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Russian man did memetwo deck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v_0fezUKmU

If I want to try to trade my FA Shaymin for RA Shaymin and some packs, how many packs I can ask for on top of that RA Shaymin?

I'm really not sure.

>>28823538
>ENHANCED HAMMER ON A DECK THAT NEEDS YOUR OPPONENT TO HAVE ENERGIES TO REACH 1HKOS

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did I fuck up

>>28823585
>Your opponent will ALWAYS attach energies to the active EXCLUSIVELY

>>28823646
>What is Lysandre
Also they will eventually move it into active position.

Anyways, using Enhanced Hammer means doing 60 less damage and will probably cost you a 1HKO.

If you want to play disruption play something like Mega Scizor, using Enhanced Hammers in a Mega Mewtwo deck is moronic.

>>28823631
>japanese card
Maybe unless you just wanted to collect because japanese cards tend to be cheaper

>>28823832

To be fair, the quality of the Japanese cards tend to be better than international ones as well.

>Cheaper

Not when he just spent $40 on the FA Mewtwo EX when the English one will probably be $20~25

>>28823563
FA-RA = packs for them to add on maybe 1 less pack if you want to sell quickish

>>28823832
FA are always more expensive in Japanese

>>28823893
Of course FA minus RA but I'm not sure how much those are worth, I'm looking at Phantom Knight but it says 30 for FA and 25 for RA, but I have seen people offer 55 SS packs for Shaymin so even if that 30 or 25 means RS packs, it would still be just 45 SS, so I'm a bit confused here.

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>Opponent fields a trillion EXs
>Get perfect hand for turn 2 garchomp
>With two, TWO, strong energy
Time to go FAST

What are the ratios of Carbink/Regirock/Zygarde for that Zygarde-EX deck?

Thinking of building it and am not sure at all how many I need of each.

>>28824420

>>28823893
>>28823957
So do you know how much? I still don't know..

>>28824602
3-3 Carbink BREAK
3 Regirock
4 Zygarde

>There's no standard legal Latias worth a shit
Sad shit.

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>Buys for 1
>Sells for 5
Nice scam.

>>28824815
I do that shit all the time, except with cards people want and not shit like Latias

>>28824852
It works better with cards people don't want because there's no competition.

If I could run 10 ultra balls in a deck, I would.

>>28825126
Pokemon Ability triggering on discard when?

What is a good extended deck that doesn't rely on discarded cards? All I have is NM and Flareon/Vespiquen.

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>>28825126
Play Expanded with Dowsing Machine and you can!

Or go all out in Legacy. Junk Arms and Dual Balls to help you.

Don't forget your eggs.

>>28824815
I don't blame him for hustling from idiots :^)

>>28825154
Technically Exeggcute.

>>28825338
I feel like undercutting him for the lols. Just buy them for 2 and sell them for 4. Just because of how obvious he's being about it.

>>28825400
Why don't you crush this Market just like the meme spiders anon

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Started recently and packed pic related. Whats he worth?

>>28825617
Not much. A few packs I'd say.

>>28825617
That is BS now because of psychic weakness from m memetwo and m gardevoir

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>>28825692
>psychic weakness from m memetwo
>weakness
>m mewtwo

I sweat to god if this new ladder doesn't have a good fa at the end of it I'm going to be pissed.

>>28825953
better start getting mad now

Have they commented on the reason we can't crush cards for coins? The reason they are locked is so people don't grind in multiple accounts and pass it on to a primary. I don't see how getting coins from locked cards you don't want to get more locked cards you don't want is a problem, tho.

Are the new free theme decks any good?

>>28826085
You can redeem an infinite amount of Rallying Cry theme deck.

Both myself and my opponent just discarded our 4 VS Seekers in our opening hands. Did they make the shuffling even worse?

>>28826166
>Did they make the shuffling even worse?
Yeah. I'm friends with someone on the dev team. He says they got a government grant to develop an advanced AI that can analyze your deck dynamically, calculate what the worst hand can be, then purposely increase your chances of pulling that hand. The AI also knows when you're recording your results, so all those graphs and charts people have made to show that it's truly random don't count. It took several years and a partnership with DARPA to make, all for no reason other than to upset players, of course.

He said they considered using the rng you learn in your first day of CS 101 that returns a virtually random value, but they had such a huge budget that such a quick, easy, and cheap solution wouldn't be worth it. I mean, why spend seconds doing the most basic implementation of a random number generator when you can commit months of mantime and algorithm development every patch just to make sure anon on a pakistani facepainting forum and his twelve-year-old opponent can both open four vs seekers?

>>28826369
Autism

>>28826382
I agree, thinking there's anything wrong with the shuffling is autistic.

>>28826369
kek

>>28826115
They could just differentiate Theme Deck locked cards and Booster/Reward locked cards.

>>28826091
No, not really

>>28826613
too much work for something not many people want.

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>>28825692
>M Mewtwo weakness

>>28826639
Alternatively, just look into the Rallying Cry code and make it so that you can't redeem the deck an infinite number of times anymore.

>>28826653

Most M Mewtwo decks pack Shrine of Memories to let them use Shatter Shot and Damage Change after Mega Evolving.

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Has the AI gotten worse or has it always been awful? Grinding the trainer challenge and the AI keeps attacking with the worst move even when fully powered up and sometimes just skips attacking completely kek

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I opened up a bunch of packs a little while ago and got these, are any of them worth anything? I'm new to the TCG if that wasn't obvious.

>>28826832
There is nothing wrong with the AI. You're just meant to win.

