NON-PUSSY RIVAL CONFIRMED WE BARRY 2.0 NOW

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>>28985987
Serena was serious about winning too

>>28985987
Sauce?

>>28986022

more like serious about hopping on the dick

>>28986022
obviously not since she never won lol

dumb whore

>>28985987
But barry is the most annoying character in the entire franchise

>>28986022
Serena was the only one, though. In that shitfest of "rivals" that was xy.

>>28986022
Yes and a failure, but we have someone new to fix that mistake.

>>28986050
that's a weird way to spell serena

>>28986037

>female (((rivals)))

>>28985987
he starts with the starter you're strong to, then picks the kanto starter you're weak to

Hugh was motivated as well. Actally got shit done, as well

>>28986073
That's a weird way to spell Hugh

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>>28986117
>he picks the starter you're strong to then boxes it after he realizes it's shit then goes on to build a very balanced dick kicking team

>>28985987
>NON-PUSSY RIVAL CONFIRMED
> BARRY
Pick one

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>>28985987

>>28985987
Barry was one of the best rivals, he was fun and actually competitive. He also felt somewhat intimidating due to being the Tower Tycoon's son, an elite trainer.

>>28985987
I'm still on the fence. When I heard about the malasadas shit I was expecting Tierno 2.0, and Hau has definitely been better than Tierno from what little we've seen of him, but I don't know if we've seen enough to judge him as Barry-tier.

>>28985987
ok, barry is the best rival

>>28986207
Fucking this
With Serena, all we got was "m-muh parents are strong trainers" with no examples shown throughout the entirety of X and Y

>>28986176
Lol. Saved.

Fucker still smiling and shit. Can GF emote nicely with their models? Holy shit. You have millions of dollars yet you can't invest a staff improving program.

>>28986158
>Second highest leveled team in the series, is the first rival to fight side by side with you in the evil team climax, goes all the way to the Pokemon League before battling you to decide who will challenge it
>Friendly but competative

Barry was a great rival

>>28986022
>Serena/Calem
Fixed it for you, because you people seem to forget the fact that the rival depends on which protag you pick.

>>28985987
are you idiots really this desperate to praise everything about sun and moon

nothing about that line and that expression suggest he wont be another annoying friendly rival

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>>28986176
ah fuck you i just made this

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>>28986333
>Implying Calem is canon
What a colossal waste of triple digits

>>28986344
He's not trying to dance everywhere and constantly check my pokedex so he's fine in my book.

>>28986333
no one actually picked serena unironically

>>28986391
>giving a fuck about pokemon "canon"

>>28986391
Every game is a parallel universe and therefore every option is canon you fucking faggot

>>28986397
you dont know yet
he can be even more annoying than tierno
he can stop you in every town and island to check your pokedex while dancing

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>>28986397
>He's not trying to dance everywhere
>Pic related
Well, at least it's better than 4 fucking cringe "friends"

>>28986397
...or you know he could be terribly bland and boring which is even worse.

>>28986484
No it's not. I'd rather Tierno was boring than a dancing fat faggot

>>28986491
Well then, if you'd rather have a completely pointless character instead of someone you hate and who actually makes beating them worth it, then I don't know what's the point of arguing what kind of rival you want in the games.

>>28986557
>Well then, if you'd rather have a completely pointless character instead of someone you hate and who actually makes beating them worth it
are you trying to pretend Tierno is as satisfying to beat than Silver or Blue just because we "hate" him?

>>28985987
Too bad losing isn't actually possible

>>28986244
If I remember you can actually meet her dad in Snowbelle City and he's just a generic NPC.

You don't even battle him despite even meeting him. What the fuck, man.

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Anything that isn't the lardass or coconut head fag from XY is an improvement in my book.

>>28985987
Was barry good? I don't remember

>>28986674
One of the better rivals for sure

>>28986674
He was an annoying fuck but had a pretty good team and showed up on every other route so /vp/ masturbates over him

>>28985987
Barry was gross
I should fine you for comparing the worst rival to what looks to be a promising rival

>>28986710
>>28986708
t. faggots that lost to barry

>>28986576
No, you set that comparison yourself. It has to be at least better than a pointless battle that equals no rival at all.

>>28985987
Too bad he gets the starter that's weak to yours though

>>28986674
His personality is pretty polarizing. But he has arguably the most consistently good teams throughout his games.

