>there are people who still hate Luchalitten

It wasn't what I wanted.

>>29367909
>there are people still saying it's le ebin tiger mask that i didn't know until i googled it so it's okay
except i actually like luchalitten and my greentext was a ruse

robinhoot is still better tho

>>29367931
Well hey you weren't what your parents wanted, but they still love you.

Wrestling is fake and gay anyway.

>>29367909
It's because it's fake.

>wanting ANOTHER fire/fighting starter

>>29367909
wrestling is gay

ITT: Firefags desperately try to defend their latest garbage starter.

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>>29367952
Fukken wut

>>29368045
Just like how Waterfags try to desperately defend Pooplimaid, right?

>>29367909
>mandrama
worst starter ever

I like wrestling because it's stupid. It bothers me when people try to pass off wrestling as legitimately cool.

>>29368084
Honestly all the starter final forms are pretty shit.

>>29368084
Most waterfags accept that popplio3 is shit.

Firefags keep staying in denial.

>>29368084
TFW grass starters have always been good.
except meganium. But she'll do well once her aloha form is revealed.

>>29368137
Eh. Torterra was pretty mediocre to be honest.

>>29368084
Even Waterfags know that Poopshit is irredeemably shit. Only literal retards defend the shitty abomination that is Poopshit.

>>29368154

Ebin.

>>29368154
I completely agree

Which starter will they shill? It's between Luchalitten and Robin Hoot. Satoshi may get both, but he also got Torterra and Infernape and all Torterra did was job.

>>29367909
Is its typing confirmed? It's not that I dislike the design, it's just another fire fighting mon (it looks like a fighting type, even if it is dark) is just getting redundant.
>>29368125
The owl is sweet senpai. The other two are at least doable. I would be okay with the seal if the evolution didn't look so feminine. I think it's probably the worst starter line of this gen.

>>29368154
Lol the mindset that my opinion is right and everyone else is a fag if they don't agree, well at least I'm a fag so poppmaid fits me

>>29368149
Torterra is great. Chesnaught is clearly the worst grass stater design-wise.

>>29368236
It's gonna be Unova all over again

>>29367909
I sure don't, wrestling is dumb, muh heels or not.

I think I finally see what's been so off about these starters lately

They literally have human occupations

Really takes you out of the fictional world it builds

>>29368319
I disagree, I think it creates more diversity with the Pokémon but that doesn't mean you are wrong

>>29368267
You Poppmaidfags don't have a right to talk when you literally act like that you're right and everyone else are wrong if they don't agree with your shitty opinions. Fucking hypocrite.

>>29368154
>constantly using the word shit as if he just learned it
>"My opinion is the only correct one"

Are you literally 12?

>>29367909
I still hate it. The design sucks.. And I like wrestling.

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>>29367931
That's life for ya, get used to it

>there are people who like luchalitten

>>29368319

Yeah, that's why I hate Machamp. Muh immersion.

>>29368361
Whoa don't loose your breath pal, if you don't like it all means that's fine, the issue is you calling everyone a fag for liking something you don't, it's called being respectful

>>29368337
>more diversity

If you ask me just making Pokemon based off a popstar is lazy no matter how you spin it

>>29368285
Second worst after the owl.

>>29368414
Your opinon, I find it enjoyable

>>29368413
You have to earn respect before you get the right to be treated with respect, you know.

>>29368404
What human job does he fill?

At least he doesn't have 2 harms with realistic proportions like litten3

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>>29368361
>getting this mad

>>29368435
Well you obviously don't make the cut

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>>29368414
If you ask me basing a Pokémon off Baragon is lazy no matter how you spin it

>>29368436

He's a wrestler you idiot. He has a championship belt and everything.

>>29367909
Its looks too much like a digimon like an animal that becomes a human with an animal glued on it its top.

>>29368361

This reeks of irony.

Litten's and Rowlett's look so unnatural. Like they would be completely out of place in a regular forest, plain, or any other natural setting. Why did they have to give an owl disturbing little feather fingers to justify making it able to draw it's bow and shoot leaves? Why couldn't they just make it shoot leaves? How is a wrestler going to perform wrestling moves when there's no mats, ropes, or turnbuckles in the fucking forest?

