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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/story/
[PV1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_2ADXIyEa4
[PV2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mIJnSG3YqM
[PV3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xawFb1MoWio
[PV4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPj5Db8JqGg
[PV5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCVWBQP7JCQ

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS
Excerpt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMWw5xiwW8

Next episode:
>XY&Z46: Farewell, Ash Greninja! Xerosic Strikes Back!! [Oct 20]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBKrUh_LP7M

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z47: A Zero With No End! Till the Day we Meet Again!! [Oct 27]
>XY&Z Special: The Legend of XYZ! [Nov 3]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Never give up until the very end.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>29176462
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XY&Z41 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_041_Attack_on_Miare_Gym!_The_Citroid_Forever!![H264_720P][8EC6EDD1].mkv.torrent

XY&Z24 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_024_The_Forest's_Curse_and_the_White_Bokurei!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][367AC198].mkv.torrent

XY&Z42/43 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=850249

XY&Z44 RAW:
http://pocketmonstersraws.fansub-torrents.com/[PM-RAW]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_044_We_Start_at_Zero!_Citron's_Decision!![H264_720P][1086E7BD].mkv.torrent

XY&Z45 RAW:
http://pocketmonstersraws.fansub-torrents.com/[PM-RAW]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_045_One_Last_Battle_with_Satoshi!_Serena's_Choice!![H264_720P][24B7451C].mkv.torrent

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z46: FAREWELL, SATOSHI GEKKOUGA! XEROSICY STRIKES BACK!! (OCTOBER 20TH)
>Citron has been abducted by Xerosicy! It appears Xerosicy is trying to form a new Neo Flare Gang. Will Satoshi, Pikachu and the other Pokémon be able to retrieve Citron!?

>Summary:
>Satoshi and his friends have parted ways with Numelgon. On their way back, they are attacked by the giant plants that were breaking out during the Flare Gang incident. Satoshi defeated the giant plants with the mysterious powers of Satoshi Gekkouga. But then Xerosicy appeared and ended up abducting Citron! For what reason did he do this...?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Hitomi Nabatame: Harimaron
>Tsuguo Mogami: Xerosicy
>Chiemi Ishimatsu: Junsa
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 55 (Oct 23rd)

XY&Z47: A Zero With No End! Till the Day we Meet Again!! (Oct 27th)
>Ash and his friends finally decide to part ways in order to walk their own respective paths. At the airport, the group promises to meet again one day. But when it is almost time to board the plane, Dedenne runs away. The young Dedenne doesn't want to part with everyone.

XY&Z Special: The Legend of XYZ! (Nov 3rd)
>A special episode that approaches the mystery of the legendary Pokémon from the era spoken of in Kalos' myths. Sycamore and Alexa visit some ruins that were recently discovered in the Kalos region. The stone statues discovered in these ruins may be the key to solving the mystery of the myth concerning the legendary Pokémon.

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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>Satoshi~
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I can't believe we're getting 3 new female companions at once. People will now have to re-order their favorite female character list. This is overwhelming, I don't know how I can compare these 3 girls to the 5 older ones.

How is this going to work?
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Long hair Serena best Serena.
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>>29185263
Fuck off with your pasta, Scott.
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Does Serena still love Ash?
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>>29185250
Cute.
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>>29185206
But using the same plot over and over again is bad writing. If they'd had more Tripokalons with more different plots then it might have been OK, but as it was it was just lazy.

Add this to the seemingly obvious Ash crossdressing episode that practically wrote itself that they didn't do and Serena both not going with Yashio and dropping performances altogether and they end up being a big waste. Not to mention some designs like Marril Girl and Munchlax Girl going to waste through lack of screentime.
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Can you PLEASE stop! We just want a regular thread that's has nothing to do about shipping
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>>29185344
Ash x Lana
Kiawe x Mallow
Kukui x Lillie
Sophocles x his rat

This will be canon.
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>>29185263
>compare
That's a mistake, just enjoy pokegirls for what they are.
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Gary in the last episode of XY&Z

Lets make it happen
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>>29185338
She's not even dropping performances what the fuck are you talking about
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>>29185376
She's going to do Contests. That's not the same thing.
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>>29185257
>Ash -> Robinhoot and Torracat
>Lana -> Brionne
>Kiawe -> Charizard
>Mallow -> Tsareena

The leaked starters have Ash with Litten3 so he's most likely evolving it all the way

The owl is going to Hau
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>>29185370
Makes sense, Oak family reunion.
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>>29185366
I'd like to, but years of Misty fans trying to champion her over May or Dawn, etc. triggered me.
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Really?

They really put this in my Pokemon anime?

>>29185323

We will see when she says goodbye. If she is like Dawn and basically left with a smile on her face then no, if she is like Misty and cries then yes
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>>29185399
>Pikachu Rowlet and Ash literally with the same lighting in the series poster
>Not thinking Ash is getting rowlet
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>>29185399
I find it weird that Kiawe wouldn't get Litten when it matches his color scheme so well.
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>>29185430
Dawn nearly cried when the boat pulled away from her.
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Rate my wife.
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>>29185398
She going to do them to improve as a performer.

I think you should wait for subs, since you clearly misunderstood the entire thing.
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>>29185440
He always gets the fast one
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>>29185444
The same could be said of rowlet since Mallow is the grass type trainer but we know Ash is going to get at least one starter.
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>>29185476
>subs

Like that's ever going to happen.
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>>29185398
Yes, but it's just for getting experience
She is not an experienced battler after all, and Yashio literally tells her she wants to see her new performances after Serena returns to Kalos
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>>29185489
>Turtwig

Granted chicharito took over
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>>29185468
>Short hair.
>No sclera.
>Stick legs.
4/10
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>>29185504
We just got new subs a couple days ago, shitposter-kun
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>>29185515
>Chicharito

I meant chimchar, my /sp/ shitposting is leaking
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>BW was an OS clone
>XY was an AG clone
>SM won't be a DP clone, which would possibly make it the best pokémon series ever
Someone needs to get fired
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Will we get new Jennys and Joys?
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>>29185468
Cute/10
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>>29185557
Probably dark-skinned Jennys and Joys, because Alola is tropical.

