The Riddler

>>29293608
That little dark thing is in fact Marshadow's core and you must find its cells like Zygarde.

>>29293608
Explanation pleaseeee

>>29293726
its a riddle

This Chinese riddler despite being BTFO many times sure doesn't know when to give up.

>>29293608
wait riddler explains shit? I thought he just posted images.

Also who was Aristotle?

>>29293608
Is that a chinese letter?

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>>29293791
>despite being BTFO many times
>has literally never been wrong

Real tired of your shit anon.

Riddler was never wrong.

>>29293846
>>29293866
>Riddler was never wrong
Where is our snowman then?

>>29294032
Crawbrers evo. Yeti crab. He talks in key words not literal sence

>>29294032
Here we go again, the yeti crab is the snowman because in Chinese yeti and snowman have the same symbols.

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>>29294032
Yeti Crab
The yeti is also called the Abominable SNOWMAN

>>29294032
This kid doesn't know Chinese for snowman is also yeti.
Now stop shit posting

>>29294084
>Still believing the riddler despite the data mine
Kek

>>29294032
That wasn't riddler.
Snowman was a Yeti.
Literally written in chinese as "Man of Snow."
Blame the translators.

>>29294032

The original Chinese leaker is a different guy you idiot.

And that was the Crabrawler evo. 雪人 can mean either snowman or yeti. People made assumptions and then spread them without any thought for translation notes.

>>29294121
(You)

Where's our dolphin?

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>>29294364
1º Chinese leaks (dolphin, snowman, etc) are not the riddles of this chinese guy, you cunt.

2º Here is

>>29293846
He's actually be wrong exactly once:
He didn't know the toucan was pikipek's evo.
But he may have well seen the stage 1 and not made the connection.

>>29293608
That's the Z move icon.

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OP's updated Marshadow pic was in the last Riddler list I saw. Didn't notice before.

>>29293608
It changes forms when it uses it's special z-move.

>>29294659
ok
what's the fire?
Also which UB is the imprisoner?

>>29294032
Up the translator's ass for forgetting to mention that the word for Snowman is also used for Yeti

>>29294364
>>29294561
This is the only thing I find odd about this. It's really weird he called the island guardian a dolphin Pokemon considering it's extremely obvious from the moment you see it that it's an island guardian. And he knew about the other island guardians, so there's no way he saw this and thought "oh, a dolphin Pokemon" without realizing it's an island guardian.

>>29294735
I think its more likely they thought School Form was a really angry dolphin

>>29293846
He's also never been right.

>>29294032
To be completely honest, the first time I saw Crabrawler's evo, it wasn't placed next to a Crabrawler and I skimmed past it. Looked like a yeti/snowman to me.

>>29294842
Except for literally every single thing he's hinted at being revealed as something in the game.

>>29293608
>click the link
>see the pictures he's posted
>the pokedex is wrong every time
>keeps changing it with new info each time some is released
>it's still wrong every time

>>29294883
such as?

>>29294904

Anon, those are just the Pokemon that have shown up in any revealed footage of the games thus far, including trailers and promotional stuff.

Why did he put two spots after pikipek, but then a toucan separately?

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>>29294937
>>29294904

>>29294951
so he doesn't know shit?

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Guys scroll down
He posted this

>这东西外貌看像是云状物,上面还有星辰,宇宙背景,很容易想到原型是星云之类的东西,众所周知星云是恒星诞生的前身,星云聚合最后化为恒星之类的天体,虽然月球这种卫星在这里很不合时宜
>然后这东西兼具日月二神的外貌特征,所以这个和上面那个是什么关系还真不好说~
>然后是闪光:


>第一个脸颊颜色变红了,后面的核心状物质变成的红色的宇宙,类似黑洞的核,没有变化的条形双色,然后后面两个也变成红色的了~
说明什么不言而喻,以上。。。
And pic related
What does it mean?

>>29293608
Play tester reporting in.

Marshadow changes formes depending on what Z-Move is used. One for each type. Forme is permanent unless you go see some lady.

>>29294588
That's more of a lack of insight than anything.
Like a lot of people here, he may have thought that the toucan is a separate 'mon from Pikipek.

Can't blame him, really.

>>29294711
Not sure about the fire, but I think the UB is probably the big guy with mouth/stomach.

>>29294919
Mimikyu's basis, Tapu Koko's name, Solgaleo and Lunala's species, Pyukumuku's ability, Sandygast/Palossand design, toucan being an actual toucan, Oranguru's inspiration.

>>29295016
Chang eats the sun and drinks the sky.

