No seriously. What the fuck is this?

Soft reboot.

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>>28971847

>>28971847
Just clarify that you're not talking about animation.
I know you mean that you don't like that Ash is doing all this dumb shit.

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this is from XY episode 1

>>28971847
it's telling you it's time to grow the fuck up and stop watching a cartoon for 6 year olds.

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>>28971847
Fluid animation

YOHOHO

The pokemon anime, status fucking quo

>>28971847
Ash developed a brain tumor

>>28971873
can't wait desu

I don't mind the new artstyle. What will bother me is if he goes back to being a retard like in BW.

>>28971847
>actually editing the screenshots to try and make it look dumber
sad

>>28971873
If anything, Pikachu looks more detailed to me.

threadly reminder that ash was just as dumb and immature in the first episode of XY as SM Ash

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>>28971847
He sacrificed himself so Greninja could escape the sad anime reality where no main character is allowed to be happy
Based Ash saved Greninbro

>>28971847
>>28971909

>>28971847
>cuddling a Zigzagoon during a rainstorm
CUTE
It reminds me of that snowstorm episode

>>28971921
>>28971867
Yet in the second episode he saves a garchomp and risks his life to protect pikachu. Here he looks like he'll be an idiot all throughout.

>>28971847
That's Ash's handicapped brother.

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>People are actually defending the ashnime

>>28971950

and how much of that did you know before you fucking watched it?

most of what we saw on XY's previews was him getting off a plane and yelling at nobody

>>28971985
But it's an odd generation so the anime is guaranteed to be shit.

>>28972004

>odd generation means the anime is shit

AG is better than Johto, so your premise is flawed

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>>28972031
>AG
>Good

>>28971950
we don't even know how many episodes the preview covers
all the scenes in this preview might be from the first episode

>>28971847
i dont fucking know man
and its either a hot new meme or for some reason all the cucks on this board like the new style
bunch of fucking idiots

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>>28971847
>this shitpost again
you and your hate friends has no point, op
pokemon first episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CvBNRxpRqU

>>28971847
A show for kids

>>28972031
I'm sure you haven't seen it in a while, but AG is basically just Johto: rigged contests edition.

i'm sure that /vp/ is totally retarded with no clue about anime or manga. anime is divided in category, pokemon is a kodomomuke, anime for kids. google it, /vp/'s shitposters

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>>28972281

It's for kids so it being shit is acceptable, oh ok.

>>28972404
and this art is trendy in japan, catching this extreme faces like old kodomo anime, with this cute visual. man, it is not that deep, it's in everywhere. pokemon anime is not for you guys

>>28972459
As you said it's targeted at kids. If it doesn't appeal to adults it doesn't mean it's shit.

>>28972425
I knew this was Shudo's fault
This is another attempt to recreate OS, and it will probably fail miserably like BW
Even after his death...

I feel like there wouldn't be so much backlash if they just finally used a new protagonist instead of Ash.

>>28971865
It's more like the way the animation shows Ash, like everything else is normal but Ash is retarded as fuck

>>28972593
With the direction they're heading the backlash will be way worse if a new protag is made

>>28972710
No, because at least Ash would've won and left the show like an hero.

>>28972065

and yet, again, better than Johto by a million miles

>>28971847
At least it won't be as bad as Best Wishes.

>>28972593
>muh self insert character

Ash was a clown from the start, why do people act like this shouldn't be Ash.
Follow Alain if you want your serious gary stu.

>>28972385
Are you from /vp/ watches Pokemon?

1. posting a photoshopped pic, to look worse, like OP did, to prove his case doesnt help.
2. everyone will complain, but watch it anyway, especially after playing S+M.
3. would you rather the gen be drawn like regular show, or all the other craptastic CN shows currently?

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>>28971847
bottom right looks like episode 4 of gurren lagann wtf

>>28972065
>one character makes an entire arc bad
that's not how it works

>>28971873
Reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m78gYyTrG7Y

>>28972479
This. Pokemon's art style has always shifted to be like what is popular at the time. This more extreme than previously though.

