will be kommo-o the worst pseudo-legendary?

>Pseudo legendary
You haven't learned anything from Haxorus haven't you

>>29199730
>kommo-o
>pseudo

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>>29199752
>Thinking a gen with ~80 new Pokemon is going to have Kommo-o and another 3-stage pseudo

>>29199836
>he thinks wimpod isn't the pseudo

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>>29199730
Hydreigon is still the king of cuckdragons, so no. 2nd place at best.

>>29199877
The pseudo has never been announced before release. It can't be Wimpod.

>>29199730
>psyquic
>I didn't even notice that typo in the first reading

>>29199836
Just like Noivern was the pseudo of gen 6 right ?

Not while Goodra exists.

>only a 84 HP stat
>5'03"

Kommo-o is going to be the worse pusedo ever and its not even close. It's like they knew Dragon/Fighting would be strong so they'll make sure it can only be played in UU, and even then it'll be outclassed by Salamance.

>>29199730
Don't worry, you'll get iron head with your base 1,000,000 Atk stat and shit all over gardewhore

>>29199730
Oh shit, it's weak to psychic, you're right it's the worst by far.

>>29199730
>base 60 Def
If anything, Gardevoir should be the one worried since if this thing can run Choice Scarf in case it has inder 100 Speed (but it didn't really seem like that, at least to me) and has massive offensive stats, it's good night for the widdoe.

>>29199752
>>29199835
Was Hakamo-o and Kommo-o fighting Gabite and Garchomp not enough evidence?

>Switched in Kommo-o
>MegaWaifu used Hyper Voice!
>It was blocked by Kommo-o's Soundproof
>Kommo-o used Bullet Punch (Off base 150 Attack)
>MegaWaifu fainted!

Is he OUR guy?

>>29199889
this

>>29199889
>>29199971
No way is it Kommo-o then, even though everything about it screams PSEUDO

>>29199730
No.

>>29199934
This.

>>29199935
If it gets Dragon Dance, which signs are pointing to from its flavor text, it will be OU at least. It's far from the worst. It's on the edge of being sent to Ubers.

>>29199935
>>29199958
LOL

>>29199877
nah wimpod is the new gyarados

>>29199969
>Manlet Dragon
>150atk stat

When will they ever learn

>>29199989
Gen 6 had 7 three-stage lines.
Gen 7 has 6 confirmed so far.

One more could be the pseudo.

Nah, Goodra is the worst pseudo. Hydreigon is second, but even then there is a huge power gap between it and Goodra. Kommo-o might be Salamence and Hydreigon tier, so BL at the least.

>>29199935
If it has low HP, the that means the rest of its stat most likely are focused on offense and probably even Speed (maybe some defense in ther as well). Also:
>calling a godly type combo like Dragon/Fighting terrible
If this thing was a Legendary, you wouldn't be talking.

>>29199896
>noivern is a three-stage dragon

>>29199989
>everything about it screams PSEUDO
like?

>post yfw u realize every pseudo besides Dragonite & T-Tar is UU
>Even Volcarona, with a quad rocks weakness, outclasses most of them
>Metagross is only relevant because of its incredible mega

Why are pseudos always dragon-type & terrible?

>>29199730
>psychic
Pffffffffffft, good joke.

>>29200097
>>post yfw u realize every pseudo besides Dragonite & T-Tar is UU
garchomp??

>>29199889
> It can't be Wimpod
Because if GF has done anything with Sun and Moon, it's follow old ways

>>29199730
I hope he won't be the pseudo at all
Why can't we have non-Dragon pseudos again
Tyranitar and Metagross are lonely

>>29200142
Well, if that's your argument it could be Jangmo-o too.

Nothing will be worse than Goodra. Was that even supposed to be a pseudo-legendary? Aegislash felt much more like a pseudo-legendary than that fucking pile of shit.

>>29200097
>Grachomp
>UU
Literally what.

