You guys are fucking hilarious

>>29294134
So, you got any proof, mate?

Is it real senpai? :D?

>>29294134
Sweet thanks man

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>>29294134

OH SHIT IT MIGHT BE REAL DUDE GOOGLE SEARCH POPPED UP NOTHING :D

YO ANON YOU ARE THE BOMB I COULD DO YOUR HISTORY HOMEWORK HOW SWAG YOU ARE!

>>29294134
wait what

>>29294134
PLEASE BE TRUE XD

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>>29294134
OP here again.

Here's another.

I didn't say they were anything worth dying over but at least the kids can eat.

>>29294134
I work at gamefreak, everything he says is true, we even brought Iwata back from the dead to announce it.

Tbh Anon I love it like serious it makes sense. Why oh god why with it being tropical islands with lots of new mons specially sea floor mons would there be at most three maybe four pokemon for a BIG ASS VOLCANO XD oh god we were so stupid. We were so deadlocked on all the rest we probably didn't count up all of each type and compare type group sizes and where they were gonna be found etc.

>>29294312
Real OP here. This is not me and also a fakemon by one of my favorite artists. A shitty fake though. http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=990144

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>>29294134
I can't find OPs pic online. Anyone else?

http://fantasticfakemon.com/post/38971945195/exongi-mushoom-fire-poison-artist
Nothing to see here, move along.

>>29294134
>surprise trailer
You had me until there OP.

Real OP here. If you buy this game, Ohmori will personally come to your house and give you a blow job as a thank you and let you design a Pokemon to put into gen 8.

>>29294413
What if I buy 3 games?

Real OP here, I'm going to post another in about 5 minutes

There's gonna be an NX announcement tomorrow so theres always hope :)

>>29294488
3 blowjobs, but only one Pokemon.

Real OP here, IT'S

Weren't there some black spaces in the sprite collection of the datamine? Are there still Pokémon we haven't seen yet?

>>29294604
They seem to have been junk (?) data for totem Pokemon.

>>29294601
OH SHIT HE WAS TAKEN OUT BY A SNIPER! GET D

>>29294689
OR WORSE, CANDLEJACK GOT HI-

This post gives me hope. If it gets extinguished, at least I had hope.

>>29294134
That actually looks good so theres no way its real.

>>29294405
Those aren't even the same thing

>>29294405
Are you blind?

>>29294838
this, the only similarities between that and OP's picture is that its a mushroom and its on fire

>>29294601
THE

>>29294601
FINALLY HERE

>>29294995
COCONUT GUN

>>29294134
>Grass/Fire
>not a tiki
ah well, it still looks cool anyway

>>29294726
But he didn't even mention Candlejack how cou

>>29295039
CAN FIRE IN SPURTS

>>29294134
I'm not buying it. The two images shown seem to have the same level of jpg compression loss. I think they were both posted by OP, who then claimed the second one wasn't him to save face.

>>29294777
>>29294838
>>29294897
Retards

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>>29295617

>>29294134
Also, they both have very similar file names. 99% certain this guy's full of shit.

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>>29295617
>being this fucking retarded

>>29295638
>>29295652
Just stop.

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>>29295692

>op hasn't responded in more than57 minutes
Happening

>>29295743
Are you 12?

>>29295098
IF HE SHOOTS YA

I want it to be true.

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>>29295778
>Still responding to them
Anon. .
>>29294134
please Ohmori

>>29295778
>projecting

>>29294134
If only

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>>29294357
REAL OP here. Pic related is another new one, one of my favorites

Any confirmation yet or are we just chalkin' this one up to a fake piece of shit?

>>29296526
Madeline Swimmer Zimmer or no deal.

>>29295077
Another fucking Candlejack thre

What the fuck is this Candlejack shit you'all talkn

>lol le funny candlejack meme lmao xdddd
grow up you manch

>>29295814
ITS GONNA HURT

>>29294601
THE NUTSHACK

What's Candlejack abo

>>29294726
>>29295077
>>29296664

Candlejack. There, it's over. Fucking hell.

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>>29296912

>>29296892
Some weird cartoon thing where if you type his name, he kills you in mid-comment, and then hits post for some reason.
If you ask me, the whole Candlejack thing is fucking retar

>>29296912
Of course you can say your own name

>>29294405
not even remotely similar looking, dude. kys

>>29294181
cut the shit, carlos

>>29296912
Nice try, Candlejack. You can't fo

>>29296986
Actually in the cartoon you just have to mention Candlejack's name and he will kidnap you mid-sent

>>29297112
What is Candlejack, some kind of shitty creepypa

>>29296986
So this Candlejack guy also fills out the captchas for you? I call bullsh

>It's another Candlejack thr

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>>29294134
I would love for this faggot to be real. I REALLY like the designs of a lot of the new mons. I HATE teh UBs and some of the others. All together I feel like the design team got replaced half way through and the new guys just threw some shit together and called it a day. A bunch of the designs don't feel like Pokemon. That water spider, the UBs, the teddy bear, a bunch of others, etc. They just look.... off.. As if they were designed for something else, or by someone who wasn't sure what they were doing. And there just don't seem to be enough.