The term "evolution" is so poorly used now because of how little sense this all makes.

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>>29368414


If you ask me just making Pokemon based off of objects is lazy no matter how you spin it

>>29368499
They still look more natural than a sea lion being as thin as a stick figure for no reason.

>>29368521
>reaching this hard

>>29368507
Well to be fair this is a clever design based on the myth of fairies being attracted to shiny things.

Where Klefki is a Pokemon that is a fairy made up of those charms

>>29368463
That's a power restrictor belt

Show me a wrestler with 4 arms

>>29368521
Since when did we care about it being natural, it's Pokémon a world full of strange mythical creatures

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>>29368499
Pokemon is full of unnatural creatures since the beginning

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popmaid is the best starter ever and nothing you guys can say will change my mind

>>29368608
Yeah, but that doesn't mean we can't make fun of you

>>29368565
They should also stay loyal to the concepts that they're based on. Sea lions are fat, so Popplio should have evolved into fat sea lions and not feminine shit.

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>>29368361
kek

>>29368154
This.

>>29368632
How does that hat work?

>>29368507
They keys aren't part of Klefki, he just collects/steals them.

>>29367931
It managed to be exactly what I didn't want, and what I didn't want was very specific. Plus it barely looks like a cat anymore, especially in the model.

>>29368630
>muh Pokemon need to be biologically correct

>>29368630
Actually sea lions are pretty average in size

>>29367909
>baratards

>>29368416

Robinhoot is easily in the Top 3 of Grass starter designs.

>>29368521
That one bugs me for a different reason. It's too humanoid. A little unsettling when you consider the actual lore about mermaids.

>>29368565
Looking "natural" isn't about being made of leaves or bugs or real-world animals. It's about things making sense. Despite what you may think, the Pokemon world actually does follow rules and patterns of design so that it all looks like a cohesive world.

The analogy I like to use is that LoZ: Wind Waker's graphics are pretty simple and primitive, but it's regarded as one of the best looking games from past gens because no parts look wildly worse enough or fantastically better enough for you to notice and take you out of the experience. It has a consistent art style that works for it's narrative.

Why do people keep pushing the Lucha meme when it's obviously based on a Japanese wrestler with the green mist attack and everything

>>29368633

stop agreeing with your retarded post.

>>29368692
No, but they should have consistency

>>29368702
I like how you think

>>29367909

What anime is this?

>>29368702
Well written

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>>29368702
what kinds of rules rules and patterns does pokemon follow anon?

and do not trust to hazel.

>>29368755
Tekken 3 The Iron Fist Tournament

Friendly reminder to ignore everyone arguing in Popplio3's favor, because they're all, without exception, uneducated idiots not worth giving even 1% of your attention to. This thread especially shows why.

>>29368734
>muh consistency
>when Pokemon is full of dramatic and subtle evolutions

When will we get Pokemon VR? I want the immersive experience of rubbing Luchalitten's pecs

I can promise you there will always be someone that hates that monstrosity.

>>29367909
Whatd you just call me??!

>>29368869
The worst offenders have been this gen

The only other bad one of fucking Octillery, which is the evolution of a weapon

Give me the fucking logic behind a woodpecker to a Toucan

You might as well be looking at Clefairy into Wiggleypuff

>>29368854
lol we aren't arguing in favor, it's about various opinions conflicting with others

>>29368869
What's bad pre gen 7?

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>>29368854

Someone's salty for some unknown reason.

>>29368813
Basic things like repeated eye shapes are an obvious one. Then there's also things like the use of two-three base colors with accent colors, soft, rounded shapes, simplifying certain details e.g. spiky hair or fur rather than drawing it as true hair, and the general idea that all pokemon are designed with the thought in mind that it could be considered someone's best friend or companion.

There are, of course, exceptions, but these are a few of the broad design patterns that I remembered.

>>29368630
>so Popplio should have evolved into

stopped reading there. Why do people act like Game Freak is obligated to cater to them?

>>29368009
>Not knowing he's fire/dark
Does he look like an honest fighter to you?

