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Most boring gen yet Y/N?

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Most boring gen yet Y/N?
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>>29346315
N
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Meh, I like it.
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>>29346315
It's not Johto's dex, so no.

Johto had five interesting mons and two of them were bugs.
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>>29346315
Definitely not borning, but I don't really like it
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>>29346315
In terms of new pokemon, that title will always belong to gen 4.
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Hell no. The amount of gamebreaking abilities and moves is anything but boring.
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>>29346333
>Heracross
>Scizor
>Skarmory?
>Crobat?
>Espeon?

i agree
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>>29346333
Agreed. Johto is full of boring colors and weak Pokémon that were only redeemed when they gave them evolutions.
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>>29346333
Came here to slam Johtp too.
The new mons were just rejects from the first game, or bland as shit.

There is a few great ones though.
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>>29346315
Not boring, disappointing.

The Alolan dex is like a film with Oscar-worthy performances and photography, but it's only 30 minutes long.
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Yes.

No new Megas.
Shitty, pointless Alolan forms.
Not very many new mons.
Fucking retarded Z moves.

This gen is shit.
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>>29346315
Nah. Better then x/y for sure and I can't wait to see how it shakes up competitive since it seems like they're catering to that more this time.
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>>29346315
Johto steals that, but it's duds aren't nearly as awful
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>>29346315
Some disappointments, not worse than the 6 but not good as the 3 and 4 gen
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>>29346315
I used to love and defend all new gens, but this one is indeed meh.
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>>29346397
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>>29346397

Don't forget no new fossils apparently.
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>>29346315
I don't know if I would call it the MOST boring.

But it does have a lot of single stage pokemon. Those are not inherently boring, but if I catch a Bruxish, a Pyukumuku or a Mimikyu at the beginning of the game, I will most likely get bored of it by the time my other pokemon start evolving.

The same thing with Drampa, Tortunator, Passimian and Oranguru, but those look like mid game pokemon so I might stick out with them until the end if I decide to catch one (I really want to have a Drampa in my team at some point)
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Literally every gen is better than this garbage. Pokemon is dead.
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>>29346485
bye
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>>29346346
>Empoleon
>Infernape
>Croagunk
>Driftloon
>Starly
>Vespiquen
>Time/Space Dragons
>Darkrai
>Arceus
>Regigigas
>And more

Nah.
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>>29346315
What is Johto?
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>>29346315
Most boring ODD gen perhaps
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>>29346315
N
first time ive ever wanted to monotype flying
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>>29346339
This. It's not boring... but it's not great either. Does anyone know the official count of how many new 'mons Sun and Moon will have total? Not including the alola variants of the earlier gens
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>>29346315
I dont know anon, the dex dont have alot of new pokemon, but I like almost all of them, so Im going to say N for this time.
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>>29346586
literally the ones you see in the OP
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>>29346315
N
Johto's the only real answer here.
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>>29346634
Seriously? That's it? That's the entire new generation?
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>>29346315

It really does feel a bit lackluster. There are some real standout designs here, but a lot of missed potential as well.

>Rockruff is the only Pokemon with a divergent day/night or version based evolution.
>Komala doesn't evolve into a Normal/Psychic type that sleeps in a bed-shaped stump.
>Toucipek not really doing much more than being a toucan.
>Drampa doesn't evolve into a friendly Dragon/Ghost guardian angel that watches over and safeguards children.
>Bruxish doesn't evolve into something like pic related.
>No branching gendered evolution for Salandit where the males keep the Bandit theme and Poison/Fire typing while the females become Poison/Psychic.
>No friendship-based evolution for Mimikyu where it stops trying to be something it's not because it knows you love it for what it is.
>Tsareena isn't Grass/Fighting type despite having a kicking-based fighting style and safeguarding the weak.
>Lurantis just being another mono-grass physical attacker.
>Pyukumuku just being a single-staged suicide gimmick.
>Crabrawler turning into THAT.
>Anchor doesn't evolve into a ghost ship.
>Jangmo-o isn't Dragon/Steel despite playing up the jingling armored scales and defensive nature.