>>28826369
The rng was always shit famalam

>>28826835
Some are alright but why open packs tho unless they're locked because the unlocked packs are currency in the game famalam

>>28826712
Damage change as nothing to do with weakness

Shatter Shot requires four psychics to OHKO M Alakazam

>>28826835
Gardevoir might fetch you a few packs, as might Sceptile. None of the other tradables are worth anything special but you'll still be able to at the least trade them 1:1 for a new pack.

>>28826881
No it hasn't.

>>28826937
Not him, but this exact reason is why people tech Bluetwo (and eventually the Legacy Mewtwo instead) since you can use DCEs to fuel the second attack and save yourself one energy in the mirror.

>>28826949
Say that to my 3 vs seekers and sycamore and calculate the percent of it happening

>>28826934
I opened them because I didn't know any better. I didn't realize packs were currency until the damage was done.

>>28826969
It actually has the exact same chance as any other given hand. That specific combination has no inherent higher probability than the rest. If it did, the implications would be huge. The team behind PTCGO would be breaking ground in the field of data analysis.

>>28826971
That's ok, at least try not to open them unless you feel risky

>>28826937
KOing Alakazam isn't an issue no matter what. Activate Garbotoxin and he loses to literally everything. Enjoy 10 damage a turn.

>>28827000
Alakazam ex can use team magma base just in case there's a garbomeme

>>28827115
It needs Sky Field to set up and the opponent can just counter before placing anything. Even then that's only 70 damage.

Kind of wish there were more cards like Foongus to make using the regular old Poke Ball more reliable and viable.

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>>28826712
Yeah but that's technically regular Mewtwo-EX

>>28826873
Oh, really? I must be bad at this game then...

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lol

>>28828165
?

What's the cheapest reasonable deck right now?

>>28828574
The only decks that are guaranteed to be on the tier list are M Mewtwo, M Ray, and a Giratina variant (Darkrai as of right now). None of those are cheap.

ANY OTHER DECK is pure speculation. Only these three decks have an objective tournament history. If someone recommends something like Rainbow Road, Xerneas/Giratina, M Scizor, or M Gardevoir, kindly remind them that there is no empirical evidence to back up their opinion before disregarding their post.

And when it comes to these speculative decks, you have several dozen choices to pick from.

>opponent spams "You have a good deck!" while he's drawing dead at the start of the game
>before the update he'd likely be crying that it's a good matchup for him and that I'm super lucky that his deck is failing

loving every laugh

>>28828710
There's no guarantee that decks that do well in tournaments will continue to do well, since everyone would be looking to counter it.

To actually answer >>28828574, I think a Volcanion deck would be pretty cheap to build right now. I've been doing pretty well with a similar deck, though water decks seem to be everywhere. Alternatively, depending on how competitive you want to be, look through your tradelocked cards to see if there's anything worth building around that.

>>28828574
Play what you want to play, with the cards that you have, that feels comfy, and expand on it.

>>28828574
im playing Msceptile and it was fairly cheap

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>>28828574
Im planning and building a new meme deck right now.
Wish me luck anon

>>28829459
I hope its a deck that revolves around sending cards from your opponents hand/deck to the discard pile.

>>28829511
Nope
It will be a RNG FEST full of coin flips

If I find myself unable to complete it, I will ask /ptcgg/ for help [\spoiler]

I wish people streamed this game more often

Public trades are fucking depressing. Going through all those garbage offers, scrolling through to reach the most recent trades, find something that is actually alright, take it, and you're forced to scroll through it all again. Who thought that was a good idea? Why the fuck can't they be sorted by most recent?

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r8/h8 the meme

>>28830199
What would you even like to see streamed?

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Was this card used a lot when it was allowed?

That ability looks crazy good like what the fuck..

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>>28830654
Not really. Late Gen 5 in general was really unforgiving to Stage 2 Pokemon, because the decks of the time - TDK, ViriGen, RayEels, Accelgor, Darkrai/Sableye - were very fast and oppressive. If you wanted to run a Stage 2, it pretty much had to be a win condition on itself, such as Blastoise or Gothitelle.

And being able to use two Supporters is eh at best, especially considering the Supporter lineup of the day. The only non-draw Supporters of the time were Ghetsis, Jim & Cas, and Iris, none of which are amazing. And you didn't really want to be dropping two Junipers or N every turn, mainly because you didn't need to. The only thing that really slowed down the format was waiting to attach energies.

Funnily enough, it's a really good tech in pic related's deck in Expanded. Not that there are any good Pokemon to pair it with.

>>28830247
I built something similar to this a while back with slowking & ludicolo, move energy to other pokemon and bring a pokemon forward.

Sadly the flips werent that kind and it was kinda hard to use.

>>28830738
I'm a gen6 kiddie which only got in about 1-2 months ago through PTCGO so I don't know the gen 5 meta.

Which Gothitelle and Blastoise were prominent? By a quick glance at Gothitelle I wanna guess it was the one with magic room in order to lock decks and I wanna say the blastoise was the one with hydro launcher and wash out?

Did rare candy exist then or was it just a matter of rushing your evolutions? I know it was made earlier but I'm not sure about reprint times.

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>>28830856

the flips are the best part

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>>28830978
The Deluge Blastoise, it did the same shit the GBC Blastoise did juice up shit quick for huge damage

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>>28830978
You're right about the Gothitelle, but it's this Blastoise specificially. You paired it with Keldeo EX and Black Ballista Black Kyurem EX for very easy knockouts.

Gen 5 was when the EX meme started, and it's what gave everyone the idea that EX Pokemon were unbalanced overpowered juggernauts. Even though that wasn't exactly true back then and definitely isn't true today.

>Did rare candy exist then
Yes.
Fun fact: Switch, Energy Retrieval, Potion, Pokemon Breeder/Rare Candy, and Double Colorless Energy have all been legal for every single format.

