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Pokémon TCG/O General: Pruned thread edition

Old: >>28912622

New? Start here:
>http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges for loadsa packs to kickstart your collection
>play through using basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>grind prizes/coins on Versus Mode theme ladder
>enter theme format tournaments whenever possible using coins
>using your winnings from the last two steps, enter ticket tournaments. You'll get tradable shit from those
>trade packs/chests for the cards in a deck you actually want to build
>don't open packs before you have a solid deck, YOU EARNED THOSE, DON'T WASTE THEM ON SOME SHITTY HOLO RARE AND 9X KRABBY
>public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers
>occasionally the thread isn't entirely anti-social and can get you deals on cards

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth right now, look for the PTCGO forums in the trading section.
>Your old IRL cards are probably fake or not worth caring about. Check TrollandToad, eBay, and TCGplayer instead of asking.

TotT: Nothing, go fuck yourself
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>>28921502
I have to bump or we get raped
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What deck should I make? I have Rainbow Road, M Gardevoir (Both Despair Ray and Brilliant Arrow), M Scizor (I think it's a bit overrated, but I've only tried it with Garb), Garchomp, and a couple of meme decks, like stuff that deals damage when it takes damage, a mill deck, other garbage. Tried M Rayquaza, it's boring as fuck.
Considering M Mewtwo, but I hate seeing it. This standard seems pretty boring at the moment.
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>>28921560
I don't think the thread will last. It's normally slow anyway, it'd be better off as a general on another board.
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>>28922314
We won't have a general on another board, the thread will get deleted. The only reason it's slow rn is the starter news.
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>>28922562
Nah, it's slow most of the day. I'm aware we can't have a general elsewhere, I'm just stating that this board is prone to massive shitposting.
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>>28922630
True and true
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>>28921502
I wonder if there is a way to see all the cards that are full backgrounds like that?
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>>28921502
Holy shit is that a real card? Art looks fucking awesome.
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>>28922714
>>28922716
Sorry lads it's from DeviantArt
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>>28922785
goddamit
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>>28921502
Burned is back again? Not bad at all since its a basic and can be used with volcanion ex but its good as a meme deck :^)
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Has anyone tried playing Dragonite-EX with Ninja-Boy?
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>>28922785
Oh, I see the sig now

Oh well
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how do you beat greninja without garb
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I might as well talk about my experience with the TCG.

I've always liked the cards, but never made an actual deck.

a week ago I bought a generations elite trainer box, had fun, got some ex's, and M-gard, nothing deck-worthy, but some good material for the future.

I like card games, but I'm not thinking about spending another $100 just yet, and I don't know if I should just get more generations material, or the S/M expansion, or anything inbetween. I'm aware of the problem that is shaymin, so I know I just won't be able to play competitively for now because of the cost. But still, what next step do you recommend for me for my collection to grow without fucking it up with something completely unrelated? should I pursue evolutions? or some specific expansion?
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Reposting for awareness:

I made between 15 to 30 packs a day for the past 3 weeks with this list.
Obiously you wont make as much because all of you faggots will copy it and saturate the market, but you will still be able to make some profit out of it.

Card, buy for > sell for.

Ariados, 16 for 1 SS > 4 for 1 SS
Spinarak, 16 for 1 SS > 2 Spinarak and 2 Ariados for 1 SS
Unown, 16 for 1 SS > 4 for 1 SS
Pumpkaboo (PHF), 16 for 1 SS > 4 for 1 SS
Joltik (PHF), 16 for 1 SS > 4 for 1 SS
Vespiquen, 12 for 1 SS > 4 for 1 SS
Regice, 4 for 1 SS > 1 for 1 SS

Sycamore (BKP), 16 for 1 SS > 4 for 1 SS
N (FC), 12 for 1 SS > 4 for 1 SS
Dimensional Valley, 4 for 1 SS > 1 for 1 SS
Shrine of Memories, 4 for 1 SS > 1 for 1 SS
Parallel City, 4 for 1 SS > 1 for 1 SS
Sky Field, 8 for 1 SS > 2 for 1 SS
Forest of Giant Plants, 8 for 1 SS > 2 for 1 SS
Rough Seas, 8 for 1 SS > 2 for 1 SS
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>>28923709
And the rewards.
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what's an ok budget deck for expanded? i wanna try the format out and join tournaments for coins
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>>28923799
Your standard deck
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>when you try to spin SR vs seeker but you are trash
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>>28923799
>>28923979
But remember to remove one card from it and add Computer Search in its stead.
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>>28921946
Just play whatever until the next set release.

I'm actually planning to try playing an expanded keldeo deck right now for shits and giggles.
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>three games in a row starting shaymin or jirachi
kill me
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>>28922562
>>28922630
There were go threads and pokken threads on /vg/.
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>>28923709
Well the method is pretty generalizable anyways.
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>>28923709
I tried a bunch of these and they all expired. Thanks for wasting me a bunch of coins
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these awful mid-evolutions are pushing us off the page. what will the SM expansion gimmick be, just the GX cards? Some type changes for the Alolan forms?
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>>28926142
Either GX or Ultra-Beasts.
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>>28926142
Megas will probably still be a thing, but GX will feature like lv X or Star mons did in other sets.
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>>28926108
I tried to tell you guys last time, this guy is a scammer
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>>28926683
He's probably trying to get a bunch of people to lowball so he can get trades by making them a bit better
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did they just make daily challenges harder? 16 KOs as opposed to 12, 1000 damage as opposed to 750.
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>>28927049

It changes as you level up. With the 16 KO challenges, you get tradable packs at least.
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>>28926683
>>28926727

I literally posted proof that it works yet you somehow call me a scammer.