Comfey will be the Pokemon Nurse of the Region.
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>>29185524
We've already got a daughter. She drew the short straw from both of us in the eye department. She has no sclera like her mother and her eyesight is shit like mine.

She's still a qt though.
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>>29185557
Probably
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>>29185557
>brown jenny/joy
I hope so.
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>>29185385
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IKE PIKACHU!
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>>29185587
Can I fuck you Serena?
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>Ash will get rowlet and pikipek
Oh boy more flying types.
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>>29185588
I'm glad Pikachu gets to do some cool and flashy moves now alongside Ash now.

He deserves it after getting cucked by Greninja for the entirety of XY&Z, which only led to the frog jobbing while Pika carried the whole team in the league, even without any special snowflake bullshit.
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>>29185536
I want to play with a chimchar called Chicharito now.
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>>29185646
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>>29185370
I wish this could happen, I know fujos would love it.
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>>29185585
>>29185573

I do like what Orange Islands did to their brown Joy
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>>29185499
Nah, May wasn't sad at all really. Probably because May wanted to strike out on her own and she wasn't as attached to Ash anymore by the end of AG.
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>>29185203
That would be so sad
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>>29185769
It doesn't sound sad at all.
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>>29185191
It was a really nice ride, sad it end in 2 weeks
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>>29185769
>>29185796
(you)
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XYZ goodbye episode scene leaked
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>>29185796
i mean sad for everyone that want serena to confess or atleast a hug
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Haha time without posting any kisarasmoon drawings.
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>>29185811
In your dreams
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That time again, huh?
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CILAN WHEN
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Which one of the new legendaries will appear first in the SM anime?
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never forget
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>>29185824
Its what we are probably going to get sadly

Very odd to look back at how much they pushed amour through out the series only to just have it disappear at the end
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>>29185961
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>29185576
Mona best girl.
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>>29185906
Solgaleo.
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>>29186001
>Fuck off Scott maymay

Ok Scott, what ever you say
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Will Ash finally bring back one his older pokemon? This region is filled with pokemon from Kanto.
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>>29185961
I'll be happy if she says: "Next time we meet I'm gonna rape you"
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https://twitter.com/stsrchkimee

Interesting?
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>>29186140
Wonder what she said? "I'm not done with you yet Satoshi!"
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>>29186216
>a twitter bot account dedicated to post pokémon shipping shitposts from a japanese imageboard
The internet was a mistake.
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>>29186140
>>29186228
She obviously says something retarded like "once am back we are finishing that Battle"
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>>29185557
Even though shes not dark skinned this Joy would be cute for Alola.
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>>29185906
It'll probably be like XY with the first movie being about Solgaleo and Lunalaa.
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>>29186303
>fan_made
I wouldn't mind the current joy but with a darker skin.
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>>29186299
"Battle"
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>>29186139

He didn't bring back anything this time around, I doubt they want to keep pandering. They may do like they did in BW and bring them back in the post tournament
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>>29186327
Marshadow will probably be the Darkrai/Victini/Diancie eventmon that's paired with the cover legendaries for no reason.
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>>29185191
Why don't those Pokemon have their own sleeping bags or just sleep in their Pokeballs?
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What was the point of this childhood meme?

Like its cute as fuck but a complete waste if you are just going to throw all of it away in the end.
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>>29186003
She would be if she didn't keep filling my house with tat. It's nice that she's so generous but I would much prefer a cheque.
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>>29186437
Ash didn't bring his old mons back because he said it wouldn't feel right. And that he wanted to use his Kalos Team through the League to end this journey.
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>>29186787
>a complete waste if you are just going to throw all of it away in the end
Literally the whole Pokemon anime
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>>29185191
So who's hoping that Ash will catch a mistreated Type: Null for his team, evolving it to Silvally from kindness.
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>>29186787
It's sad that Serena never built up the courage to confess. It's almost like she didn't want to risk it and just stayed satisfied being in the friendzone.
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>>29186903
>It's almost like she didn't want to risk it and just stayed satisfied being in the friendzone.

Its almost like the writers either got cold feet or were forced to avert towards the end and her not wanting to ruin their friendship is the bullshit they came up with to hide the fact they couldnt really do anything with it.
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>>29186853
But that will be Gladio's pokemon.
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>>29185588
Requesting this as the next thread's OP pic.
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>>29186903
Yeah it's also sad that Ash never built up the skill over the last 20 years to win 1 (one) league
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GUESS THE FINAL GOALS OF THE S&M NAKAMA
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>>29186957
Lillie: Pokemon professor
Sophocles: Inventor
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>>29186952
but that's mainly due to the fact he is constantly changing of teams each new region instead of bringing his strongest pokemon.
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Have we see any shots of Ash exposing his midriff in Alola?
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>>29186957
Lillie: becoming Kukui's assistant (something like Bianca)
The rest: becoming trial captains
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>>29186933
pic related was so pointless in the recent episode. What exactly was it supposed to be for?
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>>29186957
Lillie: Researcher
The rest will become trial captains.
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>>29187080
A cute moment?
Why am I seeing this picture with the same question in every thread?
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>>29187139
Just to remind us she likes him? For what? You're not going to have her confess.
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>tfw no dance
>tfw no hug as an apology to Serena when they fought, and ash slowly falling for her
>tfw no Serena saving Ash, to show how much she has grown
>tfw no ash notices this growth and falls for Serena
>tfw no childhood flashback and pottery moment during this saving
>tfw no end game
So much potential. So much fucking potential.
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>>29187080
It was pretty bad compared to what they usually did for amour moments. Earlier she probably would have been orgasming just by the though of Ash grabbing her by the arm.
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>>29187080
Maybe to show that she still feel something for Ash due to nearly 20 episodes without blushing or something like that
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>>29187159
>tfw no hug as an apology to Serena when they fought, and ash slowly falling for her

Now that you point this out I realize how fucking perfect this would have been, but I also realize that all of this is probably way too much for a kids show.
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>>29187160
Eh, I'd say it was on par. Her blush when she tried to hold Ash's hand back in the date was small too.