Wew, been looking to buy some IRL cards and found these codes for sale:

168 XY 0,1€
119 Flashfire 0,1€ 1
62 Furious Fists 0,1€
48 Phantom Forces 0,15€
113 Primal Clash 0,15€
103 Roaring Skies 0,2€
92 Ancient Origins 0,15€
30 BREAKthrough 0,15€
5 BREAKpoint 0,2€
3 Double Crisis 0,3€
2 Tyrantrum ? EX Box 0,5€
1 Mega Diancie EX ? Premium Collection 0,3€
1 Mega Absol EX ? Premiun Collection 0,3€
1 Pokemon TCG: Mega Rayquaza Collection 0,3€
1 Pokemon TCG: Mega Latios Collection 0,3€

Seems pretty cheap, I mean I bought few codes for 1-1.5€ before from online at the beginning when I started, I think I'm gonna buy like half of those and basically be rich in ptcgo lmao, also the packs that are not allowed in standard so I can experience some older cards in Expanded as well since I only play this game since few months.

>>28831247
The only packs worth buying there are the Roaring Skies, Breakthrough and Ancient Origins the rest of the packs are too expensive in relation to their value ingame.

Even then, I wouldnt say you would be rich after buying those, you cant even get 1 SR Ultra Ball with all those packs.

103 RS, 92 AO, 30 BKT can only get you 2 FA Shaymin and 2 FA N.

>there will be a day sometime near in the future where N, shaymeme, and Lysandre are rotated out

It will be a very strange day.

I'm going to win world's. Screen capture this.

>>28831389

N and Lysandre both have pretty critical effects, so I doubt we'll lose either for long before they are either reprinted or something replaces them. I could see N leaving if stuff like Judge and Ace Trainer sticks around, but I'm not sure what they could do with Lysandre. Nobody liked Catcher before it was nerfed because it was too strong, and people sure as hell don't like it after it was made so inconsistent. I could see them printing something like Pokeblower+ again.

>>28831354
Rich meaning I can finally build proper teams and get the staples etc. I don't care shit about FA, I'm actually trying to sell my FA Shaymin for RA and some packs but don't know how many packs I could ask..

>>28831433
We didn't have N for Cities, winter regionals or States last year and it fucking sucked. Judge and Ace are shitty substitutes.

>>28831389
shaymeme needs to go

Has there ever been a card of that dominance before in the Pokemon TCG? A $90 staple for standard? Fucking $300+ for 4 cards? Magic is usually the more expensive game when it comes to standard, but now every single deck that runs a few Shaymin will beat out the best deck in Magic standard by far.

You know TPC sees the increase in profits from this too. Got to wonder if they're going to try some fancy shit in future lines.

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>>28831433
>N and Lysandre both have pretty critical effects
Not really.
Don't forget this game is twice as old as the average /vp/ poster. There were many, many formats without a Gust card or a draw/disruption Supporter.
For example, the only other card with a N/Judge/Ace Trainer effect was Desert Shaman way back in Gen 3, which most decks didn't run. And technically Looker's Investigation in Gen 4.
Other than Gust of Wind, we've only had Catcher in Gen 5, and Pokemon Reversal in Gen 3 and 4 that worked like errata'd Catcher.

Meanwhile junk like pic related was considered a 4-of in 2004-2006, and the game was just fine back then. We don't *need* any specific staples. If anything, finally rotating these five-year-old staples would be a much-needed breath of fresh air.

>>28831544
There have been plenty of cards in the past pushing over $80 each, but no generic staples not counting cards like Tropical Beach.
Unless you count formats like LuxChomp where if you didn't pay $90 for each Luxray, you weren't going to win any games.

>>28831544
>he didnt buy a playset when they came out

Also even with a Shaymmeme staple going for $90 Pokemon is still WAY cheaper than MtG and YuGiOh

>>28831602
Is it really? The best deck in MTG standard right now is Bant "X"

Bant Company runs $290.
Bant Humans runs about $250 I think.

These are the meta defining decks, if you play anything else you don't really want to win. T&T is a bit overpriced, but the non-fullart Shaymeme is going for $90 a pop.

Take about $10 off, 80x4 = $320 for 4 cards. The rest of the cards in Pokemon usually aren't too bad, but add those nickles and dimes add up.

Yugioh I have no fucking clue about.

>>28831684
I also forgot to add:

Collective Company rotates out tomorrow with Kaladesh, no more Bant shit winning everything. Though the best decks in the format might look a little pricier with that.

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I'm sure everyone here is an expert on shit Legacy decks, so who can tell me how to improve this steaming pile? There are a grand total of zero relevant lists online to use as a reference, so I had to pull this 100% out my ass.
Problems include:
>I only have two copies of my only attacker
>My only attacker shits itself every time I take a prize
>I deck out every other game because I have to mill myself just to attach an energy
>The game 3D prints out a gun for me to shoot myself with every time I play Legend Box
What the fuck do I fit into this garbage? The one list I found online decided to max out Terrakion NVL and fit in a half dozen Fighting Energies because only a fucking idiot would want to post a list for this shit.

>>28831684
Add in the price of attackers, usually about $60-70 per deck, vs seekers, various other supporters, it can get pricy.

>>28831684
>Yugioh I have no fucking clue about.

There's a currently a staple in almost every deck that is run at 3 and costs $80. And then we start getting into the rest of the main deck contents we're usually talking $200 at a minimum. The extra deck varies, some staple extra deck cards can run $30-50. Side deck cards aren't necessarily cheap either. AND most of this is not usually interchangeable. If I wake up and decide I want to play Blue Eyes but I have BAPK as my current deck, I'll have to change my main, extra and side decks. At least Shaymin is in every deck.

