>Framerate drops everywhere on o3DS

>>29234942
>It's going to be fine on the o3ds

I didn't notice any problems

o3DS = old 3DS? Since i have no frame rate drops on my new 3DS XL

>>29234942
that was just the demo. Surely the huge celadon city equivalent will be optimized!

>>29234971
I had some during the totem fight, when I had two Pokemon in front of me.

>>29234972
Yes, it runs like shit as soon as there's more than 2 pokemon on the screen and playing at all turns your 3DS into a radiator.

I'll need to see how it runs on the N3DS when it releases in a few hours.

>>29234972
Old/original whatever you prefer.

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>>29234942
>>29235024

O-oh...


Now I'm worried.

>>29234942
>I bought my first game this summer guys I'm a veteran

>>29235024
Its no different. On the new 3ds the framerate drops as soon as theres more then two pokemon.
Also the framerate dies when using the pokefinder to take photos

>>29235075
fior me it doesn't weirdly enough i haven't seen any framerate drops tbqh

>>29235075
Sasuga GF, I didn't expect anything less from their technical genius mind.

>>29235104
it happened on the totem fight when i clicked on cuckninjas stats after iku z. it dropped below 10 frames easily

>>29235153
Didn't happen to me and I myself am using a normal n3ds.

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>>29235190

>>29234942
>im getting a new one with next weeks paycheck anyway

>>29235021
Everyone had

>>29235075
N3DS user here. No drops yet.

>>29234942
are there any framerate drops on N3DS tho? that is the #1 thing ive been wanting to know before i want to buy this game

should I sell my o3DS XL and buy a NEW™ instead? is there a noticeable difference? I don't wanna play the game with the shitty framerate

I wish the new 3DS XL had interchangeable faceplates too, fug

What about the 2DS?

Framerate is still trash on N3DSXL even with Clock + L2 enabled in a9lh. Devs are incomptent. Literally 15FPS in Pokefinder, massive slowdown during Battle Bond transformation.

Didn't notice issues with the totem battle though.

>>29235844
Totem battle started to chug once it summoned an ally.

VGC is going to be shit.

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>I ordered a N3DS a few days ago because of framerate shitposting on /vp/
>Immediately regret it because I was sure they wouldn't fuck it up
>Download the demo
>They fucked it up

thanks, guys

I'm planning to upgrade to a N3DS before Sun/Moon anyway as my 3DS from launch is completely wrecked from playing Smash and accidents involving glue trying to fix the Circle Pad after Smash.

>>29235536
There's a very slight drop when there's more than two pokemon on screen and when you're using the pokefinder but it's not nearly as drastic as Gen 6. Probably drops to about 20-25 range.
Also no drops on ash Greninja transformation.

>>29235844
>playing on an o3DS
You brought this upon yourself.

>>29235224
all 3ds' are the same though, N3ds' are all similar to other n3ds' and same to o3ds' anon. If not it's clear yours is defective

>>29236022

Anon, learn to fucking read.

>>29235867

Odd, I didn't have that issue.

>>29235981

I've got a FPS counter, it's 15FPS in Pokefinder. Ash Greninja drops to 19 when he goes into the ball of water during the transformation, admittedly only briefly.

>>29236152
>Anon, learn to fucking read.
Yeah you were playing on an O3DS. N3DS doesn't chug as much as you claim so there's a clear discrepancy. Unless of course you fucked up your system.

>>29235791
I would wait until the press releases come out, they usually talk about this stuff. This isn't the final game either.

>>29236311

Or you're just not particularly perceptive.

Played the European demo on a New 3DS and Japanese demo on an old 3DS XL, there was next to no difference. Don't take the bait.

>>29236436
Or the more likely scenario, you're shitposting.
After all when you can compare the two on both iterations with an fps counter there's not much that's left to personal interpretation.

N3DS still has framedrops, although probably not as bad as O3DS

Didn't notice anything on my 2DS.

>>29236652
That's exactly what most people are saying.

>>29236592

I've not yet tested on my 2DS, but the Pokefinder was definitely sub 20 on N3DSXL. The transformation slowdown is momentary, but I notice it.

>>29236713
Considering the Pokefinder was like 5 FPS on the O3DS, I believe that.

>>29234942
B-But muh trainers on battle

>>29236713
I'm not saying that there's no drops anon. Just that there's not as much

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>>29236688
>>29236652
>I bought a N3DS for nothing

>>29236677
This one.It was okay for me too.

>>29236800
You're still getting the optimal experience

My frames were dropping when I was walking around the grass.

Sent using o3DS btw

>>29236800
You're getting a fluctuation of 20 to 30 in battle instead of 10 to 20

It was a motherfucking slideshow in my 3ds. I'm very disappointed tbqh. It really killed my hype

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>>29234942
imagine how are going to be the battles with 3vs3

>>29234942
It ran like shit on my N3DS too anon

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Don't worry guys
This was just a demo they'll surely optimize it by launch

>>29236959
This is probably why they removed them, actually.

I hate it, I was all so excited but then it ran like shit on my hardware

>>29236983
>They accidentally deleted the optimization code instead of the dex sprites while scrubbing the demo

Wew preorder cancelled

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>bought an O3DS as a poorfag college kid
>didn't feel the need to spend money I'll probably need upgrading to XL or New
>now might have to
Fuck. Should I just get a used XL or just get a N3DS? I don't want to spend too much since I plan on getting the NX day one if the launch games are good.

