Starters

>>28923619

Brionne definitely seems to be heading in the direction of the leaks, but I'm just not sure about the others. Not much about Dartrix and Torracat strongly points to the final-form leaks.

>>28923725
the collar on torracat corresponds nicely to the belt but i'm actually going to agree with you

a lot of what corresponds to the final stages is also present in the first stages.

i'd say the leaks are 95% real but there is a chance they are just the best fake leaks ever.

>>28923725
Do you guys that say this not watch the video or read the site text? The cat is probably the most realistic one.

>>28923786
Spots on owl's wings are in 2nd and 3rd but not 1st

Marking on cat's back is on 2nd and 3rd but not 1st

bubbles are on seal's 2nd and 3rd but not 1st

they real

Nah.

Dr who for the owl.

Pop star form for the seal. Think taylor swift or micheal jackson.

Fire cat becomes a mma cat.

>>28923725
Torracat has the same symbol on its back that Litten3 has, Litten doesn't have it there. It's also strong as said by it's website entry. It's legit in a wrestling stance, and it seems to be wearing a leotard.

Dartrix is harder to figure out but it has the same wing quiver, same spots on its wings, the brown seems to wrap around like a hood, it's taller, it went from feather throwing to dart throwing, now the next step is archery.

>>28923725
D E N I A L

>>28923829

I did. And there are definitely ways that they can be read consistently with the leaks, but on balance they point further in other directions than towards the leaks. I'm certainly not saying "leaks deconfirmed," but the second forms introduce more uncertainly than certainty.

>>28923725

You mean besides Torracat being buffer, gaining claws, having Luchalitten's eyebrows and a collar resembling Luchalitten's belt?

>>28923725
Dartrix

>Wing arrows/darts
>Brown hood becomes green
>Wing spots
>Bow tie becomes draw strings
>Leaf tail splits

There's enough to tie it together

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>>28923725
>>28923897

>>28923845
>>28923883
All interesting points. I hadn't noticed some of those details. I'm still not discounting that they're coincidence (it's not a stretch that the symbol on Litten's head would be reused on the final form's back), but those are some pretty convincing arguments...

>>28923897
>on balance they point further in other directions than towards the leaks
...that are pushing me to reconsider this.

>>28923932
Dartix's "hair" is the beginning formation of a hood as well. People should go back over what is written on the leaked images and they'd be surprised.

>gasping hazeldex's straws

>>28923989
What do they say anon?I never heard about it

Is this a roleplay thread indulging a what-if scenario where the leaks weren't already 100% confirmed?

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>>28924058
You can see how the brown extends onto the wing a little bit, like Rowlett3, when Dartrix extends it's wing.

>>28923619
The problem with the leaks is that they are all or nothing: if Arrowl is real, then that means that Poppliomaid and Luchalitten are real. Arrowl's design is cool enough, though, so if Arrowl is real, I'll forgive GF for making Luchalitten.

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>>28924148
>if
Are you stupid for real or just pretending?

>>28923955
but they don't point in a further direction of them not being real...

>>28923897
are u serious?

>>28924435

If you'd read through the thread before posting, you'd see that I'm reconsidering that view.

>>28923619
I think they are real, i mean come on, look at torracat, it's fuckin obvious, the tail, the stripes on its back. what i think though, is that they MAY be beta designs, and we'll see these final forms with few adjustments

>>28923725
wait was this a joke because brionne is swimming right? If yes funny, if not btfo.

Y'all, come ON. They're real.

Torracat: Symbol on back, fighting theme solidified, bell that shoots fire out of it that looks 10000% like the belt

Dartrix: brown arrows on wing, spots on back, white legs

Brionne: Basically everything, but bubbles on head, white tail, white hands, "pop star" theme

Like, some of this stuff is so damn specific (like the bell that shoots fire, the bubbles on the head), there's absolutely no way in hell that it's a coincidence. No way. And if you're saying not, then...yikes.

The leaked ones we saw were real, either As concept art or finalized. We're getting something either very similar or the exact ones.

Pretty sure it's just the coloring, if the colors were right it would look more convincing

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The evolution of the frayed hair of Litten's tail to more a club shaped tail is pretty convincing now that we have the middle evo. One of the things it doesn't have going for it is the big orange cowlick going up and away from its head that is nowhere on the final design.

