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POST YFW ASH GRENINJA WAS CONFIRMED

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POST YFW ASH GRENINJA WAS CONFIRMED
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>>28914704
I DIDN'T EXPECT THIS, IDK WHAT TO FEEL!
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>>28914704
IKU ZE
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>>28914704
>No longer has Protean
It's shit.
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Ash is shit but now he has his own Pokémon in the dex. Why did he had to contribute anything to the game.. To me, Ash is now Canon and part of the Pokémon video game universe
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>start the special demo with a special pokémon
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>>28915101

>Thinking Ash is shit.
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>mfw
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>>28915615
But he is shit.
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RICHARD BTFO. ASHNIME CONFIRMED CANON
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> Ash doesnt exist in the games
> not naming it Bond Greninja
> it sacrifices OP PLS NERF Protean for quasi-mega
Where were you when Greninja became a shitmon?
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>>28915828

>Thinking Ash doesn't exist in the games.
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>>28914913
Only at start. it's ability probably change as he changes form.

>can have items
>mega stats
it's going to be alright. going to use it.
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Instant pre order
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C R I N G E B O Y S
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>>28914704
Who /Shiny Ash-Greninja/ here?
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>>28914704
They didn't even change its name.
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I like it


Calling it Ash-Greninja in game makes me want to kill myself though
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>>28916246
Why the fuck would they do that?
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I thought they would just call it Bond-Greninja or some shit.

Nope, it's Ash from the anime.

I guess the fact that it already appeared as such in Shuffle and the TCG made this obvious in retrospect.

Now I wonder if transferring it from the demo unlocks a battle with Ash or some shit.
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>>28914704
I JUST HOPE IT WILL BE GOOD
I DON'T CARE THO I'M GOING TO USE THE SHIT OUT OF IT

A S H G R E N I N J A
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>>28914704
B-but is anime only!
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>>28916204
Can we even breed for shinies with that Ability?

Can I breed a team full of 6 ASH GRENINJAS?
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>>28916331
What next, Ash becoming canon in games? Give me a fucking break.
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>>28914704
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>>28914704
I'm betting it's unique z-move is that fire/water mega shuriken used in the finals.
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I hope to fuck that it is gonna be transferable to newer games/generations and isn't gonna be another Spiky-Eared Pichu or Cosplay Pikachu.
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>Pokémon that cannot take part under other battle rules
>Ash-Greninja
Thank God
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>>28916463
Those people got BTFO real hard!
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>>28916204
Oh holy shit yes
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>still no ash-pikachu
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>>28916509
His name is already canon
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>>28915724
I wouldn't call one in the top 1% of trainers shit lmao
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>>28914704

>it's literally called Ash-Greninja
>the anime is cannon

no sir I don't like it
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>>28916204
Have fun getting banned by improved hack check in sun and moon.
Just kidding.
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Battle Bond triggers his ablity to go Ash Greninja but his ability stays Protean once it does
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>>28916716
wow he sure runs into the top 0.9% pretty often then
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>>28916726
underrated
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>>28916875
>guy that OHKO a fucking elite 4's ace with a not very effective move
>hurr durr how could he lose

lmao retard
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"ANIME ONLY"
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>>28914704
>the way Ash gets rid of Greninja in the anime is by giving it away to you in the demo
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>>28914704
Oh cool, its a mega evolved greninja

>Ash-Greninja
>not yournamehere-Greninja
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>>28916875
Yea because elite 4 sweeper Alan is not in the 0.9% amirite???
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>>28914913
Depends on how its stats increase.
If it gets a good physical attack boost, having a multi-hit priority move will be rather notable.

