MEGA EVOLUTION WISHLIST

>>29103493
>loses Sheer Force

Into the trash it goes.

>>29103493
>Mega evolution wishlist

Ok, my wish for mega evolution is for it to be retconned and forgotten about for all eternity.

>>29103493
>Multiscale
>with no recovery
Plus its STAB moves are low powered. Same with its coverage moves. Feraligatr wants stronger offense and speed, not defense.

>>29103493
>>29104258
How about this then? Feraligatr's issues are move power right? Then:
Mega Gatr
Water/Poison
Sheer Force
HP: 85
Attack: 105 -> 135 (+30)
Defense: 100 -> 120 (+20)
SpAtk: 79 -> 89 (+10)
SpDef: 83 -> 93 (+10)
Spd: 78 -> 108 (+30)
Now learns Poison Jab, Poison Fang, and Gunk Shot. The special attack is because you just fucking know Gamefreak would add 10 to it for some reason. Now it has decent speed to boost, hits harder, and has a STAB move that isn't low powered.

I know its never gonna happen but feraligatr with simple ability would be cool

>>29104215
Steelix?

>>29103493
But M-samurott is going to make a dragon trio with M-charizard X and M-sceptile not M-feraligatr

>>29103493
Fuck that. Water/Dark Strong Jaw dropping STAB crunches on niggas.

Mega Yanmega
Bug/Dragon
Tinted Lens
now learns Dragon Pulse

>>29106050
>making Feraligatr even more susceptible to shitty fairies
>making it a shitter Mega Gyarados
no

>>29104215
>Wah-wah! Megas are too hard for me to beat! Get rid of them!

>>29106275
Why do retards always use this argument? Megas are bad because they brought over a whole new wave of powercreep due to their shitty implementation and because you're pretty much forced to use one in order to keep up with the rest. Chances are most people who complain about megas and want them gone are also Mega users but not by choice but because they are too good to pass on.

Mega Charizard Z
You combine Charizardite X and Charizardite Y to get Charizardite Z.

Type: Fire/Dragon
Ability: Huge Power

HP: 78
Attack: 130 (+46)
Defense: 100 (+22)
Sp. Atk: 130 (+29)
Sp. Def: 85
Speed: 111 (+11)

Mega Hydreigon

Type: Dragon / Dark
Ability: Mega Launcher or Sheer Force

HP: 92
Attack: 105 -> 125 (+20)
Defense: 90 -> 105 (+15)
Sp.Atk: 125 -> 155 (+40)
Sp.Def: 90 -> 105 (+15)
Speed: 98 -> 108 (+10)
Total: 600 -> 700 (+100)

>>29106686
Do the world a favor and kill yourself

>>29106863
WHOOPS THAT SHOULD BE 165 SPA I CAN'T MATH

Mega Milotic that finally shines

>>29106863
Mega launcher would make mega hydreigon so good. Please let this be!

I want Mega Dragonite with Drizzle it would be so good.

>>29106483
They almost always manage to fuck something up though. Like how you needed weather in gen 5 unless you wanted to gimp yourself. Not to mention how fucked up RestTalk was in Gen 2, or tons of shit in Gen 1.

>>29106483
>too good to pass on
>megas are still bad
Pick one.

>>29104012
>Sheer Force without Life Orb
>anything but shit

>>29107275
Here's your (You)

>>29106483
>brought over a whole new wave of powercreep
Oh, like a lot of other Pokemon do. If they had just introduced a bunch of OP Legendaies, would you still be asking to have them removed?

>>29107103
Imagine the M- Dragonite stat line looking like
HP: 91 (+0)
Atk: 144 (+10)
Def: 115 (+20)
Satk: 130 (+30)
Sdef: 120 (+20)
Spd: 100 (+20)

No add drizzle after multi scale was blown while gaining a d- dance.

>>29107338
Yes.
Remove Genies.

>>29107282
It's still good, but Tough Claws would be better. The problem is that Tough Claws doesn't affect as many things.

>>29103493
>Posting haychel's cutest couple
Holy shit anon

>>29107364
For the sake of the argument, let's assume all legendaries are removed and the, I don't know, pseudo legendaries are the strongest Pokemon left.
Next, we have to remove them, right? They're stronger than others.