The whole thing ends up being orders of magnitude more expensive than PTCG.

>>28831602
>b-but it's still cheaper than mtg
fuck off

retards who bankroll on yugioh should be parted with their money anyways

>>28831940
Decks run 2 Shaymins and you can easily get them for $70.
VS Seekers go for $7 right now.
A set of attackes + hoopa are about $70.
The rest of the trainers and energies you can get them all for less than $20.

Thats less than $250 for a top tier deck where the only thing you need to change is the set of attackers worth $70 to have another consistant top tier deck.


Any other TCG not only a top tier deck goes for somewhere between $300-500, but if you want to get another top tier deck you need to pay another $300-500 because they rarely share the same cards.

Shaymin goes if EVERY deck, thats not a negative thing, its a positive one because once you get them you can easily build any top tier deck for cheap and thats something that you dont see in any other TCG.

>>28831980
TCGs are an expensive hobby.

Do something else if you cant afford it.

>>28832085
/vp/ financial advice 2016

I can afford it, thanks for the concern.

>playing game vs m-mewtwo
>he literally has the perfect start
>manage to OHKO his m-mewtwo however due to some luck with max elixer and double energy
>lmao it doesn't matter and he manages to fucking OHKO my xern due to having the ability to set up his second m-mew instantly
>setting up my second xern and need one more turn since had to max elixer and my second max elixer flubbed so only 2 energies
>he lysanders
>okay w.e, I'll try again
>he fucking lysanders AGAIN with vs seeker
>set up a fucking third xern and need literally one turn due to double energy in hand
>he trainers mails for a second fucking vs seeker

This game is just utter horseshit sometimes with luck on one side.

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>>28832156
Well your first problem is running rainbow Xerneas.
But also there is no luck, its all deck comp. Make your own luck boi.

>>28832232
Rainbow Xern is my meme deck anon, and one I feel that has legit potential.

And it is luck anon, as much as people can argue deck comp sometimes you will need to rely on luck. If all your scizors get prized at the beginning of the game and you're running mega scizor then you have to deal with it unfortunately that you lost before game start.

There is an aspect of luck to this game end of day.

>>28832232
>But also there is no luck
>no luck
>several of the mechanics of the game rely entirely on luck

lmao

>>28832232
>there is no luck
>hitting heads 7 times in a row is not luck

>>28831698
Thank fuck that shit is rotating out, so tired of it. Maybe we can get back to real magic.

But yeah a lot of other tcgs can't compete with the price of magic

i haven't worded my question well in the previous thread:

what i can expect to get out of a uncommon chest on the trade market?

>>28832290
>>28832296
>>28832297
Any mechanic of luck can be countered by deck comp.

>>28832437
>draw hand of 2 shaymeme, 4 vs seekers, and an energy at the beginning of the game
>countered by deck comp

T-thanks.
Luck is definitely able to be managed but not every time can it be overcome.

I've legitimately used N to get rid of a hand at the beginning of the game and literally drew into a hand of ONLY energy.
I only had 10 energy in that deck and one was already attached.

>>28832466
Why do you need 4 VS Seekers in the first place?

>>28832485
A-are you kidding anon?

Like... Seriously?
I'll assume you're ruse'ing and move on.

My local wal-mart has those legendary bird decks in stock. Weird that no one has reported anything on them, no images, no release date. Should I pick one up? They're 20 fucking dollars

>>28832571
There should be a decklist on the back of the box. At the very least take a picture of that, and of the cover cards themselves if you can see their attacks.

Who wants to bet they're just reprints of the shitty RS cards?

>>28832585
Articuno at least is the plasma one but it says special energy instead of plasma energy

>>28832599
What

>>28832437
>prize multiple attackers
>prize multiple energies
>prize multiple spirit links
>prize multiple Shaymin
>prize Hoopa
>prize draw supporters
>prize stadium

>put to sleep
>stay asleep
>stay asleep
>stay asleep
>knocked out

>opponent gets heads on Crushing Hammer and Laser
>opponent gets heads on Crushing Hammer and Laser
>opponent gets heads on Crushing Hammer and Laser
>opponent gets heads on Crushing Hammer and Laser

>opponent denies prize with Super Scoop Up
>opponent denies prize with Super Scoop Up
>opponent denies prize with Super Scoop Up
>opponent denies prize with Super Scoop Up

Yeah deck comp is all that matters

>>28832485
It's the best card in standard

>>28832610
>laser
>scoop up
serves you right for playing the comedy format

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>FuF Dragonite EX is getting a reprint in a promo box
I'm genuinely so happy
This card has insane synergy with Ninja Boy
>Consolidate all your energies on a full-HP Pokemon to Ninja Boy into whatever
>New DDE target so you can pull two energies, attach a DDE from hand, then Ninja Boy into a fully loaded surprise Giratina
>Basically a mini-Keldeo

>>28830553
descent games played by actual pros and not the retards/autists on twitch right now

>>28832724
>not the retards/autists on twitch right now
>tfw I've been streaming
o-oh

>>28832671
At least theirs decks beyond 'put your energy on the mega and attack' in that format

>>28832334
>R/G Energy
>Vehicles look viable as fuck
This set is looking pretty dope. They really pushed these new mechanics.

Plus I get to use my foil energies for counters when I play/draft to look that much cooler.

>>28832671
I've been playing for three years. I know this is babby's first format but I didn't have any choice when these cards were standard and in every deck.

>>28832485
>deck comp is the most important thing
>why do you need 4 vs seekers
found the retard

>>28828710
pure speculation =/= educated speculation you fucking mong. If someone wants advice, getting pedantic doesn't help anyone.