>>29237145
Just buy an XL, don't bother selling your o3ds because it won't be worth it. Just get CFW on it. The XL will be fine and the circle pad is more comfortable on it anyway. I can't stand using the circle pad on my o3ds, don't know how anyone puts up with it.

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>Using a z move in a 2vs2 battle

>>29237145
>>29237229

performance sucks on XL as well. I'm not upgrading though, I literally have this console just for Pokémon. Just gonna have to bite the choppy framerate pillow

>>29237474
This. On my Al9h Overlocked Old3DS XL looks shit as well.
I dont know if on the N3DS it runs a lot better.

>>29237474
>performance sucks on XL as well.
It's considerably better than it is on the O3DS anon.

>>29235024
That happened to me on the new one, it started making noise, it has never happened to me before, kinda weird

>inb4 guys! it'll work better if you play it in a cartridge

Went back to the Totem battle, and I can confirm that there is a slight framerate drop on the n3ds. But it goes back to normal once the camera angle changes, I think it only happens when the trainer and the three mons are in the frame (maybe the aura the Totem mons get might also be at cause).

Pokefinder is somewhat laggy too, around 20 fps I'm guessing.

>>29238006
>noise
Yeah there's some kind of problem with your system if it's making unusual sounds.

>>29236311
>Unless of course you fucked up your system.
Are you some kind of retard? Yeah obvious all those haxx he installed gave the 3DS viruses!!!

>>29236592
He literally states he used an N3DS and I can confirm there are framedrops on the N3DS aswell. It's because of the models with totem battle fx and the new landscape.

Stop being retarded.

>>29237959
The XL is an o3DS you retard.

Nintendo 3DS, Nintendo 3DS XL = o3DS
New Nintendo 3DS, New Nintendo 3DS XL = n3DS

>>29238256
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it.
I didn't say it didn't have framedrops. That's near impossible for any game. I said that they aren't too the degree he's saying. And if you had actually made the comparison you would know that.

>>29236592
>buyers remorse this fucking hard

>>29238280
This the only difference with XL is the screen size.

>>29238256
>b-but it still drops!
Stop being retarded. No one said it didn't.
And for the record it only drops frames when a second mon is summoned.

>>29238372
>>buyers remorse this fucking hard
This is why you should have waited. You were told that an eventual revision would come out and you didn't listen.

It was 15 fps for me the whole battle!

>>29238501
Gotta deal with it if you don't want to upgrade.

>>29238480
>implying I didn't just trade in my O3DS when getting a N3DS
>Implying I needed to wait like a poorfag and miss out on playing games on release

Everyone knew there was going to be revision, you retard. I'm not waiting four years to play games that I want to play.

You're just trying way too fucking hard to defend your purchase, it's textbook buyers remorse.

>>29238006
If there's a noise, something is up with your system, even the O3DS wasn't making noise, just really fucking hot.

>>29238123
Oh God my sides

>>29238637
Way to project kiddo.
In any case, it's clear that you've not actually touched the system let alone play the demo on it. Hell even if you did you yourself can't even make a comparison because you traded your O3DS. Which kind of confirms how poor you are if you couldn't pay the measly cost for a N3DS.

Next time, don't go on a little temper tantrum okay?

>>29238686
What's funny about that?

My (old) 3ds legit imploded halfway through playing the demo. Now I have a reason to buy a new 3ds.

>>29238788
Jesus christ you're a fucking retard. I played the demo, the frame rate dropped in the photo and totem segments.

I traded my old 3DS in because there is no point in owning two 3DSes you fucking downie.

>>29238908
>the frame rate dropped in the photo and totem segments.
And no one is saying it didn't you idiot. The whole thing that started this was how that anon, or you, blew it totally out of proportion.

>I traded my old 3DS in because there is no point in owning two 3DSes you fucking downie.
Oh so you are just that poor then.

>>29239003
>Oh so you are just that poor then.

I have no need for two 3DSes, there is no reason to not trade the other in. Not taking free money is why you always be poor.

>>29238908
Just stop posting dude. Ranting like a baby is getting you nowhere.

>>29239049
same tbqh

>>29239047
>Not taking free money is why you always be poor.
Coming from the person lacking adequate disposable income. Once you start making enough that "free money" doesn't matter.

n3ds are still too fucking expensive and you cannot guarantee a ip screen

if anyone is really peeved enough to get a new one wait until black friday.

>>29239129
Which you aren't.

>>29239129
You were literally berating people for buying the o3DS in the first place. Clearly you have fuck all disposable income.

>>29239450
>You were literally berating people for buying the o3DS in the first place.
If you hadn't noticed there are people in this thread that are literally regretting buying the O3DS because of sun and moon performing worse on it than the N3DS. Believe it or not there are in fact people who purchased the system solely for Pokemon games.

>Clearly you have fuck all disposable income.
>you can spend money how you like without worry clearly you have no money!
Kind of skipped a line of thought there didn't you.

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A lot of people seem to keep forgetting that this is only a DEMO. It's not the complete game. Come on, guys; you're smarter than that.

>>29240768
But Game Freak isn't.

>>29240768

>but its just a DEMO

come on man
dont be that guy

>>29240768
So the complete game will be slower? Is that what you're saying?

>>29240871
>implying
If GameFreak doesn't optimize their game, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.

>>29240944
Not at all, anon. I'm simply saying the FPS is white right now because it's not done being made. GameFreak still has a month or so to fix it. Plus, don't forget the game breaking problems with XY the they had to patch out.