Rowlet's evo now has longer legs, so it makes sense that they get even longer in the final. Also the seeds under its wings correlate to the final's little ammo magazine under it's wings.

Popplio's evo is the most convincing as the skin gets lighter as it evolves and it's ears turn into hair as well as gaining a ruffled dress that will flatten out and extend to the end of its tail for the final evo.

The only thing that bothers me is the coloring of each of the final evolutions, but this could just be the primary designs and these may not be the final colors.

>>28923725

Torracat has more developed front legs and torso.

Dartrix's hair and bow are what becomes the hood, and he is already hiding quills in his wings.

>>28923619

These are the best fakes ever. You guys fell hard for them too. This will be known as the year /vp was fooled by a random anon.
like every other year

>>28926062

I completely believe in the leaks, but I really hope this is true, unlikely as it is. The resulting shitstorm would be absolutely incredible.

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>>28925299
I agree with this, so I made an attempt to match the colors closer to the leaks/the first stages.

Looks pretty convincing, and I hate the leaks.

>>28926276
Brionne needs to be light so it eases into entermaid a lot more natural.

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>>28926302
Better?

Let's just hope that the next update on October 14th they reveal the final evos.

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>>28924058
One thing I notice.
That they each gain a tail feather leaf.

>>28926436

Unlikely. They usually don't reveal those pre-release.

>>28926436
What for? We already know what they look like (You) dumb denialfag

>>28926436
Don't get your hopes up. They usually don't release the final starter evos until right before the game comes out.

>>28926556

Not the guy you're responding to, but it would be nice to see their in-game models in motion. The models have consistently looked better in motion than the reveal art this generation, so it might alleviate some people's concern about the designs.

>>28926276
>>28926351
You guys know Dartix's brown color is right since Arrowl is darker under his hood also I think the leaf-tie fading and changing colors is a reference to changing seasons.

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>>28923725
is /vp/ a board for the blind?

>>28926614

Oh for God's sake. I changed my mind hours ago after people pointed out some of the common details in the designs. Read the damn thread.

>>28926663
you still deserve ridicule for having to have it pointed out.

>>28923932
Yeah... pretty sure these are the real leaks then.
Not excited to have a bipedal cat though...

>>28926741
It's been around the internet for a while now, shouldn't take long getting used to.

>>28926663
>anonymous
Its not like we know it was you, stupid ex denialfag

Rowlett becomes a douchebag owl who becomes an archer.

LITERALLY my mom's Green Arrow.

At this point, if they don't end up evolving into the leaks, they're gonna become something that has an uncanny resemblance to them. Same archetypes, slightly different designs.

What is the argument against the leaks when the trial captain girl appeared in there before she was actually revealed?

>>28927033
There is none.

Friendly reminder that this particular patch of starters will have split evolutions.

>>28927033
>newfag
muh generic hawaiian girl

I think leaks are real, the bowtie does disappear which seems to be important feature of the grass starters but other than that everything seems to be a logical progression. Fire and water absolutely look like a logical progression especially Liten

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>>28926886
>"Shouldn't take long getting used to."
>Liked Infernape, but not the typing
>Never accepted Pignite and Emboar
>Begrudingly accepted Delphox. Would have prefered Quadrupedal evolution
I like Litten's final evolution just as much as that sack of puppies I threw in a lake to drown.

You know what?
These are actually pretty based starters when you look at them as a whole.

>>28923932
The whiskers in the cats are slowly turning upwards in each form.

Anyone noticed that in particular?

>>28927121
same hairstyle and clothes and also the flower is in the same position, it's hardly possible that it's a coincidence

>>28923619
and of course the cat mid evolution looks like neopets shit

>>28927193
i wasn't agreeing with it, i'm just saying what it was

it was a pretty shit argument anyway

>>28923845
Torracat's head thing gets longer from 1 to 2. Why would it suddenly shrink in 3? A

WHERE ARE THE BTFO COLLAGES?

I WAS PROMISED BTFO COLLAGES

>>28924496
>its the beta designs meme again.

Reminder that Greninja and the other starters were finished being designed well before a year of the game's release, so much co that when presented to Sakurai to include it in Smash 4 it didn't even have a name yet.

>>28926530
Oh yeah you're right, nice catch.

>>28927311
It wraps around his head?

