How will Gen 6 be remembered?

>>29000578
M E G A S

>>29000578
hon hon hon baguette

>>29000578
They were the 3d ones, right?

>>29000578
It won't.

>>29000578
Fairys

>>29000578
Greninja was here,
Chesnaught is a loser.

It'll be the turning point for the series. The gen overall wasn't great, but it'll be loved in retrospect if future gens are great or reviled if future gens aren't as good as the ones prior.

I'm leaning the latter, but we'll see.

It will always be known as the tech demo gen that got cucked.

>>29000578
As objectively better than gen 4 and 5.

Once the Sinnohfoeti and Unovabortions rotate out and their bandwagon grinds to a halt so an objective analysis can be had, of course.

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>DUDE MEGAS
>DUDE FAIRIES
>everything else was rushed and shit

>>29000678

>kalosperms are this delusional

>>29000578
Megas, fairies and 3D.
Everything else was rushed or not important

As a breath of fresh air that got people back into pokemon

/vp/ keeps forgetting how popular they were with normies, blew BW/2 out of the water critically

>>29000812
Yes. Bw/2 was an abomination

>>29000812
>>29000885
free reply

>>29000885
I'll never get how people can like pokemon but hate certain gens, theres hardly huge variance

>>29000905
How was I baiting, question was how will gen 6 be remembered, not how will gen 6 be remembered by some autists on a soon to be deleted 4chan board

All you have to do is hop on metacritic and see

>>29000578
Garbage.

>>29000578
Absolute shit.

>>29000812
You mean it got casuals back into pokémon. The main difference is B2W2 is actually a quality game as where as XY is just new graphics.

>>29000885
You wish.

Gen VI is like the windows vista of pokemon games. It transitioned into true 3D, and introduced neat features along with megas/fairies and whatnot, but it's SM that's really pushing the series forward.

>>29000578
Primal Kyogre & Primal Groudon vs Primal Kyogre & Primal Groudon

>>29000975
How did you miss the point that badly

Whether it was the worse game ever doesn't matter, it was popular and critically acclaimed and the general public will remember it as such

>>29000578
Unfinished

>>29000678
???

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>>29000578
Beta test for gen 7. It's also a litmus test because its apologist fans are beta

>>29000578
The shitty, barebones transition period from 2D to 3D. A necessary and temporary dip in quality for the sake of experimentation.

>>29000578
>Current gen is shit
>1-2 years after
>Previous gen was so good guys
Every time

Personally I really liked the current gen, as someone who only really plays pokemon for 1-2 hours a day at most it's been really enjoyable. Hatching mons is nice and easy and being able to work on my living dex with just gen 6 games has been nice.
The main disappointment was the lack of battle frontier, if that would have been in ORAS then I'm sure the gen would be praised as one of the better ones. The difficulty of the games also wasn't great but I had a lot of fun replaying or/y with xp share off as well as not using megas.

>>29000578
Poorly

>>29000812
Ironically, it only got people back into pokemon by retreading things in the first generation to bring back those fans.

>>29000950
Metacritic is not taken seriously by gamers and more people are realising XY werent that great. Hop on any website and there's a lot more "it was alright but...." comments. I honestly expect the reputation of Gen 6 to fall with time. Especially if Gen 7 delivers. Then it will be known as "that rough spot between BW2 and SM

>>29001579
Stop forcing the Zelda Cycle on Pokemon

>>29000578
"Even X/Y were better than these gen 9 games!"

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>>29000578
The same way Gen 5 was.

As the glorified beta test it is.

>>29001027
Again, casuals. No value in their opinions whatsoever, really. If anything people who do know the Pokémon world in depth will only remember it as the generation that introduced 3d graphics.

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>>29000578
Worst gen by a landslide. This is the one where GF really stopped caring and realized that no matter how poor of a job they do, people will still buy the games. Fairies were just the icing on the shit cake

>>29001579
>1-2 hours a day at most
That explains it.

