Datamining season begins soon!

>>28929345
You just mean in two weeks right?

I mean you can't download it from the CDN yet right?

Right?

>>28929345
great times are coming

>>28929359
Get hype!

>>28929345
So let's say GameFreak is that retarded to put everything in the demo again, is there a way to rip the models of the not yet known Pokémon? O do you have to replace it with another Pokémon?

The entire game can't be uploaded already

>>28929359
No you can't download it yet dummy. The info is in the database, not the whole demo.

>>28929359
>>28929400

I have an encrypted copy of the demo downloaded from the CDN sitting on my hard drive.

Can download it, can't decrypt it or play it yet.

>>28929387
They scrubbed out most of the models in ORAS, but if that demo was precedence, there might be Pokedex portraits that detail the designs.

>>28929387
In ORAS we didn't get the models but we got the stats and names IIRC.

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M-MASAKA

>>28929387
Well, considering the size of the demo is already confirmed to be bigger than oras, and it had models and all, it is safe to assume the models can be ripped with ease.

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>>28929345
Does this mean we're getting an "early access" ? If so, then pick related.

>>28929387
Yes and yes. You can actually just inject pokemon already in the data. You can probably expect datamoning to start early even before release. Some people get acess to it early.

>>28929401
You'll have some sort of spoiler warning, right?

>>28929401
What's the size of the demo file ?

>>28929401
>>28929345
based SciresM, get us up for release with PKHeX or tell that other fucker of katahapkhokitics or however is called to do so, we have that London Regional or whatever kinda soon

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>>28929428
In hype season, there's no spoiler warning.

>>28929435
Serebii confirmed it to be around 400mb.

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>>28929449
P-PLEASE NO

>>28929428
He can't play it, and won't be able to until it's out.

That said, he's ready to mine that shit.

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>>28929435
The demo is 390 MB.

>>28929465
How big was ORAS's?

I already have my software set up for it. Just waiting till it comes out. I'll try my best to post whatever i find as early as possible even if it means calling in scik at work

Blessings

>>28929465
Michael?

>>28929465
Nice, thanks.

>>28929428
The dataminers they do the data mining once the demo releases? yes
Other people? no

>>28929465
Beautiful.

>>28929465
can you, like, open it in a bunch of text editors, maybe one of them, i dont know, works a little
like, idk, im not a l33t haxxor

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>>28929345
>yfw they manage to datamine information on the whole game
>but none of the informations are true and it ends up being a prank from GF's part

>>28929479
240 MB.

So can anyone decrypt it before the 18th? Or do we have to wait?

>>28929522
Just like with ORAS' demo, right? :^)

>>28929479
250

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>>28929501
Michael.

>>28929533
Im working on it as we speak. So far found nothing new

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>>28929531

>>28929531
It's gonna be insane.

>>28929522
Nobody would waste time and resources to do this shit.

>>28929522
>>28929537
It was a joke how little they added that wasn't already revealed

>>28929533
No, we'll have to wait.

I'm taking vacation time for datamining, though.

>>28929402
>>28929404
>>28929415
>>28929422
Alright, thanks!

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>>28929345
Datamining season begins soon!

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>>28929531

>>28929520
>text editor
>not hex editor
lol
and even then it wouldn't matter if it isn't decrypted.

>>28929555
So we can't really use it for anything right now? I guess we'll have to wait for datamining.

>>28929555
Did you try right-clicking, and going to "Open with->Paint"?

I'm actually sad.

It's more fun to get hyped every week or so and get little bits of info.

Now we'll get EVERYTHING at once.

>>28929520
It would all be encrypted code. You can't open something like this and see it easily without the source. If you could, everyone would be stealing source code from each other.
We would need a way to decrypt these files, which, when made public, probably won't take too long.

>>28929552
they do it for free

>>28929585
Don't fucking spoil yourself then. Don't come here or Reddit and you'll be fine for the most part.

Reminder that datamining = no fun allowed
Mega Lati@s, Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, and The Delta Episode never got a chance to be hyped up because of it

just finished dycypting a batch. So far nothing much of interest. Just files for npc dialoge

>>28929578
It is possible to decrypt this stuff, but the actual demo will release before we do, or it'd only be a day or two before hand, better to just wait.


>>28929555
You are the hero we need

>>28929609
Prove it

>>28929627
He's lying, it's impossible. For him at least. My dad works for Nintendo and gives me all of the secret keys I want.

>>28929555
How about you just datamine these things: amount of new mons + split evos for starters?

Knowing everything before relase isn't always good

>>28929560
Underrated toast

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I promised days ago. Time to shut down my internet

>>28929555
Based Michael.

