series to me though

>>29411435
>Seriously tell me one thing ORAS ACTUALLY ADDED that neither X and Y or RS already had
Here's five:
>soaring
>actual elite four rematches
>delta episode
>ridiculous number of legendaries to catch
>dexnav
Whether or not you like those doesn't matter, they're still added features.

>>29409136
>To this day, no final gym leader has stronger Pokémon than ORAS' final gym leader.

I'll bite.

>Level 44 Luvdisc, Whiscash, Sealeo, Seaking, level 46 Milotic.

We're going FINAL Gym Leaders, so Blue counts:

>Level 55 Exeggutor, level 52 Gyarados, level 58 Arcanine and Rhydon, level 56 Machamp, level 60 Pidgeot.

Not enough? Marlon, Challenge Mode:

>Level 53 Wailord, Mantine, Carracosta and level 55 Jellicent.

Need more? Volkner, Platinum:

>Level 46 Jolteon, Raichu, level 48 Luxray and level 50 Electivire.

How the FUCK is Wallace the hardest Gym Leader?

>>29410015
Your entire argument was saying things dont count for no reason. Contests dont count, the frontier doesnt count, difficulty settings dont count, nothing counts as it only matters if you liked it. I'm not going to waste my time on that

>>29411701
>Elite Four Rematch

Holy...

I was thinking of picking up a 2DS and a pokegame in anticipation of SM. I haven't played any game since SS and was leaning toward buying OR. Solid choice or should I go with XY? Or one of the pre-3D entries?

>>29409136
>Who gives a fuck about minigames?
>Muh game corner

Fuck you

>>29411876
>original
>posting an infographic someone else made

I don't think you really got the post you were responding to.

>>29411972
what are you talking about? That infographic is dumb and I didnt post it. But that reply was pretty dumb too

>>29412057
He was critiquing people for not making original critiques, ie for memeing.

So I'll put his challenge to you. Do you have any original qualms with what GameInformer calls the best game in the series?

>>29411898
OR is probably a better choice than XY, there's more to do in the game. You could also just hack your 2DS and get both games for free.

The dexnav is my favorite feature of any game. The opportunity to catch strong pokemon with HA and eggmoves is pretty much the greatest adaptation of what the pokedex should be able to tell you about each individual pokemon. Spent hours on my playthroughs looking for the perfect bro

>>29412149
So the issue is that multiple people have the same issues with the games? The argument is "When you remove every other critique others may have, you have no critiques!" People say it's memeing as an easy way to say "oh, all the issues you may have dont count" which is exactly what that post was

Come on man

Also, I could easily add some empty thing like "Nintendo Life called HGSS the best games in the series, and they were voted the best by fans on the site as well" which is true.

>>29410937
What about his psuedo "champ" battle in delta episode

>>29412356
What the fuck is Nintendo Life? GameInformer is the most critically acclaimed general review site around.

And I'm not saying HGSS are bad games by any measure.

This is what makes hatred of ORAS a meme, it isn't based on anything rational, it consists in echoing talking points, and virtually any game could be subject to the same kind of hyperbolized nitpicks.

It takes the game engine of XY and combines it with a much better gen of Pokémon. It's also the latest installment and has pretty much all the best improvements you could ask for.

And you still haven't come up with an original critique. What are we, five posts in?

>>29412634
Most critically acclaimed by who? Are there revidw websites that rank the acclaim of review websites?

And I'll assume you were exaggerating by not knowing what Nintendo Life is.

I'm not interested in giving critiques to someone who has decided all the points against the game can be dismissed because it reviewed well in a series where every game reviews well. Especially on a bait OP post that just wants us to retread the same arguments we've had 50 times

Its 11 pm and I'm not interested in one of those comment chains were were giving counter arguments to individual sentences until one person gets something better to do or falls asleep

You're treating my disinterest in starting another pointless debate as proof nobody could possibly dislike the games for reasons you can approve as valid and if that's the case then great. I'm glad I could help.

>>29412634
As an addition, I'm not interested in the boring trap of "find an original critique" where the idea is find a critisim that is in now way similar to any other ever made about the games, where any valid point can be instantly dismissed as just coming from "the echo chamber" and thus, doesn't count. You may have that shitposting energy in you but I sure dont

I will say that, like I mentioned earlier, this game is pretty much a 6/10 where it was nothing better or worse than "alright." I played Emerald for the first time right before it and preferred that, ignoring the interface and QoL improvements over the years. I don't breed so DexNav was great in making me get a HA Tropius and Xatu, but that's about it. Won't deny its a good feature.

>>29412799
>>29412908
Lemme get this straight.

You doubleposted tl;drs without even venturing forth a single criticism of ORAS.

There's nothing that makes ORAS 6/10 that doesn't also make BW 6/10, RB 6/10, XY 6/10, etc. ORAS simply has the best features of any hitherto existing Pokémon game and you've made it clear that you can't even articulate a credible opposition.

>b-but you'll just disagree with me

Grow a pair, senpai.

The game just feels so slow everytown something happens and theres no real room to explore. Gen 1 had the best "open world" in the sense that it gave you the illusion it wasn't linear. These games kinda do that too but not as great

>>29413087
Right on schedule, complete with meme stuttering. Dang, you got me. I've changed my mind about my feelings of the game!