>That leak sketch where he breaks Pikachu through a fucking table

B R U T A L

>>29368932
Same family for the woodpecker and toucan, if you look at it's stages it's obvious how it transitions

>>29368045
But anon, this is the first Fire starter that isn't shit.
Wait, no, scratch that. It's the second. Infernape was alright.

>>29369042
That's a wrong opinion if I've ever seen one before.

I'm not talking about Infernape either.

>>29369033
What is logical about that

>>29369143
Are you blind I explained why

>>29368319
It's part of a more general trend. Instead of natural/fantastic things they're making designs based on shit people see around them in their daily lives because rubes think that's interesting apparently.

>>29369167
Oh you're just Shitposting

Makes sense why you defended Poppomaid

>>29368559
>That's a power restrictor belt
In the form of a wrestling chapiom belt.

Luchalitten's belt is actually an organ.

>>29369033
That would be like if there was a line that went tiger, tiger, lynx.

Then you'd defend it by saying "Well they're all cats, after all, so I don't see why you don't think it makes sense."

>>29368137
>But she'll do well once her aloha form is revealed.
Someone's has to tell him

>>29369233
Makes more sense than a pirahana becoming a shark

>>29369197
If I was shitposting I wouldn't say that, really my point was it's Pokémon things evolve it's always been like that

>>29369229
>literally hangs off it's body
>organ

>>29369324
Penis.

>>29369317
Can you re explain? If it's just "it's always been like that!" Fuck off

No other Pokemon has ever been so illogical. Give me a worse example

>>29369324
>The bell-like object attached at the base of Torracat’s neck is a flame sac, an organ that can produce flames.

It's the same thing on Luchalitten, it just moves to his waist.

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>>29367909
>Fire/Fighting

>>29369338
That starts from your body

It literally is connected to your body

>>29369324
An organ which requires external cooling hangs from the body, where can one find such a thing? :^)

>>29369295
I would actually argue that that makes more sense merely because it's a two-stage line.

Then it would be the exact same, but it's not because it isn't bucking an established trend.

>>29369363
Something that always bothered me is that litten suddenly loses the power to spit fire and needs a collar and belt

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>>29369348

>>29369435
Not him, but Are you trying to say people don't constantly shit on Dragonite and suddenly it's new to hate this for Alola?

>>29369103
What Fire starters do you like?
>Charizard
Literally my mom's western dragon, only it's not a Dragon unless it goes Mega X. It's also fat and dumpy looking on top of just being an all-around boring concept.
>Typhlosion
Hahahahaha no. You should know why.
>Blaziken
Head wings are really dumb and only belong on dumb characters. It's also a really odd progression from Combusken.
>Infernape
Actually a pretty cool guy
>Emboar
It's like a pig version of Rhyperior. No.
>Delphox
>wizard
>no wizard hat
>no wizard beard
>few wizard spells
It's shit.
>Luchalitten
He's an asshole and I love it. I will be upset if it isn't Fire/Dark though.
CAPTCHA: Sofocles cuming
Bad mental image.

>>29369348
Carnive sharpedo, remoraid octillery, charmander charizard, jangmo o to kommo o

>>29369455
he asked for an example and i gave it.
every gen has one of them

>>29369471
>torpedo
>evolution of a weapon
>only difference is wings
>gen 7

>>29369567
Woodpecker to toucan same species each evolution shows a transition

>>29369493
Yeah, but that doesn't make them not shit

>>29369197

Sick meme.

>>29369615
Ok then don't conplain how it's not logical chill

>>29369594
A transition of what?

It changes everything about the Pokemon asides from the fact it's a bird

It's not like Wingull evolving into Peliper another costal bird

Those things live in 2 different places of the word. Everything about the Pokemon changes asides from being a bird

Color scheme. Body type. Beak, Ect.

>>29369640
Yes but look how it's feathers and peak transition with each stage

>>29369639
?

>Alola is impervious to critisim

Don't forget this is one of the smallest Dexes, less room for shit

>>29368149
Torterra is fucking fantastic.

>>29369665
What is that supposed to mean

Are you trying to say this looks good at all pikipek's evo?

>>29369640
>Color scheme
>Different
The beak maybe, but it's still mostly black with white and warm highlights.