But that aside, it's kinda easy to explain:
-Dragonite has Multiscale which helped it enormously
-T-Tar despite being weak to half the pokedex has goid stats and Sand Stream helps with its SpDef
-Salamence is only relevant now cause its godly Mega, but iys base form suffers cause Ice Shard is a thing and doesn't have much bulk.
-Garchomp I don't need to explain
-Metagross got nerfed with Steel not resisting Dark and Ghost anymore
-Hydreigon's biggest pronlem is its Speed, if it has over 100 it would be guaranteed OU
-Goodra in simplify bad cause its defense oriented on a type that's supposed to more offense oriented and it doesn't have a secondary type to help it play the role of a wall like Water.

>>29199730
I doubt he's the Pseudo. They have never revealed a Pseudo before the game came out. It's still possible, but I don't think so.

>>29200052
People assumed he would be a three stage pseudo when he was revealed

Just like when Haxorus was revealed

>pokemon potentially isn't very good against a specific combination of types
>THIS POKEMON SUCKS I HATE IT BLUBLUBLU

At this point I want Kommo to have great speed and several high power Steel moves just so dummies will shut up about how it is made "useless" because it doesn't match up well against the type that was made specifically to counter it.
But even if it doesn't do well against fairy and psychic, at what point does it become impossible to switch out? Arena Trap Gardevoir?

>>29200260
The problem with Goodra is actually that it doesn't have means of reliable recovery. Pure Dragon with that SpDef is terrific. It would've been a top-notch counter to things like Gengar and Mega Charizard Y and Volcanion with Recover, to give it a good place in OU.

>>29200392
The only real reason I can think of why people here see this type combo bad is cause no one on /vp/ knows how or when to swithch. Literally look at /tr/ainers battles, its like Arena Trap is a field effect, not anymore an ability.

>>29199730
Hy. Drei. Gon.

>>29200396
To this day, I'm still wondering why they never gave it Recover. Gastrodon gets it, why not Goo.dra to ?

And Carbink, yeah Bullet Punch Scizor rapes its life, but if it had actual recovery, it would be a far better wall then the "meh" mon it is now

>>29200392
Exactly! It's like no one on 4chan switches out

>>29199730
I expect it to be really slow and fail miserably. Shitty design too.

>>29200392
Reminder that the same people you're talking about also thought that Cloud Nine Golduck was an amazing counter against Primal Groudon.

>>29199935
>Worse than Goodra
Try again, Anon

Unless this thing has high speed, it will be trash. Physical attackers are too common and this thing will be lost in the shuffle. If it's alittle too strong, it'll go to Ubers, where it'll become worthless because of MegaKanga, Primal Groudon, Primal Kyogre and Fairy-Arceus

>>29200618
It was in VGCDoubles. It was an OHKO with Hydro Pump and 85% with Scald

>>29199985

Jangmo-o is found on the second route. I sincerely doubt it's the pseudo.

>>29199730
Dragon/fighting isn't near as abysmal a typing as Rock/Dark, and Ttar's still among the kings of the meta.

If it gets dragon dance it's pretty much going to be the same as a non-mega Salamence, not terrible but not rocking the top of the OU either.

>>29200754
>Muh patterns

>>29200848
>giving the pseudo that fucking early into the game
It's got nothing to do with patterns anon. They wouldn't do a non-distribution mon that powerful that early.

Demo confirms its not pseudo

>>29200956
>assuming
>muh patterns

>>29199730
>People still think that having stab fighting and dragon moves is a bad thing.

>>29200754
>2nd Route level 27
Sure

>>29199730
kys autist

>>29199997
You may find it funny but what the second guy said is true.
If Kommo-o learn iron head and it equiped with scarf ( or if it is able to set up dragon dance before Gardevoir comes out), Kommo-o will easiely OhKO Gardevoir.
The true threat for Kommo-o is latios, but we have 6 pokemon in our team after all, right anon?

>>29200006
>manlet
>immune to waifus
>insane attack stat
He is /fit/ the pokemon

This gen will have FOUR new pseudos

>>29200848
>>29201021
Yeah actually finding new ways to be awful at game design is something I'd expect Game Freak to do

>retype Haxorus to Fighting and give it Close Combat
>252+ Atk Life Orb Mold Breaker Haxorus Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 175-207 (52.3 - 61.9%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
>that's the extent of a STAB neutral hit from Dragon/Fighting on the biggest physical wall

It has a lot of potential. It'll be far from shit.