>>29106025
>samurai otter
>dragon
Pick one

>>29107426
Only Garchomp, Mence and TTar are noticeably stronger than anyone else.
Dragonite is only situationally better than Mence.
Hydreigon is cucked by its speed
Metagross is nowhere near as good as it used to be due to Knock Off
Goodra is ultra shit

I'd say the removal of Garchomp and Mence would be good if megas and OP legendaries were removed but considering fairies are a thing now they are probably easier to manage.

M-Torterra
Grass/Ground
Stamina
HP - 95
ATK - 109 > 140
DEF - 105 > 150
SPA - 75
SPD - 85 > 115
SPE - 56 > 50

M-Infernape
Fire/Fighting
Justified
HP - 76
ATK - 104 > 135
DEF - 71 >100
SPA - 104
SPD - 71 > 90
SPE - 108 > 129

M-Empoleon
Water/Steel
Competitive
HP - 84
ATK - 86
DEF - 88 > 120
SPA - 111 > 150
SPD - 101 > 130
SPE - 60

>>29106863
>>29107344

Might as well do Goodra to do all the pseudos

Mega Goodra

Type: Dragon / Poison
Ability: Gooey

HP: 90
Attack: 100 -> 120 (+20)
Defense: 70 -> 100 (+30)
Sp.Atk: 110 -> 140 (+30)
Sp.Def: 150 -> 180 (+30)
Speed: 80 -> 70 (-10)
Total: 600 -> 700 (+100)

Mega Hitmonlee
Fighting-Type
Ability: No Guard
50>50(+0)
120>160(+40)
53>90(+37)
35>35(+0)
110>110(+0)
87>110(+23)
Enjoy the high jump kick spam.

>>29107576
>let's assume all legendaries are removed and the, I don't know, pseudo legendaries are the strongest Pokemon left
>let's assume
>assume
I wasn't saying they are stronger, I was just putting them in the role of the strongest Pokemon for the sake of the argument.

I wanted to show how stupid it was that you wanted Megas removed just because they were strong. Even after Megas are removed, there would still be some Pokemon stronger than the rest. If we remove them all, we're left with nothing.

>>29107858
Yes there would be some Pokemon stronger than the rest but the viability gap would be way smaller.
There's a reason why Jolteon went from perma OU to RU with the introduction of the new speed tiers by these new megas.

>>29107902
And if there weren't Megas, no strong and fast Pokemon would've been introduced?

>>29106050
We already have a Water/Dark Mega with Strong Jaw, though.

>>29106025
Ash-Greninja is already the honorary Water Starter of that trio.

>>29107933
To the point of moving that many Pokemon down a few tiers like megas have there haven't.
I can only think of Talonflame, Greninja and Aegislash as non mega/legendary powercreepers in the past gen and they mostly fucked with fighting types, ghosts and psychics. Meanwhile stuff like Mega Gengar removed every single bulky Pokemon in the game. Don't get me started on Mega Kangaskhan/Mega Salamence.

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Hey guys, can I have a Mega

>>29107961
Every retard wants to make MegeGatr Dark or Dragon. It's always the same shit.

>>29104576
Megas don't just give Pokemon new moves.
I never understood this meme.

>>29107755
>Gooey
Nah. You switch in on a physical move with gooey on regular Goodra and then you Mega into a different ability.

>>29108292
>Gyarados
Is it not obvious that these Pokémon will learn the moves in order to make the mega more useful?

>>29108091
There would've been more new Pokemon in place of the Megas, you know. Plus, not all Megas are strong. If 6-7 of the new Pokemon were strong, that would still result in the same thing.

Every time a new Generation comes in, Pokemon change tiers. Some because of simple thing like SR, some because of Hidden Abilities, but it always happens. Megas were just one of those thing, not THE only thing to cause it.

>>29108367
But they are the one thing to cause the biggest gap in viability compared to all other things you mentioned.

>>29107902
I still don't think it's as bad as permaweather of gen 5 even if a couple megas were overtuned as fuck.

>>29103493
All that except the Sp Atk boost goes into the speed increase. Also, Replace Dragon with Dark and give her Strong Jaw

>>29108351
Then why not just give new moves to any other Pokemon to make them better?
There are scores of Pokemon that would get way better if they got the proper moves, mega or not.