>>29369715
Loses all of it's Red highlights for it's head for a small spot on it's tail

It's beak goes from black to Toucan Sam

It literally like Clefairy to Wiggleypuff

>>29369679
I didn't say that now did I and sure the dex is low but a lot of designs are fantastic, I'm not one to hate on something, I may not be fond of it or indifferent to it but I treat it as if it was a species that has a purpose. You can criticize but there is intelligence to it, I'm not defending anything I'm just stating my opinion on the sitiuation.

>>29369745
If it's quantity>quality

Why is it full of shit

>>29367931
Get over it

>>29368681
>it barely looks like a cat anymore
Except it does. It still looks feline. You'd have to be blind to not see that.

>>29367909
>people who still hate Luchalitten
there were never "people" who hated luchalitten, only subhumans

>>29369762
You think it's shit I don't, speak intelligently if we are going to debate, I don't have time for children

>>29369776
Execpt that it went from a stray quadrupedal cat

To a very muscular tiger that stands on 2 legs wearing a belt

Pidgey to Unfezant is closer

>>29368125
Only good post here

>>29368755
>What anime is this?
Tiger Mask W, which is a revisit of the classic 1960's/70's series Tiger Mask.

>>29369806
I am upset with the dex, as it makes the same mistakes as other Dexes when it has less to fall back on

>>29369849
That's fine, if you don't like it ok, then it's settled

>>29369870
I want to objectively debate if it's good or not

Not everything is subjective

You not wanting to discuss this and writing it off as an opinion shows how little you can defend it

>>29369884
I'm not defending anything as I have said

>>29367909
I'd love Luchalitten if it was its own thing, instead of evolving from the little house cat it had absolutely nothing to do with.

>>29369884

Or you know, debating about a kid's game is a waste of time in the grand scheme of things. And it does come down to opinion at the end of the day.

>>29369348
Dewott -> Samurott is downright strange.
Combusken -> Blaziken is bizarre and no one ever says anything about it.
Magikarp -> Gyarados and Feebas -> Milotic are both extreme changes, though that's the entire point.
Sliggoo -> Goodra was a massive disappointment all around.
Chinchou -> Lanturn is another odd one that no one ever comments on.
Shroomish -> Breloom
Spearow -> Fearow. Sparrow to heron? They're not even in the same Order!
Duskull -> Dusclops
Snorunt -> Glalie/Froslass
Wartortle -> Blastoise, sorta

>>29369954
Exactly

>>29369954
Then don't go to 4chan you fucking faggot

>>29369776
Every time I look at the thing's model, it looks like Hulk Hogan wearing a cat tail. I don't have anything against Hulk Hogan, but it's not really what I wanted from my cat.

>>29369973
4chan use to be better than this

>>29369909
>>29369975
This. I liked overly extadurated things

I don't want that from my precious little kitten

>>29369973

Why are you so mad?

>>29369992
Never on /vp/

4chan in general? Yes, but /vp/ has always been about a child's video game and it's franchise

>>29370024
Doesn't mean we act like egotistical know it alls who think everything they say is right

>>29370007
>I don't like discussing things about a kids game
>as he posts on a board about a kid's game

If you're going to be a bitch it's ok, but you don't have to be such a butch about it

>>29370046
No. I want fucking discussion

Not that, other things have done it so it makes it ok

Or that that it's just an opinion

>>29370065
Ok then discuss if you want to do badly, be intelligent though

>>29370049
>people trying to pass off their opinions as facts
>""""""""""discussion""""""""""""

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>>29367909
After the leak, I hated it even more. The drawing already looked bad, with the whacky fat hands and nonsensical anatomy, but the 3D model is absolutely fucking horrid. It just looks... wrong. I do not comprehend how you can look at it and think it doesn't look hideous.

And then, as if to say "you thought THAT was bad?", the shiny is bright white, and somehow elevates it to being so hideous that mere words cannot describe it.

>>29370144
You are the one killing 4chan like this anon said >>29369992

>>29370179
>implying I care about this shithole

>>29368701
Sceptile is the whole top 3... try again Owlfag.

>>29370200
Then fuck off

>>29370254

No. :^)

>>29370274
If you act like this it makes sense why you like gen 7 with your shit personality

>>29370301
Anyone can like a gen, how they are doesn't judge a gen