Remember when Pokemon was difficult?

>>29406301
Yeah and now trainers only have one Pokémon, it's bullshit.

>>29406301
I didn't even know they all knew selfdestruct moves. he never gets a turn to attack when i fight him.

>>29406301
no

>>29406301
Yeah multiple self destructs really fuck you up prior to Gen 5 nerf

Gen 6 doesn't have any of this fun stuff

Your games were still amazingly boring and terrible as a direct result of it. Stay mad Kalos babies.

>>29406301
They should be hard to nuzlocke

Like this for example

>>29406301
>get a steel type
>win
>get a fast psychic type
>win

so hard

>all of them wrecked by a gastly

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>>29406379
>the games should be difficult when played under a certain specific set of made-up self-imposed rules that GF could not give less of a fuck about

>>29406360
>>29406382
>get a golduck with damp and psychic

>>29406301
>trade your RBY lvl 100 mewtwo
>win

>>29406334
>Comparing early route trainers to the last battle against one of the villainous team's admins

>>29406301
Nice meme. It was never "difficult," OP.

It's outright impossible to make the games difficult unless you
>force the player to use especially shitty Pokemon aside from starter while the AI gets all the good Pokemon
>level caps based on how many badges you have
>no trading or breeding until postgame
>limited to four items (not balls) per battle, just like the AI
>AI will blatantly read move inputs and can always respond as effectively as possible

>Beedrill used Hidden Power (Psychic)

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>>29406301
>mfw

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Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong thread, bizarro /vp/ its two threads down.

>>29406301
Meanwhile XY and ORAS admins only had 1 mon

>>29406554
admins in x+y had 1-3 pokemon tops
I dont think there was a single trainer in that game with 6 mons

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I remember

>>29407171
The Calem/Serena battle in Kiloude is the only one.

>>29407218
you posted this in the other thread, stop posing ur retarded autistic hacks

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>mfw My miltank missed her zen headbutt and he self destruct his way to victory since I had only 5 pokemon

>>29406382
>>29406485
>come up with a specialized strategy to beat this one dude
>gg ez

>>29407230
Not even Diantha or Lysandre?

>>29406301
If by difficult you mean selecting Typhlosion's attack 6 times instead of 3 then yes it was hard.

>>29407230
>champion
the game is actually pretty hard if you only play with three pokemon. coincidentally that is how many pokemon you use in random battles too.

i actually don't think they'll be stopping the three pokemon thing.

>>29406360
>Yeah multiple self destructs really fuck you up prior to Gen 5 nerf
You're joking right?
SD from them can't even kill one Mon.

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Fixed whitneys team

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>mfw I actually almost lost to this guy on my last run of HG

Silly fool, Pokemon can't be difficult. It can be engaging however but we haven't had an engaging game since BW2 challenge mode and before that Platinum

>>29406568
>Level caps based on badges
WHY IS THIS STILL NOT A FEATURE

>>29407324
>normal type gym leader
>has 2 fairy type pokemon
they should do a g/s sequel where whitney has been run out of town for using hax

>>29407331
How?

>>29407431
he's actually fucking hard if you don't one hit ko his entire team with a psychic move since he will just use self destruct over and over and fuck your team up

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>>29406301
Yes

>>29407394
they do with traded pokemon though? realistically they should lower the amount of experience gained from trainer battles if you want a level cap which would force you to grind.

the new pokemon games are going to be the same, the amount of exp you get from trainer battles is meant to work with the exp share to allow you to raise a balanced team of 6 mons easily.

i think that makes it your fault if you use 3 and get overleveled. you should try never having less than 6 mons on a team and keeping the exp share on, i'm sure it'll be more balanced than whatever it is that you have been doing.

>>29407218
>6 fully evolved Pokemon with high end movesets
>In the second gym
MASUDA'S GONNA FREAK

>>29407335
I don't know why there hasn't been a challenge mode in another game.
And especially without the buttfuck retarded parameters to unlock it.

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>>29407218
Is that Crystal Kaizo? The E4 in that hack fucked me up so hard. Kanto was a breeze by comparison though.

