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S-She's going to be good right? At least OU?

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S-She's going to be good right? At least OU?
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>she
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>>29068833
>a physical mono-grass type
>kek

not even in the waifu department is she viable
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>>29068833
>online stuttering
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>>29068833
>mono grass

no the best we can hope for is NU
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Nah m8, Lurantis is going to get fucked hard.
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>>29068833
>mono grass physical attacker
>leaf guard
>physical solar beam for a signature move

Unless she gets insane min/maxed stats and solid coverage she will be garbage. The only hope for her I see is if they make her kind of like Weavile or Aerodactyl, very fast physical pokemon with a good support movepool. But I don't see them giving her a lot of speed.

At this point just hope for a good HA to save her.
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>>29068833
depends on stats and movepool. the typing isn't doing any favors.
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>>29068893
both senses of the word
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Lurantis is super cute
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>>29068833
Even if it had a descent speed tier (around 328 or above) and access to a fighting type move for coverage, it will most likely end up being overshadowed by Virizion. And while you could argue the former is better for not having a psychic and huge flying weakness, it's most likely not going to have a good bulk.

At this point the only hope is it having access to a good HA or egg move. I'll be just another good in-game mon to have around.
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Chlorophyll/Solar Power + insane speed/attack and either an incredible movepool or enough bulk to survive a Brave Bird are all that Can save it.
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>>29068865
>what is Serperior
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>>29068833
what happened to the last bug-like pokemon that was not actually bug with lenses?
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>>29069032
it got a niche in Ubers as a defogger that resists Primal Groudon
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>>29068833
bottom of the bottom in PU, only used by desperate waifufags and karenfags
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It's going to be PU trash unless it gets an obscenely good HA.
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>>29068833
PU

Unless it gets some HA that buffs slashing moves, and it learns Dragon Claw, X-Scissor, Leaf Blade, Night Slash, and Sacred Sword. And it has high attack and speed to back that up.
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>At least OU
>at least
Nigga do you think it somehow has a chance at Ubers?
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>>29068833
I don't care, she's on my team, even if she sucks

... especially if she sucks
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>>29069031
Serperior got blessed with a good ability
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Depends on her stats

Her entire gimmick is a physical solar beam with Solar Blade but the distribution could be many

So it entirely depends on her stats and abilities

Leaf Guard is a garbage ability unless your running a sun team
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127 speed + accelrock
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lmao, this thing is gonna have 480 BST at the MOST and it's a fucking grass type.
It will have a negative movepool.

Not to mention
>leaf guard
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>>29069031
Fair enough. But unless it has an excellent ability it'all be RU at best. Leaf guard isn't gonna cut it.
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>>29069031
>contrary

again, a retarded enough HA can save anything.
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look at them legs. disgusting
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>leaf guard
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>>29068901
>HA negates Charge Turns and gives moves with them +4 priority

Is it viable now?
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>>29069049
I'm hoping AG actually
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>Lilligant: Physical Edition
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>>29069087
Probably not because grass is such a bad offensive typing. Heatran, Talonflame, Dragonite, Salamence, ect x4 resist it.
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>>29069141
>Leavanny: Monotype Edition
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Predictions

>Uber
Solgaleo, Lunala, Jobber-Greninja, probably Ultra Beasts since we'll probably be able to use them.
>OU
Jangmo-o evo. Maybe Poppmaid depending on HA and typing. Weaker Ultra Beasts.
>UU
Type: Null, Magearna, Lycanrock, Bewear, Salandit evo, Vikavolt, Marowak, Exeggutor, Raichu
>RU
Wishiwashi, Morelull evo, Drampa, Crabrawler, Mudsdale, Turtonator, Ninetales
>NU
Gumshoos, Palossand, Oranguru, Passimian, Sandslash, Mimikyu (if good stats but no evo), Pyukumuku (if good stats but no evo), Minior (if good stats but no evo)
>PU
Lurantis, Raticate, the other three I mentioned above if they have bad stats and no evos.
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>>29069180
Also Tapu Koko in OU
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>>29068833
>HA: Grassiate
>access to boomburst, double Edge
Where is your god now anti-waifufags
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>>29069211
>heatran
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>>29069166
Mono grass is actually better than grass/bug because it doesn't gain 2 x4 weaknesses as well as a rock weakness. Let me propose a VGC viable Lurantis though.

BST: 495

75 HP
100 ATK
60 DEF
65 SP. ATK
60 S. DEF
135 SPE

HA: Friend Guard

Notable moves: Fake Out, Aromatherapy, Quick Guard, Sunny Day, Glare, Leaf Blade

Honestly just giving something friend guard and a fast fakeout makes it useful in VGC considering the next best friend guard user is fucking Clefairy.
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>>29069267
>mudkip use mud slap!
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>>29069180

I got some hope for Bewear and Mudsdale just based on their abilities. If they are matched up with good stats and/or moves they seem like they could be really great
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>>29069031
This is bait right? Unless this thing has an elder god-tier ability like Serperiour it's going to be a NU shitmon that gets boxed as soon as you have it registered to your dex. But it's probably going to have chlorophyll or something like that.
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>>29069323
>heatrans air balloon
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>>29069039
Holy shit I get why it has striped parts.