>>29002091
There was a recent poll on gamefaqs were XY obliterated BW/2 IIRC, and I think you're really underselling metacritic its a good way to measure general consensus

And I can guarantee it's not going to be known as "that rough spot between BW2 and SM", normies always refer to BW/2 as that shitty gen with trash and icecream that didn't include their bros. Why do people think /vp/ is in anyway representative of the millions who play pokemon

>>29002199
"Casuals" make up 99% of the fanbase, whether you like it or not

>>29000678
>Being this delusional

>>29002206
Oh boy this is the generation where it was obvious that their only interest was cashing in all they could for me too.

>>29002252
Whether you like it or not, it's still not opinion of value.

>>29002206
>Worst gen by a landslide. This is the one where GF really stopped caring and realized that no matter how poor of a job they do, people will still buy the games.
That would be Gen 5 though. 6 actually unfucked a lot of shit BW did wrong, albeit still not enough to return to the silver age of PtHGSS.

>>29000578
Transitional

>>29002306
That wasn't the question though, Big Bang will be remembered nostalgically as a classic sitcom too

The world doesn't care whether you agree or not, I'm sorry

>>29002320
Gen 5 was great. Gamefreak focused on story for the first time in forever and it was great. Normalfags don't care about the story, and were alienated by the complete lack of previous gen pokemon. Gen 5 was where Gamefreak really started doing things right, Gen 6 fucked it all up again.

>>29002252
People who played Pokemon in their childhood and look at pictures about Pikachu on Facebook is not "the Pokemon fan base"

These people don't play the games anymore, and won't have an opinion on anything outside glancing at the designs when a new game is out. My comment even mentioned that XY can't be a breath of fresh air because if relied heavily on going back to older things to bring in these former fans. I suppose with them, you will be right. But I highly doubt that is the majority of the people who bought XY.

The actual fanbase throughout the years doesn't go "that gen with the ice cream" nearly as much. Gen 6 was a Gen that wowed people very much in the early days because the expanded 3D was HYPE but afterwards people started losing steam on it. Not just here, but all over. Also, wasn't Gamefaqs the one with the poll where Generation 1 was higher than everything else combined? I'm not gonna take that poll seriously

And no I'm not. Metacritic is fine, but in a seres where every game revewes well with generally the same scores, it doesn't mean as much as what fans say on the internet.

Knock Off. I really hope they nerf it gen 7.

>>29002335
What's there to be sorry about? I'm not the disgusting casual who cares about shallow popular opinion.

>>29000578
X and Y were the first on the 3DS (like D/P were the first on DS) and the game wasn't really good because the developpers didn't know this new hardware.
ORAS were underrated because of underaged nostalgiafags.

>>29002252
Why do people think millions who play for insignificant reasons are in any way more representative than those with at least some degree of investment into the series

>>29000678
Gr8b8m8ir88/8

>>29002422
>>29002473
>>29002559
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/02/poll_vote_for_your_favourite_main_series_pokemon_games_-_20th_anniversary_edition

How about this then? I'd hope this constitutes an accurate sample and it's ongoing

ORAS beats BW/2, XY doubles it

I really like BW/2 I just think this place needs some perspective

>>29000610
Kek

>>29000578
Worse than gen 4. The true nadir of the series.

>>29002589
Again, you're linking us to a poll in which it's so easy as to anyone can vote by simply giving in two clicks. There is no way to prove these people have a consistent investment into these series whatsoever.

If gen 6 hadn't followed gen 5 would the consensus be different?

>>29002690
Best I could find, but it matched up a lot to the ~50 people polls on the usual places

Feel like we're getting into some no true Scotsman shit

>>29002589
Ive seen the results of that poll, yes. And also saw the numerous comments in that and the results article where people were surprised X and Y made it that high. Again, I dont think the generation will be despised, but I think over time, more people will grow to dislike or be disappointed with it, as it's reputation now is already a lot worse than when it started.

Also, I'm not sure if there is a flaw in separating each and every game. I feel that may end up not giving a clear enough picture.

>>29002589
>>29002785
Like, DP were most likely loved when they came out too.