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>>28929417
>Does this mean we're getting an "early access" ?

No, we're getting a demo. Are you too young to know what game demos are?

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>>28929683
i feel you anon

>>28929711
Some people get early acessto the demo though. I believe datamoning to commence mid next week

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>>28929654
>he thinks the starters have split evos

>>28929606
>having that level of self control
Not me anon, not me

>>28929760
Datamining will almost certainly not commence until midnight on the day of the demo's release, when the titlekey gets released and Kaphotics/I decrypt the demo and get started.

>>28929799
Some people get early acess though.

I can circumvent the need for keys when dataming the dumped demo by using a recursive algorithm

I'm on it right now. Should have some results within half an hour

>>28929766
No, I just want to be sure that there aren't so I can stop lurking on vp and enjoy the game. Also stats of litten would be nice.

>>28929607
nah man

the week or two of WHAT DOES THIS MEAN that was going on with delta episode dialogue was so much fun

>>28929827
And those people are not dataminers
Not hard to understand

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>>28929838
I'd like to believe you

but

where are the proofs?

>>28929465
How did you get that anyway? Did you try a bunch of numbers until one resulted in the demo or something?

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>>28929580
This is actually true, I did it once.

Datamining is so fun, guys

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>>28929580
Absolutely based comment anon.
>>28929799
Hi anon here i appreciate the data mining you will be doing. But please enlighten me with knowledge. How difficult is it to figure out a source code? How big are they for a game of this caliber? Also did you try >>28929580 ?

>>28929838
we'll see

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>>28929838

>>28929838
>>28929609
There is zero possibility of a 128-bit key being cracked ahead of time. There are 2^128 (~10^38) possible keys, and brute force is the best possible attack.

Don't believe anyone who claims to be able to access stuff ahead of time, for what it's worth.

>>28929961
If you go to eshop and exctract demo place mark components then you could get a small bit of data might now have mich though

>>28929961
>How difficult is it to figure out a source code?
That's irrelevant to datamining. And you don't get source code for closed source software like a commercial game. You just look at the assets to datamine. The only part of the code you can edit/analyze is the assembled code.

>>28929607
I actually think you have to be autistic to think that knowing about a feature beforehand makes that feature less fun. The fun in a video game for most people comes from actually playing a game, which is the same experience whether you know what is in the game or not.

What was datamined from the ORAS demo?

>>28929827
Who ? E-celebs and reviewers ? They don't know shit about data mining and even if they did they wouldn't risk doing it.

>>28930048
everything

>>28930004
ok let's start
00000000001
00000000010
00000000011
00000000100
am I there yet?

>>28930048
the fact that there was no battle frontier, hoopa unbound, music, move tutors and other stuff i probably forgot

>>28929961
>How difficult is it to figure out a source code?
First you need to convert the code.bin + exheader to an elf IDA can load. Then, you get to spend lots of time going through assembly.

>>28930048
pretty much everything except for knowing how mega fug evolved

>>28930063
>>28930082
Oh God.

That means it all ends in a few weeks. We'll know EVERYTHING.

>>28930048
literally all the new megas, forms, pokemon you could catch, delta episode. literally made me not want to buy the game. at least when xy came out, there was still stuff we didn't know about

>>28930048
We learned there was no Frontier
We learned there were no new Megas besides the ones already revealed
We learned the stats of the already revealed Megas
We learned Hoopa-Unbound is a thing
We learned there would be a "Lorekeeper Zinnia" in the game (Zinnia wasn't officially revealed yet).

>>28930048
Absolutely everything except the actual models and music files
It even had a fucking list of tracks, just not the actual tracks themselves.

>>28930097
We'll know even more, we'll find out events and special things.

>>28930072
https://youtu.be/aXYuL4yo0tM?t=4m5s

>>28930048
your gay nudes

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>>28930128
>(Zinnia wasn't officially revealed yet)
I forget whether pic related was before or after the leaks

HERE'S THE TITLEKEY
6433b79867b1327fb12d11d394b2f7ec

HERE'S THE TITLEKEY
6433b79867b1327fb12d11d394b2f7ec

HERE'S THE TITLEKEY
6433b79867b1327fb12d11d394b2f7ec

HERE'S THE TITLEKEY
6433b79867b1327fb12d11d394b2f7ec

HERE'S THE TITLEKEY
6433b79867b1327fb12d11d394b2f7ec

HERE'S THE TITLEKEY
6433b79867b1327fb12d11d394b2f7ec

>>28930048
All of it.