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Mega Accelgor
Bug/Dark
Ability: Dry Skin

HP: 80
Attack: 70
Defense: 70 (+30)
Sp. Atk: 140 (+40)
Sp. Def: 90 (+30)
Speed: 145

>>29107282
>>29107398
Why don't we give literally every mega Huge Power or a special attack equivalent if everything MUST be top tier?

>>29108462
>Replace Dragon with Dark
Then there wouldn't be a Dragon mega starter trio.

>>29103493
Why not tough claws?

>>29108462
>her

>>29103493
>Mega Feraligatr
>Type: Water/Dragon (to make a trio with M-Charizard-X and M-Sceptile)
My nigga

>Ability: Multiscale
Not my nigga
Gatr needs something to boost his offenses, either Sheer Force or Tough Claws as a direct boost (maybe Strong Jaw if they add a Dragon Fang) or Water Veil / Guts to stop burn from crippling him as he dances

>>29108501
Because this is a mega thread and there's precedence for a mega receiving new moves just for that purpose. I'm not averse to giving Pokémon new moves though.

>>29108861
I'd say balance but
>GF
>balance

>>29108922
Why you want Dragon mega starter trio?

Honestly i think if we ever see johto starters megas and with no mono type they would be grass/fairy M-Meganium, water/dark M-Feraligatr and fire/ground M-Typhlosion. Though mono

>>29108462
I hate this "make mega Feraligatr part dark" meme. If you want Mega Gyarados use Mega Gyarados.

I don't understand making it Dark type. There's nothing about Feraligatr that's necessarily evil. It only eats prey to survive.

>>29109278
Because it learns Bite and Crunch. That's why retards give it Strong Jaw as well even though it only affects three fucking moves that it learns.

I think most people are just unimaginative as fuck.

>>29108073
M-greninja isn't going to be dragon type though is it?

>>29107444
>Implying the dragon typing and samurott's thematic inspiration are mutually exclusive in anyway
also samurais are linked to dragons, and with the way samurott's design is now it would be easy to somehow sneak a dragon head into the armour or give it more spikes or something.
A lot more out there than a dragon type M-feraligatr anyway.

Mega Weavile
Dark/Ice
Tough Claws or Refrigerate

Hp: 70
Attack: 120 (+30)
Defense: 65 (+20)
Sp.Atk: 45
Sp.Def: 85 (+20)
Speed: 125 (+30)

>>29107902
you do realize that tiers means nothing, just cause jolteon moved down to RU doesn't mean you have to stop using it, the tiers are based on usage. meaning the problem here is that fags like you are not using the slightly weaker pokemon, which you like more, and then complaining that megas are ruining the tiers

>>29109595
Literally nothing ties Samurott to dragons beyond a tenuous link between samurai and dragons. It is infinitely more likely he'll become part Fighting.

>>29109278
>Dark type mean evil
Dark is pretty fitting for Feraligatr when you see the other dark mons since it is a big menacing crocodile (at least in his old art)

>>29109344
I don't like the idea of Strong Jaw, but since most Feraligatr sets run Crunch, Dark STAB plus Strong Jaw could be pretty good.

>>29109685
There are a lot of menacing things that aren't Dark though.

>>29109680
>dont listen to smogonfags /vp/oreons keep using your bros xD
Life at low elo

>>29103493
They might as well just give every starter a mega.

>>29109680
If it's RU then that means it's not good, or at least not good in the current meta. Usage is based more on how good a Pokémon is than how many people's bro it is.

>>29108392
you're acting as if all megas are OPed to hell and completely clogging up OU. Firstly most of the megas you have complained about have already been banned to ubers (more than a 6th of all megas are banned), where i'm pretty sure they're outclassed anyway so that argument is fucking stupid.
only ~18 of them are in OU, and only ~8 in UU, with the rest being in RU or below. Now when I see those figures I definitely see 'the biggest gap in viability'

>>29109683
Why fighting though? Samurott has never been shown to have amazing strength or skill in a particular type of martial art or anything of the sort, the fighting type is as much of a stretch as the dragon type if not more as at least there is the thematic link

>>29109879
...it's a fucking samurai. How dragon make anywhere near as much sense as fighting?

>>29109879
Because it makes more sense? There is nothing remotely Dragon about the thing. Every other dragon mega looks draconian. Pulling the "samurai have ties to dragons so it makes sense" doesn't actually make the idea better especially for a starter already as thrown-together as Samurott.

