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Riddler Leak Update: Starter Split Forms? Salandit Evo Hints

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Recently this surfaced from the riddler.
Part 1: The riddler talks about Salandits evolution which apparently going to be similar to a fishing demon. The riddler also shows 4 options which relate to Salandits final evolution/what they could look like. Those 4 are as follows...
- Kitsune
- Cleopatra
- Medusa
- Siren
Part 2: The riddler says something along the lines of this (Note: Slightly edited to make more sense)... Do you think that because the starter evolutions where shown, and the final evolutions leak that everyone knows about, you know everything about this generations starters? Of course we are not talking about Skills (Moves), Abilities, Stats, etc. Also some guesses people have about the starters are not true. And the descriptions of the starters also don't make things fully clear. There is only one truth... You don't know everything about the starters

So what does this all mean? Well that Salandit will probably join the ranks of Gardevoir, Delphox, etc, and that the starters do have a secret but we don't know what it is yet. And they said it doesn't have anything to do with Skills (Chinese for Moves I guess), and Abilities meaning it most likely won't be battle bond like Greninja, or special Z Moves. I'm guessing split forms, one based on RPG classes (Archer, Berserk, Healer), and the other on the circus (Grass/Ground Knife thrower, Fire Performing tiger, Water/Fighting strongman)
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>Salandit becomes a waifumon
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Old and mistranslated to suit this stupid split evo shit
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>>29006348
>Salandit becomes a waifumon
The more waifumon the better, Anon. Having /vp/ implode in on itself because of it is glorious.
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>>29006386
If it was old then why does it reference the announcement of the starters second forms, directly saying, despite this, there is something about the starters we don't know?
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>>29006071
Never going to happen faggot
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>>29006348
Have you read that dex entry?
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>>29006446
Because the second forms are old too
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>>29006071
You do realize that many are guessing that the starters have split evos and a good number of these believe that they MUST have split evos, right? The riddler says "Also some guesses people have about the starters are not true." after all.

For all we know, he might mean "There's no split evos. Sorry guys."
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>>29006477
Literally 4 days ago the starters second forms where revealed
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>"Also some guesses people have about the starters are not true."

And what just happens to the most fucking common guess about them?

Face it faggots you aren't getting split evolution's
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>>29006516
Not my fault you can't keep up, theres been two riddler posts since then

>>29006513
OP is lying anyway, it says you don't know skills etc, not that it isn't skills etc
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>>29006071
What about the final evos having split forms ala the genies/Kamis? That just came to mind.
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>>29006425
Then why are you here?


Weirdo.
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>>29006071
>fishing demon
That's a horrible mistranslation. It refers to luring. Here have a proper translation of the Salandit riddle.

"The prior rejected post(referring to the fake leak he said we should pay attention to) mentioned that poison burglar fire lizard's evolution was hinted at in its introductory text. At least, it was depicted to be a seducer (or a creature that lures things). So then which one of the following is the evolution designed after? Attention (note): This riddle isn't in regards to anything new so it won't appear in any future riddles nor will the answer be revealed in the (chart) updates.

1) [Fox Demon] Nine-tailed fox
2) [Egyptian Queen] Cleopatra
3) [Gorgon] Medusa
4) [Sea Demon] Siren

I'll see you guys next time! Doesn't it seem like that a bandit evolving into any of these doesn't make any sense at all? (smirk)"
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The final evo of the starters will have different forms for each game,but with the same name like rockruff
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>>29006640
The region has a kitsune and a siren so my guess is on the Gorgon or Cleopatra.
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>>29006650
>The final evo of the starters will have different forms for each game,but with the same name like rockruff
>There are people that seriously believe this
The 18th can't come sooner.
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>>29006513
>>29006539
Literally the most denied theory of all time is split forms. The riddler is probably referring to the starters getting Z-Moves/Forms. The fact that he mentions the second evolutions means something. Says something like "Despite what you have seen and the final starters being leaked, you don't know everything about them"

>>29006552
So? No one posted about this yet. Also if you know soo much about the translation then post the whole thing

>>29006640
Thx The for the clarification. What about Part 2?
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>"The guesses everyones having aren't true"
>YES MY GUESS IS CONFIRMED
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>>29006852
There was a 350+ post thread you fucking moron, it's right there in the archive

/vp/ doesn't stop when you leave
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>>29006071
>Genzoman got a job at Game Freak.
Nice.
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>>29006821
Yes and why not?show me real proofs with real information that i am wrong please
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>>29006878
Then show me the link
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>>29006447
>autism
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>>29006964
>faggot
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>>29006947
>>28981262
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>>29006964
>spouting buzzwords to fit in
Not even him and I believe these leaks, but you need to go back.
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>>29006348
I don't mind waifumon, but Salandit is definitely not one I would've expected...
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THERE
ARE
NO
STARTER
SPLIT
EVOS
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>>29007037
>website specifically makes sure to point out that female Salandits can control human males and pokemon males with pheromone
We should have seen it coming, honestly.
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>>29006071

All those fucking pictures are for salandit?