>>28830978
Deluge Blastoise along with Archies Ace means you can quite consistently get it out on the very first turn and start attaching energies straight off the bat.

>>28831684
yeah but, you have a core of Shaymin, Supporters, and a few items that are universal in all decks. Half the reason Shaymin is so expensive is that every deck can benefit from it. So if you have four, you are set for every deck for every tournament.

I know fuck all about MTG, but by the sound of it, the cards needed for Bant aren't the same cards needed for the next hot deck and you end up laying out the money every time. That's spending compared to investing.

>>28833014
>yeah but, you have a core of Shaymin, Supporters, and a few items that are universal in all decks
Not him, but that's actually the problem here. Even if you want to play a shitty budget deck, you NEED the Shaymins and Supporter core, because you yourself said that they're universally important.

Meanwhile in other card games, if you don't want to drop $X on Bant or whatever the T1 fotm deck is, you can just avoid it completely and play a budget deck.

>>28832872
I actually am retarded, you're right, decks need 4

>>28832675
it's a pity fairy is on a high because the potential with this card and ninja boy together is huge.

>>28833037
are they actually competitive though? Genuinely asking, I have no idea.

Comparative to something like say, Greninja with no Shaymin, hoping to avoid Garb decks? Remove the Shaymin from the equation and the price is minimal. And not every deck needs four or even three.

In fairness, they are mad not to release a Shaymin box. Do they even make any money themselves from the secondary market.

>>28833082
No, it's a secondary market for a reason. It isn't like wizards who's bans and unbans can swing market prices and the personnel with inside information can take advantage of it.

>>28823512
>shit card games on a video game board
>tl;dr threads
wtf

>>28833037
>magic
>budget deck

There are no budget decks in Magic, you either play top tier decks or you lose hardcore.

By that logic you can also play budget shit in Pokemon without Shaymins, hell you will have more chance against top tier decks than a budget deck would do against MtG tiered decks.

>>28833082
>>28833105
>Do they even make any money themselves from the secondary market
It's secondhand profit from the secondary market. People and stores/single sellers will seek after and open more RS for the chance of the money card, which is just more $$$ for TPC.

The newest Magic set has a 1/144 chance (or some shit like that) for a "invention" to be in a booster. Those inventions sell from $80-$250+ and incentive everyone to open more than usual. The problem is the base cards in the set get watered down hard in price, but why would Wizards care? You bought more product. They made more money. I doubt we'd see that kind of thing in Pokemon just from how it's structured but you never know.

>>28833126
You should leave, this is not a good place for someone as young and new as you.

>>28833126
guys look /v/ blew in

>>28833191
>and open more RS
At the very least, local game stores cannot get roaring skies packs.

>>28833126
>video game board
??

>>28833163
What the fuck? Have you never had fun before or just don't know how magic works?

Of course in the fucking Pro Tour you don't want to run a $40 deck, but trying something fun and unique at FNM or just pure casual play is great.

Even that said, Mono-white Humans is a very viable deck in standard and only $80. With Bant around it would never win, but you can easily top 8.

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>>28833163
>There are no budget decks in Magic, you either play top tier decks or you lose hardcore.
No? This isn't true at all. You're misunderstanding the point and coming to some pretty wild conclusions.

Here are some results from last format's Cities, some 240 events in NA from earlier this year.
Do you remember anyone hyping Gengar EX last year? Because it topped in 19 tournaments and won 5 of those.
Or how about pure Gallade, which took 4 tournaments and topped 12? P Kyogre with 3 wins and 7 total tops?

Saying "only top tier decks win tournaments" is an extremely ignorant statement. Top tier decks CONSISTENTLY win tournaments, not exclusively. You can very much bring a budget deck to an event and top or win it, as data objectively proves with no room for disagreement.

Which is where the Shaymin problem comes in. Shaymin is a generic staple that goes in virtually every deck. I'm almost certain most if not all the decks on this list ran at least one. This means that, even if you want to bring your budget Magnezone deck, you'll probably need to shell out for Shaymins.

Card games without high-value generics don't run into this problem. If you want to take your budget deck to an event (with which you can win, as data shows), you don't need to drop $150 for a pair of Shaymin.

>>28833191

>People and stores/single sellers will seek after and open more RS for the chance of the money card, which is just more $$$ for TPC.

Actually Roaring Skies is no longer in print, so whatever RSK boxes people/store can find now are essentially leftovers and sold at hilariously inflated prices. I can't help not to laugh at anyone who spends $200+ CAD on a Roaring Skies booster box and they ended up getting nothing but jank EXs

>>28832232
Is this bait? What sort of retard tries to claim there's no luck in a TCG?

>>28833245
Im talking about MtG you dense fucker.

If you dont play a top tier deck in MtG you are pretty much guaranteed to lose.

>>28833282
Post aggregated tournament results like I did to back up your claims.

People said the same exact thing about Night March last format. You either played Night March or you lost, since it was a Tier 0 deck at the time.

I've actually yet to see any game where the results, given the right sample size, shows an objectively solved meta with no room for rogues.

>>28833268
>spent £50 on 17 packs of RS recently
>pulled FA Rayquaza EX, FA M Rayquaza EX and RA Shaymin EX
My luck with physical packs is unreal. It's a shame I always pull shit with digital packs.

Are people really fucking defending Shaymin?

>I love arbitrarily inflating price :) :) :)
You literally need Shaymin for every deck. It's like saying "I'll use Birch Observation over Sycamore"

>>28833339
>What do you mean I can't buy a house for $50?
>I need several thousand just for the down payment? What the fuck? How is this affordable?
>I can't believe people are defending house prices. I'm entitled to a $50 house.
>I don't care how much every other house costs. That doesn't justify the price of this house one bit!
>Everyone needs a house. I shouldn't have to pay more than $50 for something I need if I want to live in a house.
>When the fuck will they print a house tin?