I like it a bit more now.
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>>29069180
Palossand is too obnoxious looking to be low tier, I bet you they'll somehow manage to make it good.
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>Not Grass/Fairy
It's pink cutesymon bros. Why didn't they make it pink when they have all the other times?
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>>29069501
what is blissey
what is alolololmoloa
what is luvdisc
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>>29069073
Not without enough speed is it going to.
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>>29069663
Retarded is contextual. For example, speed boost is not a retarded ability on Ninjask. It is on Blaziken.
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Don't care, I'll love her regardless
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>>29068861
It's an artistic expression of thoughts.
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>Tons of grass types like Serperior, Roserade, Liligant, and etc are given Earth power, Earthquake, Rock Slide, and Power Gem to compensate for many grass types having shitty movepools.
How does this affect the meta-game now?
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>>29069750
It's an autistic presentation of words.
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>>29068833
No way.

Leafeon is the ceiling.
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>>29069799
Not bait.

Physical grass Pokémon with high BST for a non-Legendary.

I could see Lurantis getting Chlorophyll. In which case it would be okay under sun with its physical Solar Beam.
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>>29069753
Not much. Serperior is still the only extremely good grass type. Roserade already has decent coverage and is still really niche. Liligant will never be a good enough quiver dancer to go above RU since Volcarona and Vivillion are just way better at it.
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>>29069832
>Roserade already has decent coverage
>No way to deal with Steel, or Fire Pokemon.
>Has to rely on hidden power.
>Has fucking mudslap for some reason.
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>>29069180
Salandit final evo seems to have a lot of potential, being able to poison Amoonguss, Ferrothorn, heatran, klefki, metagross and Venusaur can be quite powerful
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>>29069832
Liligant would at WORST be UU if it gets Earth Power. It fixes literally all the problems the poor little thing has.
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>>29069270
Clefairy are cute
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>>29069180
Pyukumuku is a free kill wildcard, it's going to be UU at worst but still see occasional usage in OU.
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>>29069915
You do realize that Roserade gets Technician Hidden Power right?
That's a 90 BP move of any typing.
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>>29070944
>Pyukumuku is a free kill wildcard

No it isn't, your opponent isn't a retard and they can just 2HKO it or simply use sub first.
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>>29070255
Earth power solves most of grass type problems, also power gem or stone edge, but very few grass types get stone edge and have to resort to rockslide and without lo rockslide often doesn't nail the ohkos.
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>>29070944
It's literally just choice scarf ditto: redux
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>>29068833
> Smogon
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>>29070959
Oh shit you're right and it actually has good special attack. Although you're missing out a natural cure to help you out of a potential paralysis I guess.
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>>29070965
>your opponent isn't a retard
reminder that this is showdown we're talking about

Either way I don't agree. You wouldn't send out Pyuku at the start of a turn, it's something that you switch into and is there for the mindgames. If your opponent incorrectly predicts a switch and goes for a weaker attack, but you don't switch, you have the advantage for that turn.
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>>29070990
>phoneposting
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>>29069779
Maybe he's Michael J. Fox.
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>she's sergeant pepper's heart club mantis
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>>29069832
>Serperior is still the only extremely good grass type.
Uh, Tangrowth?
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>>29068833
>pure grass
>OU

yeah, right
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>>29068833
>At least OU.
Lol.
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>>29068833
>>29069053
>she

>>29069056
>>29069734
>her
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>>29071235
Take your gender politics to
>>>/t/umblr
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>>29070206
4 out of 6 of those can just be KO'd with a fire stab.
Corrosion is a cool ability but it's kinda pointless when you're also part fire type.
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>>29071241

To be fair we don't know a damn thing about its gender outside of screenshots and videos, using a pronoun other than "it" to describe Lurantis at this point is just pure waifufaggotry and should be treated as such.

And don't make us pull out that Pokemon advertising bible.
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>>29069031
Garbage.
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>>29070255
firey dance would fit lilligant better, even if that means it still gets walled by heatran
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Ok, let's see what I can do:
Ability: Chlorophyll/Tinted Lens/Sharpener*

*Cutting moves's power is inclreased by 50%

HP: 50
Atk: 128
Def: 65
SpAtk: 76
SpDef: 68
Speed: 100

Moves: Jump Kick, Leaf Blade, X Scissor, Sacred Sword, Nigt Slash, Shadow Claw, Psycho Cut, Rock Slide, Zen Headbutt, Knock Off.

UU or RU ?
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>>29071279
>he's never swept an entire team with leaf storm hax
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>>29068833
>At least OU?
RU at absolute best.

>>29069031
Something with a 130 BP nasty plot and 113 speed, next dumbfuck question?