You are either a moron or some faggot that doesnt want people ruining their jewing scheme.
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>>28927133
At this point, I'd rather they succeeded at discrediting the method. The market for those cards is becoming saturated from people attempting it, and applying the method to other cards is not as easy as it sounds.
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>>28927288
How many people do we even fucking have here?
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>>28927410
I don't really know but I'd be surprised if it was more than 20 or so
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>>28927410
You only need one guy to have it work for him, before he starts telling his buddies who tell their buddies who tell their buddies, who tell their buddies, who tell their buddies, who tell their buddies and before you know they told their buddies who tell their buddies, who tell their buddies, who tell their buddies, who tell their buddies, who tell their buddies, who tell their buddies and it just goes on.
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>>28927410
More than 20 posting easily, and probably a lot more lurking.
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>>28927133
>implying trades can't be manipulated
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>>28927858
>He's a scammer
>Nanner nanner
>Doesn't post the actual sell/buy value of the cards
>Doesn't explain how the method won't work
It's been working fine for me. You have to understand that the method in play works through bulk and having many different cards undergoing it at once. The profit is made from people who want the cards or packs RIGHT NOW, browsed the public listing and picked whatever as opposed to researching the value of the card.


Of course, the side effect is that the cards will drop in value the more people attempt this, which might be the endgame if he were to have ulterior motives.
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What is the minimum number of shaymin-ex with setup ability needed in most decks to win packs in tournaments?

Getting memed hard trying bros
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>>28928486
Alright alright guys im BTFO
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>>28928548
Consistantly? 2. Decently? 1. Possibly? None.
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cmon guys gimme dat sweet expanded budget deck, no shaymeme allowed, bonus if no comp's search
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>>28928634
literally your standard deck
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>>28928594
How many packs should I offer for my shaymeme hunt?

Currently have 1 RA shaymin. Is trading all of these packs away worth it for a second one?
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>>28928565
>Prefers to say he's BTFO rather than reveal his insider trader knowledge, such as actual card values or one of his own trading schemes, that would allow people to see exactly why the anon's scheme is bad
Fucking juice.
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>>28929182
Ok, look. Even if I think there's something fishy, there's too much success in it to deny it.

So you'd prefer to continue trying to win a debate that you've already won?
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>>28929281
Not him, but I've been doing this for a bit, and I have just under 300 packs of SS. Recently it has slowed down a lot, mainly because it's more public now. Trying to find some replacements for these is difficult, take advantage of it while you can.
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>>28929281
No, I'd rather get your insider knowledge. What anon posted was exactly that. He posted the how with examples (That will probably not work at all by the end of the week with those examples due to saturation). You can then apply this to cards other than the ones in the example and get yourself started by working on this 4 to 1 ratio.

Now, if some other dedicated trader were to show his own method or list the actual prices for the cards he's using in his examples, then that would be way more useful information than just going "scammer!" over and over.
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>>28921502
>Burn
I forgot that was even a thing in the TCG
Whose idea was that?
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Hey there, my 10 year old brother discovered my old Pokemon cards a few months ago, and now he really wants some for his birthday. I know it's a waste of money because he'll never really play with them like they're supposed to, but whatever. Can you guys recommend me some tins or boosters that are worth getting for asthetics and BIG attack numbers? Germany btw
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>>28930395
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/World_Championships_Deck_%28TCG%29
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So what's good in standard?
I've been out of the loop since a month before the rotation and now am trying to play catch up.
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>Use ultra ball
>Click wrong pokemon
>Can't evolve pokemon in front to take victory
>Lose
Losing due to human error is the worst
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>>28930428
>World_Championships_Deck

No those are the LAST thing new players who don't understand the game should ever have.
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>>28932008
Mewtwo, who gets killed by gardevoir who gets killed by scizor who gets killed by volcanion who gets killed by

It goes on and on.
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After a lifetime playing pokemon games I've just started a few months ago getting into the tcg. I'm not too keen on pokemon ex cards, are there any desirable qualities of other cards known to counter ex cards well?
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>>28932008
MMewtwo is the best deck
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>>28932059
Anything that can do 1:1 trades with them is sufficient.
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Any judge here? Does AO Golurk deal recoil to itself with its attack?
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>>28932322

Only if it gets Hex'd.
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>>28932360
So resistance prevent damage from any attacking pokemon?
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Is Shaymin EX FA worth 60SS? and RA 50SS?

I want to downgrade my Shaymin and get some packs but I don't know how much I should try to get.
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>all these terrible decks running tons of basic shitmons
>they start Talonflame

I run Talon and I never start him, shit.
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>>28921502
I haven't played the TCG since, uhh, Fossil? Team Rocket?

Why is there a basic three stage Pokemon with 70 HP? This things better than like probably than probably most cards in any set
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>>28932053
>scizor
Since when did Scizor become good?