>>29241215
>GameFreak still has a month or so
They don't. At this point they're shipping the copies out.

>>29241215
wonky right now*

>>29241215
They don't have a month. Remember that cartridges have to be made, boxes printed, and sent out to suppliers. The game is done. If they were going to fix frame drops, they would have done it for the demo.

>>29235002
I had no problem with the city itself, it was the battles that had drops since they decided to put the trainer models inside.
Seriously, if I had drops in a 1vs1 battle against a small mon, I don't want to see what happens in a 2vs2

>>29240768
Yeah, it's a demo, not a beta.
A demo is just a final version with cut content, not an in development version.

The game IS NOT N3DS optimized, so it's going to run the same, unless you do the overclock hack thing, which KILLS battery life.

>>29241525
There was a 3 mon battle and it was like 5fps at times.

>>29234942
Switching to 3D was a mistake. I'm serious.

Cutscenes are needlessly elaborate and slow.

The frame drops.

Encourages constant gimmicky reskins that result in even more overly long cutscenes.

Environments that are pretty to look at but have no gameplay value (all the bridges in Unova, empty roads in Kalos, the confusing alleyways of Lumiose City)

The NPCs have overly elaborate talking animations but have dead eyes straight from the uncanny valley, breaking immersion and making it a chore to talk to anyone, which is unacceptable in an RPG

Go back and play a Generation III game and experience glorious 60FPS with sprite-based graphics and a synergy between environment and gameplay

>>29241643
>so it's going to run the same
Anon we already know it runs better on N3DS.

>>29236677
Yeah, I was thinking it would be really bad in genreal on my 2ds but aside from the frame drop in the totem battle everything was fine, even the pokefinder. The totem frame drop was kinda massive though, but I expected that incompetence from GF anyway.

>>29241932
>Environments that are pretty to look at but have no gameplay value (all the bridges in Unova, empty roads in Kalos, the confusing alleyways of Lumiose City)
Unova has the most exploration of any game. You should have said Sinnoh.

>>29234971
The framerate dropped drastically during the part you had to take pictures.

And I was playing on a N3DS XL.

>>29242033
We all know that happens on both systems.
What's different is the battles and overworld they drop hard on the O3DS.

>>29240768
Game comes out in a month. It's gone gold by now.

>>29235024
(me)
now that I've had a chance to play it on the N3DS
it only drops a few frames when fighting the totem and its ally, while on the O3DS I could have sworn that there were 6 moltres in primordial sea with the 3DS hacked to be on or something.
Also my hand didn't feel like it was being cooked alive.

There is some annoying scanline on the screen when you move around.

>>29242214
Water-cooled 3DS when?

>>29242261
I noticed that outside of the city as well.

now that I played the demo it feels like a giant flop to me.
It's so slow and laggy.
Not even DPP was this slow.

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Just played it on an 3DS XL. Here are the facts:
In some trainer battles, the game may slowdown a little once both Pokemon and trainers are in the screen at the same time, but only when you're choosing a move. You know in how the game slowed down back in the battle maison whenever you where choosing a move and there was a whether effect like sandstorm? Kind of like that but not as bad. Once you choose a move, the game goes back to normal.
The only thing that really fucks up the framerate real bad is the photo minigame and the totem battle, but that literally happens in both o3DS and n3DS. You could go out right now and buy the newest n3DS and it would still run like shit.
Overworld runs flawlessly. Pikachu's Z move has no framerate drops. The 3DS doesn't get hot either, that's just bullshit.

>>29244166
I agree with this. I tested the demo on both my o3DS and n3DS and this seems to be the case regardless.

The TL;DR of this whole situation is that Game Freak still hasn't gotten good at optimization.

>>29234942
had no frame drops on N3dsXL

>>29244166
I noticed a slowdown only during Totem Pokemon battle, everything else (including photos) was running just fine. 3D during battles doesn't work for me, so I assume it's disabled for the demo (but it's just additional FPS drop so fuck it).

N3DS XL, not overclocked.

>>29235844
I noticed a a little bit of a drop during the battle bond animation, a big drop during poke finder, no problems during totem battle though

N3DS here

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>>29244166
Also, go take a look at some of the reveal trailers. You can see some slowdowns in double battles and totem battles. And you know they're using a n3DS for those trailers.

>>29244166
My old 3DS got hot.

The Old 3DS goes into Smash Brothers mode to squeeze out a little more performance while the New 3DS just loads normally. It's really noticeable at boot, when switching maps, and closing the demo (causing the old 3ds to reset)

>>29244166
Of course there's still some slowdowns in the N3Ds during the totem battle, the argument is its not nearly as bad as on the O3DS

>>29244359
3D is disabled entirely for the whole game.

>>29244523
Worked when taking photos.

>>29244512
Do you have both? The slowdowns felt equally bad between my o3DS and n3DS.

>>29244556
Oh right, that's the only time it's active. I forgot because it was negligible.

Do Old 3DS get hot or not? I need to know so I know whether or not to buy a new one

>>29242132
Overworld battles are fine until they add an aura and another pokemon.
Then you let the camera idle and it all goes to shit.

>>29244653
I haven't experienced the sensation of heat some people are talking about.

>>29244653
No heat here with a o3DS XL.

>>29234942
only framerate issues I had were with the totem fight and the pokewatcher, I noticed sometimes when a battle starts there's a little drop.