Nothing will be as extreme as pic related though.
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>>29187197
>>29187239
/padt/ would have exploded, stale probably would be dead too.
Like, literally it turns into amour general.
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Reminder that Ash will be forever known as The Neverending Zero
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Why is so funny to hear Ash saying Alola in these trailers?
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>>29187268
It's been amour general for 3 years now.
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>>29186139
>Will Ash finally bring back one his older pokemon? This region is filled with pokemon from Kanto.
Watch it be his Muk
>Everyone complains about the smell because Alolan Muks don't stink
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>>29187197
So much potential wasted it's really sad
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>>29187280
Because he says arora
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>>29187160
Amour was just a bunch a cute and funny gags to laugh at Serena's insecurities and shyness over her crush on Ash. It never got development in over 140 episodes. When you use the same gag near the end of the series as you used 70+ episodes ago in terms of Serena's crush, it's sad.
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>>29187281
And will remain
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>>29187280
are people actually shipping mallow with ash, mallow is taller and also older.
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>>29187355
>Not liking ss
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I'm listening the older op and ed, i feel emo as fuck
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I just want team rocket to go away forever. Can we do that? Isn't 20 years long enough? Why did the loli have to kill the red haired guy instead of team rocket? Sucks balls.
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>>29187355
keikaku doori
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>>29187355
You make it sound like Ash has never been shipped with a taller girl, and Mallow is probably two years older which is not weird either, she could also be the same age but be taller because girls hit puberty earlier.
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>>29187355
AND also cuter
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>>29187355
They are shipping all girls with Ash in fanart.
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>>29185811
In your dreams
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>>29187355
Yeah, it doesn't like weird and Ash have better chemistry with genki type of girls.
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>>29187406
>>29187407
nono, but look at her, she seems alfa, kinda like a big sister rather than a potential crush or something

Misty was taller too but their relationship was more balanced.
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>>29187411
Except Lana. Because she barely has fanart ;_;
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>>29185811
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>>29187462
>Their relationship was more balanced
>He says as the show hasn't even been released yet
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What is this new amine meme?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqH3W9fHnTo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbOAiEaxn_0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXiKva-r4IA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t24-RoZOGpw
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>>29187462
We don't know how they are going to interact and genki girls always are potential love interest, but I think their relationship will be another Ash/Dawn scenario.
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>>29186003
Did you know that in Japan Mona is voiced by Pikachu? Shit's true.
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>>29187504
>those thumbnails
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>>29187462
S&M won't have any romance-related hints, mark my words. Mallow will be the big sis and the rest will be good 'friends' with ash. None of the girls will be romantically interested in Ash. I think they tried it a bit with Serena, didn't like where it was going and decided to drop this shit for good.
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>>29187462
The argument started as possible shipping, we are you talking about a crush?
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>>29187622
>anime
>about school
you do realize there is practically no way this isnt going to be a harem right?
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>>29187622
It will have romance, but it won't involve Ash
Get ready for Sophocles trying to impress Lillie by challenging Ash to a battle and losing miserably
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>>29187622
They went above and beyond teasing Ash and Serena. There might be ship stuff in Sun and Moon, but it won't be anywhere near what they did with Ash and Serena.
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haha
amourcunts of suicide watch
not a drill this time
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>>29187693
This. Ash will end up with no one,
>Sophocles/Lillie
>Kiawe/Mallow
>the eventual Hau or Gladion/Lana

This is how it'll go, mark my words.
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The less romance the better.
When I fap to porn of Mallow or Lillie the last thing I want to see is Ash, and romance in the anime makes it more likely artists draw that ship.
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>>29187622
There won't be serious romance, this is not a shoujo. If it goes the harem route I can see them throwing hints around but never do any romance because that's weird even in harem series.
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>>29187693
>Implying Kiawe won't kick Ash's ass and start fucking everybody in school, including Sophocles
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>>29187742
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What will happen if at the airport scene when Serena is boarding she take of the ribbon and put it inside her backpack
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>>29187771
Ash and Serena wasn't serious either. It was just teasing about Serena's crush on Ash.
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>>29187765
>Not fapping Satoshi dick

Are you straight or something fag?
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>>29187622
>expecting romance in a harem anime
That's not how it works.
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>>29187686
>>29187693
I think that if there is any romance, it will not involve Ash in any way.
With the rest of the class - maybe there'll be some usual Brock/Tierno obsession stuff, but it won't go anywhere. Girls will not have any crushes in S&M.
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>>29187037
Quite a bit, but SM Ash has zero sex-appeal
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>>29187800
but it made people believe it was serious.
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>>29187781
Why isn't Serena Ash only anymore?
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Yuri ships best ships
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>>29187829
>Ash
>sex appeal
Only XY Ash is close to have some sex appeal.
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>>29187829
It's not like you don't know about /ss/.
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I want to bully Serena
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Anybody thinking they're gonna ship Ash with any girl is fucking delusional. That shit is never happening again unless its 10 years later and the show is still going.