And if it gets Mega-tier stat boosts, well fug.
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>>28914704
Disgusting. Really.
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>>28914704
As someone who didn't really watch the anime past the second season, what exactly is Ash-Greninja? I tried reading the Bulbapedia article but fuuuuuuuuuck that, that's a lot of words. Is it Ash and Greninja morphed together or not?
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>>28917007
I dont see why people complain about the name, like do yall not nickname your pokemon? Not like you'll see that triggering A-name who broke your dreams, every time.
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>>28917007
>Go Fukballs-Greninja!
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>>28917103
They have legit autism, that's all.
It's best to ignore them.
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Is breeding two ash-greninjas the equivalent of hot gay ash sex
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So we most likely get another mega fug?
See you in AG.
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I'm reveling in the tears of the animehaters. Literally B T F O
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>>28914704
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post yfw
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>Starters reveal
Oh wow guess the Chinese guys is the real deal. Can't wait for League building.
>Joim Avenue and some interactive Box shit
Oh okay, these look like your typical each gen's gimmicks.
>Mega Evos
A prevalent mechanic/gimmick by Gamefreak, huh.
>Ash-Greninja
WHAT THE FUCK. MY EYES. FUCKING HELL THE CANONS ARE BREACHED. THANKS FOR NOTHING GF.
>Demo-only yet transferable
Fuck no. Away with any Ashnime related canons.
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>>28914704
why would anyone want to use a choking piece of shit
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>>28917007
well it IS a greninja that looks like ash
it'd be weird if it had your name but looked nothing like you
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>>28917315
Take your autism back to r/pokemon.

and go take your meds, before your mom gets mad
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It was obvious it was going to be in the games. I just wish it wasn't literally called "Ash". "Bond Greninja" would've been good.
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>>28917600
Fuck off, James, that's just as retarded.
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>>28917542
Chill. I still hate Ash-Greninja with a passion. Pokemon anime disgusts me. Just an opinion.
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DORAGON KROU
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>>28917179
I like the way you think, Anon.
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>>28914704

> -_- for real?
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>>28917100
Basically it's comparable to raw form of Mega-evo.
No stones needed, but you really need to be mentally synced with Greninja on planes much further than with Mega-evo.
Also the process puts great strain on Ash's body, to the point that several of his battles with GreninjAsh ended with him fainting from the pain or a mild heart stroke.
Also the phenomenon grants access to full perception of the other one.
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>>28914704
It can now finally have the trainer it deserves.
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>>28917100
Basically Ash and Greninja become so close that Greninja can power up to this form. Ash-Greninja also has a few features that physically resemble Ash.
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>>28914704

DID IT ATTACK FUCKING TWICE IN THE TRAILER
DOES IT HAVE MEGA-KHAN'S ABILITY
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>>28918758
That was just water shuriken anon
it's a multi strike move
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>>28918758
That's Water Shuriken
a +1 priority move that hits 2-5 times, which is really nice but since Greninja is special almost no one used it. if Ash Greninja boosts its physical enough it will probably see use.
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>>28916675
Because it's NFE. There wasn't an Ash-Froakie or Ash-Frogadier either.
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>>28914704
OHMORIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>28918758
No, it threw some water shuriken :^)

What I'm more worried about is that it does not seem to have Protean.
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>being THIS mad over a children's cartoon show

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Now we'll never be able to expalin to the normies that the anime is not the real Pokemon.

I might not even buy S/M now.
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>>28914704
I was laughing so hard I was fucking coughing
I'm also pleased to hear a demo is coming again
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>>28914704
FOR WHAT PURPOSE
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I fucking hate it. Im not buying the game because of this bullshit.
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>>28919217
>I didn't play ORAS: The post
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>>28915972
Its ability is what changes the form. It's just going to get a stat boost, similar to evolution. It's not keeping protean.
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What's the issue everyone? You won't be able to transfer it to 8th gen like spiky ear pichu and other special pokemon anyway
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>yfw chicken appears in the SM anime using Ash-Greninja
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>>28919402

I did play OR/AS

What anime shit was in that?
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>>28917179
You've made this slightly better for me anon, I hope you encounter shinies early on in SM.
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>>28919217
They still think Red and Ash are the same person. It's hopeless.
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>>28919500
Arguably Steven's mentioned Alan.

But the main point of my post was making you recall that ORAS officially made multiverse concept a canon in Pokemon Franchise.

So you can just tell normies "Different timeline", and when they start to get uppity, redirect them to "Through a mirror, darkly" in Star Trek.
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>>28919500
Steven references battling the dude who cucked Ash out of the championship in a special or some bullshit, it's been a few years I can't remember exactly.
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Ash Greninja is exclusive to the demo?
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Does that mean we can give Ash heart attacks whenever we like?
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>>28914704
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>>28919666
you get it in the demo but you can transfer it to the full game
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>>28919666
No, Satan.
You can at least transfer it to games.
Whether it's obtainable in games or not, we simply don't know yet.

>>28919689
I am actually curious how they plan to do it.
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>>28919595

Isn't that about as canon as ditto being failed mew clones and other autistic shit?
I'm pretty sure one random NPC mentions something about it once and that's it.

