When did you start believing /vp/?

>>29378605
About august 1?

>>29378605
Never, because I made them.
Get BTFO.

>>29378642
Epic bro

>>29378636
June 4th

>>29378605
Whenever Mallow was revealed.

After Mallow

As soon as Mallow was shown.

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>>29378642

when did you start working for Nintendo, Lord of BTFO?

>>29378605
The Mallow reveal, and then definitely when the second stages came out

>>29378605
Logan Cure

>>29378605
this thread
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/26606744

After the second forms. I still don't want to believe.

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>>29378605
Nothing

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>>29378605

When I saw this.

>there were people who unironically thought Disarming Voice isn't learned exclusively by feminine/cute Pokemon

When they came out to light the second time, a little before Mallow revealed.

Mallow was just the final confirmation.

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As soon as they were leaked. They were the only ones that looked like they could be actual Pokémon, because they didn't look like they were trying to please everybody.

Whenever the Mallow thing was found out, so like a few hours after that trailer, probably.

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>>29378759
anyone can make 3d models.

>>29378605
I was pretty convinced the first time I saw the image. It was similar to when Axew was revealed.

I was 100% when Mallow was shown.

Mallow was the breaktrough for most people. Even Joe admitted he was wrong after seeing mallow.

>>29378795
>being this much in denial

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>>29378795
What? That pic was unrelated. I was talking about when they were originally leaked, as the reference sheets.

>>29378842
and, the machamp spine break, the toxic burp, the sausage fingers, the mediocre placeholder names,the inacurrate japanese and the overall design , sure?

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>>29378795
what the hell is this!?

mallow.
like, seriously, if you still denied it after mallow, you're an idiot.

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>>29378879

>>29378605
As soon as I saw them back in June I knew they were real

>>29378605
They always looked pretty convincing, but there was some point, when someone pointed out it wasn't even showing up on google image search with all the other fakes. As if TPCi was trying to keep it from circulating.

I still don't believe

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>>29378934
Anon, there's no reason to keep going anymore, you're just deluding yourself in making false hope.

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When Mallow was revealed

I chuckled whenever somebody would bring up the hat argument like that was hot shit because that was only prolonging the inevitable.

>>29378642
you're a fucking joke, lmao. they're real faggot. there is zero ambiguity anymore. hazeldex is a fucking idiot and his actual art isn't even fucking remotely similar or good. kys

>>29378605
I really wanted to know who was the person who responsible for leaking those concept art of the starter evos in the first place? Like how in the world did that got out and spread throughout the internet and social media?

>>29378934
there is zero ambiguity. the demo was datamined. they are confirmed. period.

Early July when these things resurfaced.

>>29378934
Take me with you. I don't want to believe either.

I didn't outright dismiss them at first, but also knew there was nothing explicitly indicating that they were real or fake. August 1 sealed the deal though, as it should have for any reasonable person..

>>29378759
>Rowlett3's wings
>Litten3's body proportions, mainly its head, which looks more like a human head with tiny ears plastered
>Poppmaid's spikes are indeed under her, which will inevitably clip through the ground

I'm not going to call them fake, but wew, that looks fucking messed up.

>>29378973
it was posted on 4chan and 2ch i believe. and it spread fast because, unlike many fakemon attempts, actually looked like something gamefreak designed and fit the art direction of alola as far as we've seen it. they are good designs and look like pokemon, despite every denialfag and decrier's rampant shitstorm on them.

60% sure on the day they leaked
100% sure when Mallow was revealed

They're fake. You people will believe fucking anything

>>29378605
mallow made them very likely

>>29378971
found the underage.

>>29379072
(You)

>>29379072
It's funny, isn't it?
This board is so delusional.
They just can't accept that they were just my attempt to replicate Gen 6's starters. Also why do you people hate them? I made them extra furry, just for you. y u het :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

>>29379148
just fuck off already

>>29379048
I see, though I wish to know who actually got their hands on this artwork and spread it to 4chan. It couldn't have been an employee from Gamefreak, could it? Or some visitor who got a hold of the copies of those art in one of their computers and spread it around online?

