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>>29283472
Difficult: Semi-solids with exposure consequences.

Writing for a somewhat practical take on the Pokémon universe with emphasis on domestication as an emergent cultural phenomenon as I do, Pokémon that could (should) destroy property on contact are difficult to place. While some are easy enough to work around, Muk and Magcargo cause problems that, while solvable, are more easily avoided whenever that same nature isn't requisite for their role in the story. They become challenge Pokémon—Just what circumstance gives them a time to shine?—which can be a fun prompt, but also risks becoming a gimmick.

Gonna respond to a comment from last thread about pokeballs and whatnot;

A lot of the miraculous human technology comes down to a single core development: the digitization of matter. It's more advanced in regards for pokemon
>healing
>storage
>capture
than humans
>teleportation pads, an extremely rare and likely extremely expensive technology. Their near-exclusive use by psychics and megacorps might hint at a flaw in their design). This might be related to how the digitization technology first developed, but as far as I'm concerned that's the one major departure from IRL tech, and I've been playing with that detail happily in BSTF. (Person who runs the catalog: Do you think you can add the 'technology' tag to the comments section of BTSF?)

you play a dangerous game during leak season, cge

>>29285508
I fucked up my green. That's what I get for posting as soon as I wake up. Not soon enough to save the other thread, unfortunately.

Nobody posted anything last thread either?

>>29285587
Last thread only lasted 22 hours, but here's the fic recap from it (with the additional thing that was posted from somewhere else):

Mimiga's doggobug jamboree, "The Most Special Doggo of All". SFW
http://archiveofourown.org/works/8282332

Anon's Tsareena fapfic. NSFW (obviously)
http://pastebin.com/dtRHS3W3 (embed)

Snapath's hey, that's me Chapter 2 of his Combee fic, "Outcast of Comb Island". SFW
http://pastebin.com/zA02gyz3 (embed)

I added an extra scene to the end of Big Shoes to Fill Ch.6 (SFW)
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12125737/6/Big-Shoes-to-Fill

An anon copied a chatlog-style (?) story of some mew x mewtwo smut out of some other thread with a cross-board link to trash, but one's trash is another treasure... (NSFW)
http://pastebin.com/FxJXmHgs

TotT: A lot of pokemon have interesting quirks in their dex entries that gives a lot of room to explore. I don't think writers should be afraid to take a concept in a dex entry and run with it, expanding and extrapolating it across a whole range of related subjects. Plenty of pokemon have plenty of stories to be told within those ranges.

Question of my own:

When you plan the 'pokemon side' of pokemon characters, how far do you go? Movesets, abilities, how they've been trained, or do you just wing it as you write?

These threads have been getting archived pretty quickly lately, and that makes me wonder about something: does anyone around here know if the writethread existed during the release of any earlier games, and if so, how did it fare then? I've only been in these threads for less than two months, so I don't know how this thread handled game release hype storms in the past.

Did the writethread just get wiped out and everyone had to wait a while to resume the threads? Or did they all move to another place, such as the IRC channel linked in the OP, to continue their discussions and whatnot?

I have to wonder if that IRC channel could serve as a sort of bunker for us to go to during the SM release so we can keep our discussions and general writefaggotry going strong. I've never been there, though, so I'm not sure how conducive it is to the kind of discussion we have here.

>>29288012
The thread was dead and off the board for a week or so just a few months ago actually. I forget what was going on at the time, but /vpwt/ vanishing into the ether for periods of time isn't unheard of.

It's been a while since I logged into the IRC. Friendly lot of people, but all my memories of it are of a quiet room interspersed with small bursts of chat. And a monstrously long tabletop rulebook. I should get an actual IRC client and log in again...

>>29283472
>missing subject line
>lacking in fanfiction/writing in the text
No wonder why this thread was hard to find

>>29288012
In my experience the IRC is pretty dead, except late-night shitposting which can be fun. It'll make a decent bug-out for us while the thread is impossible to maintain but don't expect much. I haven't been on there since a couple weeks before my laptop shit itself though.

>>29288727
if you just search the index for 'vpwt' you'll find it at least.

>>29288012
>>29289376
The IRC's always around even if the threads go under. Generally it's someone in here (usually Moth) making the threads, and thus deciding when to go on hiatus, although of course we're no sort of absolute authority, just a bunch of regulars hanging out.

>>29287584
Move-sets: In Ocimene, move-sets are only relevant in League play, at the administration's discretion. As portrayed to date, two formats have been seen. One is registered set, which locks in a pokemon to four moves for the course of the competition (C/E 7); this is nearest to canon. Second is discretionary limited, which allows a pokemon to use any techniques, but cannot use more than a limited (naturally normally four) number of different techniques in a battle. Using too many distinct techniques results in disqualification (LL 12).

Abilities: I haven't gone beyond canon, but I have no problem with letting recently-added abilities be more available than the in-game gimmicks permit. Interpretation I hold to the spirit of the concept, since some of them don't really work literally.

Training: Of course I know how they've been raised at least in broad strokes, because that's critical to developing and portraying their personality.

Beyond what you mention:
I typically also record Nature and Characteristic. The latter also requires at least some consideration to IV spread, which I have determined (by various means) for some of my characters, although it is never relevant enough to bring into a story in detailed informative form.

>>29288727
At least it existed. Now you can contribute to the discussion and keep it existing.
I had the title the first time, but deleted/re-posted it because the photograph I got from image search was needlessly huge and because I wanted to improve a sentence's wording and placement. Were there edit, there would be title.
>>29289376
Is there any other way to find it in this mire?

>>29284798
I feel like you should blog about these things. I love your explanations.

>>29287584
Writing PMD, I tend to reference a Pokemon's natural level-up learnset and estimate their level based on how much life and combat experience they'd have built up over the years, and move from there. TMs are a weird subject that I haven't fully figured out how to tackle in-'verse yet, so I leave those alone, and only allow egg moves if the character's father would naturally grant that move.

I think that especially in a PMD setting abilities, natures and characteristics can go great strides to establish a rough character and determine how they would fight; e.g. my protagonist, a Luxio, would be best described as Brave or Adamant, and out of the given characteristics in game, some from both HP ("Loves to eat," "takes plenty of siestas") and Attack ("quick-tempered," "likes to fight") apply to her, meaning that she'd likely be something of a bulky attacker. Not only does this fit the Luxio line pretty well statwise, but it was something I already decided for the character. That said, though, already you might be getting an idea of what she's like without having read a damn word of my story which I still haven't written.

Overall I wouldn't adhere to them exactly, but they can be good guidelines to establish a Pokemon's character if you're the sort of writer or in the sort of setting to give Pokemon a lot of screentime.

>>29287584
Though I haven't written much, I always make little charts that include all the statistical info about my Pokemon characters: gender, level, ability, moves, nature, and characteristic. However, I don't usually explicitly give all those details in the story. The only time I've done so thus far is in Outcast of Comb Island with one scene where the main human uses a device to scan a Pokemon and it clearly displays all that info for the reader to see.

>>29290110
I had hoped that my stories conveyed all that and more.

>>29290110
To be more specific, I have hoped that in long format, a greater impression of my perspective is given than would be by simply telling a brief overview of the situation. For example, my treatment of Dragonite and Flygon in the light post and parcel delivery field; It's more than answering a question like "Which Pokémon could be used to carry mail?" it's forming a metaphor, with Dragonite being powerful and enduring but also rather bulky; Flygon, a specialist that is seen less often but has its niche. I have hoped that their appearances in LL and NGON said more about it than a rhetorical paragraph enumerating "pros and cons" of giving a dragonfly a load of Resident circulars.

But perhaps short essays would be more useful as a resource to others, assuming anyone would be so self-destructive they would look to a no-hits-no-reviews like me for advice on technique. As a blog, however, it would need a platform, and frankly /vpwt/ has already captured much of whatever useful things I might think to say on such matters, up to 2000 characters' worth at a time, at least.

So, stay tuned for more.