>>28833339
The worst thing is, after coming from using Octillery for a while, I got a Shaymin and realised 1 wasn't actually that good.
>>28833375
What a totally garbage analogy. Are you retarded?

>>28833375
>When the fuck will they print a house tin?
Thanks for the laugh famalam

I personally think shaymin is overrated.

>>28833375
What the fuck is this? Are you mentally unstable?

This might be top 5 worst analogies I've seen on 4chan, and I browse /v/ a lot.

I'm happy to see the thread get bumped but we have this discussion every fucking thread.

>Shaymins are expensiveee :^((((
>TCG's are expensive
>no MTG is way cheaper
>no MTG is way more expensive
>just run octillery
>Shaymin tin when?

Jesus Christ. Either buy them or don't.

>>28833442
I wish there were more/better decks than Greninja Break that don't use Shaymeme. Or maybe a cheaper alternative that maybe only drew you back to 4-5?

>>28833442
People want to play competitively but don't want to spend much money to do it. It's a common complaint for pretty much anything similar, because it's not exactly exclusive to the TCG. Most hobbies are fucking expensive when you start to get to the more serious side of them.
That said, I still think Shaymin is a bit bullshit, but things could change, there's less effective alternatives, and it could be a lot worse.

desu senpaitachi, i want a new shaymin print too... but as a secret rare. i want to see what kind of price it'd reach.

Pokemon isn't supposed to be expensive, that's one of the appeals.

It is now expensive.

People are upset.

>>28833497
I wish everything was free and everyone could just have cards for free. But we can't. And greninja isn't good anyway.

>>28833536
You're right, which is my point. It's a common complaint. Too common. People need to either buy the card, or not buy the card and accept the consequences. When people, not necessarily you, bitch about the card it's not going to change anything.

But again I'm just satisfied with a not-ded thred

>>28833578
>Pokemon isn't supposed to be expensive, that's one of the appeals.

This was true last format and last format only. But that was the exception and not the rule.

>>28832378
bumparooni

Man, VS seekers just dropped from 12 to 6 dollars. Is it because of the Battle Decks?

>>28833969
probably. It's a good thing.

>>28834009
>good thing
Fuck no. I dont want poorfags contaminating my hobby.
I bet TPCi is going to reprint Shaymin now. Those fucking pricks.

>>28834029
ecks dee

>>28834029
>poorfag
I paid $16 for my VS Seeker playset and $100 for my Shaymin EX playset. That was only a year ago.

>>28834029

If you don't want to get triggered by poorfags in your card games, then maybe you should go play other card games like Yugioh, Magic, and Vanguard since those might be more up your valley

And this is from someone who has 8 Shaymemes

>>28834073
I bet they are regular art shaymins.

>>28834089
They were at the time. After flipping them for a profit when the two arts were only $5 difference in price I was able to pick up my playset of full arts which I've had since June 2015.

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>>28834106
You are alright.

>>28834089
the full art ones are ugly

>>28834130
So? Bugatti veyrons are ugly.

>>28834130
I disagree

>>28834130
Using regular art cards alongside full art cards triggers my autism. Since the rest of my deck is full arts I have no choice.

>>28834183
I just use whichever is neater looking.

Like pretty much all the Volcanion FA look like utter shit but the RA looks pretty good.

Have any of you guys actually run into someone playing karen yet?

>>28834335
I haven't but I have the card code and am considering running it in a few of my decks, namely any deck that was previously running sacred ash. Only Garchomp right now.

Threadposters, opinions on which meta decks should run Karen?
Just Mega-Gard?

Might run her in my Greninja Break deck, exact same reason.
Sacred Ash was just so good.

Pulled my second Shaymin EX IRL. None so far in the online tcg. Should I just sell both to buy more roaring skies exclusively?

>>28834366
M Garde, RR and M Ray in standard.

Every deck in Expanded.

>>28834399
>Go to Gamestop with a pocket scale
>Weight RS packs
>buy heaviest packs
>Get FA Shaymin and SR VS Seeker
That's what I did and worked great.

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>>28834442
That sounds like a really long process. What's the lowest gram scale do I need? 0.01g-100g fine?

>>28834399
I'll never understand this supremely retarded mentality.
>I got the best card in the set
>now I'm going to sell the best card in the set to buy more of the set
>oh I didn't get the best card in the set anymore, fuck I wasted money because buying packs is retarded

>>28834483
0.01 should work just fine.
I did this 6 months ago mind you. I checked Gamestop.com to see which had some RS boosters in stock.
Luckily I live somehwat close to the ghetto (luckily yeah right) so this gamestop had a bunch of RS, like 25 or 30. I asked the clerk to bring them out, I weighted them (they were ok with this, I asked before doing so) and bought the 6 heaviest packs. I got 3 holos, 1 regular rare, 1 sr vs seeker and 1 full art shaymin. I couldn't fucking believe it.
Even when weighting you still need some luck.

>>28834524
>pull 10 weighed packs
>only holos and 1 latios ex

>>28834504
>No one around me plays the TCG for miles
>No card store for miles
>I only play Online
>I still keep a collection, for personal want, I dont need excess
Hot damn you're stupid

>>28834556
Then buy singles and don't waste money on sealed product. RNG is never the correct option.

>>28834556
sell the extra shaymeme and buy a bunch of competitive TCGO decks

>>28834556
edge

>>28834465
fug

>be in tournament
>finish after a long match
>last person to go literally goes and plays their match to maximum amount

Friggin madmen who can manage to run a tourney match to the full duration.

