Remember back in july when we thought these were the shittiest

>>28936168
>we

>we
>>28936168 (You)

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>>28936168

I think you meant to post this.

>>28936168
>we

I do vaguely remember the reaction then.

It basically goes:
>It looks like shit

When Mallow was revealed:
>Best starter ever

I mean, sure it's not necessarily the same people, but the sudden 180 change in attitude is hilarious.

>>28936180
>>28936192
>>28936224
ARE THE HAZELDEX

>>28936332
WE'LL ALWAYS SHIT THE THREAD

>>28936168
I was a believer since day 1

>>28936180
>>28936192
>>28936224
>being this new

If you actually were here you'd know that when these surfaced they had no credibility whatsoever for weeks until mallow was shown.

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>>28936168
>we thought these were the shittiest fakes ever

No, they were by far the most convincing starter evo artwork and people were discussing them a lot even before Mallow was announced. Especially with Popplio having Disarming Voice in the E3 demo.

the easy way to tell official designs apart from shit fan designs is that GF's designs aren't it JUST GETS BIGGER like 99% of the fan evos were and the design have a clever enough concept built in that only someone who had insight on what the entire line is supposed to be could get it. The same thing happened with Greninja.

>>28936168
Hey, I always wanted the Rowlet evo to be real. The other two can eat shit though.

>>28936180
>have

>>28936374
See: >>28936441

>>28936524

We're getting all three, so everyone wins. :^)

>>28936441
>"Make something that people dont expect..."
>Forcing and emo-like cat with dark and/or poison type characteristics into a luchador because we have make ANOTHER fire/fight hybrid.

Holy shit now we have more fire/fight type fire starters than other combinations.

>>28936588
fire dark supposedly

>>28936168
I hated them at the beginning but started to like Litten3 before Mallow's reveal. Once she showed up, I accepted them as real. Rowlet3 is starting to grow on me now.

>>28936588
it's fire/dark though

>>28936620
>>28936599
more weakness than some shit.

>>28936441
Is this a pasta? I could've sworn I read it somewhere.

That aside, that kind of justifications is pointless, since you can make the same kind of argument regardless of the final evo.

>>28936599
>>28936620
[Citation needed]

No, really, until it's actually revealed to be Fire/Dark, I'm going to keep being a skeptic.

I thought they were real at first, but some anons pointed out some weird stuff about it, like the massive amount of drawings and notes, so i started to believe they were fake.

Should have accepted it back then, it would make it less awful.

Knew they were real when I saw the color codes. No fakemon artist is going to bother with color codes.

>>28936270
>Best starters ever
Literally no one says that. Even now, most people only like one of them and think the other 2 are shit.

>>28936168
Maybe they'll look okay in motion?

I really wasn't feeling the mid-evos at all until I saw the min the trailer.

And yes, I was one of those who was hoping those weren't the actual evos for the sole reason that they were ugly.

>>28937353
I actually like 2 of them and only think 1 is shit.
Certainly not the best starters ever, but a large improvement over gen 5, with one OK and two shit, and gen 6, with one great and two shit

always thought they were amazing designs and glad they are actually real.

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>>28936168
>liked them when they first leaked
>liked them now

Don't see why everyone hates them so much.

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>>28936441
>seventh bipedal fire starter in a row
>fourth fire/fighting or at least fighting related fire starter
>second wrestler motif fire starter

>clever

I can't believe you people sometimes

I don't really understand why not more people think that rowlet3 is going be this gens greninja. its design is amazing

>>28937458
beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm just hoping their models look better than the art.

I loved Rowlet3 and Popplio3 the first time I saw them, and disliked Litten3. Then I dismissed it as just another "fake leak that looks good" and that's it.
Then Mallow got revealed and jumped directly to the "real" camp

>>28936441
Honestly I fucking hate Tigermask, but it's better to be polarising that outright boring like every litten fanevo there. At least owl and mermaid are good.