>>28971847
Bottom left automatically makes XY Ash the worst one of the bunch. They literally turned him into the biggest jobber of the series. At least ARORA Ash looks fun and not unnecessarily edgy.

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>>28973351
>Conceptual art Pokemon
oh.... gr8

Please shoot yourself and stop watching a cartoon for six year olds.

>>28971847
They could make it Adventure Time style of animation and I'd still be fine with it if they were to make it a little less saccharine like the first season or two

Who am I kidding? I would complain constantly

>>28973749
Please shoot yourself and stop playing a game for six year olds.

>>28971873
2030 Is going to be meta as fuck

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This isn't that bad....

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>>28973351
>Hertzfeldt does a Simpsons couch gag
>makes it explicitly about the Simpsons being a franchise zombie that will never die

>>28973291
emeralds arc in pokespe

>>28973939
>this is still going on

jesus christ just end it already and start on an overly complicated LORE run of XY and spend half your time writing for the backstory/romantic subplot for Sycamore and Lysander

>>28971868
This.

It's the executives way of dumping the adult fanbase once and for all.

Even Japanese kids are creeped out by adluts watching the show and playing the game.

>>28973939
Heh........that was pretty good...........gods just an allusion after all........................man.......that zeebstrike at the heart died................to bad.......

>>28971847
>no humor

>people actually prefer stocky anime art to expressive fun stuff

anime was a fucking mistake

>>28971847
>Having a personality is bad

ha, ok

>>28971847
There is some defeat that you just never get up from.

>>28974753
THIS

Ash finally gets his soul back and animefags blow their shit.

>>28974753
>>28974820
>being a perma fucking retard is """""personality""""" and """""soul"""""

>>28974753
Yeah man, this is the most personality Ash has had since BW.

This is just Dragon Ball Super all over again.

"hur dur I paused at this frame and it looked stupid wtfomg--"

Now it's extremely popular and hype as fuck and nobody is stupid enough to watch frame-by-frame.

we want the YW audience

>>28975321
>defending Super's animation

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>>28971847

>>28975388

Better than "we re-use the same punching footage 3 times per episode". Not that you'd know, since that anime was before your time.

>>28975414
>defending Super's animation
>claiming it's superior to DBZ's

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>>28971847
it's muh nostalgia anon

>>28971847
New Ash looks like if the coma theory was true and his mom pulled the plug. Instead of dying and staying dead, he revived and was mentally disabled due to lack of oxygen to the brain for a small amount of time.

>>28975462

The proof's there man. If that's not enough, then you're just a 'le master trole xD'

>>28975519
>The proof's there man.

You haven't given me any proof at all. All you said is "this is better than that" and called me underage.

>>28975474
>nostalgia
>for something that currently exists
>when there's an actual difference and it's very plausible to like one over the other
you're retarded

>>28975474
But it is the children who are wrong. That's why adults are around to tell them what's good in life.

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>post yfw the new ash wins the league after 20 years of the "good" artstyle getting fucked in the ass

>>28975620
>Ash winning the League in a region with no League

>>28975603
don't you know /vp/ memes anon? when you don't like something that is not the current one we call it nostalgia

>>28973059
Because this feels more like the beginning of someone elses story than a continuation of Ash's, so it'd feel less strange if they had used the SuMo protags in this

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>>28971847

>>28971985
They fucked up the moment they decided on the whole school thing. Do you think Ash will be an intelligent guy who knows the most about Pokemon Battling out of everyone in the class? No, he'll just act like an idiot who knows nothing.

New style is fine, but I don't get why they redesigned Ash's face when everyone else has the same style as the games.

>>28975644

Isn't the plot of the game that you're trying to get Alola a League?

Who's to say the Alolan League won't be established during the anime, and Ash will become its first-ever Champion?

>>28975859
>Isn't the plot of the game that you're trying to get Alola a League?

That's still a rumor, there's been nothing of the sort revealed officially, and I don't trust any leak until it's confirmed.