And the regional dex is just fucking barren. No Solrock and Lunatone (the literal sun and moon Pokemon), no Bellossom hula dancer, no Tropius, not a single Gen 5 bug-type, no Scraggy/Scrafty for Team Skull to use, etcetera.
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>>29346784
>muh Dragon/Steel
Fuck off, literally everything about Jangmo-o, from lore to appearance screams warrior.
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>>29346485
exactly, the luchalitten & co is the final nail in the coffin.
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>>29346842

I'm not really sure what your point is. "Warrior" does not necessarily mean Fighting-type. But I don't really care enough either way to get into a "who is the bigger autist" contest, so I'll leave it at that.
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>>29346784
>Drampa doesn't evolve into a friendly Dragon/Ghost guardian angel that watches over and safeguards children.

Fuck I didn't know I wanted this :c
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>>29346315
I dunno about most boring GEN but it's definitely the most boring selection of new Pokemon.

Everyone who disagrees with me will come around eventually, they're just caught up in the pre-release hype right now.
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While the dex is disappointing, at least I'll manage to use a full Gen 7 team, which I failed to do in Gen 6.

Lycanroc, Wimpod2, and Silvally make up for all the shitty designs and one stagers.
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>>29346315
Umm...

Yeah actually. It is pretty boring.
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>>29346315
>Aliens and waifus
Not sure if more boring, but for sure gross.
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>>29346941
? What's the difference? You say it's the most boring selection, and OP asks if it's the most boring gen, it's the same thing. Either way, The setting and theme of Sun/Moon is a really great idea and concept, but the pokemon for this setting don't fit. They seem very very random and a hodge podge of left over idea's.

This is like the 'B' side of an album.
..........Except mudsdale. he's easily the best of this new gen.
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It's boring as fuck and I do not like that a lot of the pokemon include a "group" so if you dislike the theme you dislike the pokemon

IE: UB in general, shitty aquaticmons, birds
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>>29346315
I don't know if anyone's noticed yet, but there sure is a shitload of pink in that image.

Seriously, who the fuck decided it was a good idea to make the whole dex predominantly pink?
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>>29346999
lillie pls
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>tfw johto is your favorite gen and group of pokemon

I liked their simple designs, they felt like pokemon to me while a lot of the new ones dont.

Not a genwunner or anything like that, I love some of the new pokemon, even some of the heavily designed ones.
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>>29346315
That's literally all of them? Hell yes it's boring, this is worse than X/Y!!
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>>29346784
I was ok with the Dex until reading this post and realizing what could have been. Fuck
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>>29346346
Uh, no. That's reserved for gen 6 and 7.
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>>29346655
Starting to sink in now isn't it, anon?
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>>29346999
Yeah after posting I realized that by "gen" OP was referring to the dex, not necessarily the generation as a whole. My bad.

But yeah these Pokemon are either average-looking or just plain ugly. There are only a few that really stand out.
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>>29346315
No, nothing can be worse than D/P.
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>>29346784
Good post, anon. Now we all want to fucking kill ourselves.

And they'll never get these evolutions because GF gave up cross-gen evos.
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Nah,that's 4.

Cherubi,Kricketot,Combee,Burmy,Finneon,Bronzor,Glameow and more literally whos?
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>>29347127
Except gen 6/7. Duh. And, ya know, gen 1/2.
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>>29346315
Worst followed in a close second by it's previous generation.
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>>29347147
This, GF couldn't make games shittier than D/P if they tried.
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Honestly, they really shouldn't have THAT many standalone Pokemon...
If they wanted to fix this give at least five of the stand-alone Pokemon evolutions.
Komala, Bruxish, and Minior really should have had evolutions because they all have interesting abilities that could be great in competitive...
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>people think any region other than Johto is best
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>>29347132
Okay. Seriously, if the OP's pic is literally all of the new pokemon for this gen...we have a problem. A big one. As in I think Pokemon may be reaching the end of the line. Utter disappoint is about to ensue... Sun and Moon is going to be short as fuck / boring as fuck if this is all we're given...

Anyone else worried about the replayability and length of the Sun/Moon? They can add whatever post game crap they want, if this sad collection of new mons represents the entire new lot....we're fucked
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Not boring but has the worst starters of any generation
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It'll be pretty boring because they revealed so many but had so few in the total number of new Pokemon. One doesn't even need to try and avoid the leaks because there's not much else to be hidden. A large part of the fun is the discovery of all the new pokemon.
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>>29346784
Your fanfic evolution ideas don't excite me at all.