Fuck that, I want a heavily Medusa Based Pokémon damn it
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>>29007017
See >>28981310
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I can understand Salandit's description

But a lizard waifu straight out of that smug piece of shit?

Honestly i expect a 3 stage line similar to Popplio that gives you the transition into a Lizard Waifu

But if that's not it and it's going to evolve into a seducer, then go ahead, im interested in seeing how it'll turn out
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>>29006348
He better be a cool ass Komodo dragon, minus the dragon type
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>Salandit becomes Medusa

Your in my fucking team if this is the case
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>>29007144
And?
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>>29006938
Burden of proof lies withing you retard, not the other way around.
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>>29007187
I think we might get split evos. Only female Salandit is said to produce aromatic scent. And the riddler says that a bandit into any of the proposed evolutions is a drastic change with a smirk.
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>>29006348
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>>29006455
So I decided to read it and holy shit, if it doesn't turn into something Medusa-esque I'll be highly surprised. It also just earned on a spot on my team.
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Well which one makes sense with reptiles
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>>29007059
You're right.
They're different forms
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>>29007208
>>29007392
>>29007433
Sorry to disappoint you guys, but it's gonna have a Cleopatra motif.
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>>29006539
As of right now split starter evos is just a popular belief on vp because we analyze the fuck out this shit. But I assure you "most" people havent even entertained the idea
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>>29006071
He could just be talking about how the starters will have a bigger role in the story this time around.
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>>29007472
Let's see
>snakes
>being a thiefy bitch
>being smug
>being a whore
Yeah I could buy it
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>>29007482
The thread it's taken from is just people spamming split evos confirmed, and it's all over youtube

Get over yourself you're hardly doing deep analysis
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>>29006650
Plain & simple. Why people are trying so hard not to see this is beyond me.
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>>29007580
Because you people are pulling it out of your ass based on nothing
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>>29007551
Most people who play the game wont be on internet forums period so my point stands.
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>>29007603
Based on nothing >>29006071
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>>29007640
No it doesn't at all

How could that point refer to people that aren't even talking about let alone aware of the final evos
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>>29006348
Considering the entry for it claims whoever smells the female's pheromones falls under its control I wouldn't be so surprised.

Maybe it's a Combee -> Vespiquen deal.
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>>29007521
I'm just saying it because of that one picture of the wall of silhouettes of gen 7 Pokemon we saw a while ago. In it Salandit's silhouette was striking a pose that, at least to me, seemed kinda reminiscent of the typical Egyptian pose (pic related). Hopefully someone has the image of the silhouettes saved that can post it. I'm probably just looking into things a bit too much though.
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>>29007603
Idk the exact translation but they were presented as having a secret WITH rockruff. That is for sure. His secret was different forms. Connect the fucking dots.
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too bad these "leaks" are so vague they're pretty much pointless until the thing he's talking about actually gets confirmed.
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>>29007666
This has been gone over to death
>>28981262

Some bullshit "editing" by OP doesn't change that
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>>29007692
>they were presented as having a secret WITH rockruff.

No. They says "Rockruff has a secret and by the way the starters also have a secret"

nothing about this implies the secret is the same.
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>>29007692
That was a mistranslation, it has nothing to do with rockruff

Why are the people so adamant about this shit the ones who have paid the least attention
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>>29006772
>>29006640
>>29006071

Medusa is right. It's going to be a Basilisk.
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>>29006348
I'll be legit mad. Salandit is my favorite alolan pokémon and I don't want waifubait. I hopr the gender-based evo ia real so at least male Salandit is free from that nonsense
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>>29007687

Not him but
What wall are you talking about
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>>29007739
They'll pull a vespiqueen
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>>29007735
>Female Salandit becomes a Medusa
>Male Salandit becomes a Basilisk
Would be okay with this.
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>>29007740
There were a couple of pics of some wall in a building that had a painting of a Pokeball surrounded by silhouettes of gen 7 first stage Pokemon posted here around a month ago, maybe more.
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>>29006348
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>>29006640
At least someone understands that only one of them applies to Salandit