>but but muh school setting
if any romance shit does happen then it'll be between the other characters, not Ash
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>>29187925
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>>29187771
There's not going to be a harem. Don't get your hopes up, anon. Characters will be 10 yr olds with the sole interest of catching and battling some pokemon.
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>>29187984
That's why I said throwing hints. Harem series usually go nowhere, especially the comedy centered ones.
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>>29187953
Is her face trying to convey pain or pleasure?
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>>29187953
If you are Ash it's okay
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>>29187908
This desu
Give me subtext between Mallow and Lana
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>>29188019
>hints
a running gag at best
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>>29187896
Serena will always be Ash only, sorry anon
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>>29187981
There is almost always a girl interested on Ash. Why are you so angry? It's the banter getting to ya? BW didn't have one and that's about it.
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>>29187983
He looks like a dwarf

What did Serena even see in this nigger
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>>29188051
Ash only, THATS right.
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>>29188058
It's called childhood crush, ever heard of it?
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>>29188098
Sounds gay
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>>29188074
Wow, Ash sure let himself go.
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>>29188058

>>29188074
Disgusting
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>>29188120
Why? Those crushes are mostly a phase.
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>>29188098
You must admit, Serena steaming over Ash was a bit over the top. >>29187253
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I saw this on tumblr, do you guys agree with the descriptions of the main girls in this pic?

http://purimpopoie.tumblr.com/post/151850094142/choco-chip-kitty-tag-yourself-im-dragon
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>>29185191
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pls no bully serena
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>>29188159
Not really, that's average at best. If pokemon audience weren't children you would see panty shots but even that is normal in anime.
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XY Gang is best gang
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>>29188132
He looks perfect in that pic
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>>29188186

Meh, its okay
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>>29187355
It's called /ss/
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>>29188193
Cute
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>>29188186
Fuck off.
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>>29188223

They were fun, I feel bad they are breaking up

I like them as much as I like Brock and Misty
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>>29187622
There's obviously gonna be romance. It's in a school setting and school crushes are inevitable. It's a romcom
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>>29188202
Too late.
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>>29188225
His XY design is the best
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>>29188252
Is this bait?
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Here's a good 3rd year anniversary art T B H
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>>29188254
It's a pokemon anime. Romance = running gag at best.
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>>29188279
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>>29188193
This is qt and comfy at the same time, i will miss XY gang
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>>29188279
Also I remembered masuda talking about romance in games.

He said that there will be a romance element in SM as he has been experimenting it too in the past games (ORAS, XY and B2W2)
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>>29188058
Because Ash changed her life.
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>>29188273
Why would it be?
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>>29188274
Next OP ?
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>>29185536
Fucking /sp/ m8.
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>>29188292
May crush on Drew was nowhere near as pushed as Serena's was on Ash, but they were both treated as gags.
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>>29188292
DELETE THIS
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>>29188354
Probably because the original trio was never interesting during Johto.
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I miss Iris
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>>29188331
>He said that there will be a romance element
>n a few years pokemon will have dating sim elements like persona series
I hope not, that would destroy the fanbase.
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>>29188252
Jesus christ BW art style really wrecks Brock's design
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>>29188364
They literally stopped just short of a confession. Likely because the writers wanted to give Advanceshippers some leeway and not canonly pair May off. The fact that we know May and Drew will always be rivals off-screen, and May didn't turn Drew down like Dawn did with Kenny...says a lot.
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>>29188254
That's even worse. Instead of breaking one heart with Serena, now Ash gets to break the collective hearts of a whole school's worth of girls.
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>>29188331
That's Pokemon Amie
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>>29188389
No, you don't.
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>>29188379

What about Johto? They have other places they have traveled you know?
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>>29188331
>Also I remembered masuda talking about romance in games.

He also at some point said that he did not want too much romance because it would "distract from catching pokemon". So yeah, running gag at best, and Ash will always be oblivious about it.
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>>29188399
And yet, nothing about their subplot was brought up in May's cameo. Only about how Drew and Harely were beating her ass. Kenny was actually the only character to actually try and DO something about his crush( at least Dawn called him cool when he beat Ash, and said they'd meet again).
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>>29188414
Yes, I do. I loved her voice, her sass, and almost every episode focused on her was nice. Her rival was also pretty hot.

Stay triggered.
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>>29188458
Her voice was the only good thing about her, I will give you that.
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>>29188448
They showed them watching her performance in the Wallace Cup, they didn't need to go any further. May's cameo wasn't about her ship, it was about her, and helping Dawn get out of her losing streak.

Not to mention the kids who were watching DP at the time may have never seen AG, so they wouldn't even know what that ship was.
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>>29188406
Three girls is a school worth of girls?
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>>29188491

May was a lot stronger in terms of personality than she was when she started AG. I think her ship stuff is on the side and no big deal considering how happy she is
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>>29188252
This got me thinking:

How would you all react if Brock returned in the Sun/Moon arc as a teacher for Ash throughout the arc itself?
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>>29188542
I wouldn't mind seeing him, but I think the chances of Brock appearing after having no appearance in the last two gens to be slim to none.
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>>29188491
>>29188399
Still it all remains behind the scenes. Subtle hints, the rest is fanfic. Serena&Ash was the furthest they've gone in the series, and even there they got rid of everything by the end of XY&Z and left only subtle hints.
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>>29188542

Fucking time to chase some ladies
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>>29188584
You can technically say every main girl, except maybe Iris, had something of a brief shipping subplot.

Dawn's was less because she had no interest in romance, but the writers threw hints for Zoey, Kenny, Conway, and some for Ash along the way.
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A red, white and blue color palette would have been much better for Ash-Greninja.
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>>29188709
I've always hated Greninja's random cream/yellow color, actually. It even ruins the basic form's design.
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>>29188785
It should have kept Frogadier's colors.
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>>29187504
There is something wrong with those thumbnails.
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>>29187692
Wonder what nips think about the new trailer.
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New region, new opportunity steal some pokemon!
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>>29188922

Remember that they are fickle and will always rate things lower than the rest of us
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>>29188922
Some of them must be disappointed that Mallow is the main girl.
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>>29188922
I can see a lot of "ああああああああ" with pics of Serena.
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Good night
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>mfw I LITERALLY live in hawaii
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>>29189303
Are you a qt 2D brown loli?
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>>29189303

Do animals have a Hawaiian form like pokemon do?
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Ah ah ah~
Satoshi, i love you, i love you so much ah ah~
iku IKU IKUUUUUUUUUUUU~~~
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>>29189324
Obviously