>>28927347
we need 100% verification before that anon. I'm talking about an in-game or official image.

>>28927127
You like Delphox better than Luchalitten?
Leave any day now.

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>>28923619
I am 100% positive the leaks are real, BUT am I the only one who thinks Rowlet's 2nd evo doesn't really fit with his base or final stage? I don't know man, it just seems out of place, it's probably the colors.

>>28923619
Dartrix looks absolutely nothing like Robingroot.
I can't really see the cat turning into tony the tiger.
Seal's the only one even remotely possible, and I'm stretching to see the similarities other than mermaid-esque being.

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>>28927602
>Torracat's forelegs are literally buffed
>Likewise, its hind legs are shit
>It evolves into Luchalitten, a top-heavy brawler

How is it so difficult for you to see?

>>28927598
Yeah, I don't quite like that Dartrix randomly goes lime green and dark brown, but starters often have that awkward middle stage and coloring

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>>28927675

Nah, its hind legs are pretty buffed too.

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>>28926976
>After 4 years on that hellish island
Dartrix is Oliver Queen when he was a rich douchebag and the final evolution is Green Arrow.

>>28923619
Looks like I'm picking Fire Cat and pressing B every time it levels up after I get a Torracat.

Is there any hope of the Rockruff link being split evo's for them all?

>>28927675
Because it looks nothing like it?
>head pattern randomly changes because fuck you
>gem/bell on neck
>B-BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE BELT
Are you fucking blind? It looks absolutely nothing like the belt.
>turns orange for the tiger coloration
>then NOPE dark red

I really won't be surprised at all if the leaks are real, but I just can't see the fucking progression from Litten2 to Tony the Tiger or the progression from suave bartender with bowtie to random archer with completely new shit tossed on.

>>28927749
no

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>>28927525
What's not to like?
>Not liking both

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>>28927800
>What is Charizard's evolution line
Did I nail it? I think I nailed it.

There doesn't have to be a rhyme and a reason for it. Just a few minor connections is all Game Freak rides on when it comes to evolution lines.

>>28927446
Can't wait for people to leak the game when they get an early release and people claim it's just an elaborate shop

>>28927863
Later gens are much more coherent in their themes and progression than Gen 1.

Its name is fucking DART-rix

>>28923786
Wait if the collar is a flame sac on Torracat, and if that is the equivalent of the belt on Luchalitten, won't that mean due to where it is, Luchalitten has a flame ballsack

>>28923619
It's clear those leaks are concept sketches. Hopefully the final evos will be a bit more polished. Remember the sketch of flying Blaziken?

>bell
>belt

ooooh

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>>28927898

>>28927127
Why do you furries want everything to be quadrupedal?

>>28927977
Still doesn't completely toss the theme out the window like Robingroot.

>>28927934
kek

>>28928000
>furries are anthro animals
>calling people who don't want anthro pokemon furries
Are you mentally ill?

>>28925825
It's also anime concept art, and, given what the anime threads have been saying about the SM animation, I wouldn't be surprised to see color differences and even some slight stylistic differences.

Oh well, worst 3rd evos of starters so far. Also 99% of the mons look shit. Also no interesting new content. Looks like it'll be the first pokemon game I'll be passing on.

>>28928070
>worst 3rd evo of starters so far
Yes.
>99% of mons look like shit
No. 10%.
>no interesting new content
Are you fucking autistic?

No point in micro analyzing designs for differences. GF does as GF wishes. Just look at Chesnaught and Greninja.

>>28928000
Beastiality.

>>28928003
How does the rowlet line lose its theme?
Rowlet throws his feathers.
Dartrix throws his feathers and can even do trick shots with them.
Arrowl uses his feathers as arrows.

>>28928098
>both keep coherent themes throughout their evolutions
>robingroot completely throws everything out the window
>luchalitten is incredibly questionable unless its oil wrestling or some shit

>>28926276
The colors could look different on the actual game models and artworks, though. If these are anime concept sheets like many people think, it'd make sense that the colours wouldn't be completely representative of the games.

>>28926886
"Getting used to it" doesn't remove the disappointment. I'm already familiar with it.
I wanted a bombcat.