As long as Ash-Greninja is a event pokemon that's nothing to do with the game itself I'll be fine with it, we had events for Ash's Pikachu and shit in gen IV. But if Ash becomes an actual character in the game's I'm officially done with this series.
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>>28914704
/Shrug
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Alan-Lizardon incoming
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the Shuriken looks Like a piece of leggo on his back
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>>28919632

That's basically just a reference, rather than an actual inclusion of anime shit.
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>>28919734
>As long as Ash-Greninja is a event pokemon that's nothing to do with the game itself I'll be fine with it, we had events for Ash's Pikachu and shit in gen IV. But if Ash becomes an actual character in the game's I'm officially done with this series.

He might be tied storywise to the demo, but the demo's story apparently is different from the game's.
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>>28914704
what if Ash lets Greninja go
and the Demo is Greninjas story continuation
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>>28919734
>But if Ash becomes an actual character in the game's I'm officially done with this series.
That's weird criteria, especially considering that Yellow exists.


And multiverse is canon because half of fucking Ever Grande together with Steven wanted to phase the asteroid into some random universe.
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>>28919383
You don't get it in the main game retard
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I fucking hate synchro evolutions and I hate Ash Meme Froge


I want to kill it
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>>28919007
Because it has Battle Bond retard. Only this Greninja has it.
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>>28918662
>Ash-Greninja also has a few features that physically resemble Ash.
But I don't want Greninja to be ruined with Ashisms
InB4 you can't ruin something that is already shit
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>>28919734
Cry moar.
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>>28915101
>o me, Ash is now Canon and part of the Pokémon video game universe
Welcome to 1998, you dumb retard. Pokemon fucking Yellow.
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Everyone is so triggered.
I knew it was gonna be in the next games.
Last season of the animes always reveal something new for the next games whether it be pokemon or a mechanic/ability.
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ash feels the pain ash-greninja takes when it's in that form
does that mean i can torture ash by letting ash-greninja get rekt?
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>>28916558
You know that's exactly what it will be though
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>>28916558
>My Spiky Eared Pichu bro will never be in another game

Why did they do this?
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>>28914704
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>It's actually called Ash Greninja

I think this bothers me more than it existing. I mean, Ash isn't even a game character, excluding the one time deal in Pokemon Yellow. Why not something different?
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>>28916697
Where anon?
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>>28920373
because it's ash's greninja
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>>28914704
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>>28920373
But it's based on Ash, and looks like him. Not to mention, Ash is probably giving it to you. I believe calling him anything else in the wrong thing to do.
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>>28914704
YEEEEEEEEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW7QU72Eo2s
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>>28914704
>Ash Greninja battle bonded with their trainer!
>Enemy greninja used Grass Knot!
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>>28917007
It looks like Ash. Why would it be Anon-Greninja if it looks nothing like you?
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>>28916509
Ash is pretty much Canon. He's pretty much Red in everything except for nae.
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>>28914704
I was kinda hoping Ash would be doing this with other Pokemon besides Greninja.
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>>28919689
Ooh, if AG faints then you lose the battle even if you had more pokemon. That could account for some OP stats.
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Okay, no need to pay attention anymore, it's just some more gameplaOHFUCK
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>>28914704
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I hope the Ash greninja theme plays when it changes form.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW7QU72Eo2s
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>ash greninja is a fucking ability
>not an evolution
>not actually synchro

WHAT THE FUCK

SO NO ONE ELSE GETS THIS BULLCRAP
HOWS THAT OK

WHY DOES IT TURNS INTO ASH WE'RE NOT FUCKING ASH
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>>28921421
With any luck it'll get stuck in this gen. Just like Cosplay Pikachu and Spiky-Eared Pichu.
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>>28916937
>only occurred once, several hundred years ago.
Is Ash a legendary trainer from the past?
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Mild disbelief but mostly don't care
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>>28915101
Kek you're serious? This has been forever dumping yellow
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>>28921655
no
it's a reference to the anime, the episode with the hidden ninja villiage
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I'd rather have Ash's Charizard desu