The only fucking dragon move it learns is Dragon Tail. Unless you want to go full left field like that Water/Poison Feraligatr thing then it is a generally awful idea.

All this seems like is a Samurottfag trying to make their shitty starter not so inherently shit. Making it Fighting would accomplish the same thing.

>>29109839
i think the only problem with megas is when they give a mega evo to some OU mons to make them even more stronger when they don't need it. They feel like a waste.

>>29108292
>ampharos
There's no way in hell it would have been able to learn dragon pulse without its mega. Same for Blastoise with Aura Sphere/Dark Pulse/Dragon Pulse

>>29109839
The only uber banned mega that is outclassed to all hell is Mawile, Gengar and Mence are S tier, Mega Kang is B+ tier along with Mega Mewtwo Y and Primal Kyogre.

The 8 in UU are there because either they get walled to hell and back in OU or because of tiny little flaws that keep them from matching other megas.
But hey why would you use Registeel or Bronzong in UU when you have Mega Aggron?

The RU megas are way too shitty to be used as your one mega slot in higher tiers however they are still used in these tiers because Megas are way too good to pass on.

>>29108211
What would you suggest? I want to know.

Torterra
Type - Grass/Ground
Ability - Arena Trap
95 \ 109 \ 105 \ 75 \ 85 \ 56 -> 95 \ 169 \ 145 \ 75 \ 115 \ 26

Infernape
Type - Fire/Fighting
Ability - Power Fist = boosts punching moves by 50%
76 \ 104 \ 71 \ 104 \ 71 \ 108 -> 76 \ 174 \ 81 \ 94 \ 81 \ 128
Learns - Drain Punch, Bullet Punch

Empoleon
Type - Water/Steel
Ability - Bulletproof
84 \ 86 \ 88 \ 111 \ 101 \ 60 -> 84 \ 76 \ 128 \ 141 \ 131 \ 70

>>29103493
>multiscale
Here's how you do a decent Mega Feraligatr

Mega Feraligatr
Type: Water
Ability: Tough Claws (gets a life orb equivalent boost, sacrifices sheer forces power for a chance for secondary effects)
Hp: 85
Attack: 145 (+40)
Defense: 120 (+20)
Sp.Attack: 69 (-10)
Sp.Defense: 103 (+20)
Speed: 108 (+30)

>>29110222
Tough Claws gives a greater boost than Sheer Force. You're not really sacrificing anything beyond no-recoil Life Orb (which you aren't even using).

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>>29103493
Mega Typhlosion
Type: Fire/Ground
Ability: Storm drain
HP: 78
Atk: 84
Def: 103 (+25)
SpA: 149 (+40)
SpD: 100 (+15)
Spe: 120 (+20)
Total: 634 (+100)

>>29110160
You can easily go without a mega in RU, especially when your options are Audino, Banette, Camerupt and Glalie.

>>29110252
>Ability: Storm drain
Fuck off. That doesn't even make sense.

>>29110252
>storm drain on a fire type
Never ever pal. Try this:

Mega Typhlosion
Type: Fire
Ability: No Guard
Hp: 79
Attack: 124 (+40)
Defense: 78
Sp.attack: 129 (+20)
Sp.defense: 85
Speed: 140 (+40)

>>29110218
>power fist
>not power glove
It's like you don't want it to be so bad

>>29110186
I don't know. The worst part is that I can totally imagine Gamefreak making Gatr part Dark (and thus forever relegating it to Gyarados' shadow) or making it part Dragon which, although marginally better, isn't as good as it could be because of Fairies.

People have mentioned it above - Feraligatr's biggest issues are move power, speed, and coverage options. The Mega can fix the speed but you need a good trade-off for Sheer Force LO. Giving him another typing with a powerful STAB move that can be reinforced by an ability would really help. It needs a STAB move in the 100-120 BP range.

>>29109977
>enters a thread called MEGA EVOLUTION WISHLIST
>gets triggered by people making a wishlist
Fucking hell it's like your trying to get angry over fucking nothing.
Don't give me that all other dragon types look draconian shit when M-ampharos, seadra, dragalge and altaria exist.
All I was saying that the dragon type makes sense (even if you disagree), it gives samurott a little more spotlight and is also a bit more interesting.