>>29189351
I've seen real yoongus and pikipek
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3 years, 3 FUCKING years
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dento when?
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>>29188922
They wanted Lillie to be the main girl but it didn't happen.
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At this point I won't see a female character as a "main girl" again unless they have their own quest that goes on throughout the saga. But that's obviously not happening.
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Serena is coming back next season
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Some Amourshippers on twitter think Serena is the most popular main girl ever, more popular than Misty/May/Dawn.
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>>29189570
They're right, Scott.
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>>29189510
3 years of idiots falling for the bait, but I was enjoying the nice animation and battles.
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>>29189570
Maybe you should stay there
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>>29189570

Do we even have poll numbers on this?
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>>29189579
Not really. Realistically Serena's popularity is probably somewhere in the middle of the main girls. If you don't care about shipping and/or don't like Amour, obviously your interest in Serena will be far less.
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>>29189597
Only the figurine poll, but that's about it
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>>29189552
You fucking wish, Serena.
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>>29189618
These polls are always skewed to whoever the main girl is. Back in 2007 Dawn was voted a popular girl among all other anime characters at the time.
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>>29189601
Realistically she probably is due to the rise of social media websites, increasing population of Earth, and renewed interest in the anime that XY temporarily brought back to the series.
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>>29189552

We didn't even get an Iris cameo in XY or XYZ. We are are less than what, 4 episodes until SM? We didn't even get any of Ash's old pokemon cameos either

I don't think Serena is coming back considering how many girls we are getting next season and considering all that has happened up till this point
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>>29189550
but that's what a main character does, a main girl is not necessarily plot relevant.
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>>29189704
Iris looks so soft.
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>>29189697
The XY anime literally had the lowest ratings of all the sagas in both Japan and the west. Even if we know people watch the show online, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say she wound up being the least watched/viewed female lead of the series thus far.

There's now a 15-20 year gap between the main girls. I don't think any girls will have as high viewership as Misty or May again. Dawn made it just in time in the mid 2000's but after that the show dipped in popularity tremendously.
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>>29189704
Thank god.
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>>29189650
Then there's no point in arguing if Serena is popular right now, because she is
I guess we'll have to wait like a year or two to know her true popularity
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>>29189743
Ratings are almost completely irrelevant to gauging success or popularity. The anime market in general is heavily dying out on TV worldwide, watching it illegally online is how most people do it. The way information catches on and spreads is vastly different than it was 16 years ago. Even watching the show isn't necessary, just exposure. And Serena has been very exposed
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>>29189089
???????
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>>29189704
>dragon trainer
>only strong pokemon isn't even kind of a dragon
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>>29185811
In my dreams
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>>29189837
>>29189837
Well social media didn't exist when the anime started, hell it didn't really kick start till 2005/2006 or so and that's when even most of AG was already over.

The anime has been airing over 20 years, but it just makes more logical sense to me that the earliest characters would be the most watched and more well known. Its been 14 years since Misty left yet she's still probably the most recognizable pokemon girl to casuals. May also wound up being the second most watched girl of the series simply because AG aired back in 2002.

I also still see the Japanese churning out new fanart for Dawn and May on an almost daily basis and their characters have been gone from the show for years.
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>>29189948
Well May just showed up in a new game.
And most new fanart of Misty is her HGSS design (which is the best anyways).
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>>29190015
well I was strictly speaking of new fanart based on anime May, not ORAS May anyway.
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>>29189837
>The anime market in general is heavily dying out on TV worldwide, watching it illegally online is how most people do it.

I wouldn't even say watching it illegally is doing it.
A lot of people wait for anime series to drop on streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, or for this genre specifically Crunchyroll and the like.
Why set aside a specific time every week, numerous times a week,
Streaming services have also facilitated peoples ability to binge watch an entire series in one go, and to do so on their time when they want to? Not on some networks often inconvenient schedule and waiting a week or more for the next installment just to get to that satisfying conclusion.

It's not just anime either. An increasingly high number of people in most firstworld nations are making the shift to streaming services for TV show and movies.
Blockbuster went out of business not because people stopped watching movies, they just found a better delivery method for them.
TV shows are now moving into that same boat. They're barely "TV" shows anymore.

If networks can't adapt to evolve to match the new, preferred way to watch? They're going to die off while the ones that do maintain a viewerbase.
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Ash is gonna job to this faggot, isn't he?
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>yfw school vs school battles happen.
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>>29190268
>chicken-chan is on another school with other trial captains
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>>29190250
He looks pretty based
And he works in a farm so he must be humble
He should be the main character
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>>29190283

>Everyone loves chicken-chan now, just like everyone loved Serena at the star of X&Y.
>Everyone hates Serena now that they've had their fill.
>Everyone will just hate chicen-chan if she has a starring roll in S&M.

I hope she doesn't show up for this very reason.
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>>29190355
Your assertion is asinine.

Dawn had way more screentime than Serena and no one hates her.

We don't hate Serena because we've "had our fill," we hate her because she's a shit character.
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>>29190355
Everyone hates Chicken-chan
She ruined a streak of perfect main Pokegirls: Dawn, Hilda, Rosa and Serena
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>>29190423
>everybody hates chicken-chan
/vp/ says otherwise
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>>29190423

But wait...If you're talking about the game girls, then why does Chicken-chan even matter?
If you don't like her, you can just customize her the same way you could with Serena.
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>>29190433
>/vp/ is one person
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>>29190423
I've never seen anyone hate Chicken-chan except salty amourcucks.
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>>29190445
I think it's probably because she looks like a fucking toddler, and you can't fix that
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I think they are protecting her from a disastrous season that SM may become. It is just like BW and OS, where the best girls where spared from the anime

>>29190423

You mean YOU hate her?
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>>29190413
>we
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>>29190495
>OS
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Why are people talking about the Chicken?
This is the anime thread
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>>29190537
why don't you filter posts anon
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F

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kYSYqEGhv4
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>>29190537
Just discussing how shit Serena is. Chicken-chan is one of many better girls.
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>>29190569
>being this delusional
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>>29190489
>I think it's probably because she looks like a fucking toddler, and you can't fix that

Have you ever seen a toddler before?
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>>29190557
What a fucking joke. Can't believe Ash's most powerful ace jobbed like a bitch, accomplished nothing and didn't even get a proper conclusion.