Answering my own question:

First, I do tend to stick to the four-move limit even if I don't have an IC justification yet, mostly because my outlook on the use of supernatural powers like that in terms of conflict and tension. Each has movesets that aren't entirely sound from a competitive battling perspective, however, since none of them were trained for that end. Instead they have movesets reflecting their anticipated battling conditions or out-of-battle responsibilities.

I've tried giving the pokemon natures that correspond to their personalities, and I've given them EV spreads depending on their specific training. Their levels represent how intense their training has been. I disregard IVs and when I double-check my fight sequences I set them all to 31.

>>29291840
>no-hits-no-reviews like me
This is entirely a consequence of your publishing style, not your level of skill. The responses you get in this thread alone is enough to show you have a following! Undoubtedly they'd like to hear about your methods. Maybe I should stop hogging all your advice for myself and let you dump it all here instead?

>>29283472
I really like Psychic and Ghost types because its enjoyable to come up with their means of communication. That said, I want to branch out to other Pokemon, but that's likely going to be more case by case than anything else. Something will inevitably catch my eye - Bisharp certainly did, even without the urging of Bisharpanon.

>>29287584
I note down almost nothing about their stats and what not; I only make notes for myself about what they're good at doing based off what they've done with their Trainer and what they did before they met their trainer. Unsurprisingly, neither Viola nor d'Artagnan are very good fighters, while Charles is.

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>>29283472
fite weesl is generally anthropomorphic (can relate in anatomy, easier to paint a picture of) and is one of my favorites, therefore most of the stories that brew in my brain gravitate towards despite me writing tens of thousands of phox. That being said, it's still one of my favorite things to describe the movements and positions of beastly things, especially avian bodies. I probably should have studied to be a biologist.

>Captcha: Select Oranges
Where is Citrusanon anyway?

>>29287584
>When you plan the 'pokemon side' of pokemon characters, how far do you go?
Just wing it. In universe I have the excuse that you're locked to four moves when in battle but the pokemon can have an entire repertoire. abilities only come up when plot demonds it.

TotT:
Truly hard pokemon to write for are the ones that don't have the means to interact with their environment. Probably the best example would be Voltorb/Electrode. What can it really do outside of battle? It's funny to even try to imagine how it would eat.

>>29292495
>you have a following!
It's identified by their torches and pitchforks.

>>29294820
And their near-worshipful comments in the thread
>that one anon who said he was honored you deigned reply to him
It's either extreme, isn't it?

>>29295437
I take it as an indication that there are other authors who are less personable when queried and have created a negative stereotype.

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>>29283472
Easy: Pokemon that are based on and not too different from IRL animals.

These pokemon are often easy-mode because they come with a built-in stereotype that an author may both honor and reverse. This saves on establishment, since you can simply have no establishment and trust that the stereotype will hold until you say otherwise.

Pic related: I was once called on featuring a lot of two things—Psychics and Mareep-line. This amused me especially because my next fic features special doggo and his struggle with and against Psychic-typing and at least one sparkysheep. In the latter case, it's always struck me as the kind of pokemon that has a distinct usefulness in each of its forms, but also one that just isn't good enough to see serious use. It falls into the sweet spot as a pokemon that nobody would feel bad about picking up but also not mind letting go, making it useful in supporting cast roles.

Challenging: Pokemon that are basically anthropomorphic innately. Lucario makes a good example of this because it's human enough to be written like one, such that an author forgets that it's a Pokémon; but its other half, jackal-sorta, isn't familiar enough to really bring a stereotype of its own. Indeed, the lore of its loyalty is borrowed from other more familiar canids. This requires that the pokemon be written very carefully with a focus not on either what features and abilities it shares with humans or how it differs from humans or non-humanoid pokemon, but on how it finds for itself a comfortable place along that spectrum. Doubly so if it's living under domestic conditions.

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>Sees fic
>700 words in 4 chapters
>Finished
how the fuck

>>29300342
I have chapter summaries in my ideabin that are bigger than that. This is truly the work of a madman.

>>29300342
Maybe it's a drabble sort of thing? I hope it is.

>>29300684
No, it was a full ass fic. The description was longer than the actual fic

do people just not care

>>29301126
what fic was it?

>>29301126
Oh. Paradoxically, that actually makes me want to read it now, even though it sounds like it'll be awful.

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Hey I'm that anon from the other day that said lurked to learn(I even saved the pic), but I'm not really sure how to make/start the fic I have in mind. I'll post about it later but not now it's muh big boy bed time

>>29301239
>>29301251
fuck fuck I found it last night, and I'm like 30 pages into this ship tag on AO3. if I find it again, I'll post, I'm so sorry.

but yea. I clicked it. It was TERRIBLE. and I moved on. it was a person who didn't know what the , key is. Everything was a run on. /everything/

>>29301506
>I'm not really sure how to make/start the fic I have in mind.
• Open a text editor.
• Close your eyes.
• Imagine the first interesting thing that happens to your protagonist.
• Type what you see.
• Type what happens next.
• Type until you run out of nexts.
• Save your work.

>>29302637
Is this a preview of a future BSTF Latias/minesweeper Flygon crossover?

assuming you're still planning on crossing them over, I think I remember you saying you were going to do that at one point

>>29302749
>assuming you're still planning on crossing them over
Yeah...
Something like that...

Unrelated: I'm NOT gonna bother planning ahead on my next story because holy fuck I'm feeling that performance pressure I set out on this misadventure specifically to avoid.
I'm probably going to fuck the actual interesting part of BSTF up. RIP

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Keep it down guys it's too loud in here

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>>29182017
Still holding out/anchor posting for this

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Tropes I absolutely hate:
>Trainer OC that is perfect in every way
>Everyone loves the character
>Evil team likes them
>Gets every legendary pokemon
>Perfect and never gets called out for their shitty behavior
>Competent characters are reduced to people telling the main OC how perfect they are

when you just want to read characterizations of a certain character but the tag only has shit in it

>>29307766
>evil team likes them
Don't evil teams usually dislike the main OC that constantly opposes them?

Switch bump

>>29308942
Ever heard about winning the enemy over?

>play the SM demo
>greninja one-shots everything
>"you have so much potential as a trainer"

We have no one but GF to blame for shitty fanfiction

>>29301763
What website would you recommend to write it on? also this fic Is one of two that I'm planning on writing is a romance and I don't want it to be some cheesy bullshit in the end so here's the autism I'm planning on writinga re-write of the XY&Z anime in which chespin is redeemed in a way and he actually gets a lover/waifu or something like that, instead of being the shows "comedy relief" all the time but idk how to start it out or who the special someone should be, that's why I'm asking you an anon's for help

>>29311488
>What website would you recommend to write it on?
I suggest posting on both Fanfiction.net and Archiveofourown.org; the latter is important if you're writing lurid material since FFN can strike you down for mature content while AO3 abides. You may wait a few days/weeks in queue for AO3 access because they throttle applicants.

>>29311488
>that's why I'm asking you an anon's for help
And in the spirit of helping, I will simply point out that judging by how you have written this message, you will benefit if you sharpen your grammatical skills.

>>29311845
>sharpen your grammatical skills

Wrote the whole thing in a hurry I was on break at the time Rn I'm just typing this on the john

>>29307766
What character?

>>29311473
>harimaron
>not acting like a faggot
I think you'll rip a hole in the fabric of reality if you tried to do that.

>>29313580
>>29311473
Jeez, meant to reply to
>>29311488

>>29313594
And? Girratina does it all the time

>>29302831
You're not planning ahead? I hope that doesn't mean you're going to completely wing it and make stuff up as you go along. I find that planning things out beforehand, even if it is just a basic series of plot points, can be helpful.

>>29314565
>You're not planning ahead?
Not for the next story, except the most general stuff like "this is the direction the plot should move in". I'm not giving up on my plans for BSTF. I'm just now living with the anxiety of knowing what I want out of it and being afraid I won't live up to it. The whole point of me writing here is it's supposed to be an anxiety-free writing outlet, and I've boxed myself into a corner on that front.

>>29308942
>>29311090

No, it's more about self-insertion. They liked N or some other person who opposed the main so they make them into a shadow of the actual character who loves them because they're cute

it's why I don't read OC fanfiction for the most part. I'm pretty picky who I read from

>>29312787
The one I just read was about Maxie and Archie both fighting over the godly OC

it was because of their revival in the anime shorts. It was wrongly tagged, too.