>>28986719
I'm fining you $1000000 for thinking that I lost to Barry

>>28986073
I bet you 1,000,000,000 dollars it's not
>Continuously runs into characters the whole game cause lol so randum

>>28986674
DO YOU FIND ME AN INTERESTING CHARACTER??????????????? IM FINING YOU TEN MILLION IF YOU DONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then five seconds later ARE YOU STILL THINKING ABOUT IT???????? IM FINING YOU TWENTY MILLION THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rinse and repeat through the entire game

>>28986710
It doesn't look any more promising than your average rival, really, hasn't done or said anything that stands out in comparison to past rivals.

>Hau
>Rival

The real rival is Gladion

>>28986750
>>28986743
wot

>>28986762
I love him. At least he has a sense of humor most rivals seem to have discarded nowadays.

>>28986820
>barry
>sense of humor

you must be literally retarded to find anything about barry funny and i really, really refrain from using that word

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>implying Gladion isn't your true rival

>>28986820
You owe me $100000 for finding Barry's shit funny.

I hope they've taken notice at the complaints of the game being a tad bit too easy and they've ramped up the difficulty.

>>28986815
t. Unovabortion who never played a Sinnoh game

>>28986872

Lmao

You will be disappointed

>>28986022
Are you implying Blue or Silver weren't serious too?

>>28986872
>I hope they've taken notice at the complaints of the game being a tad bit too easy
I'm sure they did
They're making sure it's a lot easier this time instead of just a tad

>>28986872
Yeah, they won't give a shit

>>28986893
>>28986906
Overleveling won't be as much of an issue this time since they put EXP scaling back in

>>28985987
barry was actual shit

>>28986872
They added the EXP scalling from gen 5 back, so who knows maybe they did

>>28986850
>>28986871
Uh, just because I recognize someone has a sense of humor doesn't mean I find it funny. That depends on MY sense of humor. Now not knowing what a sense of humor is, that is retarded.

>>28986941
he had one joke, and that was running into you and then telling you that you owed him money

that's not a sense of humor

>>28986941
>Uh, just because I recognize someone has a sense of humor doesn't mean I find it funny

Don't pull this stupid shit, i could say Blue, Silver and pretty much every other rival also has a sense of humor because at some point they have a line that ressembles a joke or something they find funny themselves

We already know you have mental problems for loving Barry, no need to backpedal now

>>28986918
The EXp scaling in gen V was't balanced at all. You still got more EXP than in gen IV until you were way overleveled.
Gen V EXP scaling combined with gen VI Exp. Share would be more broken than anything we have seen so far.

>>28987074
>until you were way overleveled.
No. Literally 1 level over your opponent and your EXP gained started getting cut hard.

It worked too. Gen 5 was easily the most challenging generation imo, even without using challenge mode

>combined with gen VI Exp
speak for yourself, I'm turning that shit off ASAP

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>>28987123
>speak for yourself, I'm turning that shit off ASAP
You don't even know if that will be an option

I browse nintendo forums and some people complained about the on/off toggle because they accidentally turned it off sometimes and the game became "too hard"

You know how scared of displeasing kids nintendo is. They might just force it by default.

>>28986073
Be careful, the two or three ashnime general autists who sperg out over their precious waifu Serena are probably wathcing

>>28987148
>implying
they let you walk instead of run and it's a key item

pessimistic fucks like you are ruining this board

>>28987170
>implying anime autists care about the game incarnation
>implying anime autists even play the games anymore

>>28987148
That would probably be the thing that turns Pokemon off for me forever. Please knock on wood.

>>28985987
>WE BARRY 2.0 NOW
Please no. Have this new guys' team be better or at the very least just as good, but please don't have him lean on one "joke" for the entire game.

Fucker reminded me of this neighbor I had when I was a kid where both of his parents were doctors. Had to scream every fucking word he spoke. Once followed another kid into his church bathroom because he was telling them all about pokemon.

Just replace "pokemon" with some random amount of currency and you've got Barry.

>>28987074
>>28987148
>Using Exp. Share

Seriously, man? How could you keep that on the second you learned it gave EVERYONE exp? I also doubt that they're going to suddenly make it an inherent feature.