>>29234942

Gotta buy that n3DS to get that silky smooth 25 FPS goyim.

Only $250. That's not that much, it's only around 30 working hours. Now get to it!

>>29244166
>You know in how the game slowed down back in the battle maison whenever you where choosing a move and there was a whether effect like sandstorm? Kind of like that but not as bad
Bullshit. I played the demo and got 10-15 FPS during the totem fight when idling.
XY was NEVER this bad unless you had 3D turned on (which is not even a fucking option now.)

>>29244569
Yes, I have both.
the N3DS felt like a normal frame drop, maybe from 30 to 25?
the O3DS went from like, 25, to 20, all the way down to fucking 10. Go ahead and do a triple battle in XY with 6 Moltres and an intense weather condition and use Fire Blast, you'll get the effect I felt fighting the Totem on the O3DS

>>29244653
no and I play on a 2DS which is the shittiest 3DS model

>>29244727
These posts are so stupid.

Had frame drops in standard battles on o3DSXL but I suppose I can bear with it, the overworld still seems fine at least.

>>29244760
It seems weird to me that different n3DS's seem to be experiencing different issues and some o3DS's are working well enough.

>>29244762

t. Goldberg

Has anyone had an issue with downloading the demo on o3DS?
I've been sitting here for about half an hour and it's at maybe 10% completion

>>29244813
if it helps, the O3DS is a launch original 3DS while the N3DS is a launch N3DSXL, the O3DS is aqua blue while the N3DSXL is Red

>>29244873
>a launch original 3DS
That's probably it. I've got that XY special edition 3DSXL and it seems to be struggling about the same as a launch N3DS from what I've read.

N3DS Clock + L2 enabled in a9lh, and it lags like shit.
The trainer models are way too much.

So does GF just not know how to video game?
I've seen gameplay of Federation Farce and it has both far more going on at once and consistently better framerate.

>>29245010
>N3DS Clock + L2 enabled in a9lh
I think I'm starting to see a pattern here.
Does anyone else who's having problems with an N3DS have a hacked system?

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>Using your 3D
>Ever
Do you like having a headache?

>>29245109
I honestly hope you aren't thinking that GF somehow managed to figure out a way to detect hacked 3DS and that the game is only lagging on hacked 3DS to "punish" hackers.

I have one of the first 3DS launched (the ones where the borders of the lower screen leave marks on the upper screen) and while I did see a lower framerate during the totem fight, it was minor and I probably wouldn't have noticed it if I wasn't looking for it (not as bad as 3D horde battles in XY). The rest of the game ran fine.

There is no way what I am seeing is what people are crying about. The only thing I can think of is that I had my 3DS modified to record videos, but I don't see why this would enhance its performances.

>>29245147
Nobody's using 3D lad.
You can't. It's stuttering even with the 3D off.

>>29245109
Hacked here >>29244359

>>29245147
They literally removed the 3D for SM. You can't even use it.

>>29245109
I'm >>29244873
>>29244760
>>29244512
>>29235024
>>29242214

My N3DS has Homebrew, my O3DS has A9HL

I find it funny that Yokai Watch manages to use 3D in and out of battles with no issue on top of having multiple regions and letting any Yo-kai you want follow you around.

>>29245302
GF are super shitty developers, more at eleven.

That the models are so super high quality with the 3DS being such a shitty machine doesn't make a good combination either.

>>29234942
It's not just o3DS. I have an N3DSXL and it's laggy as fuck.

Safe to say it's not n3DS optimized at all. They would have mentioned it by now, right?

This is unplayable. The battles make my eyes hurt. Sub 20 fps bullshit is what I expect in shitty western games.

Goodbye pokemon, I'm a SMTorpedo now.

>>29245351
The New 3DS has a higher clockrate than the Vita. It's just shitty programming.

>>29245204
Of course not, but I do remember that clock + L2 can cause games to crash and other unwanted effects.

Did no one play X/Y and ORAS?

Those games shit the bed much harder than Sun and Moon.

>>29245445
I have both and they don't.

>>29245445
On my N3DS it runs much better than XYORAS
On my O3DS? not so much

>>29234942
The only noticeable framerate drops I had was in the pokefinder section. Everything seems fine

>>29245302
This is just sad, really. YW looks good and has a nice 3d effect everywhere, while SM looks worse and on top of that doesn't have 3d at all to make it a little more appealing. I hope it's just the demo.

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Just watched some videos on youtube of people playing the demo on a n3DS. The game struggles in the totem battle just as bad as in my o3DS.

TL;DR: It runs like shit everywhere.

>>29245609
No one uses 3D. Go shill your boring, soulless games elsewhere.

>>29245609
They've been playing catch up with Yokai Watch in the graphics department since their first preview video in 2011.

XYORAS had the same models that we're getting now in Sun and Moon but they were limited to a couple cutscenes. The development team had to settle for the chibi style we got for the last generation.

Original 3DS here. Framerate dropped HARD when the totem Hakamo-o called in a support pokemon. The framerate also drops whenever you're in a trainer battle and both trainer models are in view. I can't imagine what double battles must be like. Not even going to bother mentioning the pokéfinder sections, that was abysmal.

Anyone who denies the framerate drops is either someone with very faulty memory or just a butthurt fanboy.

Totem battles brought to you by Microsoft PowerPoint™.

>>29245673
>The game struggles in the totem battle just as bad as in my o3DS.
It shouldn't. It should only drop about 5 or so frames when a second mon appears unlike the 15 or so on the O3DS.