>>29314565
Ee4ee is apparently going to have a try at a more cge-ulous approach.

All hope is lost.

>>29314796
I know that feel. That's definitely an understandable cause for concern.

But the way I see it, none of us know what you're planning to do with your story, so none of us will know if it ends up not living up to what you want out of it, and that in turn means we won't dislike it for that. People won't judge your story based on how well it matches what you wanted, but rather on the merit of the finished product.

So don't be anxious. It won't always turn out exactly like you wanted, but as long as it's good in the end, that's really the most important thing.

hopefully that helps, I don't know if that made sense

>>29315477
It's more a problem of "This makes sense in my head, but if I don't execute it well, it won't make sense to the reader."

My next story isn't going to be "wing it", just a different planning style focusing on direction more than hitting specific scenes. Honestly it'd probably make for a smoother story at the cost of pacing and narrative conciseness. That I'm trying to make stories concise might be part of the problem, and I'm a big fan of trial and error, so that will be my next trial.

>>29315003
>All hope is lost
>implying there was any hope to begin with

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There was a crossdressing thread that really got me going so I wrote this. It's not the best, but I like fuccbois and wanted to write cheap smut:

http://pastebin.com/y62NS71Z

Premise: Nate and Hilbert indulge in their favorite fetish by crossdressing as their female friends. It gets pretty gay.

>>29307078
Still here and still working on it on and off.

>>29315946
What do you think is driving the difficulty in becoming more concise in your writing? And for what reason do you want to be more concise?

>>29311488
Was about to answer...
>>29311845
but this guy beat me to it.
Ran afoul of the morality police on FFN myself, had to flee to AO3, it wasn't fun.
That said, if your work is SFW, FFN has the biggest audience and greatest chance for exposure, by far.

>>29317575
Both come down to not being sure what my readers want rather than what I see in the project. Even to this point BSTF has been an exercise in making several bad calls on that front, and I think I'm in the process of doing that RIGHT NOW AS I WRITE THIS CHAPTER.

If you just throw it all in, readers might grow bored quickly, or the story may feel like it's going nowhere. But if you're not doing that, you need to know what to cut, and you might end up cutting things readers would enjoy while leaving in things they wouldn't. In my next story I'm going to try to ignore that concern as much as my pacing 'tisms will allow, and I'll just rely on feedback to tell me what works and what doesn't as I go. Get it from the source, right?

>>29317838
And why did you choose not to answer?

>>29318564
>not being sure what my readers want
Porn?

>>29318703
Look closely, probably had the same answer as the linked post

>>29319147
Well then my retarded ass doesn't read other linked post's,... fug

I like your more concise FAQ, cge. I wrote up the OP a long time ago and I think there was more info I wanted to put in there but couldn't due to the FAQ... but I can't remember what that info was, anymore. Anyway, I think we should maybe switch to using this OP 'cause at the least it gives more room for ToTT and like, whatever else we may see fit to add in the future. Opinions?

Last thread, I posted this:

>I remember something about a human and his Ninetales going on a date to a restaurant. Even though they did wind up fucking afterwards the story put a lot of emphasis on the actual romantic part and was a bit better-composed in general than your average Pokemon/Human "romance" piece.

However, no one seemed to have a link to that fic handy. I'm a few pages deep into a few different Google searches now and I haven't been able to find it yet, so I figured I'd ask again if anyone happens to have it saved somewhere. As far as I remember it was a one- or maybe two-chapter fic on FFN, would be marked complete, but did contain smut so it may have been nuked by now. No inkling on what the title or author might have been; all I can remember are the contents of the fic and that I quite enjoyed reading it.

>900,000 views
>0 satisfaction

A single review used to make my entire month. Now I don't feel anything after getting fifteen.

What happened? Is this normal?

>>29318817
To bad that, as far as my multichapter stories are concerned, they'll have to deal with IMPLIED smut.

>>29319612
>fifteen reviews in a single sitting
>almost a mil viewcount
tell me your secrets
As for your question... why do you write?

>>29318564
I think you need to really put to paper what you personally think should be happening and push what your readers are expecting out of your mind - if you are writing logically, or otherwise building towards some kind of twist, what you produce will naturally fall in line with their expectations or give them a well-constructed surprise.

Feedback is great to work from, but you should have a general idea for the feel of your prose when you begin: are you intending to make this a very dense, analytical piece, something lighter, something more action focused, etc. Being concise, then, is a matter of taking that general feel you have in your head and saying only what is in service to it.

>>29319612
Saturation. Living in So Cal makes every last rainy day a godsend. I'm sure the people of Seattle find rainy days to be anything but.

>>29319762
Fuck you rain is cool as shit here.

>>29319649
>tell me your secrets

Just remember that the average attention span is much too short for regular storytelling, most people have already stopped reading this post.

Your readers have literally a million better things they could be doing so you have to keep them entertained every moment and also sated in the long term. Every sentence should be an interesting/funny hook and at least one major event should take place every 1000 words.

>why do you write?

Because I passively create stories and characters in my head, and the only way to get them out is to write them down. Strange but true, it's such a nice feeling when they leave after bugging me for so long.

>>29314077
I'm sure he'd take offense to someone busting in on his turf.

>>29319762
>what you produce will naturally fall in line
Without devoting paragraphs upon paragraphs to rebuttal; I strenuously disagree with this take. I think it's both (charitably) glossing over the most difficult part of the process, and blind to the fact that readers and writers have fundamentally different perspectives on a work both in-progress and upon completion.

>Being concise, then, is a matter of taking that general feel you have in your head and saying only what is in service to it.
This is what I thought I was doing, and have botched several calls on; going with your instinct on the matter is far from foolproof. The point of the feedback is so I can make a more directed culling of ideas, so I can align my perception with my readers' in what is in service and what isn't.

In BSTF, I am resigned to my anxieties as a result of my process. At the very least it'll be an effective control, since my next project is a trial where I deviate from my usual method. Not only will the feedback be valuable to help calibrate my sense of just what is and isn't necessary, it'll also let me judge reception of the two and see which came out better.

>>29320468
>Because I passively create stories and characters in my head, and the only way to get them out is to write them down
If that were the case I think you'd be satisfied just having the story out there. Why then would views or feedback matter?

>>29320665
>If that were the case I think you'd be satisfied just having the story out there. Why then would views or feedback matter?
This is the first level of satisfaction. However, if that is as far as it goes, you have not given anything to the world.
Feedback is the evidence that you have influenced the world in a way you by no other means can. This offers a second dimension to the work.
There are further dimensions.

>>29320665
Huh, izzat so? Maybe my approach is facilitated by my writing and editing process then, since neither I nor the feedback I receive (during editing or after release) indicates a need to be more concise.

Has feedback corroborated how you feel about how concise you're being?

>>29319844
Which is exactly why I'd want to live in Seattle.

>>29320934
>Has feedback corroborated how you feel about how concise you're being?
It's certainly showed me I'm being concise in the wrong ways. That's why next attempt I'm not going to try. Just write what I feel like writing, and let the feedback sort it out. Who knows, maybe I'll find like you that it simply isn't necessary. But that's the point of feedback in the first place, isn't it?

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Been a while since I've updated huh..?
Haven't had any motivation to write until just recently since the edgy teen came out of me again after being broken up with by my girl of 4 years. But no one wants to hear my issues.
So I made this, it's not finished yet and might keep it going to show my progression through my recent struggles in life tho to be honest I feel I just slapped the idea of pokemon onto it to post it here..
http://pastebin.com/f7RPtDhd
Unedited hell for y'all to cringe over.
ToTT: Not sure, since I don't write of the pokemon themselfs often but in general I have a hard time writing the battles between them not the pokes themselfs.

>>29319456
I took a quick look and if it was tagged with with "ninetales" and rated M, it seems to gone from FFN.

>>29319844
Would you mind sending some of it down here to California, please? We need water. Badly.