Does anyone have a deck list?
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>>28932008
Mega Mewtwo
Mega Scizor
Volcanion
Rainbow Road


The other decks cant compete at their level of consistancy, speed and damage.

Then you have less consistant and easily countered stuff like:

Xerneas BREAK - Giratina
Darkrai - Giratina
Mega Gardevoir (PC) - Giratina
Mega Sceptile
Mega Rayquaza
Mega Gardevoir (SS)
Water Toolbox
Primal Kyogre
Primal Groudon
Vespiquen Variants (Yanmega BREAK / Eevelutions)
Vileplume - Jolteon - Glaceon - Ninja Boy
Greninja BREAK
Zygarde - Regirock - Carbink BREAK

Thats about it for the current standard format.
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>>28933252
>Since when did Scizor become good?

The meta relies heavily in special energy and stadium control and Scizor attack no only deals with both of those things, its charged quickly (2 energy) and 2HKOs anything in the format.

It gets shit on by Volcanion, goes even with M Mewtwo and craps on every other deck in the format.

>Does anyone have a deck list?
pic related
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Getting real sick of being unable to draw 4-ofs and losing to people who don't play any draw supporters and just get everything.
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>>28933324
>All those FA trainers and boobla
Good taste famalam
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>start Hoopa and ultra ball
>both Shaymin prized
>I'm up against Gard with no way to draw going second

>next game
>Hoopa ultra ball start
>both Shaymins prized
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>>28933324
Thanks, I'll try this build out.
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>>28933778

I'm still pretty new to the game and thus poor, so I don't have this exact problem. I hate starting with an Unown though.
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>>28933834
>first game is with Volanion

This doesn't look like a good start.
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>>28921502
Why can't all TCG cards be full art?
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>>28933945
Then it would lose its novelty
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>>28933939
Get used to it, matchups seem pretty biased at the moment in facing weaknesses if your deck has a positive win percent.
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>>28933945
1) The card face is the brand, and branding matters. Being able to tell immediately what game this is a card for is important.
2) It's hard to read the text on this card, even when it's facing you. This is more an issue with this specific implementation of the idea rather than the idea of full-art cards, but it still is an issue. (The best candidates for full art are simple and familiar cards everyone can recognize and understand)
3) Perhaps most importantly, card game designers know that they can drive sales to some degree solely by printing full card art, but only once in a while to maintain the novelty. For them it becomes a game of tactically deploying full card art to cover their losses on weak sets.
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>>28921502
no clue if this code expired or some shit but just in case
T6J-DV9R-Y9H-V7J
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So any suggestions to improve this deck or should I just scrap it?
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Anyone have an FA Shaymin they'd trade for 19 RS and 18 Steam Siege?
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>>28934519
Start from scratch, M ray deck doesnt need a secondary attacker, you should be attacking with Ray 100% of the time.

Something like
4-3 M Ray
2 Hoopa
4 Shaymin
3 Jolteon-EX

would be the optimal pokemon pool for the deck right now.
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>>28934701
Why the Jolteon? It seems out of place for a M-ray.
Also, I thought that Raichu was standard for this deck.
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>>28934830
>Why the Jolteon?
Free retreat cost and you can hoopa it to fill the bench.

This deck is all about speed, and with just the 4 Rayquazas you only have a 46% chance of starting out with him and attacking turn 1.

With the 4 Rayquazas and 3 Jolteons the 46% jumps to 88%.
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>>28934830
Raichu fails to 1 shot any EXs besides M Fug
Zebstrika does its job better and requires less maintenance to run
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>>28933778
>first round of tournament
>mulligan 6 times in a row
>go second
>forced to start with hoopa, all other cards in hand useless
And I almost won anyways
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>>28934978
>Zebstrika
What? How?
Raichu only needs a DCE to attack and can do 100 to 160 with a full bench.
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Is it worth putting a copy of Faded Town in a Raticate BREAK deck in case you can't set up Ariados or Garbodor is on the field?

Might also mean that the rare M Sceptile-EX matchup isn't an insta-loss.
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R8 my pull lads.
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>>28935711
By far best card in Legacy, better than Junk Arm.
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>>28935780
>By far best card in Legacy
Besides Computer Search.
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>>28936031
Also in expanded, doesn't count.
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>>28935584
Read Zebstrika
The carefully read M Ray
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>>28936067
What kind of logic is that?
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My ygo locals recently started up a side project on Pokemon TCG, it's pretty casuals

My housemate is buying up Shaymins like no mans business to stomp casual decks and I want to make him suffer, what do I build? Night March?
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>>28936229
Computer Search isn't a legacy exclusive card, and Smeargle is better for consistency anyway. Every top tier deck runs it. Two supporters a turn is broken.
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>>28936241
>My ygo locals
avoid at all costs
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>>28936297
Maybe I didn't make myself clear, I'm a ygo player too kinda
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>>28936187
Yeah it hits M-ray harder.
But for everything else it still his for 50 instead of 160.
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>>28936311
Gross
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>>28936311
I used to play but I like Pokemon TCG a bit better and play it exclusively
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>>28936322
I am fully aware of how awful yugioh is and the players who play it but my housemates basically give me free shit so I play with them