>>28928144
>rowlet has a bowtie
>dartrix has a suit and suave hair
>ARCHER

>>28928195
>>28927738

>>28928089
>my opinion is better than yours

>>28928070
Go check if you have anhedonia

>>28925908
>Dartrix's hair and bow are what becomes the hood
What? The brown around its head is already the hood, you even see this clearer from behind in the trailer.

>>28928025
Whatever you say buddy

You have to be a literal retard to dismiss the leaked concept art from the fucking anime.

>>28927738
Thanks, now I get the joke :^)

I know these are all 100% confirmed but I don't really understand the Robinhoot one.

It's the best designed one, but I really don't see any similarities between it and the rest of its line

>>28928070
>worst 3rd evos of starters so far.

No. Gen. 5 is objectively the worst and Wottergate is proof of that.

>>28927127

Reminder that the quadruped starter is the worst starter in every gen.

>>28928571
>objectively
Nice opinion

>>28928070
It's literally the most content rich and interesting generation to come out, possibly beating BW2

>>28928025
this

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>>28929129
>something has to be bipedal for it to be furry
I just finished jacking off to pic related. Are you saying I'm not a furry because it doesn't stand on two legs?

>>28928195
Having a bow tie and slick hair isn't the theme... It's marksmanship. Rowlet3 has a bow tie anyways

>>28928546
Looks more like it's line than samurott does, so that's not really an issue.

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Rowlet's final form makes up for him being an edgy teenager in between, but that fucking typing though.

Why?

>>28927178
Heat rises after all

>>28924148
Not necessarily, if they are earlier concept art, then one may have been cleaned up/refined and another may have been scrapped entirely.

>>28925049
>The leaked ones we saw were real, either As concept art or finalized. We're getting something either very similar or the exact ones.
Again, not necessarily. We could get something that takes elements from these deisgns, but is substantively different. With Popplio 3 the similarities are pretty overwhelming, so it's quite doubtful that major changes were made, but for the other two, there's plenty of room to make changes while maintaining those similar elements.

>>28929229
What the fuck is that even supposed to be? How do you find this arousing?

>>28929705
>edgy
>literally has glee in his eyes and a welcoming pose
why the fuck would you think it's "edgy" do you even know what that means

>>28927364
Yes, and? What does that have to do with anything?

>>28926590
>Arrowl
>Not Robinroot

>>28929229
Why are you even proud of that.
That's disgusting.

>projecting hazeldex

>>28927525
You first

Greninja is fake, they got rid of the bubble design for no reason.

>>28923619
dartix throw it's feathers like knifes.
could be leading to arrows. I can only assume that the pokémon have split forms like lycanroc
depending on if you groom it or not.
torracat have a few features resembling luchalitten bulkier front paws.
perhaps you have to spoil this pokémon with hugs and treats to split.
Brionne looks a lot like poppmaid.
somehow I think happiness is a factor to what form it evolve to.

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>>28931146
That's a volcarona, a bug/fire type pokemon from gen V. Idk

>>28931283
Are you braindead

It looks to me that people talking about color changes and dropping/gaining concepts clearly haven't really looked at other starters from past gen. We're full of those.

>>28928732

Let me know when the backlash for these reach Wottergate levels.

>>28931754
Apparently I am, please enlighten me to what I'm missing that is so obvious.

Oh well, guess we can just wait for next gen for some decent starters.

>>28931852
>implying there will be a next gen
>implying there ever be decent starters
>implying this gen starters end up shit.

Anyone else getting kind of sick of anthro starters?

>>28931852

You fags say this every time.

>>28931894
>implying there will be a next gen
says increasingly nervous man for the seventh time this franchise.

>>28931957
You never know when gamefreak calls it quits.

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god fucking damn it, this is just like last gen. fire starter looks the best at first, but grass ends up being the best at the final evo.

FUCK.

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>>28923619
NOBODY fucking considers that these leaks were scanned improperly. Here are the correct colour schemes. They are far more believable as evolutions.

One thing i dont understand is that Rowlets wings are already covered in brown, so when it evolves the brown is actually receding. Why would they bother making its wings white instead of brown, only to then go back and make them brown again?

>>28932068
That rowlet 3 looks gross in that color.

>>28928546
Second stage has a bowtie and fires darts out of its wings.

Third's bowtie turns into the string of the bow that is now its wings it fires arrows out of.

>>28923619

The 2nd evo of Dartrix has detailed looking seeds on his wings. The fake 3rd evo has random triangles with no detail.