>>29320929
That's how it used to be. Now I just don't feel anything.

Strange lessons in language: English has vestigial gendered nouns. Words such as Blond(e) and Confidant(e) can be gender-specific. I blame the French, and you should too.

>>29319612

you've reached your midlife fanfiction crisis, where you come to realize that competing for imaginary internet points brings no longer brings the naive sense of satisfaction and fulfillment it used to

Didn't see one in this thread so reminder that Flash platinum updated

>>29324361
link
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12024240/11/Pokemon-Flash-Platinum

Hey I was in a thread either yesterday or the day before talking about writing a story and I was about to start until I realized I had no idea how to write a battle sequence. So I decided to try writing a rough rough draft of what I am currently think the climax of my story is going to be like. I

It's kind of terrible. Redundant, overlong and missing all sorts of punctuation, grammar, etc.last one was mostly because I decided I didn't care since it was going to be a rough rough draft

It only dawned on me that I should actually just look at how other people write their battle sequences after I had already written this.

Anyway I'd like some feedback on this anyway http://pastebin.com/mnLWemKD

Also can anyone link me a fic with decent battle scenes so I can learn from that?

>>29319649
>why do you write?
Not him but I'd like to answer his question.

I measure my worth as a human being on how many people like what I put on the internet.

And yes I do know that answer is making Hemingway spin in his grave.

>>29325451
Forgot to mention: I left a blank space in place of the MC's name because I haven't quite decided on his name yet

>>29290627
Write it, then link us bruh.

>>29290810
I do the same for my DnD campaigns. I can tell my players about how rich or poor a character was growing up, their relationship to their mother and father, what their favorite color is.

But they never ask about those things...

>>29301506
I copied this from some other person on 4chan.

>Imagine the coolest moment in your fic
Write about that.

>>29325451
>http://pastebin.com/mnLWemKD
It needs more variation in flow and description. To have the whole battle be a robotic sequence of Trainers giving orders and brief descriptions of the subsequent actions gets stale.

Add more descriptions to the battle. Allow the Pokemon a little more latitude to interpret their orders.
Say something about the Pokemon's reactions, the trainers reactions, their feelings.
You can add some mid-battle banter between trainers, some trash talk. Or have internal monologues, the trainer strategizing their next move or stressing out.

I don't think you need to keep saying Mega Gallade every time after it's been introduced.

It's not really overlong, there's a knockout on line 9, and the pace doesn't let up from there. You could afford some more filler.

On the positive side, you have a good sense for description, which leads me to believe you can expand and polish this into an enjoyable action piece.

>>29325925
I used to do the same thing but since it never goes anywhere I've long since stopped. Now I just introduce NPCs that keep popping in and out.

Every so often a player picks up on a random NPC though. Like the young girl the Skald adopted and intends to give a comfortable life and possibly have her trained as a Bard to succeed him.

>>29325997
Thanks for the feedback.
I'll try rewriting it with all that in mind.

The reason I kept the pace up was because I couldn't stop thinking of the Ash-Greninja vs. Mega Sceptile fight from the anime which was crazy fast paced.

In hindsight that was a bad idea.

>>29325925
>Imagine the coolest moment in your fic
>Write about that

That's how I started Ears, actually. I thought about how fucking radical it would be to have some greater good-driven monarch Serperior fighting my MC from PSMD and having an intense clash of ideologies about how society was being run by heroes and teams of individuals. I wrote about a thousand words of a talkative fight scene and decided there an then that this idea was kosher as fuck. Looking back at the .txt now, that overarching narrative kind of fell apart on the split-second epiphany that I could place a much larger role in the antagonist's hands than simply being a revolutionary.

That's good advice. /blog

>>29325507
I'll just point out there are way worse ways to measure your worth.

>>29325451
I'd be interested in this too, since I have a couple upcoming battle scenes to write, and the next story will have more.

>>29325451
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6595319/78/The-Human-Species

Halloween is coming!

can't wait!

>>29327498
Oh son of a bitch I forgot

How am I supposed to plan and make a spook oneshot when there's only ten days left and I'm in a chapter?

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>>29327544
>How am I supposed to plan and make a spook oneshot when there's only ten days left and I'm in a chapter?
exceedingly quickly

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>>29327581
Fuck it I'll do christmas doggo adventure or something. There's enough spooky ghosts and shit in MoM to make up for it probably.

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>>29327622
Will you be done with MoM by Christmas? How long did it take you to write Ears?

I'm still aiming for the end of October to wrap up BSTF, but I think I'll end up going a week or two over.

>>29327646
MoM is hardly even half done, it's my one true shot at making something novel-length before I actually get a life. At least, that's what I agreed with myself. Ears took 3 months I believe, or somewhere around that with bursts of inspiration and work so great that it pretty much skews the whole thing.

>>29327681
Sounds like you could do a Christmas episode of MoM then, eventually. If it wouldn't be out of place in the story by that moment, which it probably would be. If you write it at Ears-pace you'll be setting up for the climax...

Got anything planned for 2017 then? Or are you going to abandon us?

Anyways, it's been a very long while since I wrote something.

Some new smut involving an anthro setting with a Luxray and Mudkip! https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11554771/1/New-Pokemon-Fan-fiction-Lemons

I'm not used to writing with anthros that much, I still need a lot of practice with writing in general honestly so any critiques would be much appreciated!

>>29327723
Are you kidding? It'll be several months still until I get this fucking thing done. Achieving Ears pace hasn't been possible with any other fic I've done ever, chapter 2 I was so enthusiastic about that I didn't even take 2 days to complete the second draft. I work at a pace of 4 pages a day now, as it is enough to be productive but also works with my shitty attention span. Though it's not entirely just me being bad, as I've been slamming my eyes into my keyboard trying to make this shit as good as I possibly can at my current skill.

I dunno. If I end up writing something original and not fanfiction, then it'll sure look that way between one shots.

>>29327799
>between one shots.
I want a specialdoggo x fishdragon one-shot

>>29327830
You're nuts m8. Crossovers are weird, and also Lilith is so completely loyal to the fagdrag that I just can't see anyone successfully seducing her. It's an enticing idea, but I also don't want to touch that part of the franchise at all anymore with exception to the fishdragon, and you can't really have one without the other without son of a bitch I just figured out how I would do it.

>>29327880
>son of a bitch I just figured out how I would do it.
>Figuring out how to do something as you're complaining you don't know how
This happens all the fucking time to me. It's like I'm completely incapable of thought unless I'm trying to talk to/type at someone.

Anyway, half-joking in the first place. Would be cool to see even if not romance just because now I'm super curious about what you've figured out. Especially if it's actually Panne.

>Two legendary magical bullshit creatures in new bodies after twists of fate

bedtime bump

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And now the wonderful process known as editing begins tomorrow because fuck this I need sleep.

>>29328408
Fuck, you beat me to it.

>>29327786
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11554771/1/New-Pokemon-Fan-fiction-Lemons
oh hey I remember these. Didn't you like to appear and disappear for god knows how long at random intervals?
Well, good to see you're alive

Oh hey someone finally delivered on some drasna and Calem romance story. It is a long read and author is planning a rewrite, but it's something
http://pastebin.com/AY5p4MPT

Morning bump

>>29329095
While the Drasna sections were pretty damn good, I'm not sure if the whole cycle talk fits in with the story at hand. Perhaps it would work better if drama did end up being centered around Malva's attempt to claim what is 'hers' and her trying to sabotage the lovers (at least to make it more believable).

>>29327786
kind of an odd pairing for me.
>Watch where you're going, you fool!
Nostalgia vibes from Courage the Cowardly Dog rang into my ears.

Otherwise I think you anchored down angsty teen fine enough. Not very good with critique personally

>>29325925
>Image the coolest moment in your fic

Well that's kind of difficult when it's a shipping fic unless I rethink/redraft what I have so far, and like I said this is 1 of 2 the second one will definitely have more action though. And how would you make chespin not a total piece of shit? And/or "redeem" him?

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>>29333853
Chespin is supposed to be a Dungeons and Dragons Fighter/Paladin. Emphasize about how he has to train and practice, that he gets an "education" above the others, maybe Chespin gets some higher calling or a goal besides "loot Dungeon, get wasted" most DnD parties have.