I totally agree that they dropped the ball on which old Pokemon they included, though.
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Nah. I like most of 'em. Johto was sort of boring. And Sinnoh... Sinnoh designs weren't boring, but they hold the title for highest number of bad designs, imo. Some pretty nice ones, but if Probopass and Ambipom haven't made me quit Pokemon, I can't imagine what would. Nothing in this Dex, I know that.
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>>29346315
Better then sixth. Worst is gen 2, as much as I like some of the pokemon a lot it was pretty shit overall. Honestly I like it a lot, unlike gen 6 I had a tough time decoding who I wanted to use.
>>29346360
Shuckle
Wooper
Quagsire
Cyndaquil
Slowking

All great designs, gen 2 isn't THAT bad.
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>GF released the demo with all these pokemon on it knowing people would crack it.
>People play the actual game and find twice as many new pokemon.
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>>29346315

Nah, I like it.

>New favorite Fire Starter (fuck you for hating it I like it)
>Actually like the other two starters
>Cute Doggos
>Best bugs to date
>Wimpod evolving into fearbug
>Mimikyu
>Type: Null * Silvally

My team will probably be:

>Luchalitten (Fire/Dark)
>Rockruff (Moon) (Rock)
>Cutiefly evo or Mimikyu (Fairy/Bug?/Ghost?)
>Fearbug or Sea Urchin Trap pokemon (Bug/Water? Water/Poison?)
>Type: Null/Silvally
>Lurantis or Tsareena
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>>29347351
are you talking about the ORAS demo?

Oh, no wait. I think I had a deja vu
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It'll be fun while I play it, but this and gen 6 are gonna be the ones that kinda get forgotten as gens. Not bad, but it really just does not grab your attention.
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There should have been at least 36 Alola Forms instead of 18, and they should have drawn from at least Gens 2 and 4 (the two big "cross gen evolution" generations) in addition to Gen 1 so you could get Alola forms of Kanto Pokemon that went on to get evolutions later. It's a really cool concept, but it feels like they only made a half-hearted attempt at it and I'm kind of worried that they'll stop making new regional forms in successive generations just like they've stopped making Megas.
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>>29347375

Did that happen with the ORAS demo datamining and release? I actually didn't pay much attention to it.
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To all people who want Silvally, myself included, we might be fucked
According to the leakers you can't catch it on any of the four islands.
>>29347207
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>>29347404
You know... when I saw the alola eggexecutor and the Muk... I was sort of excited for alola variants... But now after seeing the rest of this shit lineup of alola variants, I gotta say, I no longer am excited for this game. With the low count of new pokemon and honestly crap designs of the alola's, and no mega evolutions, This game is going to be shit. I haven't played the demo and I don't even want to cause I'd probably get bored with it, BEFORE it even hits shelves for real.
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>>29346999
not the guy you replied to but i think he means a gen is more than the pokemon.
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Won't be boring but it won't be that interesting
They focused more on the features and scenery than the Pokemon
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>>29346315
> a whole bunch of infuriatingly ugly 'mons
> gimmicks out the ass
> UBs
> Pyukumuku, Wishiwashi, and Type: Null
Nothing boring about it.
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>>29347471
people kept saying things like
>GF obviously scrubbed out the unrevealed megas! There's no way they would reveal all of them before the games' release!

It was sad.
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>>29346315
We haven't even played the game yet, retard.
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>>29347490
Oh shit wrong thread, sorry guys.
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They've decided to stop padding the Dex with Pokemon that're gonna be relegated to 'literal who' status when people look back at a generation. I mean, sometimes I have to remind myself that half of Johto's Dex exists, and a lot of Pokemon from Hoenn and Unova get sort of drowned out like Chimecho and Grumpig.

I can see why people are upset, but I can also see why it's being done. If people are gonna ignore it anyway, why even bother making it?
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>>29347581

Depriving hipsters of "no one knows my favorite pokemon" is a crime
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>>29347581
There is the chance that people will completely forget this gen in like 5 years but GF had the power to do whatever they wanted with the Pokémon for the 20th anniversary game and they kinda just looked at X/Y and said "let's do that again". It has the framework but not the foundation in a sense
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It's not Johto, OP.
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>>29347581
Fucking this. People like to bitch about not having 100+ new Poke's when most of 'em would be pure garbage.
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>>29347581
>>29347771