>>29294919
>riddler posts about a monkey and a football uniform, passimian comes out
>riddler posts about rock paper scissor gestures with a sea cucumber and we get pyukumuku
>pikachu and a bedsheet before we get mimikyu
Those are specific as fuck for any of them to be coincidences and lucky guesses

>>29294883
This is bait, but fuck it

>There will be no gyms.
> Starter's final forms with be an archer, a wrestler and a siren. Siren is water fairy.
> There will be new dolphin, snowman, sea cucumber. Rockruff evolves into a werewolf.

Level 51: the red part is 'there's a fire + poison pokemon'
assuming it refers to salandit or w/e
so the red part is there's a new fire + poison mon
then 'the stone dog will evolve into a werewolf' (assuming that's rockruff there)
there's a new mushroom pokemon
Level 51: snowman pokemon
Cresselia~~ : Oh, I forgot to translate the mushroom bit.
Level 51: it's mushroom i'm pretty sure
Level 51: there's a... football monkey?
Cresselia~~ : I'd translate it as "rugby" monkey.
Level 51: there's a sea cucumber pokemon as well apparently
Level 51: it says something after that but my chinese isnt good enough to read that. don't think it refers to a new pokemon though
Cresselia~~: I think this part says "the trademarked name Marshadow is a mythical Pokemon with very unique typing."

Level 51: "there are many unmarked locations on the map, which form districts (?); these districts contain very strong pokemon, known as overlords (?)."
Cresselia~~ : I think overlords is a good enough translation.

Level 51: "the royal three are in the end distinguished as (arrow something), (breaking something hand), (siren something)
Level 51: cant find anything about starters
Cresselia~~ : "the royal three " is what we call "starters" in Chinese. It's archer, wrestler and siren.


There, everything the leaker posted and got right


> Mashadow has a very unique typing.
> Collect logo diamonds like Mega stones, but a bit different. Logo diamonds cause Pokemon to transform shape, like Ash-Greninja.

This is stuff that we can't confirm until release or GF reveals it

>>29295014

Please see a doctor, I think you might be suffering from brain damage.

>>29295071
Wait, wrong chinese leaker, fuck

Was it confirmed that the Yin riddle was Silvally? Yin --> silver --> Silvally? Been thinking about that for a few days but didn't get to ask around until now

>>29295016
He's just talking about how the prevo is going to evolve into either Solgaleo or Lunala depending on the version. He points out that the shinies are the same colour and that it has the same colours as the legendaries eyes inside it.

>>29293608
Toucan play at that game

>>29295016

It looks like it's implying both Solgaleo and Lunala are heavily related to this little guy, both having one eye of the other and the same golden border (?).

Which is odd, why would he exclude the other pre-evo-like mon like that?

unless

nah

possible split that evolves depending on night and day?

and the other pre-evo might actually belong to another legendary?

>>29295112
I believe some anon pointed out that the character used for Yin's name is also the first character in Silvally's Chinese name.

>>29294919
Before Solgaleo and Lunala were shown, he posted a picture of Litleo and Zubat together.
Before Mimikyu, he showed a picture of Pikachu under a sheet.
Before Pyukumuku, he posted a picture of innards and then rock-paper-scissors.
He posted a picture of a shovel in sand before Pallosand.
He posted a picture of a lamppost before Kommo-o. It looked exactly like its tail.
The Riddler knows most things. Not all, but the things he does know are the things he hints at.

>>29295193
Alternatively;

The cloud thing evolves into that starry thing.

So only that one has a split evo.

>>29295127
>>29295016
He's Speculating

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>>29295193
It's painfully obvious it's a split evo, probably based on your version like Rockruff
It's how they're ordered in the dex too

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>>29294919
>>29295048
>>29295067
>>29295249
dicks out for based riddler 1/3

>>29295296
What if the prevos are two forms of the same mon, depending on your version

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>>29295320
>>29294919
>>29295048
>>29295067
>>29295249
dicks out for based riddler 2/3

>>29295335
Then they wouldn't have different dex slots probably

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>>29295352
>>29295320
>>29294919
>>29295048
>>29295067
>>29295249
dicks out for based riddler 3/3

>>29295371
Lycanroc does

>>29295371
Both 'forms' of mimikyu have different 'dex slots'

>>29294588
He also had regular Diglett/Dugtrio in his list of previous gen mon in the Alola dex. See >>29294659

>>29295335
The middle form has the face of the first form in the center, with its eyes closed. It's clearly a cocoon-esque stage. The golden shell even looks like it becomes Solgaleo's mane and Lunala's wings.

>>29295320
>>29295352
>>29295380
>J-just lucky guesses and generic Pokemon

>>29295417
We never ended up figuring out what that actually meant though.