But wait! He's going to beat up the same smalltime villain that Clemont did!

A fucking joke.
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>>29190631
>shitposter not knowing what job means
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>>29190631
Yeah I'm also excited for him to show up in the demo anon.
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>>29190643
>retard grasping for errors where they are none

He lost because of something the plot demanded. That's jobbing.
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>>29190666
satan confirmed not knowing what to job is, I bet that's what you tell yourself when Gabriel bitchslapped you
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>>29190666
>grasping for errors
>when you did it
>even thinks jobbing is plot related

fucking redditors, go back to tvtropes
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>>29190657
>Ash's Greninja is thrown into a worm hole off screen.
>Enters a parallel dimension (The game's universe). It doesn't know this and just assumes that it's the same old world he's used to.
>Goes all the way to Alola to look for Ash, using it's ninja skills to stow away on a series of boats and planes.
>Instead of Ash, he finds a better trainer that will actually amount to something because s/he doesn't tolerate fucking failure.
>Forgets all about Ash forever once he wins the Alola equivalent of a league.
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>>29190682
>>29190709
Why don't you try to explain it so I can laugh at your stupid ass

>>29190657
The game version is even fucking dumber.

>force a complete asspull power with zero basis in the games
>never properly explain it and tease it as a next gen mechanic
>finally introduce it
>it's not even a fucking mechanic, just an ability
>it's worse than Protean
>your Greninja turns into Ash even though you're the one bonding with it, "my wife's son: the pokemon"
>it works absolutely nothing alike between the show and game, so the show version remains an asspull

What a complete fucking mess.
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>>29190770
in order to job, one has been shown that it is capable of dealing the person he has jobbed to, it never is related to plot

Ashninja has never won over Alanzard, so to say that he "jobbed" is dumb.

again, go back to tvtropes where you think your terms are right
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Why would an old man hit Bonnie?
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>>29190800
>tvtropes

oh god I want to strangle the person who made the entry "char clone"
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>>29190800
>one has been shown that it is capable of dealing the person he has jobbed to
No, it just has to be implied. And even in wrestling, where the term originates, the jobber loses because the sweaty man drama plot demands it.

The plot's direction and all the promotions did imply that Greninja could and would beat Charizard.

Stop trying to change definitions. Accept your butthurt.
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>>29190863
>No, it just has to be implied. And even in wrestling, where the term originates, the jobber loses because the sweaty man drama plot demands it.

>implied

nigga what

jobbing happens when the guy in wrestling who has beaten someone stronger than the guy he jobs to loses to said guy, like I said there is already an implication that he is stronger than the person he jobbed to

the very fact that you call Ashninja a jobber yet put a bunch of reasons why "he is shit" means he can't be a jobber to begin with

make up your damn mind, either he's weak or he's a jobber
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>>29190829
"That little bitch thinks I won't punch her face in... she's got another thing coming. I'm an old man, I do what I want!"
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Rate my husband.
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>>29190892
>put a bunch of reasons why he is shit
Please develop some basic reading comprehension you fucking dumbass.

I said he's shit in writing and game iteration, not that he's weak. Every time he lost to Charizard was because he couldn't fully control his form. Same reason he lost to the champion, whereas Alain was getting wrecked by the other champion.

Greninja won a much harder matchup against Mega Sceptile. By your logic none of Ash's Pokemon technically jobbed, which is horseshit.

You are just rationalizing after the fact when everything leading up to the fight was setting up a victory. He jobbed.
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>>29190958
Shota's Sceptile has always been trounced by Ash's Greninja. The only time he lost to the gecko was through some power strain bullshit.

And the only time that happened with Greninja was the second match. In the first match it was a legitimate loss in that while it's not the butterfly form, it was his "comfortable" water shroud state that didn't strain him, so no excuse there.

Alain didn't lose to Steven (it was interrupted), and he defeated an elite 4.

Again, to job means that he has to be shown to be properly strong and capable, but you complain about the writing that didn't show it to begin with. Same people calling it an asspull.
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>>29190999
Why didn't Manon ever participate in a Tripokalon? Why didn't Ash ever participate in a Tripokalon?
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>>29191025
>Shota's Sceptile has always been trounced by Ash's Greninja
Which only reinforces his power level considering the matchup.

The form still wasn't fully controlled, so he wasn't at his true potential.

Metagross took a super effective blast burn to the face without a scratch. He was obviously dominating him. Ash was matching the champion with an imperfect form so it logically follows that he's at least E4 level, going by your own "stronger opponent" logic.

Again, he lost a fight that he shouldn't have for plot reasons. That's jobbing.
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>>29191071

They are battlers and not performers
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I want pablo to leave.
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New thread:

>>29191124
>>29191124

Remain here until the image limit if you so desire.
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>>29191088
are you seriously telling me Shota is more competent than Alain? lmao

also why do people forget Xzard is neutral, and most of Greninja's attacks are fighting/flying with water shuriken more of a clutch

And yet it was shown Gardevoir could still fight afterwards, even with a heavy breath. Also it was pre-training with 10 mega-enemies Zard X.

He lost to the fight because of higher executives, but that doesn't make it jobbing. To make Greninja job, at least show him win a match of Charizard, or have him defeat an elite 4 too.
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>>29191143
>Xzard is neutral
Whereas M-Sceptile is 4x resistant.

Not just the type matchup but the fact that Ash was beating his ass the entire fight, then lost to a move that he easily countered earlier in the match. It was jobbing no matter how you look at it.

By your logic Hawlucha didn't job to Slaking, because there is no clear indication of a harder win.
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>>29191131
Oh look, it's this retard again.
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>>29191207
Hawlucha jobbed to Slacking but that's because that's point for point the idea.

And what, Ash and Alain were even footing with each other with their fight, it was only at the end where Ash lost
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>>29191207
>beating his ass the entire fight
Not him but stop trying to change what happened. They both got 2 knockdowns each. The writers made sure that it was equal until the final exchange.