Actually, give us more details and we can help out more.

>>29334591
Don't judge He would be redeemed in one of several ways but I'm not sure which either his eating habits and falling for every girl is due to hidden depression like dawn, re-writting most of the anime to make him seem like a nicer guy and not a gluttonous fug and the last one doesn't come to mind at the moment

>>29334774
Let us in and hook us up with the partner, that'll give us some crucial info. Now a few things.

>Falling for every girl
Maybe Chespin is just imitating the old man or his trainer. Go the mom route if you want to imitate Hunter X Hunter.

>Overeating
The next Evo is pretty plump. You could just keep that in as a normal fault. If you go the 'being trained' route, Chespin could just be strong man fat.

>The Coolest Moment
Actually, what does the confession scene look like to you? Is there a battle with an enemy team involved? Are they Dungeon diving or at a state dinner or just a cafe and why isn't it taking place in the first two?

I'm pushing bruh, but I think you need it to git motivated.

>>29335076
To come up with the confession scene I need to figure out who I'm going to put him with Fenniken, Sylveon(or eevee), or brionne but I can't decide

>>29335294
My vote goes to brionne

>>29335294
Let's put our scientist goggles on and analyze the situation.

>First
Top tier furry view bait. People tolerate a wide variety of personalities for it. A good, hard 9.

>Second
Much harder to work with, but also decent view bait if you go for a Damsel/Dude in Distress. Easy 7.

>Third
Literally the Vanilla of Pokémon, despite being chocolate and not a Vanilluxe. You can give it any personality you want, but it should be aimed towards an eevolution that helps Chespin at the climax of the story. I'm giving it a 5, just because.

>Fourth
New hotness, which immediately brings it to an 8.it does come with some difficulty, since it can't exactly cross a desert, you know? But having to put your Chespin into stramge waters could work really well.

>>29336809
Listen to this man. He speaks with wisdom
(I'd rate Eevee higher personally just for the evolutionary flexibility.)

>>29334591
He's talking about animu Chespin m8. It's the token comic relief mon.

>>29336809
>Bump

Looks like it comes down to the new girl and the furbait both seem plausible both personality wise an story wise, though people like new things others don't so it's a 50/50 decision here and you did say fenniken is tolerated with multiple diffrent personalities while brionnes personality can be diversed from its pokedex entry so their both good choices and hard to chooce choices

does anyone have a copy of the Yandere Lyra fic?

>>29339313
https://aww.moe/0zle9i.zip

PDF & txt ver

>>29339532
thank

>>29294417
rip to those who died

>>29328750

Yep, that explains me perfectly. Coming and going with no indication of being alive or dead!

Bump?

>>29319338
An addition to FAQ worth consideration:
>Names and tripcodes? Authors are encouraged. Too many Anons makes discussing their stories difficult.

Emergency resuscitation bump

>>29325925
>Write it, then link us bruh.
Workin' on it, my man. I'm just now starting to actually plan out the beginnings of the story, and with any luck I'll be able to write the story soon.

>>29327498
I thought you quit writing under that pseudonym. Interesting to see you back, I guess?

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>>29347599
Did somebody say bees?

>>29347599
busy buzzy bee bee

>>29347707
Mimiga knows what's hip doesn't he?

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>>29283472

>Some Pokémon are popular and others not, but as a writer, which Pokémon are easy or difficult to write for? Which do you avoid or gravitate toward, and why? (Argue for/against others' picks for additional bumps.)

In general, I tend to have an easier time with Pokémon that are more open-and-shut "creatures", since it's much easier to get into detail about them and the way they operate without sounding silly. Pokémon that stray further from that mold, I generally have to put quite a bit of thought in advance into how to depict them while seeming a plausible on official depictions but not contrived (hence why I probably won't be rushing out the gate to make a Mimikyu a major character in my writing).

Speaking about my writing, I finally have another update:

FFN:
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11084689/1/Fledglings

AO3:
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/3465593/chapters/19117777

>>29345688

I have for the most part. But I'll always be known as Vulpsis to many, especially here where I started like 4 years ago.

So I'm working on a longish smutfic, it's up to 18k words at the moment. It's one single session/scene, divided into segments based on actions (framed as one character giving the other "lessons").
What I'm wondering is if people prefer separate chapters for each segment. It's all the same scene, but it's so long a single long scroll of text might be off-putting? Feedback?

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>>29348939
Mimikyu is so cute as a concept, but in writing I feel like it almost demands a creepy/disturbing portrayal.

>>29349189
Might be a good idea to separate them via chapters wherever you feel they are needed

>>29349189
18000 words sounds like to me like it's too long to keep in one piece. And seeing as the story is apparently already made up of multiple sections/segments, it would probably be best to divide it up into chapters, since it seems to have already been written in a way conducive to that.

>>29349208
Part of the problem is that once you think about it, it's an abuse victim. Completely pretends to be something they are not for love, but they lash out (curse you) if you start prying.

It might be the end goal of an entire fic to get it to trust you enough to show you what it really looks like.

>>29349998
and underneath that doll lies...another doll

>>29350443
And said doll is smaller and looks like a Pichu. I've seen a fan art that depicts that scenario but I don't have it on me to link it here right now.

>>29349208
Maybe it's just a cute little pokemon, that everyone is creeped out by, but in reality, he just needs a friend. Like Phantump

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>>29350443
>>29351290

>>29355193
Yeah, that's the one

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Cute story about a male Ribombee accidently wandering into Vespiquen territory and becoming her favorite qt bee and jealous bee hive shenanigans when?

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Au Coup Par Coup: Shit's Getting Weird As Fuck 4 is (finally) live.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12009986/4/Au-Coup-Par-Coup
http://archiveofourown.org/works/7262536/chapters/19126117

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bump of infinite bees

>>29358490
Blogshit:

These past few weeks have been terrible. I've never been more scared in my life. Though I don't have time to read right now, your release has given me something to look forward to in the midst of all this.

Glad to see you working hard, fellow writefriend.

>>29359726
Jesus anon, I hope things work out well for you. Living in perpetual fear sucks shit man.

Does anyone actually write anything other than smut here?

>>29360233
I'd say 70-90% of content posted here by writers is non-smut.

>>29357631
Who did that mothim x vespiquen fic? Are they still around?

>>29361102
Mimiga did, and yes, he's still reminding everyone to cherish.

>>29360315
>>29360233
>I'd say 70-90% of content posted here by writers is non-smut.
Reversing that,
10%–30%: Requested smut that gets read.
And assuming all things other are equal,
10%–30%: Posted not-smut that gets read.
40%–80%: Not smut that gets ignored forever.

>>29360099
Having someone threaten bodily harm and then try to sue you for money you don't owe feels like a fate worse than death. But I'm sure Ignace will know a fate worse than death soon, with all the spoopy things going on.

>>29362584
It's gonna get right proper spoopy son. I'm also coming to realize how much shit I have to work through for this story. At least the long line of hints about Ignace's past have begun.

What the actual fuck anon, that's some fucked up shit. Hope none of that shit goes through, no one needs a lawsuit any more than they need a hole in their head.

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Do you write humans with their own set of type vulnerabilities? Fire type abilities seem far more threatening than a water or grass type attack for example.

>>29366200
I'm not so sure water and grass are anything to scoff at. Attacks like Razor Leaf, Leaf Blade, Razor Shell, and Scald sound like they could mess you up. Of course, fire would do more damage quicker, but getting sliced up by blades or doused in boiling water would still ruin your day.

>>29366200
Humans are punchbags in Pokemon. Can't do shit, but they can take one hell of a beating.

>>29363181
Just finished reading it in time for bed. Charles being cute has brightened up this glum evening. I look forward to your next installment, whether it be Viridian or ACPC.

midnight bump

>>29369883
We are the things that go bump in the night.