I would be overjoyed to find out there were some more they kept out of the datamine.

Who's candlejack

STOP PRETENDING CANDLEJACK IS A THING HE'S NOT EVE

I'm in public Candlejack can't do sh

Candlejack is the worst mem

>>29297232
>>29297250
>>29297284
>>29297170
>>29297165
>>29297164
stop samefagging about candlejack its not funny you retar

>>29297210
You don't know who candlejack is? Are you a newf

Man I haven't seen a thread about Candlejack in a long ti

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Candlejack always wins.

>>29296717
Cut this Candlejack mem

I hate Candlejack so mu

>>29294995
HE'S BIGGER

That's Candlejack? How la

I'm so glad I can post in this thread without vanishing. Thanks, everybody, for making me feel so safe and secure. Honestly, I don't know what my family would do if I suddenly stopped showing up for family dinners because of some stupid spook.

Oh well, I hope you're all okay wherever Candlejack took y

>>29297952
>>29297913
>>29297661
nice fucking meme faggo

>>29298038
That' not how it works. You have to mention Candlejack's name fi

>>29298038
>>29298102
Candlejack suc

>>29297723
BETTER

Candlejack is a shitty meme.

I'm so glad I bought a 4chan pass, now Candlejack doesn't have to fill out my ca

>>29298791
AND STRONGER TOO

>>29298886
you forgot faster

>>29298906
shit your right

>>29294134

fire mushroom pokemon

now this is something to get hype over

So is this real?

At the very least undisprovable?

>>29299120
It has not yet been proven false.

If it is false it must have been very recently drawn, can't find any thing like it through google, or around DA.

Please Real

Not Real

>>29299120
we will know tomorrow, when this "surprise trailer" airs. I want it it be real, but dont get your hopes up friendo

>>29294134
kek. give it up op. yes, we, like you, are still in denial at how small the alola dex is. sad, but eh, i'm still hyped.

>>29299157
All right, I guess we'll find out tomorrow if OP is lying or not if nobody can find a similar picture

>>29294134
Isn't that a familiar from Ni no Kuni?

>>29299858
Doesn't seem like it

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>>29299858
You're mistaken

>>29294134
It is interesting. This image is found nowhere online, according to google's reverse image search. Yet the blue fakemon (shown as a fakemon) is findable on the reverse image search.

So is the mushroom original art never posted on the internet before? If so, kudos to the artist. I guess we learn if it's real tomorrow.

I initially was not in denial about the leak. I thought the number was fine, as was the quality. But especially considering SO much stuff was removed from the demo... literally everything that doesn't happen on Melemele Island was scrubbed, shown by the script files... it seems like a strange oversight to not scrub the regional pokedex/to provide the artwork for the regional pokedex.

I still think the black squares are Trial Pokemon. It is just very strange that none is behind Hakamo-o (though the one next to Kommo-o may be a stylistic approach to showing its prior form's), and that none is behind wishiwashi (but Totem Pokemon get a stat boost from their aura - Wishiwashi's school form is a major global stat boost, and it's not like that 3D model would handle a particle effect well).

BUT it is odd that the national pokedex stops at Kommo-o, not even Lunala or Magearna. There is precedent for a generation having a smaller regional Pokedex than there are Pokemon available in the given region (Unova), and there is precedent for new Pokemon only appearing in the national pokedex (Diamond and Pearl).

Does that mean this is real? Probably not. Troll freak either stepped up their troll game real hard this round, or they got smart and are prepared to Break the Internet. I didn't think the latter was possible until reading about the scripts/looking into it more. Now, I'm unsure.

But hey OP, nice art

>>29294134
literally my mom's black mage

The easiest way to figure out if this is fake is to see if there are any mushrooms in Hawaii that are similar to this creature and are related to fire.

GRANTED, this doesn't mean the OP and image are real but simply may back the possibility by a GRAIN of salt.

>>29300247
the blue fakemon was from a poser, not the actual op.

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>>29300315
It's pretty clearly based on an Inky-Cap mushroom, but using lava instead of decomposing fungus flesh. They aren't native to Hawaii at all, since I see them around where I live occasionally.

>>29294134
Not a mon, but I love that design.

>>29300315
Don't you think it's strange that there is no lava pokemon in the Hawaiian region?

>>29300339
Yes. I just meant to show that in comparison to the Fire mushroom. The difference being that, if this is fanart, this is pretty much the first time it's ever been posted.

By the way: it's supposedly dropping tomorrow. It's already tomorrow in UTC-4, let alone japan.

I'm not going to get my hopes up until 9am UTC-4/EST, which is when stuff is usually revealed.

>>29300385
How interesting

Thanks for telling anon

>>29300514
On that note: if the poster was anywhere where it was already Thursday when he posted... Then we may not get this mon until Friday 9am UTC-4.