Hold the fucking phone. Are you implying that OP's sad pathetic roster of pokemon for this Sun/Moon gen, is in any way good quality, memorable or even noteworthy? If I were to see these mon's at random, THEY would be the padding I would assume. These guys that we've been given (minus Mudsdale) are indeed "literal who" status.
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Just because of the Pokemon? Maybe. But the fact that it's changing the old formula and trying something new plot-wise is exciting. Plus the addition of new creatures that are apparently not Pokemon is pretty interesting as well.
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>>29347404
>at least 36 Alola Forms instead of 18
i agree. in XY, they introduced 28 (30 if you count the Latis) Megas, so seeing the number of Alolan Forms be less than that is kinda souring

>>29347771
so your favorite mons all come from either Gen 2, 4, or 6
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>>29347813
And you absolutely have the right to feel that way. Personally, I'm going to remember all of the Pokemon rather well; they're too eyecatching and different from what you'd expect. And it helps I like most of them. The only 'literal who' on this roster, imo, is Komala. Really should've evolved.
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>>29346397
>No new Megas
Literally the only good thing about this gen.
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>>29347839
I'm kinda worried the Trial Captain gimmick will be dull. What if most of them have no roles outside of their jobs, like pre-Gen V Gym Leaders?

And what if a lot of the Captains don't battle you, and Totems are the only real challenge? The stupid puzzles are the worst part of Gyms, and these seem to be based around them.
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>>29347813
>is in any way good quality, memorable or even noteworthy
I'm not implying it, I'm stating it outright. Taken as a whole, I'd rank this set above Kanto, Johto, Sinnoh, and maybe even Hoenn in terms of memorability.
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>>29348007
>hoenn
If hoenn had one thing it had good ass designs. Kanto I'm not sure on but may agree with. Johto and sinnoh for sure though.
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>>29348007
Over Kanto and Johto, I agree. But some of Sinnoh's designs were so terrible, imo, that there's no way I can forget them. And I feel Hoenn did well enough to make its Pokemon memorable.
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I think they're interesting and memorable because I hate so much of them. They have a few amazing designs, but overall this Dex has an overwhelming number of Pokemon I hate.

If only for that, it's unforgettable and intriguing.
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>>29348071
Not even trying to shitpost, can I get some good and designs in your opinion? I would place it in my top 3 honestly.
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>>29348110
*good and bad
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>>29348110
>Bad
Palossand (An interesting concept that could have been executed better)
Salandit2
Togedamaru (generic orb Pokemon with a fat face and Pikachu traits)
Anchormon (The seaweed beard is nice, but it's too much of an object and not enough of a creature. The Litwick line shows the best of what an object mon can be, in my opinion.)

>Good
Oricorio Baile (Its design and color scheme are reminiscent of real birds, while conveying the unique style of dance)
Gumshoos (It takes humanlike traits, but it's not a humanoid Pokemon and retains the traits of the animal it's based on)
Lurantis
Cutiefly

These are pretty much my opinions, so I can see why people would disagree. And that's fair.
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>>29348630
>palossand
>anchormon
Fight me.
>salandit2
100% agree, shit design.
>togedamaru
I would say better then other pikachu clones for how dumb looking it is but yeah a shitty design.

Have you seen this pic? I think a lot of people don't fully understand the anchor's design, its at a weird angle.
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>>29346449
Fossil Pokémon are shit anyways.
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>>29348110
>Bad
-Pikipek2 (Not outright bad, just awkward transition to Toucan)
-Rimbombee (I think the scarf is pointless and weird. I don't like apparel on Pokemon gained through evolution. The body is verysmall and weird. Kind of underwhelming evolution)
-Salandit2 (The bandit theme could have been played out better. Just looks plain)
-Fomantis/Lurantis (Again, not bad, just seem like fillermon)
-Morelull2 (Just strange. A lot going on that doesn't make sense. The large hat seems to imply its a Victorian-Ever parasol carrying noble woman but then it has an Ayylmao body/fingers)
-Anemones (Seems like fillermon but the model isn't doing it justice in this image)

>>29346333
I can't think of many uninteresting Pokemon from Johto. If you're looking for waifus/porno you are not the target demographic of Pokemon. Johto has a lot of solid designs and it was the comfiest generation with the best games.
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>>29348630
Pretty sure the seaweed makes a jagged smile, not a beard.
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>>29348812
>fossils
>shit
Kill yourself my dude.
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>>29348833
>If you're looking for waifus/porno you are not the target demographic of Pokemon
I'm looking for interesting monster designs. And Johto only offers a handful.