>>28937466
Clever as in "unexpected but makes sense" not "I like everything you do, gimme more shit to eat GF"

>>28937353
That may be. But considering these >>28936441 exists - that includes the Popplio and Rowlet ones - someone definitely think like that.

Although that may just be one person, and it doesn't exactly disprove what you said, so eh.

>>28937517
You're most likely talking to a kid with autism that has discovered 4chan recently. Don't expect children to understand context as they think everything has their literal meaning.

>>28937781
That's a lot of projecting anon.

When is next corocoro or next pokemon official reveal?

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>>28937825
b-bump

>>28937884
should be leaked around 12ish/13ish
next trailer on the 14th

>>28937825
>>28937884
>>28937899
And prepare your anus for demo datamining on the 18th.

>>28937899
Was that the 14th for Corocoro or next Nintendo official reveal?

>>28937934
14th for trailer, 12th/13th for corocoro leaks

>>28937899
>>28937928
as long as coro coro is not just more UBs and the trailer is the same UB minus the coro coro exclusive one it should be neat

>>28937934
coro coro releases around the 15th, so stuff always gets leaded on the 11 (if were lucky) to the 14ish

>>28937934
Next official Nintendo is 14th. Might be a rehash of Corocoro, might be something else.

>>28937962
Coro coro has exclusivity on something so theres gotta be something substantial on coro coro.

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>>28937952
>>28937959
Tyvm lads, can stop scratching at the bugs under my skin now that I've had my fix for dates

>>28937962
>>28937967
Yeah would make sense that CoroCoro gets the exclusive reveal, while Nintendo just do a small reveal, especially leading to the demo, maybe just another single Pokemon reveal like Turonator or Salandit?

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>>28937353
>most people only like one of them and think the other 2 are shit.
I love all three of the starters and think all three of them are the best set of starters we've had. Not everybody shoves sticks up their asses and gets needlessly pissy about Pokemon.

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Bet you feel like a real fucking dumb stupid-ass retarded idiot shit-for-brains dunce now, don't you, OP?

>>28936741
Why would you think its Fire/Fighting? Just because he is big and masculine?

>>28938210
>toxic masculinity
FIRE/POISON CONFIRMED

>>28937466
Emboar is based on a kettle, not a wrestler

>>28937467
It's really good. I think it'll definitely be in the next Smash.

Plenty of people liked them back then and thought they had chances of being real, and plenty of people like them now as well. Opinions exist, and if you feel the need to revise history just to make it seem like a board as a whole complies with your opinions you should really take a break and go outside.

>>28938261
Not the same guy you responded to but he's wearing wrestler clothes. You cant be that blind. Look at his second evo it starts there.

>>28938210
Kinda. When making assumptions, I just prefer to go with the one that requires the least mental gymnastic. So basically:
>big and masculine
Fire/Fighting it is.

Of course, I might be proven wrong - and indeed, there are a lot of examples where I was - but that's for later.

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>>28938261
Emboar's design is mostly based on an ancient Chinese warrior. Serperior is French, and Samurott is Japanese.

Pignite however is an old timey wrestler. Which is really awkward in retrospect.

>>28936168

I still think they are fake.

I know for a fact you guys are all just shit posting and this is just some forced meme. Well I'm not falling for it.

>>28938446
Two leaks pretty much confirmed them, Mallow is in Litten3's, Brionne happened, and when Torracat's bell flares up it's the same basic shape as Litten3's belt.

The bios also help lead us towards these being correct. Dartrix mentions it's attitude changing when it can't focus and that's right in Rowlet3's art.

Then there's catpunch. Plenty of denialfags switched sides today. Might just join their ranks.

Warming up to litten. Rowlett3 gives me a gren vibe that I'm digging, hope the final design gets tweaked a little I don't like his face.

Popplio is an irredeemable short dicked faggot and his siren bitch evo looks like something from a Dr. Suess porno

>>28936168

>archer owl pulls its leaf "drawstrings" to close its "hood"

>archer owl pulls its leaf "drawstrings" to act as bowstrings

Why doesn't the hood close when archer owl is using its "bow"?