On the topic of legitimacy... Has any Pokemon been leaked here first?

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>>29294134
Can I suck it?

>OP drew his own fakemon just to troll us
Stop trying to get my hopes up

>>29300561
Starter evos.

>>29300561
Technically Russian but Drampa, Bruxish, Comfey and I think Cutiefly all got traction here

>tomorrow

I always appreciate when predictions are for the next day or within the next few days. It softens the blow when it turns out to be fake. At least I'm not waiting for months.

>>29300573
Most likely. And gone without a trip, without a trace.

>>29300573
If he did, then kudos because it looks like it could be real.

>>29300561
>has anything been leaked here first

Howdy newfriend. Yes, the starter evos for starters, then the mons the other reply mentioned, as well as Alola Raichu and Wishiwashi.

>>29300682
Hey there. Was on for XY pre-release, stayed on for a few months after, then fell out of touch. Probably won't stay long after sun/moon is out... Reddit just moves too slowly sometimes.

Can someone with a keener eye than I determine whether this resembles the artwork that's been put out for SM so far?

It doesn't look like anything we've seen in terms of shading. But maybe it's just the quality of the image is low (it appears as if it's been downloaded and shared a few times, especially through a phone.

>>29294134
PUT ME IN THE SCREEN CAAAAP

>>29300760
Kys

>>29294134
>Grass/Fire
Were it true, boyo. Were it true.

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Has anyone noticed how blotchy the drawing looks? Almost as if someone saved it on their computer, sent it to a phone, and then sent it to their computer?

...guys?

>>29300902
Kiss your soul to you too :^)

The design is too detailed to be a gen 7 pokemon

>>29300931
uh, yeah, everyone has noticed. the "has anyone else..? am i the only one who..?" rhetoric is inherently simpleton.
poor image quality does not equal invalidity, and it's not really that notable that it has jpeg artifacts and compression. that tends to just fucking happen because a lot of people dont think to download pixel perfect resolution PNGS of everything.

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>>29300931
Looked at some sugimori art for past fire starters to see how fire was handled as well as shading.

It's consistent with Delphic shading if not more intense. It's a different coloring/shading style than gen 4 and 5 though.

BUT what is the same as gen 4, 5, and 6 is the Fire artwork. The lines are consistent with fire lineart on all those Fire starters. And the patterns are similar as well.

If anything, it's almost too similar. Infernape has the spirals on its shoulder, and the shape of its Fire in its official artwork is almost identical to this mushroom's.

Is that reassuring or damning?

>>29301020
>new pokemon are overdesigned
>new pokemon are underdesigned

Can you idiots just pick one already

>>29300931
And then you saved it as a jpg again
nice work anon

>>29301059
>implying they're the same people

>>29300815
>>29300931
Take my words with a grain of salt since I'm kind of an idiot, just a heads up.

The shading is indeed not like the one we've seen this generation. This gen has a very marked distinction between where the light hits a character and where there is a shadow. This mushroom fellow has a more... lumpy style of shading, if you get what I mean.

However, we've never seen how a magma/lava-like pokemon would look like in this gen. Also, notice the head and the little lumps at the bottom have this gen's style of shading.

>>29301020
Explain Alolan Muk, Wimpod's evo and the anchor mon from the leaks, then.

In my opinion, I think we need to wait for this so-called surprise trailer to see if it's real or not. Google Images shows no results, and the drawing is obviously meant to be a pokemon and not a critter of another monster catching game. It could be a real leak, but it could also be a picture that got shared over and over again over Skype.

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>>29301058
For reference.

>>29301055
>does not equal invalidity

That's not what I'm suggesting. Quite the opposite--I find the fact that it's clearly been downloaded and shared despite not being on reverse image search suspicious, lending credence to the thought that it's real. Of course, you might have been able to figure that out if you didn't sperg off the handle in your first line.

If OP just drew this to fuck with us, why would it have been downloaded and compressed?

>>29301058
I noticed the spiral on it and immediately thought of the Chimchar line. Do you know who drew/designed that line?

>>29301059
some of them are overdesigned digimon and then some of them are completely undesigned like the Toucan. There is no in between

>>29301141
>If OP just drew this to fuck with us, why would it have been downloaded and compressed?
because he wanted to make us believe it's real and went the extra mile to fuck with us

>>29294134
definitely fake, this is 100% western fanart

the pokedex as shown in the leaks is the final one

>>29301238
Yeah, but how many people would even think of that? If anything, the level of compression, such as the one seen in the original starter leak, cast suspicion on the leaks. I remember being there on June 4th and people were denying them based solely on how blurry they were--surely a "real" leak would be more high quality?

>>29301248
>"I literally ignored the ENTIRE thread"

>>29301248
I mean, it's not absolutely impossible that we get New Pokemon in the national dex... Gen 4 did it, so it's not unheard of. And this gen is known for breaking convention so far.

Not saying this is real or that we have more Pokes, but it's not impossible.

Looks like something James Turner would design.