Barry was the first mega pussy, what are you talking about? I'd rather a rival without ADHD

>>28987188
>pessimistic fucks like you are ruining this board
Dunno, i find retarded drones like yourself that keep parroting about how Sun Moon is the best game ever before even touching it are way worse.

I'd rather have a rival who starts out as an asshole and ends as a respectable rival

When they're super friendly from the get go, it didn't make me want to beat them
They just end up being kind of annoying

Sub Barry and Bianca

>>28987208
May was the first pussy, actually. Compared to Blue and Silver at least

>>28986463
>chicken skin
>chicken-chan

>>28986963
Wew lad, remember this is all in the context of young children going on an adventure. You need to stop being so bitter.

>>28986979
But Blue did have a sense of humor. Also source for saying Silver said a joke? Ever? You're pretty much pulling this out of your ass because of your bias. It's okay now, you don't have to be so triggered about fictional characters. Makes you look autistic.

>>28987230
>May was the first pussy, actually. Compared to Blue and Silver at least
Well, yeah she was the first pussy out of the three. Not for the reason you're thinking though.

>>28987250
>loving a literal autist so much to defend it against pretty much everyone else
>calling others "autistic"

You need to stop posting and rethink your life

>>28985987
>WE BARRY 2.0 NOW
SINNOH CONFIRMED MY DUDES

>>28987219
Game Freak has never outright removed an option as huge as getting 250% more EXP. You're being pessimistic for the sake of it.

>>28987360
Can you even read? he's not talking about removing exp share. he's talking about the complete opposite

>>28987289
But surely you took your time bashing him too? That doesn't make you any less autistic, or validates you to call out anyone as such. If anything, just stop posting.

>>28987360
GameFreak changed the exp curve several times before. Nothing stops them from just making you get 250% more exp after a certain point if they feel like it other than your cries of "d-don't be pessimistic you're upsetting GF-sama j-just preorder the games without questioning anything"

>>28986050
Exactly why he's a great rival

You actually WANTED to beat him

>>28987409
>being this offended because someone said your favourite character is annoying

You really need to stop posting and find therapy asap.

>>28987415
>w-we have no evidence to the contrary so I'm right!
Faggot, I'm saying it's not likely at all

>>28986799
>>28986858
your chuuni dio fuckboy isn't going to do anything

>>28987074
What the fuck? Yes it was. It pretty much facilitated the use of a full team. You were usually around level 50-55 at the end too, right around N's level.

If you used one mon you got punished for it.

>>28987436
>repeating the same point over and over
Ah, so you ran out of arguments I see. I guess we're done here then.

>>28987415
>Nothing stops them from just making you get 250% more exp after a certain point
Nothing is stopping them from only allowing you to have three pokemon in your party at any given time either.
Fucking GF.

>>28987499
your point is literally
>barry is annoying
>NO HES BEST RIVAL HE FUNNY HE SENSE OF HUMOR
>he was never funny
>NO HE IS U BITTER ADULT U DONT KNOW WHAT SENSE OF HUMOR IS
>he had as much sense of humor as every other rival so far
>NOOOO! AUTIST. U AUTIST! NO BARRY AUTIST U AUTIST LALALA LOVING BARRY FINE HATING BARRY AUTIST

so yes, i'm glad it's over.

I want an asshole rival in the vein of Red or Silver. Will we ever get one of those again?

>>28987547
>I AM SILLY!
You sure showed him.

>>28987547
I don't actually have to say anything else, you just proved how autistic you can be yourself.

>>28987669
>you didn't had any serious argument when you didnt tried to argue back

You don't say.
Too bad you're still the one who honestly believe Barry is a good character and got offended enough by a random internet stranger calling him annoying that you started this entire conversation.

>>28987721
Why are you continuing this? Everyone here already knows Barry is shit.

>>28987193
I wasn't saying that I was using the exp share. I was just saying that using the exp share together with gen V level scaling would be more broken than it is in gen VI.
Or in other words, not using the exp share in gen VII will let you level faster than without it in gen VI.

>>28987699
You said you used base 50 exp in your first example, not base 100. Also, gen VI used the same EXP formula as gen 5 but took out the scaling, so going back to the gen 5 formula means that Pokémon will be getting less EXP than in Gen 6, which does mean the games will be a little bit harder.

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>>28986609
Only because the games are shit now.