>>28971847
You complain now, but give it a year and you'll be kicking yourself for doubting it.

and yeah, I'm gonna miss when the series had "cleaner" looking stills but it's possible this fresh, looser style could be a good thing.

And if it's not? At least they tried to shake things up a little and say what you will but they have a better grasp on the color direction.

>>28975766
He'll fail all the written tests horribly but ace every practical test with flying colors. At the end of the second cour midterms will happen and Ash will be right on the cusp of flunking out as a result, and it will be an "emotional" episode where everyone tries to help him study properly and he barely squeezes by.

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>>28972281
>Comparing first episode ever to the newest anime
Is this some new level of cherry picking I'm looking at, or have I been had?

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>>28975953
And then Team Rocket shows up and makes him late for his test, so he fails it anyways.

>>28976025
No, that'll be the fourth cour finale, for the finals.

Then season two starts where he decides to properly travel Alola instead, but it's still a gag anime.

I'll only say this:

You're supposed to watch it as an animation, not as a still frame, take that into account.

>>28972425
did they fuck up drawing that star in ash's eye

>>28976263
OLM took a while to get used to Digital during the latter half of G/S.

I imagine it's a similar adjustment for them pushing their limits with ToonBoom Harmony.

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>>28976263
>You're supposed to watch it as an animation, not as a still frame

You're also not supposed to see the problems with the frames as they blatantly play out before you.

There's a fucking reason people of all ages and types are fucking SEEING the flaws, you fucking mong.

>>28976471

>what is squash/stretch

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>>28976529
I don't know if it's me trying to explain it to you that's making me angry, or if its your autistic need to ignore what I'm saying in order to provoke me.

Fuck your squash/stretch reasoning. It's supposed to be an illusion, not right out in the goddamn open for God and everyone else to see.

>>28976529
An old animation technique and a quirk in modern animation, that still holds up to this day.

Sadly the framerate of SM is shit hence the destruction of the illusion that technique was supposed to be causing.

>>28971847
Top right picture ia hilarious

>>28976631
>>28976644
Not him, but I don't even see how you guys see that shit when it's in motion from the footage I've looked at unless you're purposely looking for it.

Then again I don't get headaches from "soap opera cameras" either. Maybe I just have brain problems.

>>28976760
Some of us actually judge animated stuff by their animation.

It's weird I know, but we have watched so many shit we start recognizing styles or stuff, especially if the artist cared enough to not just create the illusion of a character moving, but actually went the extra mile to make the environment react to it.

It's an important thing, squash and stretch works as long as you key frames have a quick follow up, but if the frames go stale the illusion is broken and we receive images that break the illusion.

SM also showed us issues with proportions and non reactive environments as well as lack of shadows on one character only for them to come back on the follow up...that's really jarring.

Why are you comparing good scenes with bad scenes?

>>28977533
Because the bad scenes are worse than the good scenes.

>>28974717
this

>>28971936
>>28971950

what happened?

>>28973168
people will never let down episode 4. right?

>>28972683
isn't that how it really was in the past anyway?

>>28971873
>Pikachu has finally visible fur
I like that "Mamoru hosoda" style of animation

>>28973810
>he doesn't realize that adventure time has more mature adult themes in 8 years then pokemon has ever had since coming out in 1997

>>28973939
glorious

>>28971847
He gained a personality.

>Ash
>ever not a goofy retard
You've had a lobotomy, haven't you, OP?

>>28971847
One Piece.

XYZ did poorly in Japan because they like silly, childish, incompetent Ash.
But it did really well in the west because we don't, we'be been wanting it to get serious for a while now.

It can't be both, and trying to compromise makes them both unhappy.

So what they decided to do was make Generations for their western audience (there isn't even a Japanese sub of it. West only. Why bother, it's too serious for them.) then super kiddify Sun and Moon for Japan viewership.

We get 18 3min shorts made just for us, Japan gets a new season catering to them 100%.