>>28930203
It was after.

>>28930215
Bunping hoping its legit

>>28930215
This means nothing

>>28930215
Fake and gay.

HOLY SHIT
if you dycrypt the title key and extra partitions in the eshop you can see it utilizes street pass. Maybe streetpass pokemon???

>>28930215
http://prntscr.com/cpwdlc

>>28930263
no shit it uses streetpass, every fucking game does

>>28930251
It is.

>>28930254
>>28930257
Do you guys even know what you're talking about? You don't look like you even know what a titlekey is faggots. I can't access my PC right now so I won't be able to do it myself, but it's easy to do, that's why I posted it.

>>28930251
It's not. You can literally enter any key into a CDN downloader and it'll download the files, but they won't work (and they might even cause problems to your 3DS if you install them as .cia).

>>28930303
>and they might even cause problems to your 3DS if you install them as .cia
That sounds unlikely. They probably just wouldn't work. What's your source on this?

>>28930263
Next portion is coming in. There seems to be data suggesting xy oras memory sharing. Seems like it uses some of your pst player data for some in game events

>>28929345
Wait, does this mean someone already has the demo?

>>28930345
Yes. Nintendo, and everyone who can download from their servers. We can't decrypt them until they officially release it though.

So it's a matter if the 2DSes with sun and moon preinstalled are found first, or this. The race is on.

>>28930345
Yes, but its useless for datamining in its current form.
Ignore the people claiming they can unless they provide a myriad of evidence.

>>28930329
I don't remember where, but I read that if you install a bad title key, you might get a soft brick, although a9lh prevents this. As for downloading stuff with any key, this was experienced by the people from the Etrian Odyssey general in /vg/, as they tried to download the EO5 demo with a random key and it did download, but the demo wouldn't work at all.

TORRACAT HAS JUST BEEN CONFIRMED TO HAVE TOUGH CLAWS AS ITS HA

>>28930416
Also, try to download the file with CDN-FX or CIAngel with that key, it'll "work" until it's at 99%, then it'll give you an error.

>>28930416
Nice. I'd like to read more about it, maybe I'll look if I can find something.

>>28930416
>>28930450
Thanks, good to know. At least they shouldn't cause problems with it.

Why are all of you wasting your time? I already have the titlekey.

I will release it in 5 hours.

Patience guys it's only 2 week away.

>>28930537
Will it also enable DS rom loading from SD card by any chance?

>>28930551
it could be an hour away and these people would still eat up a potential early release, no matter how unlikely.

OP PLS GIB DEMO ;_;

>>28930441
where

>>28930048
it would be easier to say what wasn't.

Gym leader rematches and Battle Frontier

>>28930660
>op pls give us something we already have

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>>28930537

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Here's the size for the demo you nerds.

>>28930796
What did he mean by this?

Can't the demo be injected through the same way we inject FBI into the H&S App? I don't know, just throwing random things here.

Hopefully the final starter models can be data mined from this.

>>28930828
He's trying to install the CIA. We'll see if he manages to make it work.

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>>28930828
By using CIAngle you can download a title using a Title ID and said encrypted titlekey. The game is already up on their servers but nobody has the encTitlekey so by giving it a random titlekey (using the titlekey for Kid Icarus Uprising as an example) for another game it attempts to download it. Of course it will fail because it's not the correct titlekey but you can view the size of any title on the eShop servers.

>>28930864
No.

>>28929654
>>28929842
Well here's your definite proof https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/28553772/#28554141

>>28930886
>>28930796
Or instead of using shitty tools like CIAngel you can just download the contents from nus.

See >>28929465

>>28930886
see >>28929465 retard

bruh no one will solve the encryption, better to just way two weeks

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>>28930914
>doing things the easy way
I have no computer access at the moment

>Malshadow is a Dragon/Bug type Dolphin

>>28930935
I'm sure that, no matter how many possibilities there might be, if we let everyone know about it, the Pokémon community is going to find the right one. Admit it, Pokémon fans are autistic enough to succeed.

>>28930959
inb4 we figure it out 20 minutes before the official release

>>28930959
Oh they'll find the right one
about an hour before release, making 2 weeks of work effectively pointless

>>28930959
You're an idiot.
Go take a statistics class some time, and you'll see the possibility of some 1000 autists guessing a random 128-bit code is zero.
This is not an infinite monkeys on infinite typewriters scenario.