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>>28936168
Yeah and I remember that some faggot started to praise them like the Christ's come back and making a shiton of spamthread.
It made hate them even more.

>>28938493
>it's the same basic shape as Litten3's belt.
Nope.

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>>28938625

It does.

>>28936741
>>28938210
And why would he be fire/dark? Just because he has black details?
He's LITERALLY a wrestler.
Game freak fucked it up, they could at least be consistent at this point.

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>>28936168
I had a feeling they were real the moment Mallow was confirmed. Still hoped otherwise
Now I only have the possibility of a split evo to hope for, but that's a grab in the dark.

Now they are the shittiest offical pokemon ever

>>28936168
Remember when they were confirmed in August? Good times.
>some denialfags still haven't offed themselves

>>28936168
I've actually always like Robinhoot, Luchatigre grew on me after time and Poppkie I like for a feminine design, least favorite of the three, but better in execution than Delphox.

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>>28936168
Yeah you're right, that's exactly how it was. You couldn't find a single post praising them. But everyone jumped on the "I-I liked them all along!" bandwagon. Now calling them ugly brings out the bandwagon defense force.

>>28936270
Same thing everytime, as soon as something turns out to be real /vp/ gets up in arms to suck GF's dick

It's like Stocholm Syndrome all up in this bitch

>>28939137
As other people has put it before, he's a HEEL wrestler. The bad guy. Plays dirty.

It's not exactly difficult to see him being Fire/Dark.

Although if that's the case, Fighting/Dark would make more sense, but that's not the point.

>>28936441
>it's good because it's unexpcted
I also enjoy going to a dinner, asking for a steak and getting a pile of shit. It's good because it's unexpected
>expanding on the subtler themes
There is literally nothing, nothing on Litten that indicates wrestler theme. None. Not even Torracat has that. The wrestler motif literally comes out of nowhere on LuchaLitten

Also
>it's another fire starter that is 4-legged that ends up humanoid with a animal head
>it's another fire/fighting. Even if it ends up fire/dark is pretty much Fire/fighting in design alone
>it's another fire starter mixed with a fighting style, because Blaziken, Emboar and Infernape were not enough
>it's not even a new fighting style, Emboar also has the wrestler motif

Whoa man, so clever and stuff

>>28936441
It would look good. If it didn't have cartoony proportions, and less of a cartoony face. They could have done a lot of great things with it, but I just do not like this thing whatsoever.
Hawlucha is great, though.

>>28936441
If you wanna talk about themes... Roothoot has knives as projectiles, this kitten could have gotten bombs. Either like Bomberman, or by literally shooting them (thus giving Exeggutor's signature move to it, albeit somewhat modified) out.
Ballio had those hard water balls that he balanced on, it sucks that shit hasn't been used in any form.

>>28939394
>>28939394
Emboar has the Chinese big warrior theme, not the wrestler one.
Even if Torracat evolves into a fire/fighting "wrestler", for the Japanese people it's a complete different concept from the other fire/fighting starters.

Blaziken obtains the fighting second type because it's based on a fighting rooster.
Infernape is part fighting type because is modeled on Son Goku, a mythological hero and a free style fighter (every other character modeled on him is a strong fighter anyway, think about Goku from Dragon Ball or Luffy from One Piece).
Emboar part fighting comes from it's theme, as i said before.
Luchalitten possible part fighting and design it's a very different concept since it comes from the idea of Tiger Mask.
The dark second typing it's also possible since the concept art has it spitting something green from the mouth. Connected to Japanese wrestling, this move is often called "green mist" and it's used by heel wrestlers. The dark type is basically called "evil type" in the Japan therefore a heel wrestler can end up under the dark typing more than the fighting one (that in the original games represented the heroes rather then pure fighters).

>>28939320
>Projecting

They actually got praised in the original thread when people thought they were fake.