It'd be like a super-hard mode.
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>>28921813
Pikachu refusing the thunderstore. This was my infuriating for me as a little kid.
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Welp. Guess this means I won't be using the Water Starter for my run through Pokemon Moon.
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>>28921655
I'm pretty sure that refers to AZ's Floette.
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>>28914704
>not a mega but just an ability

eh, don't even mind
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>>28921942
so you were braindead even as a little kid
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>>28921878
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Thank God this abomination is only in the demo, so my game won't be tainted by this crime against humanity
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>>28914704
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>>28914704

if the evo's name depends on the OT then it makes sense they called it Ash-Greninja.
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>>28922167
But it's not. It transfers to the full game. This video literally says this.
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>>28914704
I REEEEEEE like I never REEEEEEE before.
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>>28914704
IT'S SHIT
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>>28922204
Anon just won't transfer it to his game
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>>28922185
That's uhh.... about right.
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>>28914704
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So will we get Alain's Charizard with a Blast Burn that's super effective on Water-types and has no recharge turn?
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>>28922067
Just wanted to evolve because pikachu began to lag in the game a easily faint with stronger pokemon. I ended up relying more on charizard and Venusaur on victory Road.
Oddly after that I always had a soft side for raichu
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If they want this to be an advertising point, why did ash lose the league?
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>>28914704
IF THIS PIECE OF SHIT MAKES IT SO THAT GRENINJA DOESN'T HAVE AN ACTUAL AMAZING DEDICATED M-EVO, I AM PERSONALLY GOING TO GF HEADQUARTERS TO RAPE MASUDA TO DEATH WHILE RECORDING IT. SCREENCAP MY POST.
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>>28914704
IKU ZE!
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>>28921696
>no more cute fat yollow mouse
Still salty.
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>>28922634
Done
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>>28914704
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>>28922634
>He thinks they're adding new Megas ever again.
Anon, I'm sorry.
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>>28915615
>never won a league
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>>28914704
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>>28922634
>Mega Ash-Greninja
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>>28914704
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But if this somehow made the anime canon, then where's Red? Red exists int he games but Ash is the Red replacement in the anime and Red doesn't exist there.

How are people not just seeing this as some sort of non-canon cameo?
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IKU Z
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>First post wasn't Charizard and Alain

You had one job.
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>>28914704
>bonds with the player character
>is still called Ash-Greninja
>still has Ash's features
You can't make this shit up.
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Wait does this mean Greninja won't be banned because his new ability balanced himself?
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>>28923427
Maybe it's not the Ash we know in the anime but an in-game Ash from the game's universe.
Alexa appearing in the anime before she appears in the game didn't make the anime canon
But seriously the lore in Pokemon is fucked up so it's meaningless to seek logic between the anime and the game
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>>28922185
this is strangely accurate
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M O T T O
O
T
T
O
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Wanna discuss the new starters with a bunch of people with similar interests? Check out our Pokemon Discord. https://discord.gg/aMZ4U5K
We got bi-weekly Showdown tournaments, and near constant discussion!

I'm doing this for you, Kuro. You better accept my damn attempts to date you.

I HOPE YOU'RE FUCKING HAPPY
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>>28914704
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This was bound to happen after the reveal of Zygarde's forms
But hey, maybe it'll be a Cosplay Pikachu type of form, the kind that stick to one game
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>>28922820
>what is the Orange League
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>ITT "I didn't play Yellow."
It's a cameo/reference. The anime isn't game canon any more than it was when Jessie and James showed up in Yellow.
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>inb4 blast burn is super effective
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>>28914704
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>Greninja gets sick of Ash's shit and leaves to come find me

COME WITH ME BRO I'LL MAKE YOU A CHAMP YET
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>>28914704
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>>28914704
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B U R A S U T O
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>>28925105
>Still looks like Ash

Goddammit, Greninja! That's why you lost! You were supposed to be like my brother!
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>>28914704
Rev up those Mega Charizard X's
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>>28920132
Because by late gen 4 they suddenly realized that baby pokemon no longer sell
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How can SM get worse?[/spoiler]
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>>28925409
Gen 1 pandering
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>>28925534
It's way too late they already have with alola forms
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>>28914704
After the demo I'm going to release ass-greninja.
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>>28914704
>Ash can feel what Greninja feels
Can we breed it?
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>Raise up your Froakie from a baby to a Greninja
>Form an incredible bond
>Your bond has caused your best friend to evolve to the next level
>Takes on the appearance and name of some random faggot named Ash
>yfw
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>Ash-Greninja is hailed as a prodigy child
>transforms via ability, which you'll be able to breed onto 5000 other memefrogs
explain this shit
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>>28925105
>Alola region
What champ?
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>>28925935
this pic fucked with me
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ahahahahaahahahahahhahhahahh faggot BTFO
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>make your character's name ash
>greninja makes sense
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waiting4denialfag
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>>28926947
im here

