Ash Greninja BST from the demo

No shit

>>29249681
>145 Atk
>154 SPAtk
>130 Spd
72 HP
67 Def
71 SDef

639 BST

Holy SHIT

>>29249681
Welcome to 12 hours ago

>>29249748
>>29249681
Do we also know the stats of other mons? Like Lycanroc

first off, no shit, this has been known since the demo came out. it was the first piece of info we got, actually.

second, why the fuck wouldnt it be? it's literally a better forme of a mon already in ubers.

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>>29249681
Pic related is you OP. And its speed is 132 not 130.

>>29249776
No, they scrubbed the stats on everything except those used directly in the demo

>>29249776
No any mon that wasn't in battle in the demo had their stats scrubbed for Pikachu's if I remember right.

>>29249781
I just woke up.

But what about Battle Bond? It needs to kill a mon first. And he doesnt have protean anymore.

>>29249814
He got pretty close for having calculated them

>>29249820
But you can fight them, they have stats, literally.

>>29249874
I said except
Unless you mean Rockruff rather than Lycanroc

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>Hardy

>>29249913
Can't you evolve Rockruff?

>>29249848
With the stat boosts it has, non-stab moves do about like 2% less damage, and stab moves do like 10-20% more.
Further, it boosts Water Shuriken, making it at minimum a 50 priority move, and at maximum a 125 priority move, that breaks subs and sturdy either way.

>>29249982
No, evolutions are disabled, much like how they removed the level up moveset in the ORAS demo

>>29249681
why is this a thread? Did you really think an ALREADY UBER mon would be less powerful with a form change? fuckhead

>>29249681
Greninja is already uber. Showdown would never make a complex ban to allow ash greninja in OU

>>29249913
What are Rockruff stats?

>>29250048
it's Uber in the current gen.
They can't apply old bans, it makes no sense for stuff like Aegislash to be banned now if it has a counter.

>>29250022
>>29250048
Why are you saying "already uber" when it's a different gen? Greninja will require a new suspect test in the new meta.

>>29250115
well
it'll be OU when Gen VII drops
so we'll enjoy Ash Ninja for like a month

>>29250179
So OP was right.

Does anyone else have hope that you can breed him? I don't like how he's nature locked. How am I supposed to feel like a special snowflake?

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>>29249776
This is all we have. Defense stats were most likely lowered to make the demo easier.

>>29250342
>special snowflake
>all same species look identical or for the most part

We are all clones.

Did no one else notice that Water Shuriken was switched to Special? Is Earthquake next?

>>29249988
I think you have it wrong, doesn't it get buffed by 33%?

so it's only 40BP priority move, and at max 100BP priority

>>29250359
>pikipek has the same attack and speed as a middle pseudo

Defend this.

Water-shuriken A-Greninja is bullshit tier if you have luck.

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mew: 120-142 (29.7 - 35.1%)

252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Water Shuriken (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 96-116 (23.7 - 28.7%)
this is if you have shit luck. Most of the time -

252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Water Shuriken (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 144-174 (35.6 - 43%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

However, Talonflame is still the strongest Priority unless you hit 4 times.


252 Atk Sharp Beak Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mew: 171-202 (42.3 - 50%) --

252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Water Shuriken (4 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 192-232 (47.5 - 57.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

at 5hits it's almost 80%.

>>29250359
Great, Rockruff is basically Riolu.

>>29250359
Can someone dump the box/party icons/sprites?

>>29250578
you're forgetting that it can run Special, Physical or Mixed, and also doesn't have to rely on priority

>>29250115
>>29250154
Why would I use something like greninja if the bans are reset lol? I can use gene or deo-A. Strong pokes without gimmick moxie

Is it locked in to Hardy? Serebii says its nature is random but I'm having no luck

>>29251243
that will be banned sooner

>>29250453

People have said it's 25 BP for 50-125 with 79 average.