I'm taking the opportunity to switch now while I can, so help my ass

>>28936341
It is far more fun
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>>28936187
You know Ray is shit when this card is nowhere to be seen as tech.
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>>28936283
>Computer Search isn't a legacy exclusive card
Yeah, but it is still in Legacy. Also, Smeargle needs a lot of support since it needs to be the active pokemon to do anything.
Many more decks run Computer Search.
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Is M Mewtwo really the best deck? Seems pretty fucking boring and straightforward
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>>28936361
Well that and Raichu is just flat out better.
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>>28936472
Yes.
Damage change OP.
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Do you guys even play tcg or do you just sit and look at the pretty pictures?
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>>28936433
Many shittier decks. Best decks are Weavile, which can run Life Dew due to egg abuse, and CelebiGen which uses G-Booster. Smeargle is in every deck that has bench space because he's the best support in the tier. You see your opponent's hand every turn and can use their supporters for free. If it were reprinted you'd see it in tons of decks in standard.

>>28936477
Raichu isn't run either.
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>>28936472
>Seems pretty fucking boring and straightforward
welcome to standard
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>>28936521
I take it you didn't read the tread.
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>>28936510
>Fug, i'm 10 damage short!
>If I attack, he'll just clean himself up and put the damage on me, If I don't, he stays clean
Damage change OP, pls nerf.
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>>28936316
You're not supposed to be using it for anything else. M Ray should be your only attacker.
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>>28936548
>otk this 220hp pokemon or you lose

nice meta poketards
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>>28936607
The game has always been about OHKOs, not that new. The problem is how he can fucking clean himself up.
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>>28936529
>CelebiGen
That is a mid level deck at best these days.

I'm not saying that EVERY deck needs CS, but it has a much wider use than Smeargle because of the amount of support that it needs. It it still a great card, but CS is just more useful.
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>>28936580
Then what is the point of Zebstrika?

I think you need to reread the card because it doesn't do what you think it does.
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>>28936651
The current meta is all about 2HKOs.
The only decks that can reach 1HKO numbers are Mega Rayquaza, Rainbow Road, Volcanion and Mega Mewtwo.

Mega Rayquaza and Rainbow Road get crippled by Parallel City.

Volcanion gets crippled by Garbodor.

Mega Mewtwo reigns supreme because the only thing that can 1HKO it is Mega Gardevoir and its not popular because its shit outside of being instawin against Mega Mewtwo.
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Why are fossil pokemon so fucking hard to get on the bench? Most aren't even that fucking good for being technically stage 1s.

Hell, why is fucking around with the fossil even a thing? Can you imagine that?
>I know we're in a pokemon battle, just let me revive this fossil so we can fight!
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Is a Magnezone deck too slow these days?

Plan is to play Raikou and Pikachu EX with Jolteon EX too
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>>28936772
trashman
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>>28936782
are you saying I should run garbordor engine
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>>28936757

Fucking around with Fossils is technically a thing since well ... Fossil (the set), it is just that things have changed for the worse. Whoever thought looking at the bottom 7 card of your deck just so you can bring out a Fossil Pokemon is a good idea be buried and turned into a literal fossil
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Is this card bugged? cause my tyranitar had two of this and was killed by a volcanion EX and nothing happened, it says that the effect happens even if the active mon gets knocked out.
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>>28936772
As far as know, it was always a gimmick deck or a 3rd tier deck at best.
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>They printed almost a years worth of staple cards in one set
>Boxes of Roaring Skies cost an absurd amount
>All because of fucking Shaymin, Vs Seeker and Rayquaza

Tin reprints when, Pokemon was supposed to be the cheap tcg to get into
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>>28936794
pokemon with abilities aren't viable because of trashman
welcome to our fun and exciting standard
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>>28936720
Gard's better when you run it with Weavile, but nothing can save it from Scizor. Best bet is passing around Weakness Policy, Klefki and balloons.
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>>28936811
>opponents POKEMON-EX
>put 2 damage counters on the attacking POKEMON-EX
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Where can I get high res scans of the waifu full art cards?
I need Karen and Skyla.
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>>28936869
you are better off accepting you will lose with mega gard instead of making your deck less consistanty trying to patch the weakness

only an idiot would run weavile and weakness policy on a mega mewtwo deck
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>>28936886
But it was a POKEMON EX, I said it was a Vocanion EX.
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>>28936940
I said on Gard you illiterate buffoon.
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>>28936720
>The only decks that can reach 1HKO numbers are Mega Rayquaza, Rainbow Road, Volcanion and Mega Mewtwo.

Brilliant Arrow in Gardevoir/Xerneas BREAK builds.