Also, comfiest region was Kalos but Johto is a good runner up.
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>>29348833
Only one I outright don't like there is salandit2, shitty design. Though I can't day anything else you listed is great, I'm probably one of thecfew people who think lunartis is just okay.

I still stand by my statement and believe gen 7 is in the top 3.
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>>29348833
>I can't think of many uninteresting Pokemon from Johto
All of the baby mons, Qwilfish, Sentret, Furret, Hoothoot (what was the point of the clock motif when Noctowl loses it?), Sunkern/Sunflora, Stantler, etc. The whole dex is mediocre, with very few that stand out.
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>>29348875
Eh, nah. Mostly all solid designs.
All of the starters are solid.
Hoppip Line solid.
Mareep line solid.
Crobat, Kingdra, Politoed, Hitmontop,Porygon2, Steelix,Blissey, Slowking, Bellossom solid.
Pre-evolutions soldily cute.
Togepi Line solid.
Houndour Line solid.
Wooper line solid.
Skarmory, Miltank, Stantler, Dunsparce, Heracross solid.
Murkrow, Sneasel, Misdreavus, Gligar solid.
Umbreon Espeon solid.
Yanma solid.
Pineco Line solid.
Teddiursa/Phanpy lines solid.
Larvitar line solid.
Legends solid.

The comfiest region is universally recognized as Gen 2, not Kalos, but that's you so good for you.
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>>29348940
See
>>29348964

Early mons are usually pretty bland. Babymons are not "not solid" the concept is just unnecessary and we're talking about designs. You're deviating.
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No fossil and no Eevee both annoy me greatly

I'll be a corpse before we get every type
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>>29346315
>6: 3 evolution lines
>3 are starters
>Psuedo
>Region Bug
>Staple bird

Literally the only other fucking one is Tsranee
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>>29348964
>All of the starters are solid.
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>>29348998
>outta steam so I gotta meme
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>>29348995
*7 3 evo lines

>>29348998
Design wise their simple, maybe too simple but that's a fuckton better than certain starters
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>>29348995
I hate that too. But Kalos was basically the same wasn't it?
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>>29348995
there's only 1 3-stage Alolan form too, so I can't really use much from that pool as back-up. i'm autistic about 3-stager teams; i like the slow evolution, it feels right. I really doubt we'll only get 16 alolan forms though. they might release a free dlc on launch. but 16 palette swaps, which is the new gimmick. 16 in total?
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>>29348980
>being a eeveefag
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>>29348835
>>29348799
Teeth, huh. Didn't notice that. I still see it as more of a beard though.

I did see the rest of the design, including the eyes. It's creative, but I don't think it's all that good. Better than Doublade, though.
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>>29348995
There more Pokemon that are yet to be revealed, anon. Like the Snowman and the Type changing Cat.
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N
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>>29348940
>furret
>uninteresting

Furret is cute. CUTE
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>>29346784
Mimikyu evolution is a missed opportunity

Day/night evolutions should be much more of a thing given that's a main fucking gimmick this gen

Tropius. Why the fuck isn't Tropius in Alola.

Fuck anon, you make some good points.
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>>29348964
>Stantler
>Solid
Stantler is the definition of a forgettable pokemon.

I like this gen, it is different from the other and there is good designs. There is also bad ones, but there is in every gen.
I keep thinking every gen must look different, since it takes place in a whole new region. Keep in mind that when people went for the first time in Australia and saw marsupials, they were like "what the fucking fuck is this? Is that an alien or something? They look nothing like normal animals!"
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>>29349193
>Denial
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>>29348833

>-Morelull2 (Just strange. A lot going on that doesn't make sense. The large hat seems to imply its a Victorian-Ever parasol carrying noble woman but then it has an Ayylmao body/fingers)

It's a nightlight-mushroom that evolves into a lamp-mushroom.
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>>29349193

>Snowman

Pic related.

>Type changing Cat

Was never in any of the credible leaks.
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>>29349476
Perhaps one day we shall receive a real snowman
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>>29346315
It's the anthro and waifu gen. I wish there were fewer "this is a person in a fursuit" designs, because I find them very off-putting. Salandit (the best Pokemon of this gen) evolving into that disgusting waifubait is probably enough to condemn this to "worst gen" alone.

I just want to train magical animals. I don't want to fuck them.
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>>29347404
Alola Exeggutor looks like a gag but I think it's pretty interesting from a design perspective and it fits a tropical region really well, being a palm tree and all. I like it way better than the original.