>>28931004
I dunno, man

It's pretty fucking close

I'm not sure anyone in the Pokemon community is quite as smart as a monkey, though

>>28931004
>underestimating Pokémon fans' autism
>thinking monkeys can be more autistic than us
>not getting a joke

Alright guys, expect leaks soon. I'm currently in the process of using a hex editor to decrept the demo titlekey. I've uploaded the ripped it and it should be up on CDN in a hour.

i have no idea what any of you are talking about

>>28930959
Nigger.
There are 16^32 possible keys.
16^32 = 3.4028237e+38

If you generated 100 keys per second for 100,000 years, you would generate only 1.0790283e+24 results.

>>28931004
How long would a brute force of a 128bit code take under optimal conditions?

>>28931043
Did you try
>>28929580
?

>>28931026
The number really is far too big.

Assuming there are 10 billion people on the planet, and every single one has a computer trying 10 billion keys per second (and that's orders and orders of magnitudes higher than what's actually feasible), it would take 5-10 trillion years to find the key.

>>28931096
So what you're is saying is that there's a chance?

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>>28931062
That's alright, I have time

>>28931096
Ya but Mr Robot could do it and that uses real hackers so

So, roughly how long will it be before PKHex is updated after the demo is released? Would we be lucky enough to have something working for the release of S&M?

>>28931070
You could literally dedicate every computer on Earth to do it and the universe would experience heat death before you were done.
I'm not exaggerating in the slightest.
It would take the strongest super computer on earth 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 to solve it.

>>28931143
That's the big upside of the demo.

In the worst case scenario for datamining, they leave nothing from the full game in.

But even then, we get all of their file structures and data formats ahead of time, which would mean effectively immediate complete datamining on November 18th, and extremely fast PKHeX support for Sun/Moon.

>>28931062
>but you need to discard unlikely cases like 11122233334444. The key you know will seem 4b34tif101ajgi53btyuj98fe. So discard cases where there are three same letters/numbers consecutive. And the results will be a lot lot lot less.

>>28931165
This makes me happy.

>>28931165
This would also potentially lead to updates for PK3DS, right?

>>28931221
pk3DS will be updated, too, soon enough, but it is a much lower priority than PKHeX.

>>28931221
Why wouldn't it?

>>28931246
>>28931221
And to actually answer the question you asked: yes, demo will make pk3DS update way faster than it would have otherwise, because the tools we use for datamining/dumping are the same tools we use for editing in pk3DS, and we'll have to update them for dumps anyway.

>>28931268
Hype as shit. I'm looking forward to beginning work ROMhacking Sun and Moon as soon as possible.

>>28931198
Very astute assessment! If you generated all possible service keys while only allowing each value to repeat three times, you would be generating about 883,413,014,065,530,374,354,632,704,000,000 entries.

At a rate of 100 per second, that’s 280,128,429,117,684,669,696,421 years.

>>28931151
see >>28931198

>>28931198
I don't think you understand how math works.

>280,128,429,117,684,669,696,421 YEARS
WE CAN DO IT GUYS JUST DON'T GIVE UP

>>28931312
See
>>28931301
And also >>28931317 because you're clearly an idiot

>>28931301
In theory, it could take 5 seconds too.

>>28931301
Now exclude all of the already known titlekeys. I'm sure the 3DS library is big enough!

>>28931301
Why just only 100 per second?

>>28931301
This is assuming the key is the last one that is checked. You don't need to test em all.

>>28931268
Will you be tweeting any developments regarding the demo?

>>28929606
>or Reddit
you fucking wat

>>28931381
Yes but the point is the chance of us discovering the correct key within 2 weeks is so incredibly low that the laws of probability consider it impossible.

>>28931381
>>28931379
>>28931367
>>28931358
Holy shit you really don't know how math works at all. I took AP Statistics in my senior year of high school. All four of you are guaranteed to be underage. Fuck right off this board immediately.

>>28931432
You're not thinking anime enough, my man!

>>28931448
Maybe you shouldn't visit 4chan if you can't handle our post-irony, bro!

>>28931462
If we were going to use our anime powers it'd have been better spent guessing the keys to SM themselves.

>>28931392
If you're reading this board, I'm sure you'll know once demo datamining really starts.

>>28929490
good job, anon

>>28931381
Let's say it's in the first 0.0000000000001% of the keys.
Still takes 883,413,014,065,530,374 years.

>>28929345
Fuck you SciresM

>>28931526
but what happens when it's the first key?

>>28931527
Don't be rude to him. He can't help being a cutiepie.

You're welcome for the Demo, by the way.
No need to thank me too much, /vp/. The world already sucks up to me enough as it is.

>>28931462
>>28931476
Looking at your post you are most definitely underage and possibly frequent other social media websites. Out you go.