>>29110328
It becoming Dragon could fix the no good moves problem, although I don't know how good of a move Outrage is in fairies: the meta. Alternatively, and this seems a bit odd IMO, it could get fighting type and Superpower/Close Combat. In fact, they share the same main downside, and fighting isn't walled by steel.

>>29110399
Not him but in Ampharos' defense his Dragon-typing was because of a pun or something. Also Dragalga's not a mega, Seadra's not a dragon, and Altaria was already part Dragon.

>>29110077
Yeah but that's not the concept of megas inherently being bad, especially when a lot of lesser pokemon are also given megas which help then out a lot

>>29110290
It would be a waste of mega slot

>>29110459
why not, typhlosion is already a waste of a team slot. Might as well make his mega follow the same route

Mega Staraptor
Type: Fighting/Flying
Ability: Either Reckless or a fighting type version of Pixilate
HP: 85
Attack: 165 (+45)
Defense: 90 (+20)
Sp. Attack: 40 (-10)
Sp. Defense: 80 (+20)
Speed: 125 (+25)

>>29110469
Fuck off, Typhlosion deserves a OU/Uber mega

>>29110439
Legendaries and pseudos should have not been given megas

>>29110160
So you play regularly in Ubers? Why would their ranking in what is basically a ban list even matter when they aren't included in the main meta.
Well if you like bronzong or registeel more than Mega aggron then that should be more than enough reason to use them. Blaming Megas for their usage is like blaming a weapons manufacturer for a murder carried out by their weapon, except not really, but you should get the point.

>>29110528
Typhlosion is boring as fuck in every way. It deserves nothing.

>>29110420
Tough Claws Outrage as a Dragon-type is probably the other route I could see Gamefreak going. I don't particularly think that's as imaginative but I don't know what Gamefreak thinks when they design megamons. They could just shrug and keep him monotype (which would also suck).

>>29110528
>Charizard 2.0 with its wings clipped deserves an OU/Uber mega
Keep on dreaming, buddy. Gamefreak cares about Gen II about as much as they care about Gen VI's content.

>>29110562
They even have rankings for AG which is basically a banlist for a banlist.

>>29110436
Whether or not they're Mega or not doesn't matter in this situation it still completely shuts down his argument that dragon types always have to be draconian in the conventional sense. Sure ampharos and the others obviously have their own reasons for being a dragon type but so does samurott.

Also I meant Kingdra

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Mega Mamoswine
Type: Ice/ground
Ability: Ice floe ( special defense doubles when in hail)

Hp:110
Atk: 160 (+30)
Def: 100 (+20)
SpA: 80 (+10)
SpD: 90 (+30)
Spe: 80

>>29110596
>comparing a fat lizard with a fucking dope volcano
Go elsewhere with your shit taste

>>29110654
Whoops forgot 10 points so make the Defense 110 instead of 100

>>29110653
No, he said every other dragon mega looked like a dragon and he's pretty much right. The exception is Ampharos and I mentioned the reasoning behind it.

Look, this is a mega thread and people can say whatever they want but you have to admit that making Samurott a dragon doesn't actually do anything for it. I don't know if the dude's intention was to say that or anything, but seriously Samurott would benefit a lot more from having a typing other than dragon. Hell, a lot of people already say that Samurott should've been Water/Fighting to begin with.

>>29103493
>>29109093

Mega Feraligatr
Type: Water/Dragon
Ability: Guts

HP: 85
Attack: 105 -> 140 (+35)
Defense: 100 -> 112 (+12)
Sp.Atk: 79 -> 95 (+16)
Sp.Def: 83
Speed: 78 -> 115 (+37)
Total: 530 -> 630

Better?

>>29110562
Cool but that doesn't change the powercreep issue. "Keep using your bros f*ck the smogonf*gs xD" won't stop megas from being overpowered.

>>29110725
That looks fucking disgusting. I love it.

>>29110725
>Guts on a mega
How do you activate it?

>>29110836
>how do you activate it
Same way you activate normal Guts? Or do you mean if it would triple your attack if you got burned beforehand?

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>>29103493
Mega Sunflora
Type: Grass or Grass/Ground
Ability: Solar Power

Hp:75
Atk: 25(-50)
Def: 85(+30)
SpA: 150(+40)
SpD: 90 (+5)
Spe: 105 (+75)
BST:425→525

Min-Maxing is the only way to save this thing from eternal failure

Mega Weavile
Refrigerate
Attack 120 > 165
Defense 65 > 80
Speed 125 > 165

>>29110836
Either get Poisoned/Burned as regular Gatr or get status'd while in mega form. It could also work in Doubles and have its partner status it as well.