On the whole though they are pretty disappointing. Exeggutor, Marowak and Muk are the only ones I like more than the originals, I think Ninetails and Sandslash are great too, the rest either feel like jokes or just dont look that good.
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>>29349595
And by interesting design and concept I mean that it feels like an actual regional evolution, something I look at and think yeah, it makes sense that being in a tropical region would have that effect on a Pokemon. Very few Alola forms gave me that feeling, it feels like they are too reserved. I would've actually preferred more out there designs for most of them
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>>29346315
there's too many single stage lines. discounting the legendaries, 14/35 lines being single stage is too much. adding the tapus, UBs and the rest into it doesn't make it any better either because then it turns into 28/50. it's such a bizarre gen.

there's a few of them i really like but some like komala just feel so incomplete.
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>>29346397

You forgot no fossils. What the fuck is that all about?
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Other than a few mistakes here and there, one of the best generations. The most boring is hand down Johto; I can't even pick a top three from those terrible designs
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>>29346784
>dragon/steel jangmo-o

lmao butthurt steelfag detected. just because the line didn't go the way you wanted does not make it missed potential. they had a concept they were doing and went with it, just because you and your friends had other ideas where it was going is not their problem. they never played up the jingling armor at all, that was just steelfag logic for why they were so certain it would be steel when it meant fuck all.

it's a dragon/fighting warchief and that's totally fine and not missed potential at all.
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>>29348995
>3 evolution lines
i decided to compare the other gens with how much 3 evo lines they have (not counting cross-evos like Magby and Magmortar)
>Gen 1: 16 (Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Caterpie, Weedle, Pidgey, Nidoran F, Nidoran M, Oddish, Poliwag, Abra, Machop, Bellsprout, Geodude, Gastly, Dratini)
>Gen 2: 6 (Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile, Mareep, Hoppip, Larvitar)
>Gen 3: 15 (Treecko, Torchic, Mudkip, Wurmple, Wurmple again, Lotad, Seedot, Ralts, Slakoth, Whismur, Aron, Trapinch, Spheal, Bagon, Beldum)
>Gen 4: 6 (Turtwig, Chimchar, Piplup, Starly, Shinx, Gible)
>Gen 5: 19 (Snivy, Tepig, Oshawott, Lillipup, Pidove, Roggenrola, Timburr, Tympole, Sewaddle, Venipede, Sandile, Gothita, Solosis, Vanillite, Klink, Litwick, Axew, Deino)
>Gen 6: 8 (Chespin, Fennekin, Froakie, Fletchling, Scatterbug, Flabebe, Honedge, Goomy)
>Gen 7: 7 (Rowlett, Litten, Popplio, Pikipek, Grubbin, Bounsweet, Jangmo-o)
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>>29349854
Percentage of three stages introduced in each gen:

Gen 1: 10%
Gen 2: 6%
Gen 3: 11%
Gen 4: 5.6%
Gen 5: 12%
Gen 6: 11%
Gen 7: 9%

Reminder that faggots crying about "muh three stages pokemens" are retarded because Gen 7 has about the same ratio of three stages as all the other gens.
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>>29347256

This isn't Gen. 5
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>>29346315
After XY, I really doubt it.
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>>29346397
None of those are real reasons.
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>>29347256
That's Gen 5 f a m, no other gen screwed up harder then it and none will.
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>>29350221
Your math is off. You're counting only base forms of the three stages and then putting it out of ALL the Pokemon in the gen. It doesn't work that way, you need to count each line only as one. Gen 1 has 15 three stage lines and ~63 single or two staged lines so the actual number is 19%.
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>>29349568
>muh furfag boogeyman
Stay mad. If you let something like this get in your way to liking certain pokemon, then it's all your fault and probably don't even deserve to play the game.
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>>29346333
This. Too many of Johto mons were available in fucking Kanto.
Kalos was pretty bad too, with all the new entries in the dex being drowned by the old ones.
There's also Sinnoh which initially unlocked new evolutions of old mons (and said old mons) only after you beat the E4.
In the light of all this - Alola looks fine.
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>>29349568
>Salandit (the best Pokemon of this gen) evolving into that disgusting waifubait