ash greninja will be demo only and you can't use the z-volution outside of demo :^)
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Fuck this. I don't want that fucking jobber on my team.
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>>28914704
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>Oh cool the new Greninja's form is in the game.
>Ability
>Ash-Greninja
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>>28914704
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>>28924340
Torrent Greninja was just fine as is, the problem is Smogon is autistic and refuses to ban a specific ability on a specific pokemon.
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>>28914704
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=y-4hP333Dqs
THREAD THEME BOIS
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>>28926239
It ends up being an unbreedable ability
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>>28914704
What are his stats?
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I'm more curious why the lass has a level 36 pikipek
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>No Protean
Into the bank you go, shitmon.
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>>28924519
Who the fuck uses Sébastien as a reaction picture on 4chin ?
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>>28914704
Does anyone have a gif of the transformation sequence? or him using water shuriken?

I saw one earlier, but it had the youtube bar popping up
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>>28922809
>Mega deniers have gone from saying no mega to no new megas
Will you fucks give it a rest already?
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Ash is Red, everithing kwons that
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>>28917265
this was not a surprise
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>>28924453
anyone else have this pokemon exclusively for their main team?
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>>28917315
Stop talking with all those "oh"s and "huh"s. If you're looking to talk like an autist, reddit is to the left
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>let Greninja faint
>somewhere, in an alternate universe, Ash falls on his ass
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>>28929050
please!
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>All of these denial fags tears

love it.
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>>28931148
yes
him and vikavolt have a place in my team for sure
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>Ash-Greninja is canon
>Ash is canon
>Anime is canon

If striking a friendly Swellow with Thunder doesn't give me thunder armor in gen 7 I'm gonna uninstall.
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MIZU SHURIKEN
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>>28929050
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>>28916509
>he never played fucking yellow
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How does this make the ashime "cannon" again? The fact it's even happening with someone other then ash would make it a non-cannon mystery gift, ashfags are pathetic.
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>>28920462
this is a kinda cool theory
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>>28914704
Great more grenija dick sucking.
>>
IKU ZEEEEEE

Honestly though, I'm kinda worried about no Protean at the start. Might be good though, since it has good offensive stats otherwise
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>>28916675
>Ashchu
>base 100 across the board
>Has an ability that makes Electric attacks super effective on Ground Types and Pokemon with Lightningrod (does not work on Motor Drive for reasons)
>cannot evolve

Might be cool
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>>28917315
>Getting this autistic

Zinnia's multiverse theory was right. So was Hoopa.
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>>28917648
>Liking the edgy manga

Just as bad as Ash's show but with violence and mary sues rather than a perpetual loser
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>>28919217
>Delusional PokeSpe fags being fags

Your garbage is just as bad as Ash's show. There's a reason no one reads it or posts images from it outside Arbok being cut in half or Zinnia getting fugged.
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>>28921878
>Took a fucking quasi-filler episode to make that thing less of a jackass

Thanks Poliwrath.
>>
>>28922634
>Ash's hatedom is this autistic

I wish SAO and Bleach's hatedom was this crazy. People need to spill the blood. Maybe with some dumb hacks dead people will learn to write better or be brutally raped and killed.
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>>28931878
600 club Ash Pikachu with electric attacks that are super effective on ground types will happen first.
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>>28914704
I'm pissed because it means that Delphox and Chestnaught get nothing.

If there was a whole Z-Form mechanic, at least then the starters would have a chance. Making it a demo-only Ability pretty much rules that out.
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>>28916505
Probably. You'll need to soft reset for a female if it works like a hidden ability, but why the hell not?
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>>28934816
welcome to Gen VI, where you don't need females for HAs
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>>28915951
>thinking that shitash exist in the games
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>>28914939
More of this girl
>>
cool now random battles can have even more edgy youngsters with the same 6 pokemon
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>>28934929
Pikachu says its name since 1999 and did it again a couple generations later

Ash is canon for better or worse.
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>>28917103
Can't nickname events. Special demo Pokémon counts as an event.