Not sure why you imply the games would have equal grades when they have different stories, regions, art styles and characters. This isn't a series where every aspect of the previous game comes into the next one, so I dunno where that came from

Oops, got a little debatey there, I'm supposed to be not trying to do that.

ORAS is very underrated. I think this is a well known fact.

>>29412634
I completely agree that ORAS is great, and idiots just hyperbolize the game´s flaws. I think IGN started this with its completely idiotic 7.8 too much water shit. And ever since that, a lot of fans followed the meme, and lost all respect towards the game for no good reason.

But for the sake of argument, here are a few criticisms regarding ORAS:

- Why does ORAS have no Gym Leader rematches, but advertises them by having Gym Leaders present in the Trainer´s Eye list of rematchable trainers? Some of the Gym Leaders outright tell you "I hope we can battle again some day."
Why hint at Gym Leader rematches, BUT NOT HAVE THEM IN THE GAME? Especially when the previous Hoenn game (Emerald), the previous remake (HGSS) and the previous game (XY) ALL HAD GYM LEADER REMATCHES? Why doesn´t ORAS have them?

- The Game Corner is left in the game, but is not accessible.

- Why tease people with the Battle Frontier hints at the Battle Resort? Seriously, there is even an NPC that tells you: "The Battle Resort is still popular, but there are plans to make it an even more special and robust abttle facility called the Battle Frontier!"
Even the game itself tells you the Frontier is better than the Resort.Pathetic.

Those are my only issues with the game, and I find them really annoying. ORAS would´ve been prefect without those teasers.

>>29415766
Oh, and forgot to add:
- Trick House is reduced from 8 to 6 levels. No previous remake reduced content from the originals, I think.

>>29408566
When will people stop posting 'the dust has settled' retardedness?

>>29416335
it's a good way to know when a post is just a shitpost

>>29415766
Also the art style and aesthetics, removing the double battles that Emerald added, Tate and Liza on a whole, and everything about the Delta Episode other than the climax.

>>29409136
So desperate to defend a shitty game.


Fucking pathetic. Get a life, loser.

I agree with you OP.
One of my favorite pokémon games.

>>29416663
ORAS is not a shitty game. It's a good game that SHOULD have been the best game in the series, which is why so many people confuse it as a shitty game.

>>29416663
Why do people brag about having spent money on a game that they argue they shouldn't have spent money on?

Doesn't this just make you look stupid?

>>29408637
>DiPe

It's DiaPer, fucking normie. IV gen even introduced Lucario.

>>29416435
ORAS has the best art style though, unless you prefer topdown 2d walk arounds.

SuMo looks like it will be the prettiest game, though.

>>29419377
I dont like the colours of the region, or how they made everything SO square, like excessively so. So no, Not a very big fan of 3D Hoenn.

The regions have been 3D since DP

>>29409136
>who wastes time with minigames
I pity you for never having the opportunity to participate in Pokewalker and Pokeathlon with close friends.

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>>29419552
Truly among the saddest posts I've ever seen on 4chan.

>>29419508
>le square puddles meme

It's far and away the best looking game despite that selectively screenshotted comparison image.

>colours

Oh, that explains it. Carry on.

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>>29420840
Is this thread just throwing the word meme at everyone's issues with ORAS because they cant handle it?

The puddles are square, the paths are square, the mountains are square, Battle Resort is a Square, the entire region is literally a square. The colours are dull and the route between Mallville and Fortree is a jungle of coniferous pine trees.

>It's far and away the best looking game
Welp, you convinced me. Colour me convinced.

It's cool if you like it, but saying you like it isnt really much of an argument. I'm not going to suddenly like it more

>>29422654
To be fair, there's nothing particularly convincing about taking issue with a Pokémon game for having a square shaped map. If that's a dealbreaker for you, you're probably not on the right board.

Did you start with XY or something?

>>29410382
>know what we should have after the water gym
>a champion that uses water

Wallace was a mistake

>>29408566
hahahah

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>>29423508
>know what we should have after the dragon gym
>a champion that uses dragons

Lance was a mistake.

>>29423488
It's not a deal breaker, all Ive said Is I dont like ORAS Hoenn much (even if it did have a few nice locations) and the squareness is only one of my problems. I started with Crystal.

Now you're just turning my comment into something else, for whatever reason.

>>29424014
How is that a rebuttal?

>>29424105
>Can you explain this joke to me?

Jeez.

Anon A complains that having the final gym and the Elite Four champion use the same type is a problem unique to Emerald.

Anon B points out that the same thing occurs in GSC/HGSS which are generally the highest rated games in the series.

This is like shitposting 101 are you new?

>>29424105
>the squareness is only one of the problems

Virtually every game in the series is "square" - this is an absurd criticism of ORAS. If you consider it a problem (and this is the (((problem))) you've chosen to emphasize in your posts so far) then your gripe is with the series as a whole, not with any particular game.

But feel free to continue saving face, newfriend.

>>29424337
He/She didnt say it was unique to Emerald though. They could dislike them both. Or maybe they find the Water type easier than the Dragon Type? This whole thing where the only part of the argument is "another game did it earlier!" is just boring. At least you actually called it shitposting.

>>29424435
That wasnt even the first thing I mentioned in my comment about why I didn't like the region. It was never the emphasis until others emphasized it. Again, trying to twist the comment into something easier for you to reply to.

And even so, I just felt it more "square" than other games. This another thing people do, the games have a problem so all of them have that problem in the exact same amounts.

>newfriend
now you have me on the ropes!