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Nice I caught another one!

>>28931575
You both sound like faggots.

>>28931564
Keep proving yourself to be more and more underage, at some point we may regard you as a fetus and call you adorable instead of retarded.

>>28931594
Make sure to use the Masterball!

Just post it in /hbg/, they'll probably figure something out.

>>28931642
lol

>>28931575
I've been on 4chan for years and just turned 18 early this year. This is the first time someone calls me underage. It was the only one anons had yet to call me. Also, were you implying samefagging? I only got one (you) there.

>>28931642
You mean vitagen pirate edition?

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>>28931572
>You're welcome for the Demo
>nowhere to be found even though 5 hours have passed

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I'll post the key, give me a second.

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>>28931676
no way. there's no fucking way you have the code

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>>28931572
I-Is it really you?

>>28931575
Are you unfamiliar with humour?

Hide and filter all tripfags except Scires, he is the only one that isn't a blithering retard
Don't give any tripfag that is not Scires any replies, they will just keep coming back
>>28931695
That means you too stupid

>>28931616
That wasn't me >>28931381
Go fuck yourself nerd

>>28931673
Did they actually figure out how to pirate vita games? Last I knew, the ones behind the homebrew scene there were quite against pirating vita stuff.

>>28931448
>AP stat in HS
>Worth anything
You're the tard here, sherlock.

>>28931575
>other
Did you just call 4chan "social media"? Actually, calling anything "social media" is fucking retarded but let's not get there.

>>28931572
I guess I'll stop visiting /vp/ when the datamining begins until the release of the game :c

>>28931738
I mean, AP stats in HS is literally a college statistics course
that's not exactly a strong math background but it usually prevents idiots from spewing out "but but but there's technically a chance of brute-forcing the encryption in two weeks!"

>>28931572
>Lopunny
Are you the Lopunny from the gts giveaway threads? :3
You were a great help in my XY games

>>28931695
It sure is, sweetheart.

I'll be around for a few months now and then disappear again when the temperature gets too cold for me.

I don't like to wade in /vp/ any longer than neccessary unless I come to gloat.

Any of you guys remember back when Pokemon Black and White was announced and there was a livestream of the "alpha"?

Remember how it was just Corey in the House.

>>28929585
No it wasn't fun, we get way too much info on new Pokemon games as is, may as well just spoil it all in one go.

>>28931572
OH SHIT!!

>>28931796
Not just on here but internet wide and all across XY for releasing vids to some not so-famous (at the time) youtubers. You can find me everywhere, and I'll be giving out quite a bit for Sun&Moon unless PkHex is up and running the day of release. Which we're all hopeful for.

If not then I'll run a few threads to give away special pokemon for Gen 7. (6.5 but whose counting hairs?)

Until it's time to release info, ta-ta!

I can't remember but, did we get info on postgame status before or after the demo?

I know we got something, but we all still sat around waiting for early copies to beat the E4 and see what was on the other side.

>>28931787
But there is technically a chance. You are just saying there are however many possibilities that makes it near impossible.

>>28931829
If we could somehow get the top screen model we could make a (big enough .cia) to do that with SM.

>>28931839
>>28931796
>>28931695
samefag

>>28931842
Referring to ORAS I mean.

>>28929606
>implying it's ever ok to go on reddit

>>28931857
Wrong, fag.
>>28931796
Was me..

>>28931843
There's technically a chance that the molecules in your body randomly reconfigure to turn you to solid gold right now. Chances that infinitesimal are irrelevant to any model of statistics.

>>28931845
I mean I'll probably just fake it again. That was me, all those years ago. I'll grab some Corey in the House Rom, rename it something else and change its extension. Throw it in a folder with some fake ass Python scripts and pretend to launch Citra when really I'm just throwing pies in the White House.

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>>28931857
Sorry buddy.

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>>28931857
>samefag
Fuck off

>>28929607
>Delta Episode
>Spoiled from datamining
It was spoiled because they were retarded and gave everything away officially.

>>28931845
Just use sf2d and display a corey in the house pic with the music playing. Pack the RomFS with a 1.9GB file and I'm sure a few people will fall for it.

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>>28931572
>You're welcome for the demo
W-What did you do?

>>28931925
I meant the top screen model before launching the game.

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>>28931905

>>28931886
Yeah but we're talking about Pokemon and Game Freak, not your stupid fetish.

>>28931917
The whole "going to space and fighting deoxys" thing was spoiled officially, but the demo contained every line of text in the game. The "parallel universe" twist was spoiled by the demo, not by Game Freak.