E m o l g a!
m
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g
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!

Or just normal evolution

>>29108861
Okay,
M-Shuckle
Huge Power
HP: 20
Atk: 10
Def: 230 -> 255 (+25)
SpAtk: 10
SpDef: 230-> 255 (+25)
Spe: 5 -> 55 (+50)

Top tier shuckle.

>>29106686
fuck off

>>29110252
>storm drain

LITERALLY HOW. FUCK OUTTA HERE

Mega Dragonite

>Ability: Delta Stream

>Atk: 134 -> 164
>Def: 95 -> 105
>Spatk: 100 -> 120
>Spdef: 100 -> 120
>Speed: 80 -> 100


Mega Arcanine

>Ability: Fur Coat

>Atk: 110 -> 110
>Def: 80 -> 90
>Spatk: 100 -> 140
>Spdef: 80 -> 110
>Speed: 95 -> 115

>>29106275
Fucking kill yourself. Megas are absolute shit on every aspect. Gameplay-wise they fucked the meta way more than weather wars. Some instances such as mega gengar, mega mom and mega fug are literally win buttons since they have very specific counters or none at all. Aesthetically they also fucked up the lines. The few good ones such as Mega Mawile could've been used as normal evolutions instead but since they had to push their shitty mechanic that no one asked for, they didn't. They also cimented Charizard, Lucario and Gardevoir as the special snowflake mon they are now when they were a lot more chill in previous generarions. There's zero redeemable qualities in megas, it doesn't matter how many time you use your shitty git gud argument.

>>29112812
git gud.

Megas are sick as cunt

>>29103493
Mega Arbok
Poison Dragon
Multiscale

HP: 60
Attack 85-->125 (+40)
Defense 69-->119 (+50)
Special Attack 65-->35(-30)
Special Defense 79 -->89(+10)
Speed 80--> 100(+20)

Maybe Dragon Tail?...

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>jangmo turned out to be dragon/fighting so haxorus still has a shot at a steel mega

Mega Haxorus
Dragon/Steel
Mold Breaker

+30 Atk
+40 Def
+10 Sp Atk
+10 Sp Def
+10 Spe

Learns Iron Head via heart scale, learns Thunder Punch and Fire Punch via move tutor.

>no longer cucked by FAGGOTS

>>29104576
>poison
KYS

>>29103493
>Multiscale with no recovery moves

You fucked up kiddo.

>>29112926
>we could have gotten a Mega for any Gen 5 Pokémon
>they chose fucking Audino

>>29114742
That Haxorus would be broken as fuck.

>>29112812
Lmao u mad? Megas are here to stay forever and ever and have revolutionized the meta until the end of the series. Get fucked faggot

>>29107303
>I-I have no counterargument, so I'll just give say (You) and pretend I won!!

>>29103493

>Taking away Sheer Force from Feraligatr

You're off your fucking rocker, m8.

>>29114892
It can't hold a Life Orb anymore anyways, so what's the point? It should just get a Water type biting move and Strong Jaw.

>>29110670
But Typhlosion and Charizard have the exact same stats. Typhlosion is literally just a wingless Charizard, mechanically.

>>29114775
no new megas and banned from official competitions

enjoy

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>>29114913
>strong jaw

Go fuck yourself and kys nigger faggot

>>29116457
It's literally called the Big Jaw Pokémon.

Why is everyone fantasizing when Megas are over?

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>>29103493
FUND IT
OP you fucking turn me on

>>29116470
How many pokemon have an ability based on whatever the fuck their description is?

Why does charizard Y get drought? Why the fuck does Blastoise get mega launcher instead of something to pair it with Hydro Pump?

>>29106686
absolutely wew

>>29106686
kys faggot

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>>29106869
>>29112590
>>29116636
>>29116669

>>29106863
>Mega Launcher now is basically a special Tough Claws
how does da meta change famalam

>>29116735
Mega-Blastoise becomes good.

Not much else.