>>28833580
I didn't say shit about free cards..

How much should I be offering for a jolteon ex?

>>28835705
~10 packs

>>28835522
No, but if you're going to wish for decks that don't use Shaymin or cheaper alternatives to Shaymin you might as well wish for free cards so you could just get Shaymin.

If there were decks that didn't run Shaymin, Shaymin would be much cheaper. It's really expensive because every deck runs it. Greninja BREAK got away with it because it could consistently snag Octillery with its many Dive Balls, and because the deck was just going to be slow no matter what.

Also, speaking of, Octillery is our "cheaper alternative that maybe only drew you back to 4-5."

>>28835748
Touché anon, you're kinda twisting my words but you got your point across

>open 10 generations packs
>5 gardevoir ex 2 blastoise ex flareon ex and Mgardevoir ex

I haven't seen the typical Rayquaza EX deck, but could it work with Manaphy, and 2 Shaymin EX? Does it need a non-EX attacker?
I have 4 Rayquaza EX, and 3 M Rayquaza EX, that I got from the ladder and locked packs. Just wondering if I could make it work with what I have.

>>28832610
>prize multiple attackers
Why is your deck unable to fetch them through secondary attackers? Why do you have enough non-essential basic pokemon for your first hand to be unable to catch those attackers before prizes are decided
>prize multiple energies
>Falling for the "You only need six energies :^)" meme
Your deck needs enough energy to run it's key attack PLUS those six.
>prize multiple spirit links
Why is your deck unable to get around ONE extra turn of play? I guess it sucks that much, huh?
>prize multiple Shaymin
Why is your search engine so weak, you can only fix your hand with shaymin?
>prize Hoopa
>His deck REALLY sucks at searching for shit, only one ONE card will save him
Hoopa and Shaymin are SUPPORT cards for your primary strategy, not ESSENTIAL cards for it. If your deck can't operate without them, then I have bad news for your deck: It's inconsistent.
>prize draw supporters
>He only has six draw supporters in his deck
You should always have 8+ depending on the deck. They WILL fix your hand when they show up, so they are rarely dead draws.
>prize stadium
>His deck can't win without his stadium
I guess seeing delinquent must really trigger you, as well. Get ready to lose a lot of games to it, I guess.

I'll give you the other ones, but these are all about deck structure and can be solved entirely through proper redundancies and deck building.

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>>28836210
>Free tutor every fucking turn
If it is, I'll run 4 in every deck ever.

>>28836210
>>28836265
Goodbye Shaymeme

>>28836210
Its obviously fake anon...

>>28836210
Shouldn't it have 'Alolan' or something?

>>28836203
Most meta decks run 3-4 main attackers anon.

Most decks run 8-10. That doesn't change that if you only have 2-4 energy in your deck you will likely be starved for energy and thus lose.

Games can be lost by one skipped turn or won by one critical turn. Try again.

Ultra Ball into Shaymin is often important.

Hoopa and Shaymin add consistency, the issue is prized they make it a luckfest of drawing into them.

No argument for stadium, they're optional outside of RR and MegaRay.

>>28836203
>You should always have 8+ depending on the deck
You really are that stupid, huh?

>>28836490
>Most meta decks run 3-4 main attackers anon.
Which means he shouldn't have an issue with an attacker being prized
>Most decks run 8-10. That doesn't change that if you only have 2-4 energy in your deck you will likely be starved for energy and thus lose
Search engine. I've always had every energy I've needed ever since I started running key attack+6. Since it is rare that you will have six prized, you often have enough in your deck to run into them while fapping trainers.
>Games can be lost by one skipped turn or won by one critical turn.
Good decks have more than one way to gain that extra turn or delay the opponent on a key moment. Not saying that it will never happen, but it should take more than a few links in your prizes for the stars to align that way.
>Ultra Ball into Shaymin is often important.
It shouldn't be important enough for you to lose the game because of it.
>Hoopa and Shaymin add consistency, the issue is prized they make it a luckfest of drawing into them.
You should have a fairly consistent deck without them. Consistent enough that it can run with them prized. You said it, they should ADD consistency, not be the deck's sole way to fetch cards needed. Because then, they are not adding any consistency at all, they become essential cards for your deck to run at all that will kill yuou when they are prized. A deck that can't get out of one not having one card available is the opposite of a consistent deck.

My argument is that a well built deck should, fairly consistently, be capable to get out of the situations he posted instead of immediately losing to any of them. Which means that it is really related to how the deck is built as opposed to pure luck.

>>28836570
What? Do you run 2 sycamories and 2 Ns with no other draw power? If so, you deserve them prized.

>>28836210
Fake or not, that's pretty cool and stuff like that might become reality soon, can't wait for the GX's.

>>28836663
You're just trolling or an idiot at this point.

I'm done lmao.

>>28836739
Stay bad, friend.

>>28836714
Yeah honestly we need more busted ex in this format

>>28836399

Yep, Alolan Pokemon would have "Alolan" in their names.

>http://www.pokebeach.com/2016/09/alolan-meowth-and-grubbin-collection-sun-moon

>>28836884
Aaand there goes my hype

>>28836663
>Do you run 2 sycamories and 2 Ns with no other draw power?
Yup, you're retarded.

>>28836928
Well it is one of the most broken cards I've ever seen.
Come on, a free computer search every turn is game breaking.

>>28836942
The point is that you'd need a very shitty deck for "my draw cards are prized!" to lose you the game. Since no amount of bad luck will literally prize your entire search engine which should be composed of a lot more than 6 cards. Because if it can be prized away, then it is a shitty deck and nothing to do with luck.