>>29367714
Considering it's canon to the games that a Team Rocket Grunt (assumedly a fairly standard fella, criminal demeanor notwithstanding) can take a Hyper Beam to the face from the Dragonite belonging to one of the strongest Trainers in the region and not even fall unconscious, yeah, I think humans are made of pretty tough stuff. To be fair, you'd have to be to even think about taming any sort of Pokemon at any point in humanity's history. When our boring, squishy version of man tamed the wolf, the worst it could do was bite us. Our wolves don't shoot laser beams or fire or pulses of evil thoughts. We had it easy.

>>29371333
>Our wolves don't shoot laser beams
Trips confirm: The time has come for science to go too far.

>>29371333
>Considering it's canon to the games that a Team Rocket Grunt (assumedly a fairly standard fella, criminal demeanor notwithstanding) can take a Hyper Beam to the face from the Dragonite belonging to one of the strongest Trainers in the region and not even fall unconscious

It's canon the same way random people on the street stand in the same place forever and only say one static bit of text.
It's not something I'd take at face value. If even a champion's Pokémon is that much of a non-threat, Pokémon are irrelevant to any serious conflict and the games' talk about walking into the tall grass without a Pokémon to protect you is hot air. That would be a significantly less interesting world.

I'd interpret the scene you mentioned as it being a warning shot at the ground next to the grunt.

>>29371333

the video games to me are an approximation of the "real" pokemon world the way Grand Theft Auto is an approximation of the world we actually live in. yes, the basic details are there but it's exaggerated and focused for the sake of entertainment and convenience.

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>>29360233
I'm actually writing a comfy fic about a boy trying to care a for an egg. 20 pages in so far.
I'm not a good writer though, but this is fun.

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I may not have accomplished any writing today, but at least I made a custom 3DS special doggo theme instead. Two days until new chapter for Docs, about.

>>29373685
Looking forward to it anon.

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>>29373685
Learning by doing?

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>>29376623
The best way to learn.

>>29374218
you'd think by now Panne could call on her legendary friends like Mewtwo or Giratina or something and be like "hey my partner has his memories all messed up can you help me look into that", and if their powers couldn't help they could probably at least track down baddie spiritomb or something

>>29379382
But that would short circuit the intended plot development.

>>29379574

panne being a helpless baby when the solutions are right in front of her should not be an intended plot development

>>29381739
>tech support latias
does the lack of thumbs cause problems

>>29383065
Keyboards are easy with psychic abilities, it's the touch screens that aren't psychic type friendly.

>>29380759
Theoretically, but some stories get away with it.

>>29381739
>>29383184
Pocky works as a stylus? I wasted money buying ones that I can't eat.

>>29383184
>>29383065
I'm more curious about how she's holding the pocky packet. Is it taped to her forearm for easy snacking?

>>29384482
Pockypaws is one of those diseases you just have to make the most of.

>>29384622
>you gotta help me man, my paws won't stop producing chocolate dipped biscuit sticks
>yeah packaging and all

>>29384846
You can surgically remove the packaging, but then the paw just drips a chocolate ooze until the packaging grows back

>>29379382
>Implying major legendaries want friends
>Implying it wouldn't take longer to track those little fags in their caves than it would a surprisingly apathetic Hydreigon

>>29385036

Well somehow the player manages to bring them along on missions in PSMD. I assume that they either can be contacted via long distance telepathy/dream speak or that they're given a Rescue Badge that lights up like the Batsignal any time their presence is seriously needed.

Also it probably wouldn't be that hard to find Hydreigon, he's probably still hanging out near Post Town if GTI is any indication. Hopefully the town finds out that Panne/Vallion are at least partially responsible for the deaths of their champions and they get a dramatic fight to deal with

>>29385578
The Voice of Life goes where he pleases, which is probably why he shows up in Lively Town a lot and speaks entirely through the fourth wall unless there are some REALLY FUCKY memes going on and the protag of 4 is the same person as 3

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>>29385722

i'm going by the assumption that when hydreigon is shocked that you don't remember him in PSMD this is niantic throwing in some bullshit fanservice and not really canon to the lore

also the voice of life clearly does not always go where he pleases considering he was hunted down by a frigging munna and her henchmen for half of GTI

>>29381739

where is friggin latios in this whole story I mean her relationship with her brother is like one of latias's trademark features (if not THE defining feature) and I don't think he's even been mentioned

>>29386849
>niantic
Chunsoft
I think it's mentioned that Hydreigon was supposed to leave his physical form at some point in the future, but just decided to put it off at the end of Gates.

>BSTF
In chapter 5 Latias claims she lived in a flock alongside others of her kind, including Latios, which are the same species from their perspective. So Latias is not unique or a specific one from canon.

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>>29283472
/r/ing a NSFW fic where the gen 7 beauty class trainer doesn't have any money to pay when she loses to the MC, & has to find a more "creative solution"

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>>29386849
>>29387103
Anon beat me to it.

>So Latias is not unique or a specific one from canon.
This is correct. Both the game and the anime indicate they're not unique, I decided to create one not connected to any existing media.

>>29387284
>I left the picture in

>>29383184
>>29383717
I've been thinking about how Latias' claws work. I figure they could be like a pamprodactyl setup where the outer digits could be selectively opposable, but her wrist/forearm structure limits their range of motion. She could grab things without a properly opposable digit, she'd just be very clumsy.

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>>29387705
Looking at official art such as pic related, I'm not even sure Latias would be able to pick anything up realistically. She doesn't seem to have a wrist joint or proper fingers, and even if one of her claws can oppose the others like a thumb, they don't seem able to bend or curl like fingers to grasp anything, and they're also really stubby. Based on the official art, she wouldn't be able to hold anything without hugging it to her body or something.

But even so, in a case like this, I'd imagine some creative license and deviation from canon depictions would be acceptable if the story requires Latias to handle things with her hands. You might be able to just give her an opposable thumb, then handwave the rest and simply say "she's able to hold things, deal with it" without really focusing on the details.

I'm open to taking requests. send me anything

>>29388165
>>29357631
if you're into lewd, some /ss/ can do too between him and Vespiquen

>>29388165
Write up a cook book on how to cook pokemon.
I want to do this myself but it would be better if someone else did.

>>29387705
That's pretty close to the allowances I've made in a blanket fashion for pokemon with anthropic-enough form that it makes sense for them to have at least marginal dexterity, if an excuse can be found. [omitted: a partial elaboration on my personal working theory on how Pokémon function.]

From the writing perspective, it's cheaper to spend some suspension of disbelief to let a Pokemon have pseudo-thumb than to go to great lengths trying to work around it. Your reader would rather let Lucario eat a chocolate bar than see it denied because of paw science applied to a cartoon character.

>>29388277
I feel like the more interesting part of this procedure is how you, a fragile, wimpy human, plan to butcher a Tauros.

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>>29388165
A come up once story between Calem and that elite four bitch Malva.

Details at http://pastebin.com/UxA1tFR3

>>29388165

This please >>29387111

>>29388306
At range, with a hunting rifle. Bet Tauros jerky is pretty tasty.

>>29388277
There was a thread months ago talking about people eating pokemon where I made a short drabble on how to prepare Reuniclus organelles. It was fun. You can use the rest of the body for gelatin.

>>29388469
care to share the short drabble here? Not him, but I am curious

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>>29387111
>>29388404
Do you care about the battle at all, or do you want to get straight into the smashing?

>>29388607
>straight into the smashing
straight into the smashing

>>29388296
Never feed a doggo chocolate. They get hyper.

>>29388607
Could you just do the final turn off the fight? Thanks anon

>>29388540
Here, I had to recreate it but I can just add to this if I ever get bored: http://pastebin.com/khWxtPPZ

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>>29388639
Forgot my trip

I mean, that's what it is. I was thinking more of male trainer (who I am going to call Ruby because I suck at names) making her get on her knees and just start servicing him, and it ends with him inside her idk and then after he's like "we should battle again some other time"

>>29388695
Damn, now I want a link to the archived thread just to compile them all like this.
Tasty

>>29388969
I tried to find it but I can't remember the thread title nor the exact text I wrote up so I can't help you there sadly. It was a pretty fun thread though.

bump for
>tfw your most recent notes make no sense and you have to try and bring them back around

>>29388607
Thirding this request

>tfw you remember that "action" does not mean walking and talking

I had to scrap 2.5 of the 5 pages I've written so far because I realized they're dumb. Now chapter 1 begins right on the cusp of conflict (what people mean when they use the word "action"). it's fun writing about little girls being mauled by wild floatzel

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>>29390688
>little girls being mauled by wild floatzel

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I have three totally different versions of this scene in my notes why did I do this to myself

>>29392648
how many different ways can you write latias blowing a raspberry though

what seems to be the problem?