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>>28980957
Although I don't disagree with you, if their choice is to mimic something like One Piece with the S/M anime there is a chance it could turn out to be better than before. I realise this is totally opinion and taste based, but I think that shows that can balance characters that can be goofy and funny in a lot of "regular" situations, with characters being able to be serious when the time comes, is when characters can really start to shine. If we eventually get cool shit happening in S/M like XYZ which I don't think anyone should rule out just yet then a build up of Satoshi with personality just to see him drop his goofiness during a really serious and tense moment can be an amazing thing.

Once again, this is totally just my opinion and I realise some other people don't think this way, but there you go. A lot of successful shounen characters have protagonists who most of the time are just goofy, but when the time comes they step up to the plate. That kind of thing.

>>28973059
Because he was semi-decent in the finals. Type advantage used correctly, setting up rain, switching... it was a lot better than his usual jobbing. It gave the illusion of progress.

>>28975904

"I don't trust any leak til its confirmed--"

Chinese Leak got:
>Ash Greninja
>Mushroom
>Rugby Monkey
>Sea Cucumber
>some Alolan Forms (and their typings)
>No gyms

Only missing Snowman, Dolphin, and a couple Alolan forms.

This is literally an impossible amount of things to simply "guess". Stop being retarded.

>>28981030
It's better to doubt and be proven wrong by something being real, than to believe and be proven wrong by something being fake. I'll believe it when I see it, even if the leaker who said it has been credible thus far.

>>28981049
RE
TAR
DED

>>28981086
I never claimed they were fake because they probably aren't, I'm just not going to treat them as fact until it's officially revealed. It isn't as if it makes any difference other than anons arguing about it on a Ukrainian fingerpuppetry imageboard.

>>28981030
chinese leak never had alolan forms. That is another leak you fag.

>>28975359

Did you mean "we want the Doraemon audience"?

>m-muh badass Ash!!
Watch actual anime for people your age please.

>>28973351
Is this supposed to be funny?

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>goes from Poke Naruto to the kid from Yokai Watch
They've somehow outdid the BW transition.

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>STILL using the art style argument

Denial fags have completion because you fucking anime fags are getting extremely salty by the day

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>>28978338
This

>>28984022

>Yokai watch

There's absolutely no similarities to it, not even the artstyle

HURR HE GOES TO SCHOOL

That still doesn't mean it's Yokai watch, going to school was never the appeal

>>28984063
Literal proof that no one here has actually watched even a couple of episodes of yokai, even for the lulz

God these threads are getting boring.

I miss the bitch that posted that rabbit and made people mad. At least that was something. These anime threads are just nothing. Piles and piles of nothing.

>>28973291
Tell that to the bw arc

Remember how Black and White started off as a serious show? Team Rocket were working behind the scenes and were competent
Then the Tsunami hit and they went back to being retards again

I hope that Japan gets hit by Tsunami again if it means it will make them change the anime

>>28979995
Wasn't that the first episode Gurren and Lagann combined? Kind of an important episode to let look like shit.

Looks like naruto in pokemon form

>>28971847
It's called dynamics. Go back to watching Teletubbies or some shit like that if that's what makes you feel comfy.

>>28984084
I did. I liked it too. Both it and game scratch a completely different itch than pokemon though.

I will say add that while it's designs would be objectivelying awful for a pokemon game, as is often brought up, they do fit the quirky nature and humor of YW to a T. They're closer to campy Halloween monsters than pocket monsters.

It's actually 10 times better

>>28973059
No, he was a pompous punk kid with a good heart from the start. He is a dumbass in this new garbage.

Avatar
Boondocks
Voltron

Squash and stretch has been used with anime stylings in the west to much success

But a lot of anime have a shit framerate so not emphasizing the still shots can be distracting

>>28981049
>all signs point to the world ending
>"get on the spaceship anon!"
>"It may seem like some of these rumors are true wnough, but I will believe it when I see it!"
Enjoy being a stubborn fool stuck in denial, friend.

>>28985633
The existence of a location in a children's game isn't comparable to the end of the world. I have nothing to lose in this case by remaining skeptical, while I would be gambling my life in your hypothetical.