>dragon claw knockdown
>aerial ace knockdown
>dragon claw sent Greninja flying back even through its defense
>water shuriken sent Charizard sliding back a little
>equal exchange of their best moves with both sides choosing to go all out instead of defending

>lost to a move that he easily countered earlier in the match
It's almost as if Ash made a decision to go for the finishing move instead of defending. He didn't command Greninja to slam the water shuriken on the ground like before because he expected the next attack will win him the match. He was wrong because Charizard was tougher on an exchange. By the way, Alan also decided to go for his finishing move instead of trying to defend the water shuriken. You might not have noticed but the match was structured in a very clear way with both sides shown as near equal.
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>>29191364
>Hawlucha jobbed to Slacking but that's because that's point for point the idea.

How is that any different? Again by your point it's not jobbing because Hawlucha never proved that he was capable of beating Slaking or a stronger opponent. You're contradicting yourself.

Greninja got way more hits in, and again he literally proved that he was capable of beating the attack that beat him, yet he lost to it. Even by your own contrived and false definition, he jobbed.
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>>29191395
It's almost as if Ash showed that he was strong enough to beat his opponent but then lost through a contrived fluke because the plot demanded it. In other words, he jobbed.
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>>29191415
>Hawlucha never proved that he was capable of beating Slaking or a stronger opponent

>what is Machamp, fairies (he is weak to), Zapdos, etc.

it's literally his character
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>>29191466
jobbing has nothing to do with plot anon, that's what people are saying
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>>29191549
But you don't know that they're stronger than Slaking?

And Greninja won a nightmarish matchup against Mega Sceptile.

You're just going in circles here.
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OP here, ignore >>29191131

I'll be making another thread in a few hours and will skip that thread in my copypasta, so hang tight!
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>>29191625
i've never seen someone so autistic in my life, it's just a thread knock it off already
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>>29191131
>>29191625
Nice samefag, Duplica.
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>>29191635
Yeah, he's pretty much retarded. He's way above his paygrade, trying to pose as two people.

>>29191625
>>29191131

That said, someone does indeed need to make a not shit thread when the time comes.
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>>29191573
>nightmarish matchup
>literally sliding past through
>you don't know they're stronger than slacking
>slacking is stronger than zapdos
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>>29191691
Hawlucha didn't beat Zapdos, he just kicked him once. Your argued against undecided matches yourself earlier.

Again you're just going in circles. Just stop.
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>>29191679
how about not? it's literally the dead of night. let the other thread rot for the next 8 hours like all night /padt/ threads do then make one fresh in the morning.
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>>29191706
>no context

and even then, the fact that he was controlling the match vs. losing the cool in slaking showed he jobbed there
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>>29191712

>two dead /padt/ threads running at the same time
>4 hours from now, both have about 150 posts, 95% of which being by their respective OPs autistiming back and forth

I kind of want to see this.
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>>29190839
Well, It's the same thing because Ash has a custom pokemon that bears his name, and Ash Greninja is somewhat 3 times more powerful than a regular one.
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>>29191754
no I'm talking about the examples in Char Clone, because they think somehow a general who cares about his men is definitely a Char Clone
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>>29191736

Just imagine: Once XY&Z ends, there will be no more of this kind of entertainment because no one will be watching the SM anime after episode 5 so no one will even care
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>>29191729
>changing definitions again

He obviously wasn't capable of beating him if he lost depite "controlling the match," yet you still agree he jobbed, so again you're contradicting your own made up definition.

Context for what? The second point? You argued earlier that Alain and Steven's match was undecided so it couldn't be used to evaluate anything, yet here you are using the Zapdos match. Contradictions anon, consider them when you're making shit up as you go.
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>>29191769
dangit duplica why are you even posting in this thread you have your own thread go back there
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>>29191785

What are you talking about? The past three threads are my threads, but they're not really "my" threads. I have just been making sure that people stay on topic discussing what needs to be discussed. Once XY&Z ends, my job will be over.
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>>29191783
My bad on poor English, but here's what I'm saying.

Hawlucha jobbed on Slaking because normally he could take him down, but for some odd reason couldn't despite being able to go against a similar opponent with the same gimmick (Machamp). I brought up Zapdos because he managed to stand toe to toe with Zapdos in spite of losing, and even then losing because of distraction.
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>>29191801
how much do you get paid i'd love a job where i sit on 4chan 20 hours a day trolling a pokemon anime thread

or should i ask stale since he has the same job you do
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>>29191807

SICK BURN BRO
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>>29191805
We don't know that Slaking isn't stronger than those opponents, some of which Hawlucha didn't actually beat, so by your own logic Hawlucha didn't job, he was just weaker.

You can't have this double standard anon.
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>>29191854
He isn't. Didn't you hear the commentary? He was playing stall to tire out Hawlucha, which didn't make sense since Hawlucha never saw tiredness before on someone like Machamp.

Also what double standards? I'm consistent with Zard being stronger than Nigger.
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>>29191807
>my face when they do it for free
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>>29191895

You're welcome.
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>>29191895
I miss wolololo
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>>29191881
Slaking was tanking all his hits effortlessly and KOd him in one hit. He was obviously stronger than him, and Hawlucha never beat him or any provably stronger opponents. That is your exact logic for Greninja not jobbing to Xzard, yet you consider Hawlucha to have jobbed to Slaking.

These are double standards, you stupid faggot.
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>>29191925
That makes three of us.
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>>29191946
Slaking was tanking effortlessly because he was healing, remove the heal and he would have easily be beaten

but my point was that Hawlucha was suddenly getting tired when it wasn't an issue of him before

>Hawlucha never beat stronger opponents

again
>Machamp
>fairies he's weak to
>actually put Pyroar down
>toe to toe with Zapdos because saying beat triggers you
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>>29191968
>Slaking was tanking effortlessly because he was healing, remove the heal and he would have easily be beaten
The exact pedantic specifics don't matter here, retard. The point is that Slaking was a stronger opponent than Hawlucha, and beat him. You literally have zero evidence that any of those were stronger opponents than Slaking, and you yourself refused to acknowledge undecided matches like Zapdos and Alain vs Steven.