>>29388306
Get another pokemon to take it down
>>29388695
Yesss more pls

>>29392775
tl;dr: each of the three different versions don't make sense for exactly one reason (different between them all) and I'm trying to cut out the good bits and put it all together again.

It's less that I can't find a way through and more I'm complaining about having to put in the effort. Made for a decent bump at least?

just like this post

>>29390688
You have my attention

>>29393620
>I'm trying to cut out the good bits
Interesting strategy.
>and put it all together again
…so that it may be exposed to an electrical storm and brought back to life.
You're writing…Frankenscene!

>>29395682
Made me laugh at 6 am

Wow this chapter is probably going to be bad or something. It's so heavily focused on inner dialogue and chunky paragraphs that there's no way it'll go right for the first few days.

Late tomorrow

>>29396546
I find inner dialogue tricky, because it always seems like something better expressed in an actual conversation with another character.

>>29396546
>>29396609
Be mindful of POV and whether or not you're writing inner dialogue or inner monologue.

>>29396735
What's the difference? To me, both seem a bit dry. Inner "speech" always reads like a cop-out to proper interaction.

>>29396752
Inner monologue is traditionally the "voice in your head."
Inner dialogue I would assume is roughly the act of arguing with it. A quick search shows such a term being used in two contexts. One is psychological theory, and another is apparently self-help marketing fodder.

My point in noting a distinction here is that if you're writing internal monologue, you're mostly Telling what POV is thinking instead of showing how what POV is thinking affects the ABC's of showing†. If you're writing internal dialogue, you're either trying to portray POV's decision process, creating an artificial discussion to support awkward establishment (>>29396609), or stalling for time and filling space.

† I just made this up, but:
A: Actions show what a character believes needs to be changed to further its goals.
B: Behaviors show what the character has concluded after evaluating its environment or circumstance.
C: Choices show how and when the character's mindset is similar to or different from that of the reader.
D: Dialogue shows how and when the characters' mindsets are similar to or different from each other's.
E: Establishment shows, when done well, what the environment should look like in the reader's imagination. (Done poorly, it tells the reader what to imagine.)
(Because Forcing particular development is generally bad, I'll stop enumerating here. Also, got things to do today more important than this exercise.)

>>29388695
Looks delicious actually

>>29392866
At some point I'll add to it. Still deciding on what to "cook".

>>29398067
Sounds like it'd be an okay addition to menudo actually, but it'd have to be added when the entire soup is almost done.

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Bumpu

>>29395682
>You're writing…Frankenscene!
"It's Frahnkenscteene!"

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I've been away for a while (pretend I didn't just post in this very thread the other day), so I'd been behind on the catalog. But no longer! The catalog has been updated - apologies and gratitude to all you authors like Ee4ee, Mimiga and Traipsingexodus who've had to wait so long for me to get off my ass and do my job.

In addition, the catalog now has a separate section for greentext fics in order to not clog up the rest of the catalog. Anons: feel free to submit pastebinned greentext to the catalog in the future, now that there's a proper place for them to go.

>>29401929

Pokémon you've on your mind.
Some fan-fiction, hope to find.
Checking websites everywhere,
F-F-N, too, if you dare.

Ash fics, they are a-brimmin',
O-C's, in them you're swimmin',
— Every blurb you read,
— None of this stuff you need.

Now,
—if you're sad,
And need a fic that's not too bad,
Something that's like what's in your head,
Ask in the write thread.
Doesn't matter if it's a romp,
Or it's porn featuring no pomp,
—Like I said,
Ask in the write thread.

Whole new regions to explore, it's sure fun.
Rather humans living as Pokémon? Myst'ry Dungeon!

Come, let's mix where cranky critics
Beat newbies upside their heads with grammar sticks.
Get your reading fix.

Hard-core cuddling is not too garish,
When you've got a Fennekin to cherish.
(NEVER PERISH!)

Everything in the roster read,
Your hunger for Pokéfiction will be fed.
In the writing thread…

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>>29403696
Huh. That's pretty good actually.
All in favor of this being the writethread theme song say aye.

>>29388639
bump for this story

>>29402520
Oh good you're alive. Now I can keep shoving the submit catalog stuff to people's faces

>>29406130
I'm always here, I'm just lazy and forgetful (a dangerous mix). This is probably the biggest update I've slacked on in memory, but in the future if someone notices 'hey the submission queue's really stacking up' feel free to come in the IRC and yell at me.

while ee4ee's been off turning Latias in a rodeo clown and mimiga's been fantasizing about hyperactive furry demonspawn who break the ears of their owners I found a few more quality fics being currently updated:

Alternative Being (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8139476/1/Alternative-Being)- guy gets in accident, is transformed into a Lucario, goes off on an adventure to get some answers. not PMD related. good characters and detailed use of the lore makes it work despite the kinda generic plot setup

Some Rise By Sin (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9990481/1/some-rise-by-sin)- high quality grimfic. team rocket's taken over the world and most everything's gone to shit, in this chaos one girl decided to be a trainer of a forbidden dark type and tries to go on a journey without being kidnapped or maimed. I like the writing and dialogue in this story a lot, it has some lore I'm not a fan of but that's really a minor complaint

>>29407450
>ee4ee's been off turning Latias in a rodeo clown
>mimiga's been fantasizing about hyperactive furry demonspawn who break the ears of their owners
...I didn't know about this. Apparently I haven't been paying enough attention to this thread.

>>29407450
I've been fantasizing of not writing a shitty chapter, but dreams sometimes don't come true. I'm contemplating now whether to just upload the fucker in docs and proofread it while other people are reading, cuz this shit is super slow while I'm sick and can't concentrate.

>>29407535
That might be a good idea. Getting some other people's opinions and thoughts on it could help when you feel yourself not making any progress.
I'm in a similar situation right now, actually. I've got a chapter of my own story that I've been proofreading for the last week, and I still feel bad about how it looks, but I'm thinking I'll just say screw it and publish it so I can (hopefully) end up with some other people perusing it and offering input.

>>29407644
It just feels like such a cop-out, you know? It's like you're presenting shitty writing on purpose because you're too lazy to proofread it right, but that's technically not the case at all. Like, I'm changing things around, and things are surely getting better, but it's going to take fucking eons at this rate and the illness is just going to get more distracting as time goes on.

>>29407743
>mysterious debilitating illness impedes you when trying to chill out and enjoy yourself
Rev up that ginger tea

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Can someone direct me to a fic that's not in first person? Doesn't matter what it's about, lewd or not, just trying to check something on wording.

>>29407805
>Tea
>Implying leaf water can fix the fact that only one of my nostrils is clogged at any time
>Implying I'm chilling out and not fucking physically tackling this proofreading like my life depended on it

I only wanna die a little bit

>>29407839
Would it not be easier to ask about the grammar in question?

>>29407743
I'm hardly an expert in this whole creative writing field, but I hesitate to call it a cop out as long as the writing is not actually shitty when you present it. It doesn't need to be perfect, but like you say, it's bad to knowingly show off something that's unfinished to the point of being chock full of errors. So I believe you should proofread by yourself at first and then collaborate with others as a later stage once you've gotten rid of most of the errors and brought it to an acceptable and presentable level. But that's just how I see it.

>>29407884
I was just referencing MoM my dude

Plenty of tea, especially green tea and other herbal blends, -can- help with a bad cold, though. I just got over one recently using nothing but cough drops and lots and lots of tea. I only had plain green tea, but I think ginger would help clear your sinuses quite well. You can also get candied ginger, slice some fresh ginger into your meals (works great in stir fry), or even just buy some dark ginger ale (made with a higher concentration of the root) if you prefer. It's good stuff.