>>28939517
Look a Pignite, it's an old time wrestler, with a Andre the Giant-esque leotard. Also his mid-section is shaped like a wrestling belt

You're also grasping at straws. No one will give a shit where he picks up the Fighting-type. What matters in the end is that he is another fire/fighting. The originin changes nothing on the final product.

Also, I don't know where people picked up the whole "fighting-type is the hero-type", but stop. Just stop. Fighting-type is not the Hero-type. Primeape is not a hero. Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee are not heros. Fighting-type is about martial arts and fighting styles

In conclusion, at this point every single fake evolution on the left side of that pic would actually be more original than LuchaLitten itself. At least they aren't ripping ideas from every single fire starter since Gen 3

>>28939394
Torracat seems to have the tiger theme. In other languages the "cat punch" thing it's not even mentioned, it's only said that the pokemon has very strong paws and arms (that's exactly what a tiger has, not only wrestler to be honest).
The pokemon description also talks about its ability to be able to see even in the deepest darkness. (Maybe that's the hint to the dark typing, rather than connecting a huge power to fighting type).

>>28939570
Pignite seems to wear a battle suit typical of the stereotypical fat "monk" like big character in the Japanese videogames.

In Japan the martial artist that follow the right path with honor are considered heroes. Why then put the fighting type super effective against the dark type (the evil type)? The same reason fairy type (that has magic and good theme) is super effective to. It's the eternal fight against good and evil.

>>28939528
Really? All I remember from that thread was:
>Too edgy to be real, but the wing-bow looks cool as fuck
>this is awesome, but doesn't really... look like a pokemon
>Obviously fake. I hate the Litten one
>I love all three, so they are fake but Fire/fighting THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS! IS IT AN INTERN JOKE TO THEM NOW?
If anything, it's a 50-50 split, much like most leaks.

>>28939620
Tell me how Primeape, one of the OG fighting-type is considered a hero, when it's a berserker pigmonkey. Fighting-type beats Dark-type because technique beats dirty tactics. The whole "Fighting-type are heroes" is nothing but retarded headcanon people came up with, especially because among the fighting types there's things like Passimian and Heracross, that don't pratice martial arts.

>>28939656
Primeape is fighting type because it's a monkey, an animal connected with the fighting spirit. It also has a pig theme as well, another animal connected with fighting in japan.
Passimian is fighting type for the same reason and because they extended the fighting type to the "athletic" field, it seems.
About Heracross, it's another type of animal connected with fighting: the fighting beetles. Little boys in Japan capture them and make them fights into small boxes. There was another anime that has the same concept, "Medarots" (with the co-protagonist Metabee that is a beetle robot with a great fighting spirit).

>>28940099
And notice how none of that shit has to do with any of that "hero" headcanon bullshit people spout around here

Glad we cleared that up

>>28939652
I have complete screencaps of the threads right in front of me and the overwhelming trend is "these look really nice but they are probably fake", with the odd post complaining about fire/fighting and gender ratios.

They were far from unanimously hated.

>>28940111
A fighting spirit could be heroic if full of honor.

>>28938619
> and his siren bitch evo looks like something from a Dr. Suess porno
kek

>>28940146
Ah, okay then. Thanks for taking your time.

Still, with the amount of praise they got now, one would think everyone is in the "they're real from day one" bandwagon.

Eh, I'm not them, so I'll leave it at that.

>>28938619
>triggred by feminine things

>>28940294
I'm going to try and pull out individual posts for the btfo collage, but essentially it's the same thing as wottergate, where people find "patterns" that don't match ("Ash is in the concept art!"/"The confidential stamp was stolen from the Noivern concept art!"/"But what about the circus theme?"/"It doesn't fit the pokedex, fake!").

I think people were right to remain suspicious, blindly eating it up before we at least saw that Popplio learns Disarming Voice would have been very naive.