>>28936910
>Karen
>full art

What?
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>>28937205
Uh I mean her regular art. I forgot it wasn't full art.
Thanks.
What about Bianca, Brigette and Winona?
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>>28937231
pkmncards.com

Also, try waifu2x.udp.jp if you need really high resolution for big prints or something.
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Is there a rule preventing me from using energies from Japanese sets? I really like the new energies from their reprint set and was thinking of ordering some.
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>>28937535

You can't use any Japanese cards at all (even basic energies)
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How dead is night march?
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>>28937651
There are literally zero night march cards left in standard. In Expanded, it's still cancer and kicking.
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>>28937651
Now that it's only in expanded, I'd say it's only mostly dead.
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>>28937674
>tfw you Karen a NM player after they used all their compressors
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Is there any deck in Standard that isn't just turbo a Mega evolution?
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>>28937743
Lucario and Rainbow Road have varying success.
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>>28937743
No. Welcome to the fun and exciting standard format
Next set will change nothing too.
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>>28937756
rainbow road is similarly as boring

literally just put things on your bench and attack
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Pokemon tcg might as well not fucking exist in the UK

It's impossible to find ANYTHING, and when you do find it it's fuck off expensive. I'm not paying $12 to get a piece of fucking cardboard flown across the atlantic.
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>>28937770
Fright Night Yveltal is kind of neat right now if that counts for anything.
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>>28937743
There's bunnelby/houndoom mill or vileplume/anything if you want a slower game. Both are still hugely luck based for whether they win or lose.
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Alolan Ninetales – Fairy – HP90
Stage 1 – Evolves from Alolan Vulpix
Ability: Mirage
When you attach a [Y] energy from your hand to this pokemon, you may search your deck for a Stage 1 or Stage 2 Pokémon and put on top of this Pokémon. (This does not count as playing that Pokémon or evolving.) This Pokémon is now that Pokémon. (Any cards attached to this Pokémon, damage counters, Special Conditions, turns in play, and any other effects remain on the new Pokémon.)
[Y][Y] Fairy Ball: 40 damage

Weakness: Metal (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2

Passimian – Fighting – HP110
Basic Pokémon
[C] Teamwork: Switch this Pokémon with 1 of your Benched Pokémon. You may move all energy attached to this Pokémon to your new active Pokémon.
[F][F] Low Kick: 50 damage.

Weakness: Psychic (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1

Guzma – Trainer
Supporter
Both players may look at their opponent's hand and discard as many Pokémon they find there.
You may play only 1 Supporter card during your turn (before your attack).

Do i do good at fake cards
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>>28937770
>just put things on your bench and attack
>just put energy on your things and attack
>just put things in your discard pile and attack
>just put your opponent's things in his discard pile and attack
>just put things on things and attack
>just do things

b o r i n g

>>28937797
At least you theoretically get all sets and promos and can use English cards at local tournaments everywhere except Japan/Asia and Russia.
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Have a /ss/ code. Guess the ? (it's a number)

7WC-HJ?9-M46-PGL
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Any theme decks worth buying with my gold?
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>>28938693
night striker and wave slasher both have cards that you can use to make a semi decent deck,
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820 points into the ladder and I'm already struggling to find the will to play most of my decks.
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>>28938693
Use your coin in tournaments so you can get tickets and then booster. Theme decks are a waste of coins
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>>28940765
>Theme decks are a waste of coins
Unless you want some of those coins that is.
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>>28940748
This is half the reason I started playing Legacy
It's nice to revisit all the shit decks from half a decade ago
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>>28940748
I make a new deck for every ladder because of this. The only fun I have is with shit like Garchomp and Shedinja.
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>your opponent runs more than 4 stadiums and isn't playing Groudon
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is that anon who was wishing for english Mandibuzz Break around? Pokebeach says it's coming in January.
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I just saw a sigilyph put 5 counters on itself when attacked. I'm guessing it's bugged?
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Are they any website for PTCGO online trading than the official pokemon website? I keep having issues with the official website
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is there any tech greninja can run to fuck with garbodor?
i was thinking of bats so you can do 20 to garb, lysandre it up and then kill with moonlight slash
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>>28932322
W&R does apply to self damage, if it is damage and not placing damage counters.
In this case, as long as Golurk's Ability is active, it is Fighting type and the Fighting Resistance will apply.
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>>28943201

How can bats do damage with an ability lock up? Use that noggin, Anon. Not reliable enough to rely on getting that 20 in before the lock hits you.
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>>28943201
Basically no, with power bands out of rotation as well as supports/items that remove item you have been cuck'd for now.

To be fair, it's almost an RNG fest to see who can get setup faster because garbodor needs minimum two turns to be setup and with only 2-2 in most decks it's not always going to happen quick enough.
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Hey guys, I need your help. I want to start collecting pokémon cards with Pikachu on the background, where the card belongs to another pokémon (like pic related). Can you guys help me out showing me some cards like that?

I've got this Slowpoke, a japanese Eevee promo, and Chikorita and Snorunt from generations already. But I'm having a hard time finding some others cards.
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donking greninja is one of the thing that satisfy me the most
fuck this deck as a non-garb player
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>>28943201
Your best bet would be FC Minccino.
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>>28943896
This. Beedrill EX would bee the other option.
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>>28933324
How could I make it work with magearna? What should I change?
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post your current Versus progress

i play 4-5 standard games then play theme with the new Electric deck at this moment, i think i'll get the N at this pace
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>>28946400
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>>28943616
Go for promos, they have a higher chance of featuring more than just the card pokemon.