>>29069180
>Ubers
Box legends and Ultra beasts, slight chance of tapu-koko being here pending on how its stats pan out. Imagine keldeo with drizzle for instance. Yeah.
>OU
Poppmaid if water/fairy garunteed to be here. Jamango-o's evo especially if it's steel like I think it could be. Type:Null, Magearna. Ninetails if it's the ice type with over 100 speed and special attack we deserve if not, not.
>UU
Salandit evo, Eggy
>RU
Lycanroc, Bewear (it'll have no movepool so to speak), Vikavolt, Rai, Turtonator
>NU and below
Everything else.

Special mention to pyukumuku/evo for being a dittoesque gimmick that'll be viable in all tiers but never have usage to be anything but PU.
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>>29068833
>At least OU
>Wants her to be Uber or AG
Are you retarded?
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>>29071316
>handicapping yourself against Steel or Fire types

Serperior gets walled way too easily by commonly used Pokemon even if he gets boosted by Contrary, and if your opponent has atleast half a brain cell.
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>>29069180
>Wishiwashi in RU
>When the school form is confirmed to have at least 150 base SpAtk
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>>29069180
>Jobninja
>Uber
UU at best
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>>29071378
>equivalent of a Mega that can hold an Item
>UU
Continue to dream.
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>>29069379
But I thought it switched in to block the grass attack. It can't use its 4x resistance and keep its air balloon buddy.
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>>29071366
>he
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>>29071389
>No Protean
>Has to faint an opponent to change form
Nah it's shit
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>>29071407
You do understand there are pokemon with useless abilities, but still are amazing. Plus, all it needs is a free kill and it can to that regular STAB is a thing.

And again:
>Mega that can hold an item
>bad
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>>29068833
Lurantis a shit
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>>29071367
Just like Hoopa
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>>29068833
Poor mans Leavanny
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>>29071407
I doubt it will be protean levels of good, but it has priority and great coverage still potentially makes it a very scary pokemon, and having to guess between protean and fake mega could lead to a charizard situation, where the unpredictability and differences of the two options makes both that much worse to deal with.
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>>29068833
It's colours remind me of bacon strips.
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>>29071378
Considering Smogon is unlikely to unban protean jobfrog due to how gay it is for offensive teams to deal with it yeah it will probably remain uber.
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>>29071400
>being this obsessed on what gender the Pokemon is
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>>29068833
It looks like it's going to be a pure grass physical glass cannon.
You can't get shittier than that.
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>>29068833
I hope it at least UU tier
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>>29071494
You can if you're pure Bug.
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>>29071495
It'll probably learn rapid spin.
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>>29068833
>good
>at least OU
What the fuck, did you want it to be Uber?
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>>29071495
It has a pretty solid typing, it will all come down to stats and moves.
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>>29071503
Waifushitters are deluded, what do you expect.
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>>29071502
>>29071504
>Weak to stealth rock and earthquake
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>>29071520
ebig x--------DDDDD
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>>29068833
>offensive pure grass-type
not looking good
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>>29071520
>reshiram
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>>29071457
>calling a waifumon a he
You were bound to trigger someone
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>>29071529
>Uber
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>>29071499
I expect normal Pinsir to be better than this thing.
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>>29071445
Hoopa has a godawful typing
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>tfw Tinted Lens HA
>tfw high speed, attack
>tfw 225BP neutral coverage against everything during sunlight
HA will make or break it, if it gets Tinted Lens it'll be pretty good.
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>>29068833
I dont think it can be stated enough

>Leaf Guard

Pray for a not shit HA and a decent movepool
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You're deluded if you think they'll let a monograss "bug" mon have anything more than 70 speed.
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Is mono-grass doomed to be bottom of the barrel worst forever?
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>>29071636
Mono Ice is probably worse. At least Tangrowth managed to work.
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>>29071636
Mono Ice is still worse.
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>>29071640
Tangrowth has the benefit of having amazing stats, ability and movepool. Every other mono-grass has really shit coverage.
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It's gonna be something fucking boring like z-crystals or dartrix etc
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>>29068833
Did you just assumed its gender?
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>>29071651
Yeah, but think about this. Avalugg has pretty decent stats, a decent movepool and passable ability but it's shit purely because Ice is that bad.
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LURANTIS IS FEMALE
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> At LEAST OU
Keked
I can get you want it to be ou. But saying at LEAST OU. As if he could be ubers
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>>29071636
There are more mono-grass in ou than any other type in the game you mindless sheep
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>>29071438
mega audino could hold an item and it'd still be RU at best
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>>29071367
Wishiwashi also turns into a shitmon when its HP is below 50%. It's like Archeops, which happens to be NU.
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>>29068833
>At least
>As if Lurantis could ever be Ubers or AG

You're lucky if this goes above PU
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>>29068833
Your shitty fucking "waifu" mantis is going straight to PU with all the other garbage, so thank goodness for that.
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>>29069053
100% agreed
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