>>29379039
A lot of those still images make some of the mons look awkward, look at the UB.

>>29379072
you're pathetic and delusional, dude.
>>29379092
please tell me what about being fucking correct makes me an underage? i havent missed any information, i havent done anything stupid. i am MOCKING YOU. you are being MOCKED, because you are a JOKE. calling people children just because you're a fucking retarded contrarian faggot serves nothing but to paint yourself further as one. hazeldex is a fucking joke, you're a fucking joke, and your petty ass rhetorics say a whole lot more about you than the people you're shallowly trying to insult. kill yourself fucktard

>>29379197
He's baiting you

>>29379227
Anon, get that hook out of your skull and see the autism you just posted. Try not to take the bait next time.

>>29379039
I doubt these are spikes. And the concept of a sea lion starter was retarded anyway. At least snakes can move swiftly on the ground, I doubt Popmaid will be able to bounce on bubbles like the pre evos. I still like the design, but it has the same problem as other Pokemon, like fish based designs

>>29379148
you're pathetic, dude. absolutely nobody believes that hazeldex made them, and also you are not hazeldex. im not sure why you or they believe that just reposting the low resolution leaked images on their deviantart account months after they were leaked constitutes having made them. anybody can fucking change the name field. anybody can fucking upload a jpeg. btfo like a good child

>>29379275
>"he was merely pretending to be retarded!"
shallow, petty rhetoric. those who bait are still fucking simpletons. you are not intelligent for thinking you have to make this clarification.
run into a room acting like a fucking retard and you're still going to get called a fucking retard, and shown the fucking door.

>>29379227
you're acting like a fucking idiot, quit before you make yourself look like even more of an ass

>>29378965
Does this mean Ash is getting a Luchalitten?

>>29379275
there's nothing baited about being fucking correct, faggot

>>29378605
If you denied them being real after Mallow was revealed, you're a goddamn moron.

>>29379328
off yourself fucktard, learn to fucking read

After Salandit.

>>29379148
Here's your (You), now fuck off with your bait already.

>>29378992
>the demo was datamined
You're suggesting that Nintendo is not capable or smart enough to put false data in the demo to throw off data miners?

They're obviously saving the real evolutions for a big surprise.

Things we know that are unexplained by these "evolutions"

-the starters have a secret that they share with Rockruff. This implies TWO FORMS for each starter. Why would there only be one form for each in the data mine?

-the grass starter begins as a curious owl and becomes a rich foppish young owl. There is NO CONNECTION to suddenly becoming muh Assassin's Creed fan art. Pokemon Starters aren't always great but they always have a connection that makes sense.

-Litten's second form is bipedal and looks like a small wildcat. It also has no fighting look to it. Clearly this is meant to become a larger more feral type tiger, not suddenly and randomly become a bipedal humanoid wrestler.

-popplio's evolution is extremely feminine. This implies there must be TWO FORMS, a male and a female version of the line. We have already seen very convincing (quality equal to the Siren) art of a clown like final evo for popplio. The Siren/mermaid MAY BE real but it is very likely the female final evolution and the male version of the line is almost certainly the clown. It fits the circus performer theme and makes the Pokemon more accessible to those who don't want a feminine starter.

>>29379227
salt much.

>>29379328
anon.. I think the problem is you've convinced yourself you're not the one biting down hard

>>29378903
Yes, and I'd say if you believed before Mallow you're an idiot

>>29379371
for you, 4u.

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>>29379383
10/10, spoke like true denialfag.

>>29379383
you're seriously in fucking denial if you think nintendo put anything fake in their demo at all. what a fucking reach.

>>29379279
the salt is real.

>>29379325
After seeing this, I apologize, you don't need the clarification, for you bit by choice, carry on.
>>29379328
He won't, this is looking like advanced double bait.
, like >>29379392 says.