>>28936168
no
robinhoot was always pretty well liked
people that weren't dumb balliofags were okay with popmaid

only luchalitten had major issues

>>28936168
i believed the moment i saw them

>>28940510
>>28940497

Dartrix evolving into Robinhoot it's pretty strange, btw. I do think those are real leaks but from few different design proposed, early concept arts. Only Brionne seems really completely connected to Popmaid.
Luchalitten could be the evolution of Torracat, despite the fact it seems to have little things in contrast.
Robinhoot seems a further evolution, like a Mega to me. Seems really distant from Dartrix (but it's possible that the dumb and clumsy behavior of Dartrix receive a solution in Robinhoot with the use of "glasses").

I believed them the moment i saw them as well, but now i think they are early concept design and the real ones follow the same theme, are really similar but with few differences (for example i think the real Luchalitten will have that brow-like elonged facial feature expanded rather then revert to litten face...we had various cases like Blastoise or Greninja however so i might be wrong).

>>28938043
I hate when people think they're special for liking things others dislike

>>28941009
I order to mention that, i always liked all the starters, except the 3rd gen ones (that generation made me quit with the pokemon games and i returned with the 5th generation, skipping the 4th).
They are the more loved but the only one really good looking is the Treecko evolution line.

´>Projecting : the thread

>>28936343
AND IF (you) THINK WE CAN'T

>>28936168
RobinHoot is amazing, so close to my number one favorite starter. Aaarrgghhhh

What if the mentioned leaked starters are actually the Mega or the Z-forms (if they actually exist for real?)

>>28941009
No different or better than morally bankrupt optimists who like eveything on a whim

The only winning move is to not play

>>28936168
Where did these leaks come from again?

>>28941589
Some guy in China who was working on the game I think

>>28941525
WE'LL SPAM UNTIL ITS DEAD

>>28941589
Someone just dumped them here

>>28941009
literally what are you talking about

>>28936168
must be true. siren looks like an idol pokemon

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No, I remember when they were first posted on /vp/ and I said they looked literally perfect and it was a shame that they were fake and I wished that I could go into a coma until November so I wouldn't have to torture myself over that they would never be real until I had the game in my hands and hopefully whatever the actual evolutions are would be even half as good

I stand by that they are fake until it actually happens, I suggest everyone who likes them to do the same and everyone who hates them to expect them to be real as to soften whatever the worst possibility is should it happen

>>28939219
>Split evo

I'm still holding out hope here too. The only other possible "secret" I can think of is signature Z-moves, which seems pretty lame to advertise as the secret.

>>28941680
BECAUSE THE USERS OF THIS BOARD

>>28939057
>the same crappy quality

>>28943663
BELIEVE IN

>>28943774
ROBINROOT
LUCHALITTEN
AND POPPMAID

>>28936168
you shouldn't use the royal "we" if you aren't royalty

>>28936168
I remember thinking "fuck, these fakes have really stepped their game up" and the only decent argument anyone had was that the drawings were unusually cluttered together compared to other pokemon reference sheets.

>>28941552
then the name wouldn't be Tiger3 on the CONCEPT sheets

it would be Owl3-M or Owl3-Z or Owl3-S

>>28939372
We already have a pangoro.
That said, there's literally nothing saying he specifically HAS to be a heel wrestler, other than anons hoping for him to be dark type.

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>>28936648
>its just gonna be fire fighting
>no, it's fire dark
>well fire dark sucks anyway
you people are the dumbest sacks of shit ive ever seen

Anyone got the leaks collage thingy with all the leaks and showing how some were proven wrong and/or right

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>>28944567
I got this, not sure if it got updated

>>28936168
I always could imagina el tigre and robin groot as models but nit poppmaid! hopefully the official art looks better

I liked them the second I saw them and still like them.

>>28941953
They've been proven real, you're not intelligent for continuing to doubt when it's no longer reasonable to do so.

>>28936217
I still want volcano doggo :(

>>28943787
AND ASH-oh wait

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>>28943844
If you want some hair pulls, check this.

>>28938420
That's cool. I actually didn't know that.