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>>28931886
>you'll never wake up into being solid gold

>>28931995
If you were solid gold, you wouldn't wake up. Think about that.

>>28931958
What part of 2^128 possible combinations did you not get?

>>28932058
Actually, it'd be (2^129)-1

>>28932058
What part of I have nothing invested in leaks or trying to get information about Pokemon a month early do you not get? Sure is rustling your jimmies to know that it is technically possible to get the correct combination through brute force though.

>>28932117
Ah, yes, that'll make things so much easier!

>>28932166
>>28932117
>-1
see? we are already taking a step into solving this

>>28932166
Dubs confirmed, demo by the end of the night.

>>28932206
The power of anime will make us get the titlekeys before the official release. DON'T GIVE UP

Reminder that there are also Japanese/Chinese people working on this and they are born with an autism level ten times higher than other races

>>28931462
is there an anime about hacking or working with computers ala "The IT Crowd"?

>>28929387
All the ORAS demo really leaked was the art for the gym leaders/elite four and confirmed that there weren't any new megas that weren't already announced. So names and pictures, but not models.

It did, however, give up trainer teams for the different routes. So we could get new Pokemon that way.

>>28932249
Just like how the oras demo leaks or editing software were Made In Japan?

>>28932265
not focusing on hacking but there are instances of fat virgin 2chan dweller "super hackers" hacking and thus repairing time machines that came from the future

>>28932288
I'm pretty sure it also leaked the whole DexNav catchable Pokémon so that way we may also learn of new Pokémon.

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>for the next 2 weeks we're going to have multiple people claiming they got the demo running early even though it's encrypted
can't wait

>>28931448
>Taking an AP class that is not related to the career I want
How about nah

Also

>Implying AP classes make you smarter

>>28929345
SURELY they wouldn't be stupid enough to put all the games data in the demo a second time
right?

They also leak Hoopa-Unbound, move tutors and base stats from all Mons

How are they able to download the file already? Is Nintendo that much retarded to put files on their servers 2 weeks before releasing the demo?

Anyone can explain this? Why Nintendo is not blocking it? What program do they use to download those files?

>>28932288
It had the dexlist as well, its how we figured out about hoopa unbound.
it also had learnsets for every pokemon

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>>28932315

>>28932333
>Diamond/Pearl demo
...Right?

all i wanna know about is the postgame content. i'm sure the main adventure will be fine.

>>28932338
>What program do they use to download those files?
There are a lot of programs to do it.

Yes, they are on Nintendo's servers, but they're completely pointless if you don't decrypt them, which we can't do at the moment.

>>28932333
>>28929465
Not twice as heavy but...

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>>28931381
Let's assume first that there are four billion computers in the world.
>https://www.reference.com/technology/many-computers-world-e2e980daa5e128d0
estimates that there were two billion in 2014, four billion is an incredibly liberal estimate.
Now let's have every single computer in the world work nonstop to brute force Pokemon keys at a rate of 1000 per second with perfect efficiency and no overlap.
That means four trillion keys are checked every second.
This comes out to 220,853,253,516,383,000,000 seconds (or 7,003,210,727,942 years) to ensure the desired outcome.
Since your argument is that it's technically possible that the winning outcome is within the first two weeks of those seven quadrillion years, the chance of that happening are 0.0000003424657534246580000%.
The chance of a given ticket winning a lottery with 292,000,000 people entered is SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND times greater than EVERY COMPUTER IN THE WORLD WORKING IN PERFECT HARMONY'S chance to crack the title key.
There's a point where "technically possible" stops mattering, and we passed it long ago.

>>28932333
I doubted they would
Until I saw that the SM demo not only meets the size of the ORAS demo, but nearly doubles it.

>>28932310
name of the anime?

>datamining won't reveal if starter have two evos because they will probably be like rock doggo and share a name

why even bother?

>>28929555
Goodbye internet

>>28932410
Dude who cares why are you obsessing over impossible stuff?

>>28932442
stats is fun and arguing with 4channers made me curious just HOW unlikely it is for the key to be brute-forced even if every single device on earth started trying for it.

>>28932424
Steins;gate

>>28932039
>get touched by midas
>WAKE ME UP

>>28932452
How mad/amazed would you be if it happens within an hour from now?

>>28932429
sharing a name doesn't matter if they are set up like formes. cosplay pikachu has 5 formes and they all share the same name but in the data they each have their own data value.

>>28932288
Hoopa Unbound.

Move Tutors.

Trainer Pokémon.