>>29006772
This is what I'm thinking. We'll probably be getting a Medusa pokemon and a Cleopatra pokemon but only one of them will be Salandit's evolution
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So Alola Ekans/Arbok will be the counterpart to Salandit?
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>>29007710
To be fair, nobody translated it that way until they day Lycanroc's multiple forms were revealed.
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>>29007071
Maybe a split evo? I don't mind a waifumon evo, but I still want a big smug komodo dragon
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>the gaze of the basilisk is fatal when direct and an indirect gaze - by reflection among others - results in petrification, reminding of the Medusa myth
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>>29007873
People were saying it the whole time, it's just that no one cared till then
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>>29007873
Yes they did, thats why many got hyped when corocoro mentioned they were going to reveal rockruff secret
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>>29007873
Even with it being translated that way common sense would still tell you their secret is the same. He & the starters were even grouped in the same graphic together where it was said. These guys are just idiots or trolls.
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>Nearly everyone loves Salandit and plans to use it right now
>In less than a year people will call anyone who likes its evo a furry
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>>29006071
>Salandit becomes a Medusa basilisk
>Glare, Corrosion Toxic, and Will-o-wisp
IS EVERYBODY READY
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>>29007985
The only idiots here are the stupid fags like yourself who believe for one second that we'll be getting split evolution's
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>>29007997
Pretty much. It's going to be a worse cancer than Helioisk
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>>29007985
No. It said Rockruff has a secret and then in a separate sentence it says the starters also have a secret. Also keep in mind that when this CoroCoro was out, the starters, rockruff, and komala were the ONLY non legendary pokemon they even revealed for the game.
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>>29008022
>Digglet used Earthquake
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So is Salandit going to be featured in something for this to be relevant?
I thought this month's corocoro was for Type:Null
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>>29008040
Do you have any guesses on what else the starters secret could be? Cause I honestly dont. Anything z-move related wouldnt be much of a secret at this point.
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>>29008028
It'll probably more prevalent though, since it'll have a lot more competitive use than Heliolisk
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>>29008148
>Anything z-move related wouldnt be much of a secret at this point.
Z-move maybe, but z-power itself might still hold a few secrets.
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>>29008086
Could be "shin" as in "shinka", evolution.
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>>29006071
If the starters have split evolutions, they better fucking be available in both games and not version-exclusive like Lycanroc. I would be so fucking pissed if they split them between games and my planned version got the shitty one.
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>>29007997

That's pretty much Popplio's case, except he's not as loved (clearly) but still has some people around it.

Also, I'm not sure if furry fits Salandit's case given that it's a lizard. Scalie? Whatever the fuck lizard fuckers call themselves.
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>>29007471
Yea ... normal and Z form/ bond form.
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>>29008777
they call themselves car fuckers, probably
neato trips tho
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>>29008777
They fall under the derogation "furry"
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>>29008148
>he starters secret could be? Cause I honestly dont. Anything z-move related wouldnt be much of a secret at this point.

Same thing goes for split forms.
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>>29006071
> there are things we don't know yet
How the fuck does this qualify as a leak?
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>>29007260
In other words, you are talking through your ass. Bravo faggot.
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>>29008290

Pretty much this. Version exclusive splits seem like a hassle even if you get them by trade and gendered evolutions would be chaotic to breed even if they make sense. At least with day and night, it would allow both paths (?) to support both genders as well.

Of course, there's also max Amie splits and to those who know what they're doing, if not-max Amie evo is the one they want, they barely have to try and if someone wants the max Amie one, all they have to do is pamper their little shit as much as they can.
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>>29009037
>Show me proof that I am wrong.
No, it's your job to show proof that you are right. Holy shit no one can be this stupid.
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>>29009037
Theres a new pokemon based on Russell's teapot, it's popplio's other final evo
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>>29008777
"Scalie" is the correct term, but "furry" is generally used as a brought term to mean "wants to fuck something with animal characteristics" now rather than specifically being things with fur. This is because people like scalies would try to claim they're not furries under the old definition, despite doing the exactly same things furries do and acting the same way, just because they hate the stigma (even though people hate furries for their behavior, not their name).
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>>29007640
And the groups who don't won't even be aware of The Riddler so why would he waste any time on addressing them?
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>>29008045
>Salamence, Swampert, Celebi are all useless because 4x weakness
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Just give me one, ONE reason why I should believe split evos for the starters could be a possibility.