>>29407895
Not exactly because I wouldn't know how to ask what I'm looking for. So looking at examples help. But to be more specific I'll try. I'm looking for atmosphere and dialog.

Dialog: Two of the main characters are are male and I feel like using "he said" and "the boy with the glasses" is getting repetative and also confusing on who is speaking abd acting. I tried using other descriptors but don't want it to go purple-prose.

Atmosphere: Just want to see what others describe and how often in their fics when it comes to the enviorment and feeling of the scene. I'm running out of creative juice to describe whats happening around a small town or what's going on in the woods.

>>29408087
http://archiveofourown.org/works/7957933

The entire first half or so of chapter one is purely two dudes talking, maybe this'll help you.

>>29408272
Thanks, this'll do.

>>29408087
Dialogue: Names help. Aside from that, while lots of tagging is a necessity with more than two characters, when you have two, focus on the roles they play.

For example, in Eternally Vernal Chapter 4, dialogue makes up a long sequence between Anthony and Carol. Tagging is sparse; guestimating usually three to five lines of untagged dialogue between tags, typically as part of a gesture or other minor action. This is because their conversational roles are themselves tags, with Carol setting the tempo and Anthony playing the tune.

Pro tip: If the characters don't sound different enough for the reader to tell them apart (aside from terse comments), then your problem is bigger than dialog tags.

Aside from establishment, atmosphere would be something to show when your POV character notices it. If your characters aren't experiencing it, then you're telling your cool idea instead of making the best use of it.

>>29408421
This makes sense, especially the personalities themselves being the tag. Good advice, thank ya.

>>29407496

did you know that irl fennec foxes have hobbies such as running in circles for no reason, digging holes and antagonizing animals much larger than themselves

clearly if mimiga based Panne off them as much as we're lead to believe there's a lot to her personality yet to be revealed

>>29408499
I'm pretty sure I've made it quite clear that Panne enjoys antagonizing animals and spooky ghosts of all shapes and sizes

>>29408532

listening to these buggers on youtube made me wonder what it would be like for the first untransformed human to stumble across a PMD village

would probably be a continuous deafening cacophany of barks and hissing and squacking that gradually drives them into madness

>>29408630
It'd just sound like the inside of a menagerie wouldn't it? Shouldn't be too awful I think. Unless you know, some of the sounds are particularly ear-wrenching.

>>29408630
So it's like being around wildlife.

>>29408499
>hobbies such as running in circles for no reason, digging holes and antagonizing animals much larger than themselves
Reminds me of my sister.

>>29408532
This is a bit of a random question, but out of curiosity, is Panne in your story named after that character from Fire Emblem? Or is she just named after the fabric called panne?

>>29408675

except irl wildlife aren't crowded in a giant clusterfuck environment and don't communicate nearly as much

it would probably be more like a zoo crammed into a quarter of the space and with twice as much noise on top of that

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>>29408685
That is a decently long story that involves explaining an extra-dimensional eldritch spiritual planeswalker character I created who is dubbed Zimbabwe.

Basically yeah, she's named after the Fire Emblem one.

>>29408793
Oh, I see. It all makes sense now.

Yeah okay maybe I'm going to take it easy on this one and finish the proof later. You're probably supposed to be able to look through more than just a thousand words an hour.

>>29408871
They might be vastly differing characters, but long story short I liked the name and I was 80% sure I was going to wife the Fennekin partner upon starting my game of PSMD. Taguel are fucking radical and it makes my degeneracy unhappy that most of the beast races in the FE franchise aren't actually beast races. They are at least much more animalistic in their human form than the others.

>>29409297
>You're probably supposed to be able to look through more than just a thousand words an hour.
Text to voice it, take notes, then make the changes and run again. Less eye strain and you'll catch more errors by ear than you will by reading with less than complete concentration.

>>29410428
>"So this trainer came in last week, wanted to handle all of the Bug-types. Turns out he's got some kink thing about molestin' their antennas' doodly boopers. Ran 'im off after the third one, but now the bugs he was fondlin' won't go 'round nobody 'less they gots tube socks on 'em so they don't get all groped again."
Bug-types. Not for fondling. It makes them weirder.

>>29411877
I'm now imagining a bunch of Bug-type Pokemon walking around with socks on their heads and it's cuter than it should be

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Y'all need to write more Mystery Dungeon related things.

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>>29414351
I ain't no pussy bitch, give me a little while

And also PMD is apparently a hard thing for some people to process. It's too common for people to get caught in a "main character and partner" mentality when there's an entire fucking planet of fleshed characters and concepts to splooge all over.

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>>29414406
I like what Fledglings has done. Switching out the usual amnesiac has been pretty engaging. In general, MD lends itself well to DnD style shenanigans.

Maybe I'll give some stuff a shot during free time.

>>29414451
As specifically a Mystery Dungeon franchise, there's a lot of dank chaos magic memes that are not explained in-universe simply because that is the most basic concept which cannot be questioned. In a story you can fuck with it just fine, but it stands that zones where shit is just fucked and unpredictable occur as a regular part of the world. There is a lot of potential in there that, as far as I know (which is nothing), hasn't been touched upon to its fullest yet.

>>29414499
There was one cool fic that someone here linked me, with a Cubone MC. In it Mystery Dungeons made Pokémon go crazy, but as if they were on drugs. Ill prepared ones would end up like junkies. I liked the twist in the last chapter of it.

The way Super had it set, that you have to recruit through the orb, actually makes me think that the Pokémon you meet in the Dungeons aren't real. Like in Final Fantasy X, they are just spectral energy that imprints from your subconscious, that is why you can't recruit them anymore. And why I don't feel bad about becoming a road construction service and Hyper Beam-ing everything.

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And a picture.

Good night. Dream of writing and bumping.

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IDEA: Somewhat of an Academy Life inspired setting focused on a relationship between these three as friends/roommates.

Roxanne's class president duties limit her schedule more and more, Jasmine's narcoleptic behavior becomes somewhat of a liability for the other two (keeps missing study groups, etc.,) and Candice's perky, energetic behavior starts to crack when the guy she's been crushing on (Volkner) falls for Jasmine instead

Sleepybump

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>>29410428
>>29411877
Seeing this gave me an idea for the thread. Post a pic, then someone writes a greentext based off of it. Something to keep the thread going.

>>29415346
>going
This thread is soon going to the great beyond. A big hand for all the bumpin' bumpers who keep it alive and made me look good as a thread instigator.

>greentext
Once in a while works, but as a theme it will make the thread look spammy. Consecutive greentext story posts are no less troublesome when they are from assorted authors.

Post a pic, write a fledged fic based off of it, link to pastebin. That's the /vpwt/ way.

Is there a point to bumping a thread this close to bump limit?

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>>29416842
Never give up until the very end.

>>29415599
>Post a pic, write a fledged fic based off of it, link to pastebin. That's the /vpwt/ way.
"Annabelle," one of the fics in the catalog, is supposedly an example of that. And a good one, at that. The author notes that it was inspired by a single picture of a Lopunny holding a shotgun.

>>29414351
I'm workin on it man give me time

>>29416842
Still waiting for orange anon

>>29419875
F

>>29418863
It was indeed. It was pretty fun to spin a story out of the image. I'm glad cge said I should write something about if instead of just saying something should be written about it.

Contents Under Pressure was the same thing; someone asked for a story about a Misdreavus stuck in a bottle, provided an image and I liked it so: voila, prose.

I've failed to get a chapter out this thread as well. Being over a friend's place all weekend is not good for concentration. It's ALMOST DONE though! I figured out how to get passed the weirdness of the scene implementation I was leaning most towards, and it allows me to bridge into another scene from the same notes I was trying to jam in there too. Feels good.

Sometimes you wake realize your complex problem has a really simple solution. Even just a single line of dialogue.

On the way to page 1:
>>29421429

new thread
>>29421441

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>>29421437
>>29421450
Choices choices....I pick cge's thread because it has a better picture.

>>29421437
...how?

>>29421437
>>29421450
Literally within a minute of each other. 10/10