>>29295419
Or its a sleeping form in Moon, with the Awake form being in Sun
No one can say its "clearly" anything until the games come out or we have official confirmation

>>29295048
>That's more of a lack of insight than anything.

Yes, he was wrong.

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>>29295296
this

>>29295450
So he was vague and wrong?

Point is, he either didn't know about Alolan Diglett/Dugtrio and was wrong to put them on the list or he did know and didn't make it a riddle.

>>29293701
no nigga because then there would have been a sprite for 100% marshadow you dipshit

Wat

>>29295458
Wait
>lillie's mother
Lusamine is lillie's mother?

>>29295081
he put them together with ?'s in spots where evolutions are assumed or mising pokemon

except he has the wrong amount of them beside certain pokemon and also has pokemon all over the place

>>29294659
Why are the Kanto starters there?

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>>29295371
oh yeah, that would never happen

>>29295456
Oh yes, why not point out that he didn't prepare a space besides Cutiefly? Because that's like, you know, totally wrong as well.

>>29295507
Its obvious GF scrubbed half the full dex and left shit behind for hype building

>>29295564
>neo denialfags

>>29295455
It's pretty fucking clear if you're not braindead.

>>29295507
maybe, maybe not.

It could be a Skymin or Hoopa Unbound scenario where we won't get its true form until another game.

>>29295503
>So he was vague and wrong?
To be wrong about something you have to actually make a statement first.

Assuming he meant "these are the alolan Pokemon" then I guess he was wrong. But he never said that's what those Pokemon were referring to.

>>29295574
Nah at this point it's more like Shin Neo New Denialfags

>>29295528
>except he has the wrong amount of them
Show me where he says the amount of Pokemon he lists in those images accounts for every single Pokemon in the dex.

>>29295557
If he'd known the toucan was Pikipek's final evo he could easily have put it there. He didn't, because he didn't know. So, he was wrong. He didn't have any problem putting the starters leaked evos in their correct spots before they were confirmed. And he never added spots for unconfirmed evos, unless they were involved in a riddle.

>>29295620
can you answer this? >>29294978

>>29295625
That's now how it works, you fucking idiot.

>>29295584
So he made something vague and easily misinterpreted and he included something incorrect.

>>29295653
How does it work then? He put the toucan on his list, not me. What's the explanation for not putting it in its correct spot other than him not knowing?

>>29295229
Yeah, it's silver. Ok, that answers that, thanks.

>>29295696
He knew that the toucan existed and that pikipek had two evolutions.
He didn't know that the toucan was one of them.
That's not being wrong, that's not having enough info. He never claimed that it wasn't pikipek's evo.

>>29295741
Exactly. Thank you.

>>29295527
Of course. Gladion is the older brother, probably.

>>29295550
Because Charizard Poke Ride and Blastoise in concept art. Just like the Johto starters are there because Meganium was on a guy's shirt in another piece of promo art. The whole thing is just old Pokemon seen in trailers and promotional material, either directly or indirectly (like the Horsea fountain or the Whiscash boat).

>>29295043
suck my dick faggot, there is no other form of marshadow or the sprites would have been datamined, just like silvallys and zygarde. why are denialfags who hate marshadow spreading bullshit

>>29295642
Can you answer how that invalidates being right about literally everything else? Technically with our knowledge of the datamine, it could be the case where people are grasping for straws in other threads where the Toucan is an entirely different Pokemon and Pikipek is a 2-stage line.

>>29295663
>So he made something vague and easily misinterpreted
According to you it's vague and misinterpreted. His name is literally the fucking riddler. That's like complaining you didn't guess the answer to the joke before you were told the punchline. It's obviously not referring to alolan forms, otherwise it would've been 1000% wrong, so usually you would start assuming it's something else, not calling the riddle incorrect.

>>29295741
Or he just thought confirming the toucan as Pikipek's evo would've been "crossing the line". He was always very careful about not saying too much.

>>29295071
this is NOT the riddler this is the original chinese leak translated by cresselia.

>>29295741
That's exactly what being wrong means.

He 'knew' that Pikipek had 2 evos coz of offical information.
He 'knew' that the toucan was real coz of official video.

>He didn't know that the toucan was one of them.

Yes, so he was wrong. He had it in the wrong spot on his desk. He was ignorant.

>He never claimed that it wasn't pikipek's evo.

Oh, ffs. Yes he did by not putting it in the right spot. That's exactly what that means.

>>29295845
You're reaching.

>>29295625
Ah, so you're saying that he was wrong because he lacked the info about the toucan being Pikipek's evo.
Fair enough.