I also would take a look for pikaclone cards, and Pichu/Raichu cards.
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>>28946188
Why would you want Magearna in a Mega Scizor deck?
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>>28946188
You wouldn't. There's zero reason to run magearna in this deck.
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Is it possible to get Shaymin EX for 44SS packs via public trades in ptcgo?
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>>28946725
go ahead and try, you'll have your answer by the next 24 hours
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>>28946552
>>28946656

Magearna gives Scizor a more solid matchup vs Raticate BREAK. If you put an energy on Magearna then you win.
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Wow, more legacy shit in the shop. Who would have guessed!

Anyways, it's HGSS Theme Decks, and the HGSS booster packs are available as well. They also have a promo bundle for 3 Plasma Blast boosters with Genesect BW Promo 86.
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>>28946969
>Magearna gives Scizor a more solid matchup vs Raticate BREAK

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

YOU WANT TO ADD MAGEARNA TO A MEGA SCIZOR DECK BECAUSE RATICATE FUCKING BREAK WORRIES YOU?

HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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>>28946725
Try 54
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>>28947248

I'm not the same guy m8. I use Raticate BREAK and win most Scizor matches as long as they don't have Megearna.
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>>28947291
Scizor has Garbodor.
Once you set up Garbodor the Raticate BREAK deck loses because it cant use Ariados.

There is no reason to add Magearna to that deck at all.
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>>28947341

You don't think I know about Garbodor? Raticate has tool removal to slow it down, and I run 3 Lysandre specifically for Garbodor.

If you let Garbodor get going using Raticate BREAK, you've failed.
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>>28946552

Realistically it helps you in matches against other Garbador based decks, such as the mirror match or Mewtwo. It can help prevent Damage Changes vs Mewtwo and against Scizor it will protect your Shield energy. Making them set up a Garbodor to take it away is an advantage to you. It can also protect you against an early Bubble against Greninja as well and I'm sure a couple other effects I can't be bothered to think of right now.
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>>28947262
there are currently some up for grabs for 50, nice advice m8.

Also yesterday there was some up for 44 packs but I was too slow.. I traded my FA Shaymin EX for 58 SS packs thinking I could get the RA one for 44 right after but nope..
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>>28947248
This is how you /don't/ give criticism. Go back to middle school.
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Is Raticate BREAK better with Octillery or Shaymeme?
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>>28947231
I want those coins pretty bad, mang.
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>>28947703
Shaymeme
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>>28947716
Yeah, me too. A shame the Cyndaquil one is shit compared to the gold one, but Totodile is on point.

Let's hope it's not a mistake and I have more than a few minutes to get my 600 coins off the VS ladder.
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>>28947248
holy shit facebook is leaking. are you a 60 year old mother of five who've ""flown the coop"" and you're getting into pokecards with your free time?
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Wew, just spent 4000+ coins in the shop for the legacy stuff.
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>>28948096

rip

another fool tricked by the bundle meme
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>>28947764
Can anyone suggest deck lists for Raticate BREAK?
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>>28948189
Nah I have another ~10000 coins left.
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>>28947231
Pretty good decks, by the way.
Two Oaks, Copycat, Pokemon Reveral, HGSS Switches for Standard, Communication, and a base for Typhlosion Prime. It's a shame the energies are basic instead of HGSS.

HGSS is also an okay pack to dump tokens into. Notable cards include:
>Jumpluff
>Ninetales
>Cleffa
>Slowking
>Pichu
>Sunflora
>Typhlosion Prime
>Donphan Prime
>Fisherman
>Collector
>Everything mentioned for the decks

I shouldn't need to mention why Blast is a good pack.

>>28948189
?
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>>28948190
4 Rattata BKP 87
4 Raticate BKP 88
4 Raticate BREAK BKP 89

48 Fight Energy XY
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>>28948214
Oh right, and I forgot to mention foil DCE, Rainbow Energy, and non-foil basics.
How much is foil DCE going for again? Something like 40+ RS each?
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>>28948189
It's only a bad investment if there is shit you currently need. If you already have your deck setup, there's little to do with them coins.
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>>28948238
Noish.
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Should M Scizor run Mew EX? It would help in the Mewtwo matchup by one shotting M Mewtwo and making the Volcanion matchup not that auto lose
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>>28948433
Even with Mew EX the matchup against Volcanion is still instalose.

And Mew EX would only help Mega Mewtwo win against you since its easily 1HKOd and gives 2 prizes.
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I just started playing tcgo and the tcg in general a couple days ago, how many packs does 4 talonflame go for in public trade usually? (I have 3 packs currently)
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>>28948623
6
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>>28948672
Thanks.
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>decided to buy some promo shit because why the fuck not
>got two of the genesects because I'll probably never see them again
>opened a virizion-ex full art

Not bad actually.
Should I get another genesect or is that card utter trash?

It seems pretty trash tier but I kinda want those plasma packs...
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Any of the new promo shit in the store worth getting? Otherwise I'm just going to keep buying tradelocked ROS in hopes I can trade off extra shaymins
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>>28949355

nope
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Is 4-3-4-4 the ratio for a Greninja Break line?
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>>28949627

It's 3-4-4-3
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>>28949355
See >>28948214
Great way to get some important Legacy staples
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>>28949627
1-4-4-3
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>>28949627
2-3-1-4
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>>28949627

4-2-3-1.
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>these new deckboxes for the new themedecks

wew lad
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dank memes
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>>28949627
1-2-3-4 :^)
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>>28949627
4-4-4-4
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>>28948433
G a r b o d o r
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>>28951606
Don't forget 4 Ash-Greninja
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What's the most fun deck you've ever built?