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Literally wrong. In gen IV if a you had a pokémon at level 50 fighting a wild pokémon at level 50 with base 100exp you will get 714exp points. We're ignoring all other stuff like Lucky Egg, Trade bonus, Trainer bonus and so on.
Now take the same with the gen V formula, and you get 1001. That you with a lv50 pokémon fighting a wild lv50 pokémon with 100base exp.
Let's use that formula again, now with your pokémon at 65 and the wild one still at 50 with 100 base exp, it's not until now that the result is 714.

In this case it means that you have to be 15 levels above the pokémon in gen V to get as little exp as in gen IV.That's a fucking lot. Obviously the exact amount of levels you need varies by both base exp and the opponent's level, lv50 and base 100 exp are pretty neutral values.
>>28987765
Yes, it was a typo, but my calculations are correct. Here is the relevant graphs.
Gen IV and VI uses the same formula, just with a bunch of additional shit you can add like O-powers, amie and such.

>>28987721
That would be the third time rewriting the same argument. Weak.

>>28987802
Yet you still play them

OFFICIAL RIVAL TIER LIST

>GOD TIER
Blue

>HIGH TIER
Silver
Hugh
Barry

>GOOD TIER
Wally
Cheren

>HOP ON MY DICK TIER
Bianca
Serena
Shauna

>GARBAGE TIER
Tierno
Trevor

>>28987932
put Cheren, Hugh, and Barry in the trash

>>28987986
kys

>>28987932
>barry better than wally
>hugh anywhere near "good"

"no".

The only reason i don't put Barry into Tierno tier is because his teams are good to fight against, but he still annoys the fuck out of me.

Nothing about Hugh is redeemable though
An entire character built on "muh sisters purloinn" that last an entire game just like the stupid barry joke but without a good team to back it up

>>28987802
>Sand Attack
>sweep
So challenging

>>28987932
Hugh is garbage.
His teams are weak and his personality is just "muh purrloin" and "UNLEASH MY RAGE".

>>28987932
>Hugh
>High tier
Pick one (1)

Anyone who isn't Wally is a shit overrated rival.

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>>28986022
>mfw with every loss she gradually got more frustrated and sad

It felt so good beating her into submission.

>>28987802
This is not hard if you play as an adult with knowledge of the game. It just seemed hard when you first played it because you were a clueless kid that was pretty much just smashing buttons. Later games might be somewhat easier due to bug fixes and a wider pool of available pokemon and movesets, but not by that much.

>>28988132
I kind of felt bad that we caused a supposed battling prodigy to fall into a depression and give up on their dreams

none of the other rivals take it nearly as harshly as Serena/Calem

>>28988251
blue loses his newly found champion status mere minutes after getting it, with a complete round of humilliation from his grandpa right after

but instead of becoming a mopey fucker he goes into viridian guns blazing and just take over the gym for himself

>>28986333
This, I never pick Calem lol

>>28987230
I wish May was my first pussy...

>>28987802
>Now
M8, Ruby and Sapphire forced you to beat the rival each time and that was 14 years ago.

Hope it's not Barry 2.0, that Autistic spazz still haunts my dreams, along with the whole opening of that game, really.

>>28988718
>>The rival battle in route 110
Fuck, it took me so many ties, I ended up having tounbox a Slakoth with Yawn to put Groovyle to sleep since it beat Marshtomp every time and i had no one turn sleep moves.

>>28987250
>Smell ya later
>Implying Silver wasn't a twelve year old edgy autist

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>>28986557
>makes beating them worth it

I get no satisfaction from beating a team as lackluster as Tierno's. At least Blue and Silver have a full team of six, even if Silver has NFEs at Victory Road and RB Blue has laughably bad movesets. Both are still vastly superior to pic.

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>>28988251
Serena/Calem learned the valuable lesson of no matter how hard you try you will always lose.

>>28989100
That's sad and untrue, anon. Try harder next time.

>>28987193
>How could you keep that on the second you learned it gave EVERYONE exp?

I didn't realize it gave 350% the normal experience, I assumed it worked like the Gen 1 Exp. All. When I realized how overleveled I was the game was already ruined, not that XY had much to ruin in the first place.

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>>28989100
>A deal's a deal, Serena, now you gotta hop on my dick!