Haxorus M
Type: Dragon/Steel
Ability: Own Tempo

HP 76
ATK 147 > 172 (+25)
DEF 90 > 110 (+20)
SPA 60 > 60 (+0)
SPD 70 > 95 (+25)
SPE 97 > 128 (+30)

tl;dr a retarded meta destroying DD outrage spammer. It has to rely on Iron Tail for steel coverage but other than that I don't see any meaningful way to stop this thing outside of lucky prankster antics once he gets +1/+1

>>29112812
>I don't like something so it's shit
>I don't understand what an evolving meta is
And >says things are shit with no good reason beyond "I say so"

Your opinion is not only bad but wrong.
Go play blue and red if it rustles your jimmies so much

>>29116562
Man you guys are so dumb.

Multiscale is worthless without recovery. It would even be better off with some niche shit like Water Veil.

>>29112551
Just give Shuckle a regular evolution and slap an Eviolite on Shuckle itself.

>>29116800
How's this?

Mega Archeops
Type: Rock/Flying
Ability: Multiscale
HP: 75
Atk: 160 (+20)
Def: 115 (+50)
SpA: 102 (-10)
SpD: 115 (+50)
Spe: 100 (-10)

>>29116850
Pretty dank. It does lose boosted Acrobatics after all.

>>29116887
Had another idea after writing that. Defeatist, when activated, disallows Mega Evolution. y/n?

>>29116850
Mega Blissey
Ability: Regenerator
HP: 255
Atk: 10
Def: 110
SpA: 75
SpD: 135
Spe: 55

How quickly would it be banned?

>>29116900
You're a fucking madman, but I like it.

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>>29116900
I feel you might appreciate my autism, if it's not too tldr.

>>29107344
mega-mega-venusaur
150 (70)
90 (-10)
183 (60)
132 (10)
180 (60)
60 (-20)

ability: seeder
auto-casts leech seed whenever m-m-venu enters the field.

Mega Meganium

Grass/Fairy?

Someone make a good one, i suck at this shit.

>>29116910
surely someone would kill Masuda for allowing such an abomination to exist. Then again, they gave Chansey an evolution after the clusterfuck it caused in gen 1 (the first big official Nintendo event was won by a guy with a 6 Chansey team which is why species clause exists).

>>29117107

Meganium M
Grass/Fairy
Ability: Triage

HP 80
ATK 82 > 102 (+20)
DEF 100 >140 (+40)
SPA 83 > 83
SPD 100 > 140 (+40)
SPE 80 > 80

New move: Growth (why the fuck does this not even get growth lmao, but it has pretty much everything else it needs)

Would pretty much immediately become a thing in doubles due to priority heal pulse, but even in singles priority on Synthesis would be very useful. I boost the physical attack over special because it has a more useful physical movepool for what is still fundamentally a support mon (body slam, petal blizzard, dragon tail and bulldoze would all have some sort of situational application)

>>29116959
I enjoyed it. Didn't read through the whole thing but if I can read a long ass list of megas and not think you're a retard coming out, you must be doing something right.

Here we go again.

Mega Lapras
Type: Water/Ice
Ability: Shell Armor
HP: 130
Atk: 85 (+0)
Def: 110 (+30)
SpA: 115 (+20)
SpD: 140 (+50)
Spe: 60 (+0)

Mega Slowbro 2: Electric Boogaloo desu

I'm enjoying this. Suppose I'll make a few more.

Mega Bisharp
Type: Dark/Steel
Ability: Tough Claws
HP: 65
Atk: 150 (+25)
Def: 120 (+20)
SpA: 60 (+0)
SpD: 95 (+25)
Spe: 100 (+30)

>>29117143
No it wasn't

Mega Magcargo
Type: Fire/Ground
Ability: Filter
HP: 50
Atk: 50 (+0)
Def: 140 (+30)
SpA: 100 (+10)
SpD: 140 (+70)
Spe: 20 (-10)

Fairly simple one. It already gets Earth Power (from Lv. 1 no less) so there's not much reason to keep its Rock typing.

>>29116773
>megas were banned from oficial competition
>VGC is at it's slowest and most boring meta because of all the megamoms/megafugs
>using stale memes to defend arguments

Megas were a mistake. GF knows it. That's why they banned them, so that only normies and 8-year olds use them in their crap runs

Mega Kabutops
Type: Rock/Water
Ability: Sniper
HP: 60
Atk: 155 (+40)
Def: 110 (+5)
SpA: 65 (+0)
SpD: 90 (+15)
Spe: 120 (+40)

The really fuggen fast shellfish who can OHKO niggers with Night Slash or Stone Edge and perhaps balk a hit too. Perhaps we can get a weaker version of Crabhammer eventually.

how can we not make mega typlosion a shadow of mega charizard?

