>70 >100 >55 >95 >50 >65

>>29156297
What

70
95
60
80
141
99

;^)

>>29156297
Anyone else bothered about the fact that it's pure grass?

It's basically just physical Lilligant.

>>29156297
>10
>255
>10
>10
>10
>255

>>29156297
70
100
90
45
60
70

>>29156297
>65 Speed
Wow, aside from already being pure Grass, you really want this thing to fail, don't you?

>>29156297
Aren't those Flareon's stats?

Whats with it's fucking hips?
Is that where it's brain is or some shit?

>>29156297
Those stats are way too low for a pseudo legendary.

>>29156461
They're for attracting mates.

>>29156461
Its literally made for breeding.

>>29156461
Those aren't hips
That's not real thick
It's just fluff, you know, the white thing underneath Bounsweet. And every Mangosteen fruit ever.

>>29156297
Kinda low for a third stage.

>>29156297
It's shit. Try
60
120
70
20
70
100

>>29156297
Even with Arcanine tier stats, it's gonna be shit. The only way it can be saved is with some ridiculous hidden ability, such as huge power.

>>29156297
Hp: 70
Attack: 110
Defense: 75
Sp.Attack: 90
Sp.Defense 75
Speed: 100

total: 525

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>>29156561
>>29156297

>>29156597
Arcanine's stats are piss, barely better than Pidgeot or Golbat

>>29156319
I have a feeling this will be true as well. Just like Florges, a stat will be absurdly high. I can see it being Sp.Def for her, too.

>>29156700
what arcanine lacks in stats it makes up for in movepool and abilities tho.

>>29156461
That's basically old timey pants.

80
125
60
60
70
127

>>29156343
Yes. I don't know why they keep doing this. Lurantis should be another type at the very least if this thing has to be pure grass. Reminds me of how Lilligant and Whimsicott were both pure grass before Whimsicott adopted fairy.

>>29156700
I was referring to BST

>>29156438
Wow, pretty much. Didn't realize.

>>29156297
>Worst stat archetype
I certainly hope not

Try 60/125/70/80/70/95

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This thing should've been a fast Grass/Steel type. Steel to highlight the nobility theme and speed to serve as an opposite to Ferrothorn.

90
60
90
90
60
90

best waifumon

>>29156438
flareon has way more attack

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>>29156947
>serve as an opposite to ferrothorn
literally wut

>>29156297
DELETE THIS

>>29156461
They're bloomers.

>>29156297
Please don't jinx it. It needs to have at least 120 attack and 100 speed. ;_;

What I want

80/110/60/75/60/115

What I expect

60/105/50/95/90/98

>>29156343
>Tsareena gets dragon dance for no reason

>>29156955
If its sp. atk ends up being higher than its attack despite its physical moves, it will literally be fucking awful.

>>29156438
>>29156927
Nope.
Flareon has way more attack, usable Special and excellent Special Defense.
Flareon troubles comes from being slow and non-existant physical bulk.
>65
>130
>60
>95
>110
>65

>>29156700
>Arcanine stats
>piss
It's lackluster but it's worst stat are both defenses and they sit at 80.
>90
>110
>80
>100
>80
>95

The trouble with Arcanine is lack of specialization in stats, unlike Darmanitan.
If a fair ammount of its Special attack were to be redistributed, even if the end in its defenses, Arcanine would be a real threat.

>>29157111
>S/M come out
>Lilligant gets Dragon Dance for some reason instead

Plot twist:
It's the pseudo-legendary

>>29156297
>65
>120
>65
>95
>75
>105

>>29157209
Nah. I do think it's gonna have a fairly high BST though, around 550. Doesn't mean it will be good though.

>>29157273
That seems pretty optimistic. I'm expecting around 480-500 range.

>>29156955
LMAO.

80/120/95/75/75/85

So with its grass kicking move and maybe HJK, it will be exceptionally mediocre but good enough to not be a total shitmon in-game

>>29157168
Hopefully Lilligant also gets Firey Dance.

>>29157306
I know it doesn't mean much, but its description makes me think it was intended to be fairly powerful for a 3 stage min. Hence a high BST.

>>29157599
You might be right. Maybe I'll concede for a BST of 530. Speaking of that, I didn't know Vanilluxe had a BST of 535 now that I check.

>>29156297
>3 stage evolution
>435BST

don't be absolutely retarded OP

>>29157759
Wigglytuff has that BST.

>>29157087
pretty realistic expectations

Just a note for people assigning high ATK stat: Unless Trop Kick has a low BP, a Lv.35 Tsareena cannot knock out a Lv.38 Golduck; leaving it with around 15% HP.

>>29157803
Wigglytuff was originally made as a 2nd stage and then was given a baby

You're better off comparing its BST to things that were originally made as 3 stagers like Reuniclus or Luxray

>>29157151
110 attack isnt good, anon. Sure it's bulky but it isnt Skarmory and its fast but 95 speed hasnt been good in 3 or 4 generations due to power creep.

Yeah Rk9 has a fuckhuge BST but like you said, the stats are distributed too evenly to be of any use. Same with Kingdra. Some of Kingdra's stats are literally unchanged from Seadra; If these were boosted more instead of >95 attack, Kingdra wouldve been as powerful as a pseudo and certainly outclass Dragonite, due to its god-tier type

>>29157168
Lilligant has no dancing theme, it's actually more scent-themed

>>29157837
Decided to check some calcs, if it's no EVs and neutral nature then it's still possible for it to have high attack.

0 Atk Breloom Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Golduck: 92-110 (76.6 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>>29157168

90% of Lilligants moveset is physical.

>>29157837
It lowers attack so chances are it's low BP.

>>29157803
Wigglytuff when designed was a 2 stage evolution.