>>29301141
>>29301141
>>29301141
Takao Unno

Other known Pokémon: Mega Garchomp, Rufflet, Braviary, Purrloin, Pansage, Pansear, Panpour, Archen, Virizion, Cobalion, Terrakion, Garchomp, and Buizel. He was supposedly on for Gen 3 as well.

>>29301311
Fuck that Western faggot.

>>29301314
True, but Sugi drew the art. I wonder whose swirl that is?

>>29301271
This. Unless the image quality was absolutely horrid it's often not a good indicator for telling if a leak is real or not.

It's obvious that the starter leaks got shared around constantly as .jpeg pictures between the developers/concept artists/etc. , the same could have happened here.

>>29301314
>Mega Garchomp, Rufflet, Braviary, Purrloin, Pansage, Pansear, Panpour, Archen, Virizion, Cobalion, Terrakion
w e l p

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>>29301320
Fuck you for not liking Golette Line or Phantump line.

>>29301271
>Yeah, but how many people would even think of that?
Dunno but it still seems more likely to me than gamefreak allowing the demo leak to happen on purpose and still having more pokemon up their sleeves

>>29301314
Quite the large variation. I suppose tomorrow is our only shot unless we can 100% discredit this.

I for one would be joyous if it were a real leak.

>>29301353
That's probably the big indicator that I think this might be real. I find it hard to believe that the following series of events occurred within the last two 48 hours:

1. A very talented artist drew a new Pokemon in Gamefreak's style with the express purpose of tricking people on 4chan
2. That said drawing was so high quality that it is almost indeterminable whether it is true or not
3. That said design is something so unique. I don't think "lava inky-cap mushroom" is a design many people would come up with.
4. That said artist then decided to compress his file multiple times to show it had been shared

>>29301387
>allowing the demo leak to happen on purpose

I don't think anyone's suggested that. Perhaps they successfully scrubbed some Pokemon entirely? Perhaps this mon is introduced in the National Dex, like Rotom, and thus wasn't in the regional dex's files?

>>29301387
Tomorrow we'll find out if this datamining was all part of GameFreak's keikaku or if they truly just fucked up bad.

>>29301286
no i read the whole thing, what did i miss? that it looks like an official design? a lot of fakemon do

strays too far from the design conventions of gen 7, particularly the yellow lumps scattered around the body (GF has displayed a marked preference in simplifying designs since the change to 3D)

>>29301421
Same, I want the leakers to be BTFO harder than the denialfags were after the mid-evo reveals.

>>29301484
>change to 3D

It unironically looks like a design that would only be possible IN 3D. It's very clear that the red blobs are supposed to be dripping, like wax from a candle. Something that was clearly not viable in 2D (see Litwick).

>>29301421
Yeah, definitely interesting. There is no precedent for him designing a Pokemon without legs - but it's not like his designs have a consistent style, nor would he be creating the final official artwork. I think you're right. If no trailer by Friday, 9am UTC-4, I'd suspect fake. Definitely if not by 11:59 Japan time Friday.

Hopefully we get info eight hours from now or confirmation that it's fake.

But again... Is there precedence for a "surprise reveal"? I feel like there isn't for this gen, nor was there for Gen VI. Why now - and why this weird mom? It doesn't look particularly spectacular, especially compared to the leaked dex.

>>29294357
Actual legitimate OP here. Pokemon Sun and Moon are only releasing in Antarctica and Ukraine.

>>29301387
Ever notice how Nintendo hasn't completely nuked Kaphotics Youtube account yet? It's probably because they wanted to use the datamine as a means to build up hype, because obviously stuff like the Wimpod evo and leaked starters finally being 100% confirmed is going to get people excited for the game. Now I'm not saying that this is necessarily the case, but the idea that Nintendo is playing our game too isn't exactly far fetched either.

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>>29301550

>>29301536
Honestly, the fire looks rather fake to me, like it was added on after the fact.

>>29301536
>why this weird mon
If GF really expected the demo to get leaked, and the new mons to get spread all over the internet, what would make a better reveal than one that specifically wasn't in those leaks?

>>29297164
Freakazoid, my apparently Google-less friend

I'm going to say this is legit. Think about it. We got a big-ass volcano/steam vent area, and Turtonator is the only alolan fire type besides the litten line we have?

I'm going to say this is legit, but my opinion counts for shit all, so we'll see.

>>29296855
Todokete

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>>29294134

>>29301580
>Ever notice how Nintendo hasn't completely nuked Kaphotics Youtube account yet?
Oh fuck, I knew I wasn't the only one who found that weird.

Remember when Drampa and co. got leaked? Nintendo immediately found out and nuked the original videos. It's extremely weird Kaphotics (and any streamer and YouTuber that shared the images) hasn't gotten the same punishment for leaking far more important stuff.

This is just my hopes speaking, though.

>>29301659
WOAH WOAH WOAH, WHAT?

Okay, where did you find this?

>>29294134
2 mushrooms in one gen?

If this turns out to be true I will use both of them.