>>28929606
>or Reddit

>>28932410
>>28932442
BTW if you had four hundred trillion computers brute forcing keys at one billion keys per second, there'd be a five percent chance of cracking the key before the demo drops officially.
>>28932489
It won't. The demo might be decrypted earlier than the launch date, but it won't be through brute force decryption.

>>28931301
Can we just wait until they release de fucking demo?

>>28932529
I know, It's pretty much the same question as "how woukd you react if a random bloodclot made your arm fall off while you sleep".

I just want an answer.

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>>28932553

>>28931940
damn someone saved my dumbass picture, I'm honored

I know it's not logical, but I doubt that there are that many empty data slots. Starting from 2^128 would still take forever.

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>>28932596
I know that feel, anon. People are using my AW SHIT NIGGA and teethfix edits of chicken-chan I made.

>>28932625
2^128 isn't even close to the number of 3DS games available though

>>28932562
Well, in that first case I'd die. Also, the occurrences of fatal blood clots per capita per year are approximately 1-3 in 1000. Not low at all on the scale we're talking about with lottery and encryption etc. (that's not even counting that non-fatal blood clots happen too)

Something as tremendously improbable as the key being bruteforced (note that realistically we'd only be able to count on a couple hundred computers operating at 100 or so keys per second, meaning there'd be a 6.8*10^-20 percent chance of it happening in two weeks, 50,022,933,771,015 times less likely than a given ticket winning the powerball) is so outside the realm of possibility that the only sensible reaction would be to assume the key was cracked through another method (hacking Nintendo's server for example).

>>28932636
There are currently 6268 commercial titles, plus system titles.

So let's round up to 6500.

That's zero, compared to 2^128.

>>28931575
He even said it was post-ironic and he still fell for it. What a faggot

>>28932625
Is there a way to subtract all known 3ds keys?

>>28932706
There's currently 6268 commercial titles, plus system titles.
So let's round up to a trillion.
That's zero, compared to 2^128.

>>28929555
>takes a bunch of vacation time to datamine
turns out there's nothing in the demo to mine

>>28932636
I know, but I doubt they just make the number +1 for every game, too. It's fundamentally more numbers than they will ever need. I wouldn't be surprised if it is a randomly generated 128 bit number. Besides, I forgot how data is stored, in sets of 2 hex digits (1 byte) It would actually begin at 2^121.

>>28932698
fair enough, thats all the question aimed at.

Also, how does the calculation changes if you add 30 minutes for everyone of the 6500 titles?

>>28932410
Lmfao all you have to do is change the assembly code so that encryptionkey = whatever-the-fuck-you-want. You don't need the actual key, just the value where that key is held and just substitute it for whatever you want.

>>28929931
>know what's in the games is fun

>>28932750
At the absolute minimum, we`ll learn the BST of some new pokemon

>MUH ENCRYPTION TIME

Okay idiots, this is how you get around encryption:
>1. Find value where encryption key is stored
>2. Turn value on as if the key was entered
>3. You're done, that's all you have to do.

That's how McAfee hacked the iPhone, guys.

Guys, I just hacked it in ten minutes. All of the starters evolve into Charizard. Pikachu is the final boss.

>>28932795
So hack nintendo, is what you're saying?
it would probably be a really easy thing for an insider to leak, though

>>28932772
What do you mean "30 minutes"? My calculations were assuming that A: the keys never have three consecutive characters (which is not necessarily true) and B: each computer (every computer on the planet that is) can test ONE THOUSAND KEYS PER SECOND. In which case, shave 0.00000000016 seconds off of those seven quadrillion years.
>>28932775
And yes, that's a viable way to bypass the encryption. What we're discussing is bruteforce.
>>28932795
Yep this is the way to do it.

>>28932810
Teh lolz

>>28932750

Totally prepared for that.
See >>28931165

If they truly remove everything from the demo, which they might (though I don't think they'll be that good at this), then I devote all the time taken off to making really good tools for sun/moon's release for faster datamining/PKHeX support then.

>>28932795
You guys better do this right now!

Oh hey 400mb, yeah I'm sure they're hiding something they can't keep a secret.
Let's face it, we're getting a tiny bit more than XY maybe a bit more than 100 new pokemon.

So the people who get it early will download it from the eshop, right? Doesn't that mean that they will have access to the titlekey?

Considering how widespread 3ds hacking is nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if one of them leaked it.

>>28932941
400mb is because of the new graphics and models of the overworld.

>>28932775
>>28932795
>>28932855
For the record, this sort of thing only works using a 3DS as a "black box" and will only work if the key CAN be bypassed through a modified .cia installation system. You can't "skip the part that says encrypt it" on an encrypted file on a PC.