>>29157898
then why is it the only non butterfly/moth to learn quiver dance

>>29157898
>no dancing theme
>quiver dance
>petal dance

>>29156371
this is stupid and I must have it

>>29157087
I really hope that's not the case

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>>29157209

>>29158136
I'm gonna bet on it. This thing will have a troll speed stat that makes you wish it was just a tiny bit faster.

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This thing is getting an eviolite up its ass as soon as I figure out which end is its ass.

>new waifumon can take 5 cocks at once
Gamefreak is too lewd!

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>90
>130
>110
>80
>110
>80

>>29156769
What exactly gives you that impression? No mention is made of any defensive capabilities with Tsareena whereas Florges' looks more intuitively special based, more specifically defensive rather than offensive. My prediction for Tsareena:

HP: 72
Atk: 114
Def: 84
SpA: 92
SpD: 71
Spe: 103
BST: 536

Considering its a 3 stage FE, 500+ bst wouldn't be unreasonable at all.

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>>29158320
They only gave it four butts because it has no hands or vagina. Chicken-chan can take five cocks too.

>>29158330
In all seriousness, I hope Kommo-o gets Drain punch. Probably my favorite fighting move. It would be perfect for something in my top favorite fighting types.

>>29156297
Don't wanna place exact estimates for all the stats just yet, but I'm personally expecting it to excel in Speed (110+) with decent Attack (100~). Depending on its overall BST, I'm guessing the other stats will be either just above or below average, with maybe one dump stat).

>>29156297
This is what I hope for:
70
120
65
40
85
130

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>>29156461
Mangosteen pods.

Google motherfucker, can you use it?

>>29158377
>Five
Clearly you have forgotten the armpits, back of the knees, her chest, and her feet. That is 11 dicks, and we have not even gotten to multiple insertion.

>>29157209
Pretty sure the pseudo is some tiki thing

>>29158751
I really like this idea with its signature move being a physical grass move. Mono Grass is just shit offensive.
It can have more stats with stage 3 evo.

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120
75
45
85
130


Trop Kick
Drill Run ?
Rock Slide / Stone Edge ?
Swords Dance

I really hope for Drill Run, EQ is really unrealistic and it needs a solid ground move or it will be useless.

>>29158377
Only 5?

Even I can take more.

>>29159090
I kinda expect it to get Jump Kick or High Jump Kick, which wouldn't be bad. As much as I hate to say it, it needs Stone Edge. I hate saying it mostly because I fucking hate using Stone Edge.

>Serena made it to the Alola region after all.

>>29157037
Ferrothorn is slow and bulky. It wouldn't make sense to have another slow and bulky Grass/Steel, so this should've been a fast attacker.

>>29159163
Rock slide would be good enough imo, but yeah I totally forgot about high jump kick, that would be awesome.

>>29157937
Play rough lowers attack too

>>29156297
Literally a pokemon of this nature has never been good. Florges is the odd one out sitting in UU tier, but that's because she is fairy.

Tsareena is doomed to fail.

For a pure grass to be good it would need a lot more than just a decent ability. Even with something like a 80/130/70/70/100/110 spread it would be garbage.

>>29159368
>decent ability

Nigga that shit cancels Protect.

>>29159405
We don't know this for sure, in fact it seems like the opposite.

>>29159368
One of the problems is that a lot of pure grass mons get really shitty movepools. They get the typical grass moves, and maybe one coverage move that doesn't help much and that's it. Which is what I'm worried about for this mon too.

>>29159405
It's really not that broken. And definitely not broken on a pure grass type that is obviously the "regional 3 stage grass mon".

Pretty sure aqua jet / mach punch / quick attack are the least of this thing's worries.

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I really, really, really like this new pokemon.

>>29159453
Ok let's say it is 80/130/70/70/100/110 with access to EQ, rock slide, ice shard, leaf blade, close combat, etc. It's still not doing anything. There are much more impressive pokemon in the UU tier and even RU tier.

It is very hard to make a pure grass type redeemable without some weird niche in the meta, I would use Breloom as an example but even he is part fighting.

I fear that Steenee will be even worse than Bayleef. I hope I'm wrong.

>>29159526
I'm not saying a vast movepool will fix everything, but it's a start. Something like that could at least make it to RU which is more than what I can say for most pure grass mons.

>>29159195
i mean i guess but why would Tsareena be the opposition of ferrothorn when the 2 have literally no connection??

>>29159512
She's all _ours my good friend!

>>29156461
>monsters should have human proportions

t. waifufriend

She's gonna get a grass priority move, I can feel it.

Otherwise I'll hack her stats to make her usable

>>29159794
>grass priority move
Meta destroyer, truly.

Nigger that would be useless, especially at base 40. MAYBE base 80 would be passable.

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>mixed attacker
>slow
>grass type

>>29159794
Would grass priority be good for anything besides laughing at rain teams?

If her ability is to cancel priority moves, there's no fucking point to making her slow. Priority moves are only a problem for faster pokemon, and slow one will be ripped to shreds by any move, especially a grass type.

>>29159526
There's currently two pure Grass-types in OU: Serperior and Tangrowth. You could've used those as your example.

>>29159855
Go away widowmaker you are one of the least helpful overwatches.

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>>29156297
Oooh, that'd make me so mad. No more Cacturnes or Emboars, please.

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>>29157119
>Becomes Gigalith 2.0
Clearly a living nightmare

>>29160175
Tsareena is the Widowmaker of gen 7

>>29159855
>What is Victreebel?

>>29161866
Idk, what is it? never seen it online before

Shouldn't Tsareena have a higher bulk in Defense rather than Sp.Defense considering its entries?

>>29161866
>victreebel
>slow in the only situation you're supposed to use it in