The fakes did a good job at just making litten bigger for their 3rd evo while giving it a theme which made it more believable. They also just kept up with the same stripe pattern and added the pattern on littens head to his back and front. Fro his second evo we can clearly see him going in a different direction then the fakes.

For popplios third evo they chose a very safe color scheme while also adding a few details and giving it a fairy type theme.

You people cant really believe these are real right?

>>28932068
Why'd you fuck up owl3? His brown was already mostly matching the rowlet color scheme. Litten3 was too red and you fixed that, and popmaid really doesn't seem mismatched at all, so it's fine. But rowlet3 didn't need it.

>>28932138
>

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>>28932138
Ignoring the pearl motif on Brionne and Poppmaid

Ignoring the visual similarity between Torracat's bell and Luchalitten's belt

Ignoring the 1-2-3 tail feather progression and feather arrows of Dartrix

>>28932164
k calm your tits

>>28932138
But anon...
"The cat punch that this Pokémon can dish out with its strong forelegs is extremely powerful. It can bend iron bars and knock out large men with a single blow!"

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>>28932241

>>28932107
Rowlet3 has accepted that it's okay to get dirty sometimes.

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>>28923619
Use clear artwork, for god's sake!

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>>28932320
>Rowlet3 has accepted that it's okay to get dirty sometimes

This goes hand in hand with the Robin Hood legend and how he went from rich, arrogant young man into, well, Robin Hood.

>>28932398
hmm
comparing terracat and luchalitten
terracat have larger ears as litten and black claws.
Why would they remove such feature in the next evolution.

>>28932560
No claws > black claws > white claws
Seems legit to me

>>28932560
Not sure why, but it's not crazy. They removed Wartortle's crazy ears and Frogadier's bubble things.

>>28932398
Who the fuck is the retard who traced those? Like seriously, couldn't you find a better guy?

>>28926276
>that vibrant diarrhea brown
Stop that.

>>28932496
That art makes it look even better. I can't wait to see its 3D model. (It better not be flying like the sky battle situation in XY)

>>28932560
For the same reason that Wartortle gets its fluffy ears and immediately loses them

okay so if Kalos gave us Fighter/Mage/Rogue

is Alola giving us Ranger/Barbarian/Bard or Ranger/Barbarian/Cleric? or a weird bard/cleric fusion

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I need a protean froakie. Does anyone have a water friend safari or even just a protean froakie I can borrow to breed?

>>28932703
I think of Bravely default and its job classes, with Robinhoot reminding me of the archer job and Popplimaid of the performer, can't really think of one for Luchalitten though.

>>28932703
I wouldn't mind if starters were just RPG classes from now on

Sometimes I like to imagine the scenario that someone who worked on the design team came up with these, and they were rejected, so they leaked them to the internet as a cruel joke.

Man... Super unlikely... But wouldn't that be hilarious?

>inb4 They're too finalized to not be the final art.
Pro-tip. They're not.

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>>28932891
Sure, whatever

Stay in denial

>>28932560
Look at the fur inside their ears.

Litten's are triangles, Torracat's are sort of "chopped" triangles, and covers less of the ears, and 'Luchalitten's ear fur finally completely disappears

If you were looking for any design progression relating to the ears, that would be it.

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What if this was it's color scheme

>>28933048
>also almost completely disappear as a whole because fuck it that's why
???

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>>28933081
>disgusting mottled brown color

>>28932703
Theres a rare subcategory of bard called dancer

I love Litten.
I love Torracat.
I HATE LUCHAKITTEN.

Looks like I'm going with Rowlet...

>>28923619
Fucking

Confirmed

>>28933085
Many starters (and Pokemon in general) have prominent/unique design features completely disappear or change shape upon their final evolutions.

>Wartortle's tail
>Bayleaf's head leaf
>Quilava's head fire and spot
>Crocanaw's patterns
>Grovyle's head leaf
>Monferno's tail flame
>Grotle's gold plates
>Quilladin's brown and orange fur
>Frogadier's very played-up bubbles which are completely replaced by a tongue scarf.

>>28923989
post it please

>>28933298
Same. Or just stick with Torracat.

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>>28933298
Same
at least owls are my second favorite animal

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>>28933115
Dancer fits well with Brionne's description