>>29379383
Let it go, that's not healthy.
And you are talking about the company who never patches, can be hacked with a paperclip and lets cheerish ball breeded pokémon into tourneys.

>>29379394
not really. they never got debunked, they floated around for weeks, they had a lot going for them. truly nobody legitimately went "THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY REAL" without a grain of salt, but once mallow was revealed there became no real reason to believe they were in any way fake anymore. i wouldn't try so hard to call people who were correct idiots, even if its true it just makes you seem like an angry denialfag

>>29379383
Your tears are delicious denialfag mmmm yummy

>>29379457
>this is looking like advanced double bait.
IT WAS ALL AN ELABORATE RUSE

knew they were real first I saw them

>>29378746
But popplio IS cute

>>29379540
Exactly, she's cute.

>>29379383
Boo fucking whoo you don't want a feminine starter

>>29379485
It was like a week after roothoot

>>29379540
they werent suggesting the alternative

>>29378678
>>29378674
>>29378662
This

When Mallow was leaked, I had that sinking feeling of wanting to deny but unable to in the face of the proof. The second evos cemented this.

I did hope that they were early sketches and would have other things added/removed for a while though.

>>29379583
>It was like a week after roothoot
and completely unrelated. is this supposed to be an argument or just a Fun Fact?

>>29379604
this is exactly my feeling. i wasn't happy but to act like it didnt confirm it would be stupid. one truly had to choose to be an idiot after mallow was revealed. to have denied it past then is to out yourself as willingly and knowingly in denial

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>>29379617
I just assumed people had learned to be skeptical thanks to our good friend

RIP in piece roothoot, at this point I think I like your trio better than what we got

>>29378894
One of smogon's CAP projects, named Plasmanta. IIRC it was meant to assist in M-Gyarados sweeps

>>29379328
there's nothing idiotic about being Correct, desu

2nd evolutions were the last straw

>>29379690
im naming my rowlet roothoot in honor of his passing

>>29378653
This

>>29379690
roothoot got debunked, the finals never got any legitimate counterevidence, and looked more believable. people who believed roothoot might not necessarily be the same people who believed the real leaks. as much as it pains me to say, vp is not one person and opinions DO differ..

When Mallow was revealed. But even if I really like Robinhoot and Luchalitten, I kept the hope that they weren't real cause I'm a waterfag and always play my first run with the water starter, and I hate Pooppmaid.
However, I've never shitposted about that and been a denialfag.

>>29378684
source?

>>29378605
When I saw the second stages. Until then I refused to believe gamefreak would make another "figther" (dirty figther or not) fire type.

And to top it off I think Torracat is the coolest one out of all nine of the gen7 ones, and litten3 being perhaps the all time worst "starter". Even when disregarding that it's the 4th fighter I still think the design is awful.

>>29379777
a good denialfag is a silent one, also.... witnessed

>>29378605
I thought they were a blatant way to troll littenfags with another fire/fighting starter until Mallow

>>29379853
it could potentially be fire/dark, theres still a small amount of hope

>>29379690
The fake evos for Roothoot & co. were unironically great and I hope they get used for a romhack at last.

>>29379859
Wanting it to not be real, but thinking it is real makes you a denialfag?

>>29379890

I don't think the typing is the issue that anon was referring to. It's more a fighting THEME that has continued.

>>29379965

I think leakfags erroneously lump in flat out denialfags with people who believe they're real but hate the designs. I think there's significantly more people in the latter camp.

I think it was when that generic hawaiin girl was visually identical to another generic hawaiin girl.

>>29378605
Mallow reveal

>>29378605
When they looked like shit I knew they were real.

>>29380036
It's because most of the shitposting came from the later. That usually came together with the generic hawaiian girl argument and it all blended together,

>>29380056
Kek

>>29379965
my reply wasnt that deep desu i am what you call a shite posteur

>>29379853
That's how I felt too. Mallow just made me think it was possible they'd actually do this again, but I still hoped they wouldn't. Second stage is where I gave up all hope.