>>29200067
Dragon

>>29199730
Its been confirmed it is found in a 2nd route cave early on so actually, it wont be the pseudo. Still the worst new dragon tho.

>>29200754
>>29200961
DE
MO

You retards would believe anything thrown at you. Also:
>you can catch Bagon in XY before the second gym
Yeah, it's clearly not the Pseudo.

>>29201393
>>29201411

>>29201393
Cave on the 2nd route but it's level 27, ok. So from the start you get a level 5 starter and between 2 routes you gain 20 levels.

>>29201411

I legitimately did not know this and had to check it out. Then again, I remember so little of X and Y. . .

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>>29199730

>>29199730
He looks like an old african spear chucking tribe nigger, so yes.

>>29201411
it isn't the pseudo of XY

Goodra is

>>29199879
Hydreigon is the best fucking Pokémon you autist end your life no one would care if your alive since you have shit taste you loser faggot kill yourself and komo o is obvious second best dragon

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>>29201803
Spoken like a true buttmad baby unovabortion. Having fun down there in UU you little squirming cucklet? Your fucking shitty edgy muppet dragon is such a joke that people unironically ship it with an eeveelution.

>>29199730
>psyquic
Stay in school, kid.

>>29200747
yeah and groudon outspeeds and oneshots it

>>29200006
>Quad zeros

>>29201906
>What is Fake out

>>29201802
They gave you a Bagon before the second gym, it doesn't change anything.

Also, please answer me these questions:

-Why can you encounter Gible at level 15-17 in DP if it's the big, bad Pseudo ?

-How can you reach from Lv.5 to Lv.20+ in the spam of two routes ?

>>29201928
That's not how quads work you dipshit, kill yourself

>>29199889
>the pseudo has never been announced before release
>it might be this pokemon announced before release

>>29199730
It's still a big deal.
>Can switch into Hyper Voice
>Proceeds to KO with Poison Jab

>>29202269
welcome to nu/vp/, when nubs works.

>>29199969
A 150 base attack bullet punch without STAB will not OHKO a Gardevoir

>>29202366
252 Atk Kommo-o Bullet Punch vs. 16 HP / 8 Def Mega Gardevoir: 136-162 (48.3 - 57.6%) -- 93.4% chance to 2HKO

>>29201855
For the record, lo hydreigon and scarf hydreigon are trash, but specs hydreigon has a real niche in OU.

>>29202045
>Muh pokemon rulebook
Patterns don't dictate shit.

>>29202325
>Opponent switches out

>>29202300
Where did I say the 2nd part of that?

Oh, I didn't. You're just a moron.

It's either Jangmo-o/Wimpod or neither.

>>29202563
>into klefki

>A Pokemon has weaknesses, so it's bad
???

>yfw it's fast

>>29202757
>Unown used hidden power fairy

>>29202737
>Kommo-o used earthquake

>>29199967
They showed Zygarde fighting Garchomp, I guess Zygarde is a pseudo too

>>29202737
You mean mimikyu

>>29199935
>Salamence
>UU
try again, OUshitter

>>29200097
>Salamence

>>29199996
>its on the edge of being sent to ubers
>we dont even know its bst yet

jesus, you people.

Inb4 the actual pseudo is this mysterious darkness kommo-o trains it whole life to fight
Inb4 it's dark ghost

>>29199967
Crabrawler was shown "OHKO"ing Mega Kang, Cresselia, Mega-mence, and more in its Worlds trailer through editing.

Crabrawler confirmed Ubers.

>>29202045
since you're so into 'muh patterns'

since when has GF ever revealed all three stages of the gen's pseudo before the game was released?

hell, the entire Goodra line was kept hidden.

>>29203247
Not into paterns, was pointing out stuff people simply glance over in this demo (you would understand if you read the questions together).

And yes I know about the entire thing with Pseudos not being shown before release, but again, just cause a DEMO showcased this doesn't mean anything significant.

Also, why is everyone so sure they won't show the pseudo now just cause they didn't in the past ? Everyone was saying Gyms won't ever be removed, but look what happened. But then again, I learned to not take /vp/ seriously considering this is the board that said Mudsdale won't have a pre-evo.