>>28932958
The second someone gets a legitimate download of the demo from the eShop and exports their enctitlekeys.bin file is the second we can decrypt and datamine to our hearts' content.

>>28932117
No, it wouldn't.

>>28932971
Really?
I'm sure that's almost half of the 400mb.

>>28932989
Not necessarily, actually.

There's a good chance the demo uses seed crypto -- that is, in addition to the titlekey used to encrypt the game binaries, the game's code/romfs are doubly protected with an additional 128-bit value called the external seed. If you've pre-purchased a game, you'll have the titlekey but not the seed -- Sun/Moon will be prepurchasable, so there'll likely be a period of time where people will have sun/moon downloaded and decrypted on their home menus but not be able to datamine/play them because the seed won't be released.

For the demo, since the first time we'll have the titlekey will be the same time a seed would be released (at midnight the day of), it won't really matter, but since it'll be relevant for sun/moon themselves it's worth mentioning.

(Cartridge copies of the game won't have seed protection, though, of course, so as soon as someone gets a cart early and dumps it it's game over).

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what are the chances the full game leaks before the demo is released

>>28929401
Are you a wizard??

>>28932837
No, run the game, see what values are triggered when you enter a wrong encryption key, and then just flip that value to true or whatever.

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>>28929465
>>28929548
>SM demo is bigger than ORAS demo
>when they datamined the ORAS demo they found all the game's info and the Delta Episode
WE'RE GETTING THE FULL DEX IN TWO WEEKS BOYS, GET FUCKING READY

EVERYONE'S GONNA GET BTFO

>>28933059
>I don't know what encryption is!

Calm down guys, here's the cia of the demo:

https://mega.nz/#!ww8XXYQZ!aUUhpMwD30_M5yRC5qR4hXGH-_Vsj82MaQoRbm6RVh4

Source: http://www.3dsiso.com/cia-downloads/272362-mega-pokemon-sun-moon-demo-usa-rf.html

Enjoy

>>28933039
ooh, that's definitely good to know. So people will be able to pirate via FreeShop or CIAngel before we're able to properly dump the content? Although obviously the cartridge will be dumped soon enough.

>>28933105
Yes. Almost certainly, sun/moon will be downloadable via freeshop (but not playable) prior to release.

>>28933082
Virus and/or Cory in the House

>>28933082
Thanks for the virus in the form of dolphin porn forcibly downloading onto my home server.

>>28933079
Encryption is just a hash protected file. That's it. If the program stores that encryption key locally, then it's as simple as running a virtual instance of that file and flipping values.

I miss Cory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gw77lpHDX8

>>28933154
That's signing.

>>28933128
Explain this? I thought games only made it onto 3dstitlekeydb once they had the key available. Freeshop pulls from the 3ds title key database, so wouldn't the game just not be on the freeshop until it's playable?

>>28933082
:^)

>>28933182
see >>28933039

>>28929799
>>28929838
>>28930004
>>28930303
>>28930886
>>28930864
>>28931062
>>28931096
>>28931301
>>28931886
>>28932058
>>28932117
>>28932410
>>28932698
>>28932764
>>28932795
>>28932855
>>28932912
>>28933039
In English doc!

>>28933200
Have other pre-installation games with seed crypto shown up on Freeshop? My question isn't "why won't we be able to play from the day it's posted on eshop". It's "why would it even show up on freeshop"?

>>28933216
NO PRELOAD PATCH = NO PLAY

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>>28933142
>Not wanting free dolphin porn downloaded to your desktop for you

>>28933172
It can be either signing or encrypting. Point is that unless they plan on having online for demo play, then it's pointless. I can just make 192.168.1.1 the nintendo server and have it send back a hash file of a black cock and it'll accept it.

>>28933182
>>28933236
Freeshop uses the titlekey.

Pre-purchasable games share the titlekey, but not the encrypted seed.

There is nothing preventing sun/moon showing up on freeshop the instant they become pre-purchasable, even if they aren't playable.

>>28933142
gay

>>28932333
Trips confirm

>>28930331
what do you mean with this? i dont get it at all

>>28933297
I didn't know that happened, I've never seen an unplayable game on the freeshop. Has it ever happened before?

Giving up already, /vp/?

>>28933331
Ignore that retard he's just shitposting. No one's decrypted the demo yet.

>>28933341
I think ZTD

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>>28929406
So desu anon san.

Does anyone have like a type of introduction into decryption. I'm not asking for anyone to go into full detail but like does anyone have a basic premise of it or like a link to a tutorial?

Hey yo