For me it was Entei/Charizard-EX. Too bad I discovered it about a month before Blacksmith and Compressor rotated out of Standard.
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tfw it's pay day
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>>28952111
so far for me it's Ray charEels, Night March is fun for scrub stomping when I was first getting started tho.
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>>28952148
Post regrets
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>>28952148
Gib codes
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>>28952111
I played against it a few times during Cities and States. It was certainly fun to play against. One of the many creative decks to come out of last season. Greninja kind of snuffed it out though.
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>>28952148
why would you buy FAC?
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>>28952148

>Binge purchasing

Looking at my LGS I am always tempted to just buy one of each of those 3-pack + pin blisters just for laughs despite the fact that I know I will go major neg from those packs
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>>28952166
this
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>legacy tournament is STILL unleashed
I honestly wish they would remove this pack from the client, it's easily the worst set ever printed
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I caved and just bought 2
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>>28952168
soon. driving home atm.
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>>28952111
I miss that deck so much. It was probably my second favorite after Tyrantrum/Giratrina. Volcanion just isn't as much fun as Entei was
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>>28952290
You could always move to Japan where both Blacksmith and Compressor are still Standard-legal.
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what's your longest losing streak? i think i've just lost like 4-5 in a row, about to just turn it off for the day
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holographics from the break through packet
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steam siege (this is like my 4th one)
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fates collide
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>>28952716
Tfw Altaria will never be good
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from another steam siege packet
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break point
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from the victini package
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the flareon I'd my new favorite card now it's so cute and it's my fav eeveelution
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>>28933945
Full art cards in this game are fucking awful
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this pikachu card is amazing too
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final cards

OK who wants the 11 tcgo cards
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>>28953216
Me tbqh.
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>>28953216
Are you sending them directly?
If so [email protected]
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there's still 3 codes after this

have fun
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>open with Hoopa, 3 links, mega turbo and energy

Das it mane
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>>28953322
Im thinking about marking over the final digit from the remaining codes for more fun and fairness

yay or nay?
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The Pokémon TCG has the best looking and best dressed playerbase.
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>>28953322
Thanks friend.
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>>28953378
also let me know if you fuckers get any legendaries or holographics or some shit

>>28953390
ty for sharing what you got ily
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>>28953408
Should I open the Legendary Treasure pack you gave me?

I'm kinda scared ;-;
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>>28953421
do it >///<
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>>28953441
That Cedric Juniper Card seems hilarious
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>>28953464
I looooove...Reshiraaaamm.
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Really getting fucking sick of all copies of needed cards being in the last fucking 10 cards of my deck every fucking game. I haven't seen an Ultra Ball in my first 30 cards in like 10 games.
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who's ready for the final 3 codes?

posting immediately after this post
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>>28953378
Cover them
I'd post the pulls I'd get, but the codes will probably be redeemed by the time I get home.
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>>28953574
The first batch got redeemed in like 5 minutes.
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Can you guys help me out, i want to build a Mawile-EX deck for the Online TCG game and am wondering what Standard Set Cards would pair well with Mawile. In other words what are some of the best Fairy Type Cards being used right now.
Also just cards in General that would pair well with Mawile
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>>28953583
It's a 30 minute drive friend
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>>28953505
Right as I say that Shaymin for my only Turbos and my last two energies, forced to Sycamore it away.
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good luck

let me know if you actually figure the digits out, or if you give up
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>>28953619
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>>28953619
Got the last one
posting pulls soon
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>>28953684
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Wew lad, realized that there is no way I can buy Shaymin EX or few IRL so I traded my online Shaymin away too and started playing without it so far so good with Greninja and Garchomp decks.

Prolly starting my live play journey with Garchomp deck since its just cheap as fuck.
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Oh boy I love every time I play N I draw exactly the same cards while giving my opponent everything he needs, without fail. That Super Rod sure loves me.
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>>28953619
>>28953670
wait
>client fucked up and gave me a bunch of free untradable fates collide packs
Here were my actual tradable pulls
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>>28953670
>>28953733
gj guys

the hidden digits were 6, F, P from top card to bottom respectively

as you see, I was being cheeky with the first die
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>>28953843
Can I be cheeky with you anon?
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My final cards were all my energy and both Lysandres prized, so much fucking fun.
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So standard and theme tournaments switched prizes. How long does this usually last?
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Trying to build a meme deck to mess with EXs, what do you think of this?
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Oh boi, look what I found in one of my locals GameStop.
It's pretty cool.
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>>28955001
Bueno.
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>starting hand is Scizor and all 3 megas
>forced to Sycamore
>Super Rod is prized
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whats a good base for every deck?

I hear people say 4 vs seekers in everything, 4 ultra ball in everything, 4 sycamore in everything, 4 trainers mail in everything.. what else? or is any of that wrong?
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>>28954770
>build a meme deck to mess with EXes
>make a deck that loses to 90% of the EXes in the format
Just make Carbink nigga
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>>28953505
I've had a couple of games where energies don't pop up until the final 20 cards in the deck. My deck has 10 basic and 4 special energy.
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>>28955686
Lysander, N and parallel city are cards that get brought up a lot.