And don't mention that wrong translation from ages ago.
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>>29009855
Because I don't like the final evos but can no longer deny them
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>>29007865
>Cleopatra pokemon
Nobody seems to be pointing out how absolutely retarded this sounds. You dumbasses casually throw it out like if it's not weird or stupid. Might as well talk about a Julius Cesar pokemon or a queen Elizabeth pokemon
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>>29009938
Or a Napoleon Pokemon
Oh wait
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>>29009954
Napoleon is one person. Cleopatra, Cesar, and Elizabeth can be any number of people
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>>29010004
There has been several Napoleon just like there has been several Cleopatra, but in both cases it is clear which individual the pokémon are based on.
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>>29009938
Never said the idea of a Cleopatra Pokemon is good, just observing a possibility of the riddle.
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>>29010004
There were three, but regardless we all have an image of Cleopatra that you could make a pokemon from

Hell just add generic Egyptian shit and drive home it's poison, all you need
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>>29009938
We're going to get a robin hood poke

We have a bruce lee and Jackie chan poke,
even if in JP they're based on diff people

Wobuffet is based on a japanese comedian


Not to count mythology inspired people such as Mawile, frosslass, infernape
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>>29009855
1: What the riddler said
2: Leaked types paired with the starters on the Japanese website (Grass/Ground, Fire, Water/Fighting)
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>>29010214
>Leaked types paired with the starters on the Japanese website (Grass/Ground, Fire, Water/Fighting)

No they don't. Nothing about Rowlet's mid or last evolution imply it'll turn into a ground type and Popplio's mid evolution doesn't look like it turns into anything except pure Water or Water/Fairy.
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>>29010004
Like others have already said, there have been other Napoleons too. If someone's gonna mention Cleopatra, it's the one everyone knows about. In case you didn't know, that's Cleopatra VII. If it's literally any other Cleopatra, they'd have to specify which one they're referencing.
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>>29006348
>we could have gotten this
>instead we might get a vespiquen kind of thing
It just aint fair
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>>29010214
Riddler hasn't mentioned split evos once

The site was just an error, it means nothing. Do you really think they randomly added types for the final starters before anything else just to take them down. It's simply a quirk of the websites code
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>>29006071
>The riddler also shows 4 options which relate to Salandits final evolution/what they could look like.
Please no. That sounds awful.
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>>29010314
>yfw when you realize that there are people that have been saving male Combee since gen 4 in hope that they will get a new evo one day

>It's gonna happen with Salandit too
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>>29008045
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This generation sure does have a lot of feminine evos and cute Pokemon. I personally like it but I've learned that my taste is very niche so I worry about this game's reception.
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>>29007204
See? This is why people start shitposting once the evos get revealed. Why would you hope that it evolves into that when the description tells you that it's a waifumon? You're just setting yourself for disappointment, just look at clownfags
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>mfw I remembered that salandit's bio specifically focuses on the famale
>mfw combee disaster with salandit makes sense
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>>29008777
Salandit isn't a lizard.
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>>29010508
>combee disaster with Salandit
Did I miss anything? what are you talking about?
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I was expecting Salandit to get a split gender evo based on the description, but I hope it isn't just females that evolve.
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>>29010539
You know how only female combee evolve? People are saying the same thing is going to happen with salandit.
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>>29010539

Only female Combee evolve. It only has a 12% chance of being female.
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>>29010572
>>29010608
O yeah that.... FUCK NOT ANOTHER COMBEE/BURMI!!!
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>>29007472
>it's gonna have a Cleopatra motif.
>disappoint
that's fucking great, what are you on?
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>>29006071
>Also some guesses people have about the starters are not true.


This could also debunk spilt evolutions OP.
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>Salandit's evolution will be based off of Cleopatra
Julius Caesar Pokemon when?
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>>29011032
I think it's more likely to be based on Medusa seeing how she's all about snakes and snakes have breeding balls so a female evol being in charge of a gang of males makes sense.

Cleopatra could also make sense and either way they're likely gonna have a snake looking thing on their head but I don't see anything Egyptian about their design.
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>>29010243
Thats... his point.
In the data of the japoneses website one could do some changes to the mates url of the starters pokemon and find the images of Grassground, fire, water fighting. Or something like that, I dont remember the exactly procedure.
To be honest I had forgotten about that
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This sort of excites me.
Salandit is by far my favorite Gen 7 'mon introduced so far. But I always kind of assumed it would evolve into a slightly bigger version that elaborates on the thief motif and maybe stands on two legs. Any of these options seem a lot more strange and fun.
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>>29010526
Yes it is, it looks nothing like an actual salamander. It's just the translators being retards that salamander is even in the name.

Plus the dex even says its a lizard.
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>>29006348
>Is a thief
>Will steal its trainer's heart
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Who says this is the same person, or the riddler just got a little info and is just strong us along?
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>>29012373
Posted by the same account and no reason to believe this is the point were it starts being bullshit
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>>29012394
BUT I DON'T WANT ANOTHER WAIFU
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