>>29245745
I have the XY 3DSXL and I had the problems with the totem battle and the pokefinder, but not with the trainer battles.

>>29245849
>It shouldn't.
True. But have you actually seen it run in both an o3DS and n3DS? It's just as bad.

>>29245745
Some moves drop the framerate pretty hard too. I used Night Slash and it dropped in the first battle, but Water Shuriken didn't have the same problem.

>>29245899
I downloaded the demo on both O3DS and N3DS.
Unless you've messed something up with the system itself the N3DS shouldn't chug as much as the original.

>>29245109
It only lags like shit in the totem battle

>>29234942
Has someone tried it on both O3DS and N3DS at the same time, especially in Totem Battle?

>>29246105
Also pokefinder.

>>29246201
On the n3ds the totem battle only drops a small amount of frames when Hakomo-o uses autotomize and when it summons another mon. otherwise it's fairly smooth.
On the o3ds it's almost always a constant presence throughout the battle.

Pokefinder is just as bad as no matter what.

>>29246201
There's usually that YouTube channel, Digital Foundry that'll do that in due time.
They did comparisons for Hyrule Warrior Legends on O3DS and N3DS.

>>29244653
O3ds XL, no heating up here

The weirdest thing is how inconsistent the framerate is during battles with more than 2 Pokemon.

As the camera pans around, the framerate is all over the place. I'd almost just rather it STAY at fucking 15fps.

>>29244653
Launch day original O3DS, heated up more than usual

ill be fucking glad when the next gen of hand held games can run steady 480p/720p games at 60 fps

this gen for handhelds was a meme

>>29238333
>That's near impossible for any game
Please never post again you under-aged retard.

>>29245254
>>29245262
That's my point.
Why are you all even complaining about a feature that's rarely used anyway?

>>29246728
>he thinks games never drop frames

>>29246741
Because they can't make the game run well even without it while every other game runs even with 3D.

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>>29246798
>he thinks all games does

The PS4 generation sure has it rough.

>>29244653
Didn't notice anything, but that isn't surprising, since the game needs to use extended memory like Smash does, so it's gonna push the 3DS way more than previous pokémon games. Especially on the full with online enabled.

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>>29246849
Poor ignorant PC only kiddies. Just because you can't notice the drops on Undertale doesn't mean they aren't there.

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Who here /old3dsxl/? What are your thoughts/experiences?

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mfw i only use 2ds

Gamefreak are incompetent as always.

I certainly didn't expect anything else after the gen VI framedrop-fest, but I was hoping they would actually try to improve shit a little more.

>>29241525

Now we know why they axed triples and rotations.

The game would literally crash from trying to have so many models active at once.

>>29247027
God you're so underage it hurts.
Or clinically retarded.
Either way I'm sorry for your parents.

>>29247126
To be fair, they did. The game has fps drops, but so did XY, while looking way worse.

>>29247102
I do. I need it for big hands and the big screen and battery time is nice, but the circle pad is terrible and broke off after a lot of Mario Kart 7 and Tr4sh, so I'm gonna be really annoyed if there's no way to enable dpad on the full (even before it broke I preferred using dpad for pokémon, like I did for years).

My brother does have a 2DS and it's not that bad, 3DSXL is pretty bad in mobility anyway, and I can't see 3D properly due to eyesight problems.

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>>29247202
Here's a tip anon. Next time you play a game slap on an fps counter.

>>29246799
It's only the demo, save your shitting until the final game is out.

And it's not that bad.

>>29247126
They did, but you can only see it on a N3DS.

>>29245869
Exactly the same for me. I'm hoping things are at least a little better with the Solgaleo/Lunaala n3DS

>>29247268
> Masuda: Quick, men! The game is almost out! We need MORE FRAMES!

>*Game Freak frantically shovel extra frames into a burning furnace*

Is that how you think games are made?

>>29246849
You may not notice it, especially on sprite based games, but there's yet to be a video game that's totally consistent in it's frame rate.

>>29247268
The final game is already done though. They uploaded Sun to eShop servers yesterday (obviously not usable since we don't have the titlekey and seed).

>>29247346
Don't go into game development here anon. The stupidity will astound you.
With the way they post you'd think that they think games are put together at the retailer.

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>>29247257
Did YOU try putting up a fps counter on anything remotely optimized for the system it's in?

Or did you just spend your life collecting smug reaction faces while playing the yearly rehash that major studios put out?

If you really think it's impossible to make games with FPS in mind then you're just as smart as a roadkill dog.

I'm still sorry for your parents by the way.

>>29236177
only fuck are we in the stone age. not even games in the 90s had fps issues.

>>29247359
If any game that runs at 30fps has frame drops then it's an optimization failure. Specially since most of them have the frame rate locked for that specific reason.

Seriously, get out of /v/ and /vp/ and go visit /g/ sometimes. It will blow your mind.

Even /vr/ will teach you a thing or two.

The game was optimized for the NX.

Is the old xl any better anyway thats what I got on cfw and im not gonna go buy a n3ds for one game. I didnt need too for monsterhunter x in the end.

i got a 2ds

im going to see if if can find some n3ds deals on black friday but overall getting a n3ds seems to just be so slight and improvement that it isn't worth it

meh, this gen of handhelds was just too weak

>>29236311
Anon it says in his post he was playing on n3ds, are you fucking illiterate? If you think the n3ds doesn't have any issues at all you're an idiot as well. N3ds is certainly better but it isn't perfect

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Fucking hell gamefreak. Granted, this game has drops as well, still it looks significantly better and has no drops during combat at all. Come the fuck on.