On a deck to deck bases: Skyla, Hex maniac, Pokémon ranger, and float stone.
>>
XY Evolutions is such a shit and disappointing set. They could've saw XY out with a bang with the last hoorah of Mega Evolutions, but no, we get shit remakes and 98% shit cards in the set that not even meme decks can take advantage of.
>>
Is there any reason why offering two chests tends to work so much better to get cards than offering a booster? Hell, I've had offers with 1 SS booster + 1 uncommon chest expire while people take one for 2 uncommon chests.

Am I underestimating their value?
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>>28956431
It's psychological.
People like that it shows up as '2 uncommon chests' and not 'XY - SS (and 1 more)'
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>>28955686
Current staples are:

4 Sycamore
2 N
2 Lysandre

4 Trainers Mail
4 Ultra Ball
4 VS Seeker
1 Super Rod
1 Escape Rope
2 Float Stones


The rest of the trainers vary depending on what deck you are using.
>>
what packets/packages should I buy next time I get paid?
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>>28956987
singles ;)
>>
How many packs are Darkrai EX and Girtiina EX worth?
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>tfw you start getting 4/6 prizes out of shaymins
Based lysandre.
>>
>get 4 HG/SS packs
>get a fisherman
Worth
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>>28956295
I feel bad for all the retards who'll waste money on this set. It's not even good as a nostalgiabait since it's littered with a bunch of ugly EX and Break cards.
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>>28958363
Captivating Poképuff + Lysandre + M-Audino is working great for me.
I'm sure a better player has better strats, but averaging 1.5 prize cards per turn until Audino goes down is good for me.
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>>28953605

M Mawile-EX is shit in Standard, build Rainbow Road or Despair Ray M Gardevoir-EX if you want to run a Fairy deck in Standard.
>>
TGC newfag here. I'm just starting. What's the most optimal way to build a decent deck? How many pokemon/energy/trainer cards per deck?
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>>28958776
You copy shit other people built until you get a feel for how decks work
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Wew lad, bought that 3 pack with Genesect Promo Card from the store for giggles, got a FA Iris from my first pack and a FA Virizion EX from the third! Of course my luck would go in my favour only when the cards are tradelocked, eh?
>>
Which deck would you recommend to enter Standard with? I've been playing theme decks all week and it's fun. I'd like to enter Standard but I don't know where to start. What's the best way to build my tcgo collection? Where should I buy packs? Which deck should I build? And finally, does Shaymin rotate soon? How long would I get to play with him if I buy them? Thanks for the help.
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>>28959463
Rainbow Road is the cheapest option right now for standard. Getting ticketss from theme tourneys and then turning those into packs with ticket tourneys.

You don't need to buy packs to play the game, just use your extra tokens on theme decks for now as they can have staple cards in them along with getting you decent pokemon to use I recommend Night Striker and Wave Slasher.

Shaymin is going to be around for about another year I just bought mine off reddit but you can grind for him too if you have the patience for it.
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>>28959463
Seconding the rainbow road suggestion. It's surprisingly cheap for how good it is.
I wouldn't bother buying theme decks though. You have the second best theme deck (the new water one) from the start and you can't get the best (xy basic blue) at all anymore. Spend your coins on tournaments for tickets.
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>>28959463
If you have a single tradeable pack, get 16 Pumpkaboo or something similar. Pumpkaboo may not be the best investment now, but around a week ago I could trade 4 of those for 1 pack each, and get 16 for a pack. There's also a chance a lot of people don't really know the value of things like VS Seeker, or Jolteon EX, so if you're willing to exploit that it's a very easy way to double, or even triple, your packs. I went from 1 SS to 100 pretty quickly, like a week of overnight trades. So getting those packs would be the fastest way to expand without spending real money. There are certain cards clueless kids go crazy for, and they'll part with good stuff for it. If you don't have tradeable packs, do some tournaments until you do. I know there are pack rewards from those sometimes.

Look at the currently popular standard decks, and build one you like the idea of, or build your own around them. The most effective for its price is probably Rainbow Road. And Shaymin is around for a little while longer, but keep in mind that having 2 is worth it, but 1 is a bit of a waste IMO.
Alternatively, just spend money on it all to save yourself a week of trading.
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>>28959772
t. scammer
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>>28959737
>>28959621
>>28959772

Thanks. I'll consider playing the markets, figuring out where I can make packs. I'll check reddit's pokemon tcg section out.

I wanted to ask, would you just recommend rainbow road for being cheap? What I mean is, I don't mind spending more on a deck with more staples. I'm just coming over from Magic The Gathering and I'm worried about spending a lot on a deck with lots of cards I will never again have a use for/want to play with. If most of the Rainbow Road cards transition well though, that's cool.

Also, would y'all recommend getting VS Seekers and stuff like that through the Rayquaza/Kaledo dual deck? I can find codes for those pretty cheap. About 10 dollars each.
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>>28959772
I must be doing it wrong. I only turned 1SS into 30SS over this week.
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>>28961028
10 dollars the codes? bro no.
vs seeker aren't hard to get with trades
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>losing to shitty decks because you brick

Is there a worse feeling?
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