I'd rather have bulletproof. That ability has some versatility other than hyper voice blocker. Especially if it has any bulk going for it. Just don't keep it in on fairies. Same as any ×4 weakness.

>TFW Wimpod is the Pseudo

>>29202772
Speaking of. Do you think they'll make that a thing now?

>ITT:People who don't know about competitive

>>29203024
Its BST is 600.

>>29202777
klefki had levitate.

>>29204196
>playing a rng game "competitively"

>>29202269
>two 2s
GUYS

>>29203405
>Especially if it has any bulk going for it.
I thought it was confirmed to be a lightweight?

>>29202699
Not that guy but your second statement contradicts your argument cause both were revealed before release
So you can't really say wimpod/jangmo-o, or neither if you believe the pseudo isn't revealed before release

>>29199998
Nice not quints.
where my >>29199999 at?

>>29201855
you like to suck dick.

>>29203397
there is a difference between a pseudo that debuted in that gen and one that was introduced in that gen though.

not to mention X/Y kinda fucked the entire typical mon distribution by somehow squeezing in 400+ mons in a single dex - something that was complained about incessantly even outside of /vp/. You don't see the route 1 mons anywhere else except route one which wasn't the case in any other game either.

>>29199934
>dat sexism against 100% female species
I bet you love Tauros so much that you would give it a bj, wouldn't you?

>>29202391
You just proved his point, retard.

>>29199967
I think it's based on some Hawaiian legend of a warrior lizard dragon thing that killed a shark.

>>29205068
I meant that either the pattern is broken (meaning it could be either, in theory) or it isn't and the real pseudo won't be seen until post-release.

>>29199989
You sound like a newfag. Welcome to /vp/

If this ugly thing turns out to be the pseudo, then yes, it is the worst pseudo.

>>29205801
Worse than Dragonite and Tyrantitar? Nah.

>>29205858
Yes. Worse than them. There's a reason why this thing is not the pseudo.

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>>29205801
>Jangmo-o
>Ugly

Pick one

>>29205801
>actually saying it will be worse then Goodra
Delete your save file now.

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>>29199996
>If it gets Dragon Dance, which signs are pointing to from its flavor text, it will be OU at least. It's far from the worst. It's on the edge of being sent to Ubers.
Yes due to its STAB combination as well as potential coverage moves, if it seems to be already unwallable, If it gets Dragon Dance then it will very likely be OU!

>>29200260
>but iys base form suffers cause Ice Shard is a thing and doesn't have much bulk.
Nah it suffers because there are better Dragon Dancers like ZardX and Dragonite.

>>29206074
79 points of BST and Fighting type make a big difference.

Rock on the physical side is too inaccurate and leaves Tyrantrum vulnerable to being halted by the various defensive Steel and Ground types, or even checked by the typical Scarf Lando-T or Scarf Excadrill.

Kommo-o would be halted by Fairies and select Ghost types, although coverage in Poison Jab or Iron Head can be handier since Fairies generally lean toward SpDef. Checking it would come in the form of Talonflame which can be pressured by Stealth Rock. Bulletproof can mean it can even potentially set up on Ferrothorn given the resist to Power Whip.

>>29206614
Tyrantrum is literally unwallable and if it was a pseudo the missing BST would simply go to SpAtk and SpD since all pseudos tend to have a nice SpAtk.
Offensively Tyrantrum is very likely to be the same as Kommo-o the only thing that will decide whether Kommo-o is RU trash like Tyrantrum is its speed, if it's slower than Haxorus then it's doomed.

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Haka Mo'o is literally war dance dragon, so dragon dance better happen.
The haka (plural haka, as in Māori, so in English) is a traditional war cry, dance, or challenge from the Māori people of New Zealand. It is a posture dance performed by a group, with vigorous movements and stamping of the feet with rhythmically shouted accompaniment.[1]

War haka were originally performed by warriors before a battle, proclaiming their strength and prowess in order to intimidate the opposition, but haka are also performed for various reasons: for welcoming distinguished guests, or to acknowledge great achievements, occasions or funerals, and kapa haka performance groups are very common in schools.
And for those wondering why it got a Maori name, it's because football teams and shows like to do it in Hawaii as well. Not usually with the same amount of enthusiasm/ menace, but it still happens.