>>28921421
>no one else gets it
It literally uses the exact same gimmick as Wishiwashi and Zygarde
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>>28921697
It's a reference to AZ you stupid fuck.
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>>28916400
Yes. So we can crush ash with his own Pokémon. It's ok Greninja you're with a winner now
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>>28924701
This.
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>>28935157
If it's like the Glalie from the ORAS demo, you can nickname it before transferring.
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>>28935447
you can't nickname this greninja because its OT is Ash
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>>28935467
Source?
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>>28914704
So they decided to spite the people who always disliked the anime AND the people who liked the anime and got mad as fuck at the last season's ending in one fell swoop.

That's nice. It's nice when a company shows complete disdain towards it's consumers AND the lore of it's own game because I am sure as fuck we aren't getting other versions of Pokemon synchro'd with the female/male game protagonist.
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>>28935467
>>28935479

The site says that you receive him from "a certain someone".

http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/demo/
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>>28935541
You and 2000 manchildren say that.
Another 200.000 kids just want to kick ass with the ninja frog they saw on TV.
An they can do it for FREE, in the demo.
But wait, they get to KEEP IT if they get mom and dad to BUY them the games!
Little Timmy will finally prove that he is a better trainer than Ash!
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>>28915101
its a form, not a pokemon
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>>28914704
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>Had every member of Alain's team in my competitive boxes except Unfezent.
>See Ash-Greninja in game.
>See feature of uploading your team to QR codes so others can use them in multiplayer.
>Go make basic offensive Unfezent.

We better be able to add messages, I want to make a joke about using the team to kill Greninjas day in and out.
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>>28935606
Little Timmy probably is a better trainer than ash
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>>28914704
The thing that gets to me most is that it's still named "Ash-Greninja." If they just made it a Mega with a special activation method, I could tolerate it, but that they specifically named it after the Ashnime is what pushes it over the line into disliking the reveal.

It won't appear in the main game though, and I mostly play on Showdown where regular Greninja is already banned, so it won't negatively impact me that much at least.
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>>28915615
I would have thought all the Ash defenders would have died out after how hard he choked in XY. I thought the entire reason people who defended Ash were rising in number was because of how well he was performing, but the finals combined with him almost certainly getting a BW-tier nerf next season should have knocked the wind out of you, or at least humbled you a bit.
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>>28914704
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>>28935749
Well, not an Ash defender, but he IS in the top 1% of trainers in the anime. He just seems to be a critical hit magnet when he is performing well.
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>>28914704
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I'm trying to go in as blind as possible for Sun and Moon. So far I've seen the starters and a handful of those fancy kantomons. I don't want to miss out on limited mons though, does the demo give away a lot?
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>>28935606
I like Ash-Greninja, but to be fair those 200,000 kids saw that ninja lost on TV.
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>>28935783
>He just seems to be a critical hit magnet when he is performing well.

That, and the fact that his accumulated skills completely disappear whenever he moves to another region, him dumping all his best Pokémon every region as a hard rule, sometimes not even bringing back his stronger ones for the league to replace his weaker new Pokémon, and just the general degree of how dumb he can get post-reset, pic related.

None of these things are directly his fault (except the part where he dumps his Pokémon and almost never uses them again), and rather are the fault of the writers, but that doesn't excuse them as flaws.
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>>28935960
He only lost skills and got dumb in BW, he had everything in XY.
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>>28935907
>I don't want to miss out on limited mons
>wanting a shitty, hideous greninja that doesn't have protean
Feel free to skip the demo, anon.
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>>28935991
I could have sworn he had smaller, less damning nerfs in Hoenn and Sinnoh too, though he also climbed to greater heights than he was in the past region so it wasn't a sin. By now I don't accept that slow crawl as meaning anything because the writers have proven they will come up with any amount of bullshit to keep him down, no matter how strong he seemed previous.

By the way, since you seem like you watch the anime, has he dumped his Greninja yet, and if so how did they justify it?
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>>28914704
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>>28936068
No, he hasn't, the anime has been in two weeks break since he saved the region.

And in this league he got to the finals, you can call it bullshit if he doesn't win next time, but this time he got farther than he has ever gotten.
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>>28914704
i'm happy 'cause that shit will get ban after season 1 in vgc
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>>28914704
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>>28914704
The lore

just
got

deeper
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>>28935557
You get Eevee from Bill and it has your OT. So do the Lapras and Lucario in XY. And the Cosplay Pikachu, Castform, Camerupt, Sharpedo, and Beldum in ORAS.
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>>28914704
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