Regarding the actual vanilla games, I wish Emerald's Gym Leaders were the norm.

>>29407301
SO SAD!

>>29407281
Diantha had 6, but then again every champion does.

Lysandre had 4 or 5, I don't remember. But certainly not 6. (Not to mention yiu get the box legendary right before so it doesn't really matter)

>>29407462
>i think that makes it your fault if you use 3 and get overleveled. you should try never having less than 6 mons on a team and keeping the exp share on

But the exp share doesn't split the received exp gain. Every pokemon gets the full amount even if it doesn't battle. There's no difference if you have 1 or 6 pokemon.

>>29408031
oh true. that seems dumb. i don't use it so i don't know.

>>29408055
>i don't use it so i don't know.
Then why are you trying to discuss something that you know nothing about?

>>29408076
discussing a level cap, not the exp share. i just assumed the exp level was designed with the exp splitting it between 6 mons in mind.

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>>29407508
>Candice uses a Medicham
>Volkner uses an Ambipom and an Octillery
>Bertha uses a Sudowoodo
>Flint uses a Steelix, Lopunny, and Drifloon

>>29408139
>what is platinum

>>29407171
Every B2W2 Gym Leaders had 3 Pokemon and the Elite 4 had 4, just like in XY. Challenge Mode added 1 Pokemon to each team but you still had to play through Normal mode.

>>29407218
Why Dunsparce instead of Beedrill/Venomoth/Foretress/Heracross/Parasect?

>>29408191
Don't see why it took the third version to fix problems so glaringly obvious.

>>29408302
Type coverage

Fuck you! i lost my Golem gal, Mona, to this shit-pistol's Weezing and I'm still mad about it.

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>>29407265
>using a Pokemon with a type is specific

>>29407324
Why would you get rid of rollout and metronome

>>29406360
the Explosion nerf was the worst thing to happen to Pokemon.

>>29406382
>>29406485
>strategizing in a strategy game
faggots

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I hate to say this, but maybe part of the problem is that there are too many pokemon available? Sure XY had a huge regional dex, but that also meant you could get a lot of OP pokemon in game, like a team of aegislash, garchomp, salamence, and even other pseudos. It doesn't help that the game hands out uber level mega stones like candy without the opponents ever using them against you. Of course you could steam roll through the game with all that power. The EXP share is an issue too, it makes it so easy to overlevel that even gym leaders aren't a problem. And don't even get me started on the shitty pokemon they use, with incomplete movesets like Tierno.

Pic related is why Platinum is so great, while games like HGSS and XY lack in any real strategy.

The games need

>gym leaders or any trainers with complete teams and diverse movesets
>a way to grind that isn't so easy you can do it with your eyes closed and sweep gym leaders
>you can't just give the player access to super cheap tactics like megas or Z-moves and then not have the opponents use it against them. what's the point of then other than to make the game easier?

Of course this will never happen because GF only panders to children and genwunners, so hacking it is

>>29409875
Post the DP teams

>>29407171
Magikarp guy.
There's always a Magikarp guy,

>>29406301
>Hard
>The same Pokemon 6 times

>>29410525
>missing sarcasm this obvious

>>29408139
I actually like this. They follow more of a monotype theme than a direct monotype, which makes it a little more difficult to sweep their teams with just a single pokemon.

>>29406568
Didn't black and white 2 do this?
Or at least the last part...
They fucking LOVE thunder wave in white 2 and there was no shortage of level 60 pokemon in the wild (or unavoidable rematches against trainers with level 70 mons)

>>29406425
I once played ORAS with a no STAB movesets, no items, permanent Natures/IVs, and no repeat training (Grinding levels).

Was really fun imposing fake rules because you can change them up every time you restart the game.

>>29406301
So, that kid wasn't a virgin?

>>29406382
>>29406485
So since beating self destruct battles with 2-3 pokemon out of a pokedex of 250 is easy, the whole game is easy now? Nice logic dude

>>29411581
Anything that resists normal and has high defense. So any rock-type you may find along the way.

>>29411611
But some dumbass earlier in the thread lost a Golem to that fight.