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>>29247464
Nice ad homs and hypocrisy you have there but in all seriousness put up an fps counter next time or hell do it now. There's not a single game that exists from the creation of video games until now that doesn't drop even the smallest of frames even games that have been perfectly optimized will always fluctuate and lost at least five frames on a regular basis. Of course it's in quick bursts so people like you wouldn't notice unless you have the actual counter.

It doesn't matter what platform you're playing on. It's never going to have a perfect framerate.

>>29246728
>thinking drastic framedrops are the only kind of framedrops
Excuse me?

>>29247860
>people really think this

are you just trolling?

>>29235882
>having 4chan influence your buying power

Seriously, as an former resident of /g/'s watch threads, don do that.

>>29247809
Anon, it says in his post that the N3DS chugs but not as much as the O3DS like the guy he's replying to said, are you fucking illiterate? If you think the N3DS drops as hard as the O3DS you're an idiot as well. The N3DS still drops but it certainly isn't as bad.

>>29247359
>>29247860
>>29247926
ITT: People that never played Devil May Cry 4

>>29247255
Unfortunately I think the d-pad is reserved for registering pokeride pokemon

>>29248090
>DMC games
>perfect framerate
You what nigga?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN5DfCJwmNY
Granted it's stable as fuck but it still drops.

N3DSXL here.

I didn't notice anything in finder, but probably because I didn't fuck around with it and activated it less than a second every time before pressing R.

No issue in totem battle except at the battle bond transformation.

Also, watch the latest japanese trailers where you see pokemon evolving, there's noticable lag, not as much as battle bond but still present.

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>>29248164
>DMC games
>Links literally DmC, the abomination made by Ninja Theory

Thanks for triggering me you underaged fuck. Also thanks for proving that you know literally nothing about what you're talking.

And the nigga even specified DMC4 for fucks sake.

>>29248273
>No issue in totem battle
Actually, let me correct something here: there was huge lags when the idle camera was showing the scene.

>>29247860
>I literally (literal) don't know what I'm talking about: the post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVVtDpUa5Jk

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-super-mario-3d-world

>Every moment of the game, every menu transition, and every element of the user interface all operate at 60fps without a single hitch.

That's just one example.

>>29248290
>NO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE A MISTAKE
Naw nigga, don't work like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kv3GbTWTWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBWOcpnnFDg
Like I said, stable as fuck but still drops especially on the Xbone version.

>Also thanks for proving that you know literally nothing about what you're talking.
>Not playing a single DMC game in your life

>>29245445
They ran like ass but god, this one runs waaaaay worse.

>>29248433
>posting the wrong game again

Holy fucking shit.

He just keeps going.

Want to try again cupcake?

You never played a dmc game in your life. You can lie to us, but you just proved it twice.

>>29248494
>literally DMC 4
>literally the most optimized version
>still has drops
Stay salty.

>>29247102
I've got one. The biggest offenders I noticed:

When battling the Skull grunt, the camera shifted to the floor. It panned from Yungoos to Greninja, with the city in the background. The framerate chugged during those few seconds.

Hakamo-o called Rockruff, the the framerate got pretty bad and struggled until the Rockruff fainted.

The camera, but we all know about that already.

Aside from all that, the demo's framerate seemed pretty similar to what we got in XY/ORAS.

>>29248528
Didn't the PC version of the SE lose like 100fps on the same hardware?

>>29248426
Not him but SM3DW has small drops in the Plessy level because of the water.
That said I can't think of a current 3D Kirby game that drops with the 3D effect off.

>>29248642
Planet Robobot is actually a pretty demanding game on some levels, you can notice it even on the N3DS with 3D off on occasion, but it's prevalent on the O3DS.

>>29248528
OH MY GOD HE JUST KEEPS GOING

It's LITERALLY not DMC 4.
It's the LITERALLY the remastered version.

And guess what fuckface? It LITERALLY doesn't use the same engine as the original, is LITERALLY made by another company brought under Capcom and you, again LITERALLY proved that
YOU
DON'T
KNOW
SHIT.

You can keep trying though.

>>29248642
Does it? I'm not aware, but it does seem strange that DF did not comment on that as it would stick out.

Besides

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHyP_kK0esI
>a locked 60 frames per second update that never shows any sign of compromise.

I'll take their word on it over a random poster that has no clue what he's talking about (the post quoted in my previous post and not you, that is) any day

>frame drops even on an n3ds
Welp. I'll never fucking buy this game. Pirating it, and you should too. Fuck gamefreak.

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Does anyone else see faint horizontal lines in the area before the cave?

>>29248905
Did you actually expect them to learn anything about the platform? Least the music is good.

>>29248713
Dude. You do realise that the original DMC 4 played at an inconsistent 60 on 360 and had to be dropped to 30 on PS3 right?
And the PS3 still had slight drops and the 360 version even had screen tearing.

What exactly are you ranting and raving about?

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>pokemon will never be completely 60fps again

>>29245445
Yeah, and I had a huge issue with it then but expected gf to fix it like they did with gen 5 running much better than 4.
I've lost all my faith in gamefreak now desu.