If you infer that Hawlucha should have won based on those, you can just as easily infer it for Greninja and his victories against Mega Sceptile, Mega Abomasnow, his match with the champion, and the match itself with Alain. You cannot accept one and not the other, that is a double standard.

You are just going in circles and contradicting your own made up definition. Greninja jobbed, end of story.
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>>29192057
>The exact pedantic specifics don't matter here, retard.

So your argument literally boils down to "context doesn't matter".

And to think I was actually having a proper discussion.

to wit btw, the supposed "didn't scratch him" moment you mentioned was no more different than the "lol Gardevoir just evaded a shuriken".

and no, Greninja breezed through MS and MA unlike Diantha and Alain, so I am still wondering why you keep bringing up those for comparison.
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>>29192131
>>29192057
also

>zero evidence

the same gimmick was shown to be done by Machamp minus the healing
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>>29192057
Hawlucha defeated M-Absol.
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>>29192220
he's gonna say it doesn't count because his waifu didn't get any screentime

in any case it's just me being triggered that the word jobbing is misused, mainly caused by tvtropefags
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>>29192141
That doesn't mean Machamp was stronger than Slaking you fuckhead. In fact he didn't even beat Machamp in that fight, it was interrupted and Machamp had the upper hand.

>>29192131
"Context" and "pedantic specifics" are not the same thing you fucking moron. The specifics of how Slaking defeated Hawlucha are irrelevant to the context of the defeat. He effortlessly tanked his strongest super effective attacks, outhealed them, and beat him in one hit. He was clearly a stronger opponent in the context, and Hawlucha never definitively beat him or a provably stronger opponent. Yet you're inferring that Hawlucha should have won based on the same logic that you dismiss for Greninja.

How the fuck is straight up tanking a move the same as dodging a move? If he can tank it then he's clearly way fucking stronger. The fact that Greninja breezed through those, at a massive disadvantage against both, only reaffirms my argument that he was strong enough to beat Alain. I already fucking said that matching Diantha with an imperfect form means he's at least E4 level using your own "stronger opponent" logic, since you use that as an argument for Zard. I literally said all this before, please use your fucking peabrain to at least keep track of the argument.

For the last time, he was clearly strong enough to win but didn't. Fucking exactly like Hawlucha and everyone else who jobbed. That is your personal criteria for jobbing and he fulfilled it.
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>>29192220
So? How do you know M-Absol is stronger than Slaking?
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>>29192255
>That doesn't mean Machamp was stronger than Slaking you fuckhead. In fact he didn't even beat Machamp in that fight, it was interrupted and Machamp had the upper hand.

Yeah that's why Hawlucha wasn't the forest guardian

>Hawlucha never definitively beat him or a provably stronger opponent

again, implying

also you keep saying types matter in the anime

and no, we've seen that in all of the DIRECT matches Greninja has with Zard, he mostly lost, so no, all the argument you got with that fact are comparisons which is retarded since you already got direct matches of greninja vs zard

>still bringing up "the match wasn't finished Diantha" despite showing that her mon was still capable at the end
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>>29192266
Megas are portrayed as a tier well above final evolutions.

Slaking beat Hawlucha because Shota planned for it due to how Hawlucha fights.

If that Slaking was put up against M-Absol who can use ranged moves it's counter strategy would be voided.

Slaking only won because Shota preplanned everything for Hawlucha.
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>>29192287
>her mon was still capable at the end
Yeah, because Greninja couldn't keep going. Ash hadn't perfected the synch yet. The point was that he matched her which negates your E4 point as an advantage for Alain.

And we saw in the direct match against Slaking that Hawlucha lost. Yet you consider that to be jobbing.

Are you seeing the double standard yet or are you legitimately clinically retarded?
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>>29192319
being able to beat up something > keep up with something

I consider it jobbing because Hawlucha is suddenly getting tired. That's my argument as to why it was jobbing. There was no reason for him to do that.
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>>29192303
And Charizard only won because Greninja pulled a losing attack out of nowhere for absolutely no adequately explored reason, using a move that Greninja countered earlier in the match and thus was provably "strong enough to beat," which is the entire basis of this definition.

You cannot claim that Hawlucha jobbed but Greninja didn't. Either Greninja jobbed or no one did.
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So was ash vs diantha the 2nd or 3rd most hype battle in XY?
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wait, why are people saying hawlucha jobbed in slacking

they made a big deal of it being unable to counter slacking's attacks, and later on we realized that hawlucha is more proficient at aggressive opponents
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>>29192340
>And Charizard only won because Greninja pulled a losing attack out of nowhere for absolutely no adequately explored reason

nigga the losing attack was literally the hype shuriken people are saying that will win
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>>29192477
The fuck does it matter what people were saying? It was an asspull move out of nowhere that he had no real reason to use since he was controlling the fight. You can speculate all you want about the mechanics or thought process or whatever, but that's all it is, speculation. It was a complete asspull written only for Greninja to lose a fight that he was winning.
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>>29192551
that's like complaining the attack he did to Shota was weak too
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>>29192590
The attack against Shota was in the air and coming out of a double team, so he had an advantageous position. In fact he could have use that against Zard and avoided the blast burn altogether. It only reinforces how stupid and jobby his loss was.
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Lillie's favourite pastime is being a little cumslut. She waits in the guys toilets to suck them off every morning, her second breakfast she likes to think of it as.
During lessons she masturbates using the desk as cover, thinking of the students all pouncing on her at once and taking turns using her tight body as their personal onahole. She bites her lip so hard trying to stifle the moans she nearly draws blood. When they all leave the class at the end of the lesson, her chair is completely drenched with her juices
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>>29192719
Please consider meditating on a railroad trestle.
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new thread when
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