>>29301631
Yeah, but as a SURPRISE? Why not wait until the 27th, when they already said they were providing more info? I don't think there is precedent for a surprise reveal trailer.

If any, now WOULD be the best time to do it. Just barely long enough after the demo that they purposefully didn't scrub enough despite scrubbing so well in almost every area to ensure that it would be datamined. People who are datamine-spoiler-free wouldn't know any better, datamine-watchers would get a huge surprise, nobody is hurt in the process.

But is TrollFreak really on that level? I highly doubt it, as much as I want to.

>>29294134

I want this to be real if only for the Grass/Fire typing...

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>>29301659
oh my gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawd

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>>29301659
>STILL no results on Google Images
MY LITTLE HEART CAN'T TAKE IT

>>29301659
>>29301675

It's not like that artwork couldn't be cleaned up/recreated after being posted here.

>>29301461
>Perhaps they successfully scrubbed some Pokemon entirely?
That doesn't really make sense, before we were assuming that game freak is so incompetent that they just didn't think about the shiny models and team preview ones. Why would they remove pokemon but not the others?
>Perhaps this mon is introduced in the National Dex, like Rotom, and thus wasn't in the regional dex's files?
That's possible. Don't think it's happened since gen IV though
>>29301580
It's possible that's the reason they left it up but they could also just not care about the leaks much.

Is real

>>29301728
Which is why I'm asking anon where they got it. Did they make it, did they find it hidden in some weird deep net fuck dungeon? Tell me!

>>29301739
>but they could also just not care about the leaks much.
Maybe you're right, but it wouldn't explain why they were so anal about all previous leaks like Drampa and Luchalitten, but not this.

Did they just give up?

>>29294134
Any input/discussion on any other discussion outlet? Reddit, Gamefaqs, etc...? Word from SerebiiJoe/Kaphotic/crunchy612?

>>29301675
>>29301712
On mobile it's the same quality

An Anon was here on 10/11 and leaked some info, all of which I believe turned out to be true, including Alolan Graveler line and Type Null having an Arceus gimmick. Anon said there were 101 new pokemon. He also said:
>There will be a surprise announcement on the 18th alongside the demo. One thing covered is third stage evolutions. Leaks are real, but the designs are a bit different. Not much. Split evolutions are also reveleaved in this announcement. Ask me anything, I'll try and answer to the best of my abilities.

So maybe the surprise announcement was delayed until tomorrow? I really felt like this leaker was legit.

>>29301659
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/
Zoom in and compare brush strokes on something like Ninetales. Seems a bit different, but not different enough to safely say one way or another.

>>29301806
>but the designs are a bit different

But they weren't, not one bit.

>>29301806
>split ev-
No

>>29301722
>>29301712
>>29301675
easiest (you)s I've ever gotten
it's like you guys have never used waifu2x, pls be smarter next time

I'm not finding anything through iqdb or anything either though

Current opinions from me.

>Leak is real and nobody can prove it wrong.
>Leak is fake, but we can't prove it wrong because it's OC do not steal.
>Leak is fake, but so obviously so that the guys usually debunking this shit don't care.

>>29301806
The number's not even right. If there's 38 more pokemon, then we'd only have datamined 63. We've seen 73.

>>29301647
The concept is top tier, and the design seems to be fairly consistent with GF's art style. I think we've got another Robinhoot on our hands where we can tell that it's probably real based purely on the quality of it's concept alone. This thing was obviously made by a professional, because what fakemon artist is going to think to make a pokemon based on something as obscure as a decomposing mushroom? Just like what fakemon artist is going to think to design a Robin Hood owl with wingbows? Normally I'm extremely skeptical of leaks like this, but the design checks out.

Apparently the sound file for the Team Skull music has "YEAH" in it. In the audio. As an image.

Game Freak's playin' us, I'm pretty sure.

>>29301860
I saw that - it was fucking hilarious

So did the dataminers hide things or did GameFreak?

I find it hard to believe that they'd have the foresight to only let SOME of the pokemon leak. It seems very unlikely.

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>>29301883
>>29301860

>>29301860
Source?

>>29301860
>>29301883
But why?

>>29301896
The dataminers found the regional dex. Maybe 38 pokemon in nat dex only? Unlikely. Maybe the last 38 simply aren't in the files necessary for the demo?

>>29301896
If they have National Dex only Pokemon, it would explain this one not leaking.

>>29301896
>I find it hard to believe that they'd have the foresight to only let SOME of the pokemon leak. It seems very unlikely.
I don't believe this leak because I don't want to get my hopes up but I'd be really happy if it was real. That being said, it is a bit weird that there's no third legendary counterpart to Solgaleo and Lunala.

>>29301918
Why would they have that, though? New Pokemon have never been put into the National Dex and not their original game's Dex.

>>29301937
>Rotom

>>29301937
New Pokemon for post-game content? I'd be down, but that's highly unlikely

>>29301937
A bunch of the 4th gen Pokemon (including Rotom) were National Dex only in DP.