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>>29248988
>could have had 60fps DS games if Gen 4 didn't start the pseudo 3D bullshit

>>29235024
>3DS is a shit console
What a surprise. I guess I'll play it on citra

>>29249048
>I guess I'll play it on citra
Where you'll experience both framedrops AND crashes while you shell out a fortune for a PC that can actually run it properly.

>>29234942
>totem fight
>calls in a second pokemon
>frames drop

still shitty and unoptimized

>>29249018
To be fair, it would take another year or so to remake each and every model in the game so it wouldn't have drops.
Just be glad that it doesn't chug as much on the N3DS.

>>29247607
Never played one PSX game did you?

>>29248959
I'm rating about fucking retards who don't know what the fuck they're talking about but think they do. If someone says DMC 4 is something, then you post something about DmC or the special edition to try and counter it, you're a fucking retard. That said, the post about DMC 4 being perfect wasn't mine. I played the PC version of it which ran at 120fps on my 9600gt.

Anyway, the reason I got so upset is because that fuckers post about DmC triggered me the fuck out. As did that whole game.

>>29249194
Jesus Christ.
Did DmC kill your son or something?

>>29249235
Honestly, I think that would've been better than what we got.

I have zero faith in these peoples' ability to optimize their 3D content on a per-game basis. In fact, I don't think they did at all. I bet there's a model optimizer that you could drop all the Pokemon into, remove literally over 30% of vertices then come out looking fucking identical at 3DS resolution and performing dramatically better. They made "future proof" models that they'll use forever, but also don't fucking feel like putting them through a simple batch process to make current gen games run properly. Like they think that would ruin the HQ models that they should be storing separately from the games.

>>29249284
Your post just now was more edgy than DmC.

>>29249380
That's because I don't have a son.
If I did, then you'd be right.

Actually, no. That game is deviantart tier of cringe and edginess.

>game uses the same XY/ORAS engine
>they add more flashy shit in battle like trainers and auras
>people are somehow surprised it runs even worse than previous games

>>29249558
>>game uses the same XY/ORAS engine
This is the part that I'm surprised about retard. Gamefreak being this lazy shows that don't really give a fuck about pokemon.

>>29249558
>>people are somehow surprised it runs even worse than previous games
It actually runs better
on and N3DS.

>>29249591
They don't have to care, it will sell regardless, and competition doesn't matter.

>>29249591
Why would they give a fuck about it when they have so many apologists who they can shove their cock into in one go without lube who will thank them for them and then beg to be cummed inside?

>>29249633
It runs like shit even on it.

I can't imagine how bad it will be during double battles.

>>29249591
Why would you be surprised that they used the same engine they chugged millions of japanese bucks to make, to run it on the same console it was designed for?

At least be surprised they didn't improve shit on using it effectively.

>>29249680
>It runs like shit even on it.
Not really, I mean it still has drops but they aren't as widespread as they were in gen 6 or on the O3DS.

>>29249737
>Wow instead of 15fps it runs at 20fp instead it's perfectly playable! Thank you Gamefreak what wouldn't I do without you!

Literally you >>29249650

>>29249737
They could at least have made it like gen 6. Then used the extra power the N3DS has to improve the frame drops.
It's like your house is on fire, and you can't put it out because all you have is a garden hose. Then, when the firemen comes, you set fire to the neighbor's house to compensate for the extra water.

>>29234942
Aside from the obvious dip when using the Finder/Camera thing the only framerate drop I noticed was a very slight one near the end of Ash-Greninja's transformation. Aside from that, nothing, not during cutscenes, not during the Z-Move, not during the Totem Pokemon battle, nothing. Then again I'm playing on N3DSXL. If there's a difference between playing on O3DS and N3DS I'll be quite pleased, I wish more games made use of the better hardware.

They should add an option to remove background trainers from battles. Pretty sure that's whats fucking up the framerate.

>>29249839
If at least the Z-Moves and Double Battles don't lag, then it's a win. I guess.

Fuck.

>>29249780
>being this mad because you read better as good

>>29249816
That's exactly what they did, the problem is that they now incorporated trainers into the mix as well as more varied backgrounds so the progression made dropped hard. That said it still runs better than XY did even if just a little.

Can anyone confirm that the 3DS version performs worse than the N3DS version? That would be really interesting.

>>29250111
no

>>29249940
That's what I said. They had a solution for the frame drops, but instead they ran wild with the extra power and ended up in the same place they were before. At least from what people are saying about the frame rates on the N3DS.

Old 3DS here.

It never felt warm, and I only had frame drops during the totem fight and pokemon snap parts. Why is everyone saying otherwise?

>>29250111
Until someone makes a video of both versions running side by side with a framerate counter, no.

Both O3DS and N3DS users are reporting shitty performance, and considering that have yet to advertise it being an N3DS enhanced game at all it's most likely placebo if N3DS users think it's running better.

So when you guys say o3ds are you counting the xl version or does that run better.

but really its 2016 these shitty handhelds have to stop nintendo the nx better be more powerful then the vita with a 1080p screen. I'm not buying if its a burly shitty resolution with 15 fps that the n64 could handle at 60.

this is just sad.

>>29250256
>Both O3DS and N3DS users are reporting shitty performance
I've noticed that the only people who seem to have major trouble with the N3DS are people who have hacked their system and clocked it.

>>29250239
where could I get the demo is it up on the eshop?

>>29250365
It's not a problem with the handheld being shitty. There are games that look way better than Pokemon that run without a hitch.

The problem is Game Freak's programmers are a fucking embarrassment and Nintendo should step in and call them out on their shit.