>>28987932
Where's Eusine?

>>28989260
>only battles you once
>rival

>>28988251
>Serena starts to cry after losing for the 20th time
>"A weak trainer with a weak spirit. How fucking fitting."
>"W-who are you to decide that?! I've come this far all by myself! That has to count for something!"
>"If it really meant anything, you wouldn't be bawling your eyes out like a child that didn't get her way. Face it, you're a fraud. A joke. You didn't even face the Elite Four."
>"You're wrong..."
>"Didn't anyone ever tell you to respect your superiors? I've only beaten you several times now, and THAT proves I'm better than you'll ever be! Bad girls like you should be punished for your badmouthing."
>punch
>"AAAAAHHH! No... stop..."
>"Oh, what's this? A Mega Ring? That sure came in handy when I crushed your Mega Absol with one hit. It wasn't even super-effective! Not that you'd know anything about type advantages."
>"Put it back! Y-you're going too far! Please, STOP!"
>"Mega Rings are designed to bring out a Pokemon's true potential! But what good is a potential if Pokemon are stuck with a weak trainer like you? Maybe it'd be better if someone else found it..."
>"Please... no, I'll do anything!"
>"You CAN'T do anything! You never could!"
>Serena jumps for the ring, but she's too late
>chucked in a river
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
>"Hahahaha! Cry all you want! It's gone, just with any hope you had of being a decent trainer. Just goes to show how weak you really are, Serena."
>"I hate you... I HATE YOU!"

>"Okay, look. You're not a bad trainer. I'm the Champion of the League, Serena, I'm the most powerful person in Kalos. We're above all of them, and you, Serena, you're the only person in the whole damn country who could even approach the mountain I stand on."

>"To this end I've killed your family. They're dead. And Tierno. They're all dead, Serena, but there's no value in killing the likes of you. If you want to kill me, hate me, detest me! Run away, and cling to your pitiful life. When you possess the same pokemon as me, stand before me again."

>>28989327
this is edgier than the plot of the Dark story in Shadow the Hedgehog

>>28989282
Still a rival. Number of battles doesn't matter.

>>28989327
stop posting

>>28989386
sure then
youngster joey worst rival

>>28989401
>guy that antagonizes you for Suicune's future and wants to see who gets it first and challenges you isn't a rival
>guy that you fight twice+ a tutorial that only wants to dance and doesn't even like battling much is a rival
>girl that you fight in a tutorial and in a lategame battle is a rival because ???????????

>>28989327
3/10 was getting a stiffy until he talked about killing everyone.

>>28986244
I think you guys will find Serena won all her matches and Calem is the fuccboi.

>>28985987
>non pussy
>barry 2.0
Choose one. Barry was a shit.

While we're on the subject of Serena,

THUD

>>28985987
What trailer is this from?

>>28989327
Haven't seen this copypasta in a while. Someone post the good end version.

>>28989560
/r/ing that pasta too desu

>>28988052
This!!! He has quantity and quality. If even HE can get best team, (Blue, Silver and Barry have piles of crap in their teams sorry) then why bother making edgelord rivals? Even a squirrelface can be a fearsome rival! GF knows this.

>>28989080
At least Blue got his team improved after gen 1, especially sfter the downgrade that is his Yellow team

>>28989327
literally itachi Uchiha copy pasta

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>>28990377

>>28986674
His personality was spazzy and annoying as fuck, but he was a strong rival nonetheless.

>>28989747
Me too

>>28985987
>he doesn't throw my exodious off a ship

psh... wont even give him the time of day good luck in the meme fields kid

Lol, I never played the 4th gen, and so I was assuming references to "Barry 2.0" was a reference to Barack Obama, who is half black and from Hawaii like this kid

>>28985987

>Cut deal with friend to catch each others team members starters aside.
>Use refresh to get to two hearts.
>Completely stomp him into the dirt level wise.

>>28986674
gotta go fast

>>28985987
>battle starts
>only has three pokemon, and they're all one or two shot
>golly gee anon you're really good at this!
then you find out there's only three rival fights in the game, and you can't rematch him

>>28986073
Serena was the only one of the XY """"rivals"""" who didn't make me want to atomize my 3DS at every encounter. Holy shit fuck Tierno and whoever came up with him sideways with a rusty poleaxe. Of the many, many, MANY things Gen VI as a whole did wrong, that fat fucker and his twink ginger boytoy somehow managed to be the absolute worst part of the entire trainwreck.

