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What moves could your favorite mons realistically get that would move it up a tier.

All Marowak needs is Rock Polish. also, 150 BP Head Smash would be neat along with his rock head ability.
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lumineon: quiver dance
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Mega has stakeout
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>>29365623
>moves
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>>29364927
Earthquake
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>>29365649

And Rapid Spin.
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>>29364927
Either a mega that functions complete different from gengar and its mega or give it a better and stronger niche with its tools. Anything at all please Matsuda-sama!
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>>29365684
>Rapid Spin
Eh, it wouldn't hurt by any means, but it would still lack recovery and real utility beyond that.
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>>29365649
>Cogs causing Earthquakes


Then again, Chansey can learn it.
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>>29364927
Bonemarang should have the thousand arrows effect
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>>29365729
>Something, something, magnets something, something, pulling metal in earth
Don't forget Shuckle, Pineco and Ekans can learn it too.
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plot twist my fav poke is smeargle
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>>29364927
Golurk: Shift Gear and a ghost variant of Double-Edge.
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>>29364927
He already learns a crap ton of moves. Maybe something like Nasty Plot?
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>>29364927
Luxray: +40 Spe.

It has decent, but somewhat weak, STAB in Wild Charge, coverage in an actual Ice-type move in Ice Fang, AND a good ability in Guts, the only thing it needs is more speed.
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>>29364927
Light ball works on Raichu
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>>29364927
Drain punch would be an absolute game changer for him in either form
So would slack off
maybe even amnesia because most grass types are special attackers
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shell smash or give it a mega that changes it's typing to grass/steel
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Why doesn't it get Moonblast?

Why doesn't anything get Moonblast?
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>>29367819
Because of the Dazzling Gleam meme.
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>NFE not named chansey, porygon 2, or doublade is my favorite
Beyond saving.

Instead let's focus on my number two, shuckle. From a gameplay design point shuckle is probably the fucking stupidest thing in the series, I love it. Honestly I feel if it got around +30 hp it would be more useable. At least it has a niche with sticky web.
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>favorite Pokemon is in users.
>move it up a tier.
I guess give it a fairy version of Dragon Ascent that lets it mega evolve?
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>>29367920
*ubers

phoneposting is hell.
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Girafarig getting zenheadbutt
Yeee boy
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It's about as good as I want it to be.
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How about some decent defenses to go with that HP. And some more special attack as 85 is pretty bad.
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>>29367753
Shell Smash or Horn Leech is realistically all it needs.
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>>29365718

There should be a Steel-type version of Recover called Repair Protocol, or something to that effect.

Learned by:
>Registeel
>Klinklang
>Metagross
>Magnezone
>Genesect
>Magearna
>Golurk
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>>29364927
What will Alolan Marowak need to be good?
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>>29364927

Give sudowoodo fighting/rock instead of rock.

It gets stab from fighting moves it learns, gains some immunity to steel and a 4x immunity to rock, while clearing up the major weakenesses it has. I don't know how dual typing works that well but i assume wiht another type it just makes a weakness do "normal" damage.

So if i'm correct, it's now immune to grass/water super effective moves. If I'm correct. So now it's got a good movepool, good typing, and can now be used competitively without retarded moves, and just using the moveset it has.
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>>29365953
I'd say calm mind if you want a sweeper. With the right EV spread it can take a hit pretty well, but nothing will fix the shit speed.
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>>29370596
That's not quite how dual typing works. Yes it can make weaknesses into neutrals, but only if the new type resists those types. So in that scenario Fighting/Rock Sudowoodo is still weak to Grass, Water, Fighting, and Ground. But it resists Dark, Bug, and Rock now. But it also turns its Flying resistance to a neutrality. It also becomes weak to Psychic and Fairy.
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>Favorite is already perfect aside from ROCKS
Let's go Luxray then:
Besides giving it Agility and maybe Volt Tackle, nothing will save it aside from a Beedrill-M style minmaxing.
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Anything: Give it shell smash
Oh wait, realistically

>>29370806
So much Volcarona love.
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>>29371001
Nigga fuck Volcarona!
I mean it's a great bug but far from my favorite
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>>29371156
It'd the only pokemon perfect except for rocks, though.
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How can Ninetales be improved?
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>>29371221
Perfect in the scope of this thread is what I was going for. Removing the Achilles' Heel from a pseudo is instant ubers material anyway
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>>29371262
A mega with +50 SpA, +30 Spe, and +20 HP
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Spikes
Toxic Spikes
Gunk Shot
Seed Bomb
Spiky Shield
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>>29371340
>+20 HP
Nigga that's called an evolution
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>>29364927
Give it Taunt.

Given this, a hidden ability it can actually use, and bit more Sp.Def, Ledian could be a decent special wall.
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Something a bit more reliable than HJK but still powerful. Like Close Combat.

Can't wait to see the new move pool in SM, though.
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>>29364927
Giving the various Bone moves the ability to hit Flying types would also assist it greatly
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>Feraligatr
really doesn't need any move in particular, just a mega with added Speed and bulk

but if the rule is moves only, Play Rough and Close Combat could be helpful depending on the meta
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Learn Sucker Punch - Sucker Punch being considered for Iron Fist

To learn Bullet Punch
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>>29364927
How would the meta change if Bonemerang gained the ability to bypass Flying types and Levitate?
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>>29364927
I'm pretty sure this is self explanatory
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If Wimpod2 gets dragon dance, that means it could pass it down to Flygon. It's a big stretch, but it could happen. Weirder things can learn dd.
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Aqua Jet would be helpful. But what he should really get is Tough Claws.
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Nidoking already has a pretty good niche as a SheerOrb element cannon

All that really comes to mind is an overall stat boost
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>>29372287
Considering its distribution, not that much.
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>>29365711
I would give anything to save my mismagius from being basically an inferior gengar who can barely even perish trap foes at all if lucky.
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>all these posts about stats, abilities and megas
Learn to read, folks.
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>>29365785
>>29372039
Bone moves bypassing flying and levitate woud actually be amazing.
>>29369985
flare blitz, if it still gets the rock head ability
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>>29369939
I mean with a name like that, I understand your choices, but why do you gotta play my bro Aggron like that?

I swear, all he needs is some kind of recovery and he'll be viable. Please. I don't wanna be trapped with Rest forever.
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>>29365915
I'd say upping Shadow Punch's BP so it's not just 108 after Iron Fist, and a Ground type punching move. Earth Blow, or something.
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Huge Power
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>>29370596
Sudowoodo needs a ability that gives priority for mimic.
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>>29370806
Luxray should get ability that makes every move it uses succefull (to match it dex entry)
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>>29370806
>>Favorite is already perfect aside from ROCKS
Don't tell it's Charizard. Just when I thought someone in this thread had good taste.
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>>29374811
>Lohekanonade.png
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>>29370782
>spoonfeeding that fucking retard
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Give it fairy(second) typing. It already learns disarming voice, play rough and can breed with tons of fairies.
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>>29372228
Sucker punch is actually (surprise attack) in japanese version, the translation just turned into fucked up. Thats why its not really a punch attack.
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>>29375080
See >>29371297
>a pseudo
It's Salamence or Dragonite.
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>>29367903
Shucklek is completely viable, or at least the set I use is the cause of a fuck ton of wins because rage quit.
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I don't think a single move could make this Ubers. It's too balanced out by its stats, exploitable weakness and current movepool. Not that I want it to be broken.
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