>>29250365
the XL is still an original.

>>29250369
>I've noticed that the only people who seem to have major trouble with the N3DS are people who have hacked their system and clocked it.

That doesn't make any sense
>N3DS users can just disable that
>that clock actually just prevents the 3DS to get underclocked on O3DS games. The "overclock" is actually N3DS being on its normal speed.

>>29250365
What's sad is that you don't know shit about video games.
The power of the console doesn't matter if the devs do their job, for example Cyber Sleuth on Vita regularly chugs.

>>29250365
Also thank god the 3d era is over holy shit that was a retarded idea on such shitty systems what a waste of resources.
>>29250410
yeah I know but in general these generations of handhelds are so outdated its not even funny. I'm not buying a fucking n3ds for 5 more fps. that system should of been far more updated and was a cash grab.
>>29250483
I know what resolution is and the 3ds no matter what game besides 2d is a blurry mess.

The vita looks ten times more clear. but no matter what I hope the NX is fully updated in that area so it looks nice. as long as it can handle it anyway.

>>29250599
>yeah I know but in general these generations of handhelds are so outdated its not even funny
Consoles handheld or otherwise are extremely outdated.

>>29234942
Just played the entire thing with my 3D slider turned on on a standard unhacked N3DS. The framerate was a steady 30fps for almost the entire thing. IIRC the camera sequences were the only things actually in 3D, and the framerate dropped to the low 20s. Ditto for the totem battle. The framerate drops are NOWHERE near as bad as anything in gen 6, largely because there is no 3D. I think you can all calm down.

>>29250461
It doesn't make sense but it does seem to be the connecting factor.
After all most people who haven't hacked it have been having a generally better experience than those who have when it comes to performance.

>>29250751
The sample size is way too small to draw this conclusion, anon.

I just downloaded the demo.

Did they remove the 3D effect completely from the games?

>>29251012
>that almost no developer seems to know exist.
Nearly every game released after then N3DS has some kind of enhancement that utilizes it.

>>29251079
Only Pokefinder has 3D.

>>29247102

The tl;dr o3DSXL experience is significant frame drops when there's more than 1v1 Pokémon on screen, but no heating up. Overworld is fine as well.

>>29250239
Me too. Hell, I left the demo running for an hour because I had to run an errand and it still felt normal. Don't know why people just want to make up things to bitch about.

>>29234942
Same on n3ds but VERY little in difference. THESE fags cant into 3ds yet

>>29244653
its bullshit, don't worry about it

>>29249048
Dont be autistic. Is poor optimisation. Mh4u runs at steady 30-40 fps on a n3ds online and 50 to 60 solo offline. GF has no excuse

>>29241932

No, the mistake was Nintendo putting out underpowered hardware that they think is good enough because their internal teams know all the tricks and can get what they want out of it.

>>29249591
Oh god i just realized that VGC will suck SHIT with all the frame drop. Thing gets below 20

>>29251811
The hardware has nothing to do with it. The problem lies with the developers either not understanding what they're working with or neglecting on optimization.
Why do you think so little games nowadays perform correctly even on more powerful systems? The large majority of them run like absolute horseshit.

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>framedrops nowhere on performance-unlocked n3DS

>>29251811
That is literally nintendo's entire business plan
>push out underpowered piece of shit that sells for cheap
>they know it inside and out, thus can push it to its limit and make games impressive for the hardware
>AH SHIT WHERE DID THE THIRD PARTIES GO!? DON'T THEY WANT TO PAINSTAKINGLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEVELOP FOR THIS TURD??

>>29251811
Other developers can actually figure shit out, look at how Youkai Watch runs smooth as baby's butt.

This is just GF being incompetent fuckmunchs as they have always been.

>>29241048
Gamefreak is lazy as fuck look at the goddamn datamine

I only noticed framerate drops in dual battles on my o3ds. it's about the same as what happens in XY and oras but a little worse.

I noticed the framerate likes to dip when it does that one angled camera shot where your trainer, your pokemon, and the other trainer and their pokemon are all visible at the same time

No fucking wonder they disabled 3d on 1v1.

I'm using an original 3DS, if that matters

>>29252279
>PAINSTAKINGLY
>literally defending the incompetence of third parties
Nigga if they can develop for the PS3 they can develop for anything Nintendo makes. Compared to that beast it's like walking through a park.

>>29234942
>You can't walk slowly.

Only speeds are WHOAFUCKyoujuststartedmoving and a fast version of it. Also, taking sharp turns is annoying as fuck. XY & ORAS had better movement mechanics.

>>29235791
There won't be a noticeable difference, let alone one worthy enough purchasing a new device for.

>>29235882
Not the end of the world, at least you learned from your mistake.

Alt: Haha nice job faggot

>>29253181
>There won't be a noticeable difference
There's already a noticeable difference with the demo.

>>29240768
>he thinks the final game will have improved performance
Newfag.

>>29241215
Game Freak isn't going to do shit anymore, it's about to ship the games if it hasn't started doing that already. Do you really think it can produce a godload of cartridges in only a few days?

>>29236177
If it's consistently 15 FPS it's probably intentionally capped like that. Why? I dunno. But that's a weird number.

>>29253371
yes, it's obviously capped for the pokefinder. I guess they were trying to make it evident that you were viewing the world through a device?

Alolain tech sucks

>>29253456
Well they do live extremely far from other regions.

>>29251971
You mean usin the n3ds full cpu and shit?