>>28986022
What happens if you lose to her, is she happier or do you have to beat her to progress?

>>28986134
At least he had a goal, not "muh aventures"

>>28986609
>Implying vikavolt's totem battle will be easy

>>28987932
And N?

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Please Gamefreak, just go back to giving rivals a full team of 6 Pokemon.

>>28992547
>Implying rivals don't just stand in your way until you get a lucky crit after the 5th time running back from the Pokemon Center

>>28992668
They better give them 4 useful moves as well. Seriously, how do you give someone meant to be a challenge only 3 moves?

>>28988272
Not to mention he becomes the most badass of the Kanto gym leaders and is allowed to fight in the Champions tournament in BW2. He really did manage to turn his life around after his humiliation.

>>28992839
To be fair, Blue's team got much better movesets in FRLG.

>>28992839
Masuda was the problem, have faith in based Ohmori-san

>>28986925
source?

>>28992547
If you mean the battle for the megastone she gets upset that you let her win and hands it over to you

>>28989733
>good end version
Please post it and tell me it ends in sex

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>>28989100
They weren't the only ones who learned that lesson.

>>28989005

Huh? I remember just kind of mindlessly sweeping that I didn't even grind.

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>>28986391
>obsessing over your non-existent canon
Main protag is whoever you choose. Rival then becomes the one not chosen. There's no canon to that other than your own headcanon trying to force this nonsense

>>28986414
>no one actually picked serena unironically
Sure they did. People who aren't all about self-insert immersion nonsense, and instead simply choose the character based off which one they think looks the best.

>>28986414
>girl has decent clothing options
>boy has fucking nothing unless you like fedoras

I picked boy but I can see why people would pick girl in XY.

He's more like the anti barry. Privledged as fuck town favorite, with an apparently strong family background, who instead of being chosen by their hometown guardian(Mespirit/Tapu Koko), is BTFO with it choosing to appear to the PC instead. Basically through that and the qeaker starter, Hau is someone expecting greatness, but gets cucked by the guardian, cucks himself with the starter, and is now travelling alongside you to prpve his worth and redempt his golden boy status, unlike Varry who realzoed this only when losigin to you at the victory road.

>>28992608
> vikavolts aura boosted its spatk
> charjabugs battery boosted totem vikavolts shock wave
How fugged are you famalam?

Been playing since gen 1 here.

While Blue acted liked like a true dick rival, Barry actually had battles that backed his talk. His battles were challenging and exciting.

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>>28995842
>shockwave

>>28986674
last decent one

>>28997398
can't double team out of this one senpai

>>28992655
N doesn't count. No matter how awesome his fights are.

>>28991870
Not when Wally exists. Face it.

>>28986158
>SNORLAX

Yeah what a pussy

>>28986022
Serena, despite being the only acceptable """""""rival""""""" in XY, was also the most forgettable.

>>28987932
Green*

>>28992668
But the only rival that didn't have one was Brendan/May? What the fuck are you talking about?

>>28986050
Agreed. Pearl was the only game i bought and didn't finish because I couldn't stand that fucker. Only Sinnohfetuses like him.

>>28986256
>friendly
Weird way to spell obnoxious.

>>28986674
He was the worst, unless you like ADHD monkeys that tries too hard to make kids feel like they are interacting in a non-interactive manner.

>>28987757
It depends if they make the exp gain even lower for fighting overleveled mons.

Barry is best rival

>>28994030
>call others obsessed
>have to post about how you didn't choose Calem

>>28999371

I'll just lightly pooint this out.

You didnt finish a game cos of a character that only shows up here and there.

Cos of a character. One npc.

You have issues.

>>28987986
This.

>>28987932
>May
>not on hop on my dick tier

>>28985987
>picks starter that is weak against yours
>serious

GF is making the game even more child friendly so no

>>28999480
Now tell me, if I am not having fun, why do I have to keep playing it?

I miss when most of the Characters were role models and shit instead of meme personalities based around a single trait

he's a nigger

Only 90s kids will remember this hau. #nonewhau

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>>28999660

>>28985987
>Barry 2.0
Minus being a complete spastic I thought Barry was great