>>29380036
they might as well be the same thing here on 4chan, the latter are still the ones shitposting that its fake, flat out denialfags might not actually exist, it's hard to tell the difference between sincere extremism and parody of extremism. poes law

As soon as Mallow was revealed in the trailer.

>>29378662
>>29378674
>>29378678
>>29378692
>>29378754
>>29378770
>>29378842
>>29378855
>>29378903
>>29378965
>>29379052
>>29379087
>>29379604
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>>29380195
this is the correct response.

>>29379383
>You're suggesting that Nintendo is not capable or smart enough to put false data in the demo to throw off data miners?
Nintendo is but Game Freak isn't.

>>29378605

I knew they were real because no fan artist could come up with these. I think this whole incident will change how fan made evolutions are done forever.

>>29378642
Hi John Gamefreak

>>29378759
THIS

>>29378605
When mallow was revealed

>>29379383
>They're obviously saving the real evolutions for a big surprise

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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My dick usually points me in the right direction, and this time it led me to Poppmaid.

>>29378605
I always felt like they could be real. They seemed too good to be fakes.

Naturally, once Mallow was revealed, it was 100% confirmed.

>>29378605
i'm still pissed
even in game i'll stay in denial
eviolite starter all the way

>>29381750
They had that feeling that something only Gamefreak would design, not the typical everyday fan.

>>29378605
>Rowlet 3 taking aim, about to hit the enemy vitally
>Litten 3 about to land a devastating hit and rip up the enemy
>"Maybe my ass will distract them"

>>29379383

Okay, first of.

>Nintendo is not capable or smart enough to put false data in the demo to throw off data miners?

This is retarded.

Also, it's Game Freak, not bloody Nintendo.

And

>All these fucking boohoos this shithead got as replies

Why is it so bad to want splits? WHY is it so bad to at least hope Game Freak didn't screw things up that bad? Why is it so bad to think that Game Freak could go that extra mile?

Literally tell me, what would be the disadvantages of the starters having splits in any way. Because all of this bloody entitlement over shoving X or Y as a starter and going "get used to it" is childish as fuck.

>>29379383
>the starters have a secret that they share with Rockruff. This implies TWO FORMS for each starter. Why would there only be one form for each in the data mine?

These are the people that are still pushing the "shared secret" meme everyone.

Disarming Voice at E3

>>29379383
>-the starters have a secret that they share with Rockruff. This implies TWO FORMS for each starter. Why would there only be one form for each in the data mine?

Wasn't this meme originally created due to a mistranslation?

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>>29378605
day one of the leak

When I first saw them because the designs were very Gamefreak to me and didn't go in the expected ways most Fakemon do.

>>29378605
Within the our I saw them, because it looked something GF would do.

Hell the sheets even had color codes

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sooner than these faggots

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>>29384329
>My post made it there

hah

Also, it's hilarious how whoever decided to make this apparently can't tell actual serious posts and actual shitposting apart.

But hey, to each, their own

>>29382150
>Why is it so bad to want splits? WHY is it so bad to at least hope Game Freak didn't screw things up that bad? Why is it so bad to think that Game Freak could go that extra mile?
>Literally tell me, what would be the disadvantages

It's not a question of why or why not. The facts are the fact.

>>29381788

This is not healthy

>>29378605
Before the Mallow reveal I didn't really know if it was true or not but afterwards seeing her in Luchalitten's art confirmed it for me.

>>29378605
Mallow confirmed the leak. Anyone who claims otherwise is autistic.

>>29378605
When they were shown to be in the game by the dataminers. Of course Mallow being revealed to be an actual character is very strong evidence but only 100% confirms just her and not necessarily everything else along with it. The leak was so damn early and was clearly concept art which may or may not have been the final designs chosen to be in the game at that time.

>>29378605
Like last week

>>29386286
Actually, I forgot all about the 2nd stage reveals a week or so before that. That's when I was 100% on board that they were a thing.

>>29378934
/thread

When the second evos were revealed.

>>29379383
I want to belive.