>>29301659
The only thing odd to me at this point is Gamefreak perfectly scrubbing everything but those models of the actual Pokémon. It's as if they wanted us to find them. Then again, it's Gamefreak. I wouldn't put it past them to just forget.

Personally, I think this Pokémon is hella fake. It looks like a real Pokémon, but I can't get past Gamefreak actually giving us 100 new Pokémon. It's just no plausible. After I saw the dex from the datamine, it clicked with me: "oh. of course they're only going to give this amount again."

Sucks, but it is what it is. I love all the mons in this gen, so I'm not complaining. But better we accept that is it guys now rather than later and stop believing that OPs who start threads off using dataminefag terminology have actual legit Pokémon information

>>29301937
DP had the cross-gen evos and the legendaries in the National Dex.

Also, not the same but there were Gen 2 Pokemon you could only find in Kanto.

The art looks a little too good for this Gen. Don't need proof to know it's fake.

The split evos is what makes me think that leak was definitely fake. As much as I want to believe, that's been disproven entirely.

>>29301852
I realize the numbers don't quite match up. But I suppose that could be whether or not you count forms as different pokemon. He also said Turtonator would have a prevo which I'm still hoping will be true. How would he have known about Alolan Graveler and Grimer before they were announced?

>Anonymous 10/11/16(Tue)02:24:35 No.29053352▶
>>29053369 >>29053386 >>29053699 >>29053715
>>29053321
Three more Alolan Forms. Geodude line, Grimer line, and Alolan Persian.

Does anyone else find it weird that fucking Slugma, Magcargo, Numel, and Camerupt aren't in the regional dex?

That seems like a huge oversight, unless there were new lava/volcano Pokemon...

>>29301896
>>29301918
>>29301931
>>29301937
>>29301849
>>29301806
Listen you fucking faggots, look at >>29301659

The lineart is messy and gross as shit (compare it to any official art from this gen), shading is bad, the person who was responsible for coloring was clearly unwieldy with the smudge tool (the flame and body specifcally), the entire dex basically leaked, etc

For those of you who want to argue that they "recreated" the image from the JPEG in the OP, you literally cannot do that with the level of accuracy displayed

Go to bed you fucking retards

>>29302034
Are you retarded? This post >>29301843 admitted to using a third-party program to create this from OP's image

>>29294134
I would love for this to be real but am i the only one wbo sees the bpdy from lilligant head from parasect and drips from slugma?

>>29302034
Looks like they used an auto cleaner tool, which can cause images to take on a blurry/smudgy quality.

Not saying it's real, but don't go calling out bullshit when all that comes out of your mouth is pure liquid diary smoothie.

>>29301937
Rotom, as explained. But it also seemed to have legendary status in DP, then got demoted as shown by its music.

But also, the game DOES seem to be missing some obvious mons... As much as I'm not one to just hop on a meme, it seems weird that Solrock, Lunatone, and Bellossom aren't in the game. It's not like there are a lot of grass types (looking at you, 50-water-types-pre-form-changes-in-regional-dex) in the regional dex.

Maybe a small post-game island with another volcano/volcanic activity and a jungle? Like for Loihi or Kauai? Though again, that seems a big stretch.

>>29302034
I mean, I don't really think it's real either but I did recreate it anon, use this to put the pic through twice on highest noise reduction and there you go it'll be identical. Don't be so mad when you don't know anything yourself, you're the worst kind of poster.
http://waifu2x.udp.jp/

>>29302071
>>29302066
Yeah nice one you fucking retards, all of the errors i pointed out in the lineart still hold true into the OP's image regardless of the artifacts (if you bothered giving it a look)

Kill yourselves

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>>29302034
>>29302066
>>29302127

I literally just did it now, just this second. Check my image.

>>29302127
as nice useful as the site is there was a lot of jpeg noise going on, of course it's going to fuck the lineart if you put it through a cleaner, it happens with every pic you put through

>>29302134
see he did it too

>>29302013
No mention of dugtrio though

He shall be known as Magmungi and live in my heart forever even after he's proven fake

>>29302070
Someone please dissprove me

Don't break my heart, OP.

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>>29302214
Sure

>>29302214
While it has semblance to those parts, none of it looks closely enough to those parts to raise any suspicion. If it's fake, he may have modified those parts far enough that I can't see them being that at all. Especially the Slugma bits, that's just lava either way.

Ok OP, now that your precious thread has died down, can you please put us out of our misery and peel back the curtain?

>>29302070
I didn't think of that anon. Thats pretty plausible that it's a mashup of those three. The shapes aren't entirely the same but could have been easily edited to make those slight changes.

>>29302183
That or Fungolten would probably be his name in English.

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>>29302127
>High Quality Line Art

Sugimori lines never are perfectly uniform thickness. I don't see much of a difference in line-ing.