Personally, I won't say that not having info = being wrong. But that's arguing semantics, so I'll leave it be.

>>29295642
Lack of info.

>>29295888
What else was he supposed to do to include both pieces of info?

>>29295550
I think that's actually all the national dex available pre-bank. I know the Unovamons match up(except Vullaby, which might mean riddler has Sun and is just posting his dex?)

>>29295826
>It's obviously not referring to alolan forms, otherwise it would've been 1000% wrong, so usually you would start assuming it's something else, not calling the riddle incorrect.

Yes, obviously. So why put Diglett there if he knew it had an Alolan form. He didn't do it with any of the others.

>>29295929
You might be able to get a normal diglett by trading with an NPC?

>>29295905
Put it in the right spot if he knew.

Not leak shit if his knowledge was incomplete.

>>29295929
Because whatever that list of Pokemon is representing includes Diglett, and that list of Pokemon doesn't happen to be either non-Alolan Pokemon nor Alolan Pokemon. So what part of that makes it wrong?

What are you saying Riddler says it represents, and therefore was wrong about?

>>29295947
And maybe someone found out about Mallow and faked the starter leak.

>hur hur the riddler doesn't know absolutely everything about games so he's a faker

>>29295888
>using different meanings of a homophone to try and prove your argument
You are an idiot. Yes, some of his information was "Wrong". But in the context of leaks, wrong isn't used to mean "Something that was slightly off" it is used to mean "This was fucking fake"

Nothing riddler ever said was FAKE. The fact that he was, technically, "wrong" does not actually invalidate any of the info that was given.

>>29295335
They're not. The cloud one turns into the shell one. And stop misusing spoiler tags you faggot.

>>29296712
you have no proof though
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>>29295507
Just like Complete Zygarde being in X and Y, right?

>>29293846
Riddler has been wrong many times, anonchan.

>>29296907
Zygarde is not a baby mythical, anon. Celebi don't got any another form linked to Lugia or Ho-oh, in RS or HGSS, like Marshadow don't will get any form linked to Solgaleo and Lunala.

>>29293608
We have the whole pokedex. Does the tiddler even matter anymore?

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the marshadow hint correlates to a chinese letter rather than the z power. the z power symbol looks like a chinese character. the riddler has mentioned this before.

>>29293805
aristotle is probably just aether?

>>29300198
We have pokemon's sprites, no more.

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>>29300490
No, asshole, is the kanji 全 (zen), means absolute, complete, all, full. Without a doubt, 全 and Z power are linked to Zygarde, even if Marshadow have something special related to Z power

>>29293726
The Z braclet, look at the design. It matches this constellation. Marshadow will have something to do with Z-moves. It will likely be able to use all Z-moves regardless of which move it uses, or depending on which Z-crystal it is holding, it will change it's type, or gain a secondary typing from it.

Dark/???? will be it's type.

>>29302430
I'm going to guess then that Marshadow is well, the shadow of Z-moves.

Marshadow has multiple forms depending on which Z-move it uses. The form is permanent once you use the move.

There, now you know.

>>29295507
to be fair Zygarde doesnt have its other formes in its debut game.

>>29294659
Why isn't the Toucan pic beside Pilkipek?
Why isn't there a question mark beside Crabcrawler?
Why are some Ultrabeasts missing? Why was the weird looking water urchin Pokemon missing? Why is the weird looking ultra beast Pokemon missing?

>>29303960
>Why isn't the Toucan pic beside Pilkipek?
Likely an error on riddler's part or potentially Pikipek is a 2-stage line and toucan doesn't evolve into it.
>Why isn't there a question mark beside Crabcrawler? Why are some Ultrabeasts missing? Why was the weird looking water urchin Pokemon missing? Why is the weird looking ultra beast Pokemon missing?
Because riddler never attempted to spoil the entire dex

>>29303960
He doesn't know everything. He's even made speculation posts that were wrong before. He only posts riddles about stuff he knows.

>>29303960
Because it's likely that he was someone that was working in the art department and saw a bunch of designs and nothing more. So while he knew that Pikipek would be a three stage evo, he didn't know that the Toucan he caught a glimpse of would be it.

Because he probably didn't realize that Yeti Crab was the evo. He probably just got small glimpses of the art and didn't make the connection.

>>29303986
We know it's a three stag family.

But it's the only thing Riddler got wrong. One thing as minor as this is meaningless.

>>29294561
That's a swordfish but yes those were different leaks

>>29300031
You cannot say that. You literally do not know that.

>>29304098
Being fair, he might've not even known that it was a part or Pikipeck's line.

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