>>29117718
Easily?

Boost its speed, give it a different secondary type, ability etc. It learns eruption.

Fire/Ground with Regenerator would be dank. Don't even have to give it Earth Power, make it a mixed attacker so EQ kills tranny while it can also eruption spam.

Rate this mega:

Mega druddigon
Type: dragon/steel
Ability: ironate
Stats: 87 (standard druddigon gets a plus 10 in hp)/ 160 (+40)/120 (+30)/60/120 (+30)/48
New move: extremespeed

>>29117718
It's easy as fuck to make any mega unique or differentiate it from similar megas. The problem is that Gamefreak apparently doesn't have the ability to do this

>>29110861
>>29110861
You can't carry a toxic or flame orb and a mega stone. That gatr would do less damage than a normal gatr unless the enemy is stupid enough to status you

>>29117693
>certain megas were a mistake
Fixed it for you

>>29117867
>Guts has no use outside of self-harming items
Are you being serious?

The point is that you discourage them from statusing you. That's a big deal, especially for a physical attacker.

Its stats, movepool and type are already hella strong. It doesn't need a constant boosting ability on top of it. Hell even Resttalk could be viable with its bulk and type.

>>29117867
All right anon, take a look at those stats. Base 140 attack, base 115 speed, and Dragon Dance coupled with pretty good physical bulk. If it's boosting with Guts your opponent can't just Scald it to death because that just makes it even more of a wrecking ball. Don't think of it as a way to make its attack higher, think of it as a deterrent or a faux-status shield.

>>29117908
Sheer force + item is way better than status deterrent Guts

>>29117943
Still does less damage than the non mega Feraligatr. There are other abilities that are better than guts for him

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Mega Machamp
Fighting
Decimate (Normal to Fighting)
HP: 90
Atk: 175(+45)
Def: 100 (+20)
SpA: 65 (+0)
SpD: 75(-10)
Spe: 100 (+45)

Honestly, all I want with Mega Machamp is for him to just rip off the belt. No extra gills or frills.

>>29119553
Rip off the belt and maybe have his muscles pump up a bit? Maybe look more veiny or something?
I like the idea.

>>29119553
>Honestly, all I want with Mega Machamp is for him to just rip off the belt. No extra gills or frills.
This.
It's basically Type: Null all over again, but damn it, it works.
Maybe its muscles get bigger or something, but other than that, yeah. I want this.

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Type: Ghost/Dark
Ability: Deteriorate (Dark-type -ate ability)
HP: 60
Atk: 60 (+10) -> 70
Def: 60
Sp.Atk: 105 (+30) -> 135
Sp.Def: 105 (+30) -> 135
Speed: 105 (+30) -> 135

>>29110459
I think you underestimate a no guard focus blast and Inferno.

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Mega Weavile
Ability: Speed Boost
HP: 70
Attack: 120 -> 175
Defense: 65 -> 80
Sp.Atk: 45 -> 80
Sp.Def: 85 -> 80
Speed: 125 -> 150
Total: 510 -> 605

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Mega Milotic
Water/Fairy

either Magic Guard or Multiscale

95 HP
60 Atk -> 70 (+10)
79 Def -> 109 (+30)
100 SpA -> 130 (+30)
125 SpD -> 145 (+20)
81 Speed -> 91 (+10)

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>ctrl+f
>type flygon
>zero results

UNACCEPTABLE!!!

M-Flygon
Dragon/Ground

Ability: Tinted Lens
HP: 80
Attack: 100 > 130
Defense: 80 > 100
Sp. Atk: 80
Sp. Def: 80 > 100
Speed: 100 > 130

>>29110160
If Aggron was that much more useful compared to the rest, it would've been moved up a tier. It's just slightly better, which makes sense because it's a Mega. Registeel can be used in any team that requires a bulky Steel-type, while Mega Aggron needs a team built around it.

>>29110670
>Comparing fat ratel to a dope Dragon
Go elsewhere with your shit taste

>>29110713
And why does them being mega or not even matter at all?
By draconian he literally means reptilian, sceptile looks no more 'draconic' than samurott.