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>>29199935
>implying height makes a difference at all in competitive
come on, you aren't being serious are you? just because you're butthurt it's not a tower has literally nothing to do with whether or not it'll be good.

>>29206705
>252+ Atk Life Orb Tyrantrum Outrage vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Hippowdon: 187-220 (44.5 - 52.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Don't doubt the hippo.

>>29205932
Got anymore gifs like that of him?

>>29199730
Well memed xD

>>29206978
Now try Choice Band
Hippo still walls it if 252+ def , only Hippo Full Def Mega Bro and Dialga can survive the 2h KO and even then it depends on rolls

>>29205932
Cool. He looks like a 140 base atk sort of guy.

>>29207025
Yeah I already checked. The rolls are in hippo's favor unless rocks are up.

>>29205932
>get that shit outta here

>>29199730
>What is dazzling gleam

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>>29199730
>>29199730
>4x weakness to fighting
>60 Speed
FUCK, why is this pokemon so SHIT

>>29207209
>Kommo-o has glittering scales
>inb4 it learns Dazzling Gleam
>it learns how to kill itself

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>>29201928
Those are singles.

>>29207234
>The strongest pursuit in the fucking game as well as 5 billion support options, an immunity and lots of resists
Not even comparable. Why do sub 1700 elo post on /vp/?

>>29207375
It's the "4x meme" if you haven't realised it by now.

>people implying is a physical attacker just because is a fighting pokemon

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>>29207375
I-It was a joke Anon. . .

>>29207827
S-sorry.

>>29199730
It's known for punching and has got metal chains all over its body.
It's getting bullet punch, bare minimum, likely also iron tail or even, considering the giant crest, iron head.

Your fairies are countered by coverage.

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>>29201928
Welcome to 4chan

>>29199836
Noivern, goodra, only 70.

>>29208006
noivern isnt a pseudo

>>29200097
>yfw u realize every pseudo besides Dragonite & T-Tar is UU
Metagross

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>>29208006
>Noivern
>3 stage

>>29208052
regular metagross is uu

>>29207375
Machop used Mega Kick!
Tyranitar fainted!

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>>29209988
>Mega Kick
>Tyranitar fainted

>>29209988
I...but...
Mega Kick is a NORMAL type attack though, Anon. Tyranitar would have a x0.5 resistance to mega kick. Without stab, type advantage, or a full evolution this whole scenario seems very truly unlikely.

>kommo-o needs to learn iron head meme

POISON JAB

>>29211127
>That's enough, Gardevoir!
>It's your turn, Magearna!
>Kommo-O used Poison Jab!
>Magearna is immune!
>Magearna used Moonblast!
>It's Super Effective!
>Kommo-O fainted!
>SOUL HEART!
>Magearna's Special Attack raised one stage!

I can't see anyone using Poison Jab on Kommo-O unless you want to hand the win to Scarf Magearna to be honest

>>29211127
>>29211600
>again, implying is a physical attacker

>>29211600
>That's enough, Gardevoir!
>It's your turn, Magearna!
>Kommo-o used Poison Jab!
>Magearna is immune!
>That's enough, Kommo-o!

literally do you know the rules of this video game

>>29201348
>Kingdra the Pseudo
>Flygon the Pseudo
>Altaria the Pseudo
>Latias the Pseudo
>Latios the Pseudo
>Rayquaza the Pseudo
>Dialga the Pseudo
>Palkia the Pseudo
>Giratina the Pseudo
Arceus-Dragon the Pseudo
>Haxorus the Pseudo
>Druddigon the Pseudo
>Reshiram the Pseudo
>Zekrom the Pseudo
>Kyurem the Pseudo
>Dragalge the Pseudo
>Tyrantrum the Pseudo
>Noivern the Pseudo
>Zygarde the Pseudo
>Turtonator the Pseudo
>Exeggutor the Pseudo
Silvadi-Dragon the Pseudo

2/10 apply yourself

>>29199730
Tyranitar exists.

>Tyranitar has 4x weakness to fighting