If you didn't realize this would happen after reading Sandlit's description, you deserve to be disappointed for being an idiot.
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>>29347245
BW had the most Pokemon ever and is the same lenght as every other Pokemon game, even XY or GSC, which have the least.
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>>29346315
A third of them are legendaries wtf
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>>29349568
Salandit2 is literally a longer salandit with a smug face. If you think it's "waifubait", i'm sorry for you but you're the furfag.
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Can we kill the beasts?
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>>29346315
Is this the confirmed number order?
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It's really not bad. There are quite a lot of genuinely good designs going on here. My only issues are that I'd like to see some of those forms be their own evolutions and simply that I'd like to have had more of these good designs (i.e. more Pokemon).
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>>29347404
There really does seem to have been a lot of wasted potential with this concept. I agree that more would have helped, even if they just stuck with the Gen 1 mons. I mean, there's so many in the Dex already, why not?
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>>29349476
>Type changing Cat

Silvally? It has cat ears.
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>>29346315
Only problem is there needs to be more
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>>29346315
I HATE having less than 100 new Pokemon
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>>29346315
that was gen 6
i could at least pick out a full team i want to use out of these guys
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>>29346784
I'll say that I like bruxish as a single evo, but that use of the under bite is great. The gaudiness as well, but mostly the under bite. Just to autistically state for the record though, Hawaii doesn't have anything large or volitons esque like that one, only what are essentially dwarfs. Foreign species are actually banned. Not that it matters.
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>>29349193
>Type changing Cat

Wasn't it a "cat changing type by breeding"? It's Alolan Meowth.
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>>29348964
0/10 didnt even mention the best gen 2 pokemon.
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>>29346333
This, honestly.

Johto gave us babies, a ton of single stage shitmons (most who didn't get an evolution til Sinnoh), stuff like Noctowl, Furret, and Ledian who are amongst the worst of their respective archetypes, and side evolutions like Slowking, Politoed, and Bellossom who all basically less remembered and worse than their predecessors.

People complain about the lack of 3 stage evolutions in the Alola Dex but it actually has more than the number of full 3 stage families introduced in Johto.

I get Johto Dex was meant to be more of a companiondex to Kanto Dex but when taken alone, it's fairly abyssmal. Pokemon like Stantler, Girafarig, and Delibird are not high aspirations to top.
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>>29352634
This isn't to say we didn't get some cool stuff from Johto but its shitmon are some of the lowest and most forgettable in the entire franchise.
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>>29346315
Yep shittiest selection of pokemon to date, even Kalos is better than this horse shit.
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>>29352634
Johto is quite literally the Kanto dex because the original number of pokemon to be released in Gen 1 was supposed to be 191 but they scrapped it and took out 100 to be used for the second generation, yes you heard me EVERY KANTO AND JOHTO MON IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN ONE REGION. That is why Johto feels empty or incomplete because it is.
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>>29346315
That would be the gen that removed the Battle Frontier, contests, ball capsules, etc. for Pokemon Musicals.
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>>29346784
So the point you're making is that your expectations weren't met? Get a grip, that's your own fault.
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>>29346315
Thats kanto
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>>29352723
That same Gen introduced PWT, PokéStar, Hidden Abilities, ect.

Fuck your shitty Contests and Frontier.
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>>29352707
We know this.
That's why we're talking about evaluating the Johto dex independent from Kanto
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>>29353459
Not him bust considering the Dex was literally invented for a game that shared two Regions, its completely unfair to compare it to the rest.

The Dex was meant to be a Gen 1 expansion, not a new Generation.
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>>29349476
What about the dolphin pokemon?
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>>29346315

-This gen ruin Morelull the best mushroom Pokemon.

-This gen don't have fossil Pokemon.

-This gen have only 1 ice type Pokemon.

Now I wait for Gen 8.
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>>29355280
I honestly think the leaker is retarded and mistook Wishiwashi's school form as the dolphin.
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>>29355359

D/P remakes will be giving a lot of Pokémon Ice-Type Sinnoh forms, I bet
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>>29355280
Isn't that the purple Tapu??
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>>29347011
Same company that decided to make Gen 4 predominately dark blues.
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>>29346315
not only boring, more like stupid.
Y
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>>29355405
>>29355405
Ice is already one of the more common types for Alola forms.
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>>29353389

Nah, I wasn't "expecting" all of those things. Most of them are just my retrospective thoughts.
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>>29346315
Of course not.
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>>29355510
>>29347011
Yeah honestly the first few gens did the best job of balancing colors, even if Hoenn has a slight trend toward green. Sinnoh is dark blues and purples, and Unoa is just dark shades in general.
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