Since it was a while ago since someone last mentioned it - the shading is definitely weird. But it's also weird that we haven't had a lava Pokemon in a Hawaiian region, or any fire types really. In fact, only 14 Pokemon pre-form/form changes are fire (17 including Oricorio, Castform, and Silvally). And we haven't had a lava Pokemon in a while. So who knows how it's reflected in new, official art.

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OP here, I'm back.

>>29302279
Either you're not OP, or you just proved the fake, cause that's not a Pokemon.

At this point, how do we confirm OP is OP? No trip

>>29302279
(You)

>>29302273
I find it extremely troubling that Slugma and Camerupt are absent from the dex

>>29302279
>>29302294
file names are completely different, probably >>29302127 this guy trying to derail thread. Quit it, Ohmori!

>>29302294
It looks real to me. You're just butthurt because it's not a waifumon, denialfag.

>>29302307
You can't, have fun in the wild wild west xD

>>29294134
Don't get my hopes up, anon. I've got them crushed once, don't be so cruel

>>29302315
and you just proved that blue pile of shit fake with that comment.

>>29301918
reminder that D/P had national-dex only new mons in it

>>29302279
I'm not art/image savy like some of you... But I really hope this is real

OP is an obvious troll, and you're all dumbasses for falling for it

>>29302376
Hypothetically, if this was real, would you not be excited at the prospect of more new Pokemon? How could that ever be a bad thing? Sure, we might get let down, but so what? It's fun while it lasts.

>>29302366
It's 100% fake and unrelated to the OP image. OP's been gone for a while.

>>29302239
Now that I looked up thos mons I can see that. Still, I feel like ive seen those components somewhere like the spiral which I was sure existed on some fire starter but I cant find it.

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>>29302313
>>29302273
>>29302160
>>29302134
I'm being trolled, right

Attached is an image of what I mean. I chose Mimikyu because he has similarly rough features that would usually warrant line inconsistencies, and he's even JPEGd because you are all retards

This isn't even a stretch tactic like the people who tried to debunk the leaked starters employed, you can compare the lineart in the OP image to literally any single official artwork from this gen and you will find the exact same thing.

>>29294134
Fake bollocks.

Take your Yokai to /v/ and claim it's a leaked Yokai Watch thing instead.

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>>29302279
>>29302315

>>29302398
>implying one artist has drawn all the Pokemon

You have no proof Sugi drew Mimmikyu.

>>29302389
b-b-b-but...my possum ;_;

>>29301905
LOOOOOL

>>29294134
Well it makes sense, why would there only be 400ish pokemon in the game?

>>29302398
Mimikyu has inconsistent line work on it's drooped ear...
Listen, I know what you're trying to say, but I'm just not seeing what you are. Yes, the art looks fake, but it sure as hell isn't because of the line work.
This thing has as art design form earlier gens, but it doesn't have the same crispness that this gen has at all. The colouring doesn't fit at all.

Also, I laughed at the file name.

>>29302398
How new are you that you don't know what sugi lines are?
>inb4 OHMORIIIIIII
You should know how the style gf likes to use is

>>29302279
Hi OP. Can you tell us anything else?

>>29302450
We definitely have had some weirder sugimori art that didn't seem to mesh with other Pokemon released at the same time. Look at Ferrothorn.

But this is a good post, and you're probably right with the analysis. It doesn't particularly look like a "this gen" design.

>>29302503
OP here you're a fag

>>29302508
It's because Sugi doesn't draw everything anymore.

I doubt he drew more than half of this gen's mon, he's mostly been seen working on the trainers.

If Mimmikyu is Ohmori, and Mushroom is Sugi, it'd explain the inconsistancy

>>29302450
What the image is trying to point out is that the white tendril (which i had circled) has linework inconsistencies that shouldn't exist considering the shape is straightforward. It fluctuates between thick and thin as though entirely drawn by hand via tablet or other similar means, and is not professionally handled by a team of artists and cleaned to match other artwork from this gen

Like fucking look at it you goddamn faggots. Look at any official Pokemon art this gen, last gen, pretty much any fucking gen and tell me line inconsistencies exist in any of those to the same degree as in OP's image.

>>29294134
Lines seem too thick

>>29302527
I really am getting too old for 4chan.... but I love pokemon

>>29294134
When have real leakers used 4chan terms that you would only know about by being a regular? This is the biggest red flag to me above all else.

>>29302559
Couldn't it be that this isn't the finalized drawing?

Find me a piece of art from this Gen that even remotely resembles the OP image.

It definitely could be a Pokemon but not from this Gen.

>>29302559
It doesn't look shaky enough for me to see the tablet-draw argument, to be honest.

Also the quality of the picture is low so you never know.

Why can't we all just agree that it's neither able to be confirmed or debunked? This thread was just fine a few minutes ago before you and other people came just to try and "disprove leakfags".

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>>29302559
You're such an angry faggot, OP is a troll but I hope it's real now just to spite you

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>>29302596
Not saying it looks like any Pokemon from this gen, but, I mean...

Find me a Pokemon from any gen that shares this guy's art-style...