Games like Crystal and Emerald are still highly regarded today. Will XY still be loved as much as it is now in say, 5 years? This is what I'm arguing. They wont be

>>29002785
Yeah separating them was pretty dumb, I just added them together

They're less popular now sure, but I think purely being the first in 3d will keep them in the top 5 lists for years

>>29002406
Gen 5 is so bad Gen 6 actually shits on features, pokes and types associated with them. Also they only get the embarrassing Mega Audino.

>>29002846
God no

I was more going against the idea that they're as widely hated as they are here, especially compared to gen 5

>>29000578
Gen 6 exists?

>>29002874
Oh no, I dont think they are either. I dont think people find them to be the saviours of the franchise like people say, but they definitely arent the worst thing ever to the majority of the fanbase. Though I have seen a few people feel motivated to stop buying new games after XYORAS.

As a tech demo for Gen 7

I legit don't understand the gen 6 hate.

X/Y are arguably better than RBY, GSC, RB, DP, and at least on the same level as BW1.

I'd say it'd be recognized as one that probably brought a new fans into the series and was a pseudo-revival of the original games, but among those who've played all of the gens, it'll be considered one of the weaker ones. It's actually a lot like Ace Attorney in some respects: the original trilogy is like Gens 1-4, Apollo Justice is like Gen 5 (departed a great deal from the rest of the series and got mixed to poor reception), Dual Destinies is Gen 6 (both were designed for new players and were much easier/casualized, and were 3D)and Sun and Moon are Spirit of Justice (big improvements on the previous games and better take advantage of 3D).

>>29002938
This.

>>29002970

Being better then gen 1 means nothing since gen 1 is a broken mess. As for the rest, I hold BW above X/Y. X/Y were great for mechanical upgrades but the SP is shit.

According to the cycle, it will be widely loved while SM gets called "Worse than dog shit". Then mostly forgotten come Gen 8

>>29003089
Or like Fire Emblem Awakening

>>29003195
STOP

FORCING

THE

ZELDA

CYCLE

ON

POKEMON

>how to get guaranteed (You)s: thread
Just say the opposite opinion of everyone here

Kys itt

>>29003267
>s-s-stop pointing out facts!!!!

>>29003320
There is no Pokemon Cycle.

"Hold on, I need to grind the Battle Chateau to buy more clothes."

>>29000678
The thing is, you're not wrong because of the nostalgia pandering.

>>29003320
What facts?
According to your cycle people should be loving gen 4 and hating 5 when theopposite is and has always been true.

>>29000678
Kalosperm

Not even once

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>>29000678
>>29000812
>>29000885

>>29003862
But you're wrong.

>>29003862
Look outside /vp/. Hell, even /vp/ has a lot of it, it's just that every gen gets hated here so it's not as obvious

>>29000578
As the best gen

>>29004715
/vp/ is an amalgamation of all of the internet's pokemon fans. Ignoring the opinions in here is stupid

>>29000578
Megas and mistakes.
Ans fairies.

>>29005408
You honestly believe that?

>>29005447
We know that /vp/ gets people from Reddit, Tumblr, YouTube, Facebook, other 4chan boards, and several Pokemon Forums.
We also know /vp/ is like 40% girls and has people from underaged 14 year old kiddies to 30 year olds.

The ONLY people who say /vp/ can't be trusted are people with unpopular opinions

>ITT: losers pretend that pokemon isn't super casual

In any case, it'll be remembered like the rest of the games are remembered off of vp: fondly by some, disliked by others, and 'just there' for everyone else. Game taste is purely subjective, so there will be no true consensus even in the same gen (for example: I love gsc, xy, and bw, but I hate rse, oras, and bw2). After a year or so, people will find things in the new game that aren't perfect/up to par, and will bring in the next wave of gen wars. It's nothing that special.

>>29002853
Gen 6 is so bad, GF literally just gave up on Kalos

Megas

>>29000578
Tips

>>29005929
How the fuck does someone like BW, but not Bw2