Can we all agree that this is the worst Johto pokemon?

That's not Stantler. He's the worst Pokemon, in all the games.

That's not Stantler.

If we're talking about design only, I think that the worst Johto Pokemon award goes to Qwilfish. Not an ugly Mon, but literally just a puffer fish

>>29056974
>>29056986
>>29056991
I think you meant smeargle

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>>29057006
fuck you, it's ampharos
overrated balding shit

>>29056974

That's not Dunsparce

It's Ledian.

At least Corsola, Sudowoodo, Stantler and Octillery are actually able to damage an opponent's pokemon.

>>29056974
>he never swept with Octillary
Kek

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>>29056974
>>29057006
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>>29057044

>>29056974
He/She has a move only She/He can learn. Dunsparce is the worst.

>>29057009
Fuck off, smeargle is a monster if you use it right

Absolutely not, Octillery is great. Worst Johto pokemon is Blissey. Completely unnecessary addition to the game and not even aesthetically appealing. Without Blissey eviolite Chansey wouldn't be a thing either.

>>29057083
There's nothing wrong with its appearance but
>make punching bug
>give it terrible attack

Ledian is the pokemon with the most wasted potential.

>>29056974
all Johto pokemon are shit

this is fact

>>29057245
Good thing you don't even see them in GSC or HGSS

>>29056974
Fucking Hoppip because it's the one grass type I never got to like since they made it so shit.

Seriously fucking splash and synthesis.

>>29057245
Counterpoint: Scizor

>>29057326
Jumpluff is a great in-game pokemon

Stantler.

>>29056974
OP I need you to give me your address right now

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>>29057326
I like how they made it smug about being shit, made it extra triggersome

>>29057106
>Octillery
>Cis-scum
Lol no, you sexist shitlord

>>29057748
Jumpluff isn't tht great ingame, offensively that is. However, it's got access to plenty of status move, such as Sleep Powder, and a nice Speed tier. It also performs nicely in competitive too.

>>29056974
TCG anon here. Fuck You.

Lanturn is the worst.

Until we get a proper anglerfish to make up for it, it will always be the worst.

Its actually one of the better ones

>>29057855
This lil nigga look like a red onion

>>29056974
>what is stantler
>what is qwilfish
>what is 90% of the johto dex

>>29057006
This. It's one of few Pokemon that I dislike all around

>>29057180
That's my point, it's broken as fuck and has no direct counter

>>29056974
> Broctillery
> anywhere close to worst
Fuck you and your shit. That nigger was bro-tier, second only to Mantine, on my first gen II run. Went toe-to-toe with dragons ten levels higher.
>>29057083
I did surprisingly well with Ledian using Ice Punch and Thunderpunch in a different run from the above. Of course, in gen II, those moves were special attacks.
>>29057930
It isn't as cool as it could be, but it isn't that bad.
>>29057006
I've never seen the problem with "literally my mom's pufferfish" sort of designs. I liked Qwilfish, even if it wasn't quite bro-tier.

The actual worst gen II mon was Smoochum. I'm not sure why anyone would think otherwise.

>>29056974
Qwilfish is the worst

> Have Moody
> Thats is not Stantler

y'all have really interesting ways of spelling Tyrogue

>>29056974
>has a move named Octazooka
One of the better gen II mon
plus that Abyssal Draw

>>29057245

>Azumarill, Skarmory, Tyranitar, the legendary dogs, Scizor, Umbreon and Espeon, Feraligatr, Typhlosion, Heracross, Houndoom, Granbull, Quagsire

>shit

>>29058415
>taunt
>any Pokemon with a fighting type move
Most people use the same three variant sets anyways so you can predict pretty easily. Get gud

>>29057245
Johto has the highest good design:number introduced ratio of all gens. It was mostly because the region felt like an expansion pack for Kanto and they used Kantomons for most of the filler material instead of making new dex filler garbage aside from babies, which actually served a purpose in that they advertised the new mechanic of breeding.

>>29058415
Smeargle wasn't broken at all in gen 2, over time it's become more and more annoying though as its movepool expands. And they gave it fucking moody for some stupid reason.

>>29059025
>And they gave it fucking moody for some stupid reason.

Because its base stats are garbage

>>29056974
He's the only octopus pokemon we have, so thay's worth something. Stantler is the real worst.

>>29057245
better than unovabortion trash

>>29058506
>That nigger was bro-tier
I bet you're white, go on /b/, and retweet Harambe jokes

>>29058759
This holy shit I was so psyched when i saw him and hitmontop in a pokemon magazine before good Was launched

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>>29056974
God no. He's great.

>>29058836
yes, half of those are garbage

>>29056974
Dude no, I love Octillery.

Thats not braaaaaap

How has no one mentioned Pineco yet? A fucking mono-Bug pinecone? If it didn't evolve into Forretress no one would even remember it.

>>29056974
No it's Stantler or Unown.