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>>29302542
to be fair he was born in 1966 so hes in or around his 60s now. Guy deserves a break from drawing all these pokemon honestly.

I wake up and Op!,
I need more!!
Give me more!!!

>>29302575
Someone leaked the starters here first. Someone with information frequents 4chan.

>>29302640
>to be fair he was born in 1966 so hes in or around his 60s now
>His 60s

You mean his 50s

>>29294134
>two unrelated mushroom pokemon in one gen

I want to bayleef

>>29302640
>born in 1966
>in 60s

try 50 years old

>>29302670
whoops finger went over one number too far.

Still hes been making these since he was around 30 at this point so still I wouldnt be surprised if they have others draw in his place so he can rest.

It's a beautiful fake.

are we sure blue possum is fake? i can't find it with image searches anywhere

>>29302620
>It doesn't look shaky enough
No, it does. Look at the linework in the image closely. Then look at the linework of HQ art from any Pokemon this gen

It's not real. It's debunked, the shit just looks objectively radically different from any official art

>>29302701
I know it may seem old when you're like 20 but 50 really isn't that old. Especially when you have a career doing something you love, like drawing.

>>29294134
I want to believe but I doubt it.

>>29302279
>that facial perspective

Cmon, I want the flaming shroom. Don't do that

>>29294134
Even if it turns out to be fake it's still a cute shroom

The indecision of whether this is real or not is killing me.

>>29302896
It's not.

Should I get another beer? Is this thread gonna die? OP?

>>29294134
Is this is real then I can't wait for the shiny palette; reddish orange = light(ish) blue in pokemon

Well, the nintendo NX is having an announcement tomorrow... if there was a time to do it... eh still fake even if I really wish there were more.

OP is the baitmaster today

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>>29302279
>mfw no new pokemon

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Slugma's lineart isn't great, and this shading pattern on this lava is consistent with Slugma's.

The real weird thing to me is the red body portion.

>>29302398
>>29303066
Anon of the Mimikyu post here. Looking at Slugma, I can see that OP took inspiration from it when designing this guy, which makes sense.

That doesn't stop you blind fucks from seeing that this does NOT fit the art style of the new stuff at all.
This thing is a fucking fake you god damn retards.

Anon of the Mimmikyu post here, I was a denialfag when Mallow was shown off and I'll be a denialfag til I die

>>29303114
Definitely took inspiration from Slugma and Infernape. Damn. I've been on this thread for over two hours, it's 2am, and I was really trying to work through it. Only looking at Slugma convinced me one way or the other (that it's fake).

Bah. Disappoint. G'night

>>29303114
You're still here? Go take a nap dude, why do you hate when others have fun without you so much?

Someone should screencap all the denial in this thread just in case.

>>29303206
Which kind, the "we're not getting anymore Pokemon" denial or the "I think this Pokemon might be real" denial?

National dex is the only actual hope we have, really. It's something they've done before and it's legitimately data we don't have. That and the 14 blank spots that might be 7 totems or 7 pokemon is it.

>>29294134
we already have a shroom mon i dont believe you

>>29303223
Both

>>29294134
Fuck off with this fake garbage, you subhuman piece of shit.

>>29303252
Certainly possible. Only other thing is, I guess, that they made the demo off of an earlier build before they had finished programming all the pokemon, maybe.

>>29303223
>>29303252
The blank spots are just for non-shiny and shiny totem Pokemon.

>>29294181
You mother fucker

>>29303216
Screencap them both and sort it out later.

>>29302596
Just like Passimian and Crabrawler totally look like they belong in the same gen?

Look OP is probably a very skilled fakemon artist, it's just too weird they scrubbed only part of the dex, but as far as the actual art goes, it absolutely looks like an official artwork.

>>29303333
quads wasted on a newfag

>>29303307
I mentioned that in my post, anon. That might be the case. It's not proven yet though.

>>29303466
It's definitely the case. The spaces just happen to follow the lines we know are Totem Pokemon? How could it be anything else?

>>29303505
It doesn't follow Wishiwashi.

holy shit it's real! check Serebii

>>29303566
nope

>>29303566
dubs confirm

>>29303566
I will always check Serebii when someone says "check Serebii," just because there's a chance it might actually be on Serebii

>>29303619
Check Serebii

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>>29298444
This is some legit reddit shit right here

>>29294726
You weren't attacked by Candlejack. He doesn't add anything to your post. Hw just hits the post butto

>>29303668

>Hw

>>29303652
ITS A WEW FOR YOU IF YOU'RE THIS NEW

>>29303619
yeah.. sorry. me too. someone got me with it the other day. i'm such a bad troll. i'm sorry.

wtf is this Candlejack shit it's so reta

The Mushroom within the volcano.

>>29303505
There isn't one for Totem Hakamo-o from the demo, the blank spaces follow Kommo-o.

Is it finally over?

>>29304175
This thread is, but the mystery of the shroom will continue for the rest of today.

Real or not, lookin' forward to the end result.

>>29304187
Praise the shroom

>>29304733
...and helix