I refer you to the original argument which was "bad luck will have your draw power prized and you'll lose the game with no way to fix it!". Which implies a really bad deck as opposed to bad luck.

Why does this game use so much ram?

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>want to try this game again after 7 years
>get the online client
>really polished, especially compared to others
>ok lets see where the meta is
>I have to spend hundreds on a few shaymin
>for every single deck
>every
>single
>deck
Ummmm..... that's not healthy at all. When does this shit rotate out so I can actually play?

>>28837086
Yeah, Shaymin is a big problem for new players. There was talk about a reprint at some point, but that was 6 months ago and so far nothing has come. Shaymin is set to be in the next rotation, but since one just happened it could be over a year till it is gone.


Still, the Pokemon TCG is still easier to make a winning deck compared to most other games.

>>28837005
You're specifically here going on about how someone is bad if their searchable shaymin is prized but in the same breath, bad if they're not relying on draw supporters?

Not every deck in the game can be the best deck in the game with built in draw/search power like night march was. Some decks can only run a certain number of some cards because they're not shilled by TPCi

>>28837154
>Still, the Pokemon TCG is still easier to make a winning deck compared to most other games.
Lmao

>>28837086

That's only true for the physical card game and ONLY if you have to have every deck 100% complete.

>When does this shit rotate out so I can actually play?

Next year.

>Ummmm..... that's not healthy at all.

Blame TPCi's inability to reprint it and stick it into a tin.

>>28837172
Lmao

>>28837005
Most people only play 4-7 draw supporters, proportional to the number of Shaymins in the deck. You could prize all or most of your draw supporters. Then you lose. If you maximize your draw supporters with 4 N 4 Sycamore 4 Shaymin you'll end up losing anyway because your deck is too cloggy.

>>28837155
You should not over rely on one card. If your shaymin is prized, there should be something else in your deck that can help you get the cards you need. If the other something is prized, you would then have the shaymin available. It's about redundancy.

But, yeah, I agree that not every deck will have all the support they need in print. However, in those cases, it still is deck composition at work rather than pure luck that are making your prized cards lose you the game. It's just that the deck you're running doesn't have the option for good composition, for whatever reason.

>>28837154
>>28837181
Prints and reprints don't happen overnight keep in mind.

Companies plan sets a year or more in advance. If they didn't know about the problem until after Worlds (assuming they're really out-of-touch) then don't expect it for a little while if at all since it's out of print right now.

Has TPC even done anything like that before?

>>28837086
If you played seven years ago, you should be familiar with LuxChomp, so you should remember how expensive cards in this game can be.

>>28837280

Claydol and Uxie comes comes to mind, they were made into League promos.

Darkrai-EX DEX, Mewtwo-EX NXD, and Rayquaza-EX DRX are also contenders but they had promos to help them out.

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>>28837172
>this guy again

I had hoped you were gone for good.

>>28837280
Most expensive cards in this game got reprinted within the year. Shaymin EX is an anomaly having not had a single reprint in over a year.

>>28837420
I hope it never is. I just bought my playset and I don't want to lose money

>>28837432
Well, that's tough titties because this is a card game and like all card games the secondary market is going to be volatile no matter what. A reprint would be better for the community at large. That's why I bought full arts. They'll go down in value but not as much as the regular arts, so they're a better investment. I also bought them a year ago when they were $50/each so I can't be too butthurt.

>>28837432
>I just bought my playset and I don't want to lose money.
>TPCi giving a shit about the secondary market.

If that were the case then they wouldn't have included two VS Seekers in the Keldeo VS Rayquaza Battle Arena deck.

>>28837496
>tfw I bought the last one at my walmart
niggas scooped them up quick

>>28837508

And now they're probably kicking themselves due to the price drop.

New vs. rewards soon, right?

>>28837535
It's always a good day when scalpers lose money

>>28837535
Anyone dumb enough to buy these things exclusively for profit and not sell the contents within the first few days deserves to lose money.

>>28837568
I believe this current reward ladders expires in about an hour or so, so a new should be up by tomorrow or during the weekend.

>>28837535
>>28837569
scalping is so risky

i want to see the neckbeard who walks out of walmart with 5 fucking duel decks

>>28837568
52 min!

>>28837595
Hopefully it's a Shaymeme ladder

>>28837568
They will be up in 45 minutes.

The rewards will be Keldeo-EX and Colress FA.

Deluge Blastoise will be the line of 3.

>>28837704
>non standard old crap

Yawn. I dread those ladders

>>28837728
They usually do that.
Card rewards for the people that play expanded and pack rewards for the people that play standard.

>>28837728

Then blame the 20th Anniversary boxes, most of the ladders have been themed after them.

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On the verge of closing out a Mewtwo ex deck. What trainers?

>>28837943
NEVER PLAY 4 MEGAS
YOU DONT HAVE LYSANDRES
YOU DONT NEED 2 SPECIAL CHARGE
YOU DONT NEED 2 PARALLEL CITY
YOU NEED 3 SHRINES OF MEMORIES
YOU DONT NEED POKEMON CENTER LADY
YOU ONLY NEED 6 OR 7 BASIC ENERGY
ALWAYS PLAY 4 SYCAMORE
ALWAYS PLAY 4 ULTRA BALL

>>28837998
If only Mewtwo poster was on.

>>28838074
Do you want me to post it again?

>>28837998
>YOU DONT NEED POKEMON CENTER LADY
I need to play a status effect deck, seems like everyone and their moms would lose to it, since they have no way to stop it.

>>28838128
There is no good status effect deck in the format, thats why no one uses PCL.

The only deck where I use PCL is Mega Scizor since you cant 1HKO and always trade off 2HKOs. PCL turns their 2HKOs into 3HKOs giving you the advantage.

but why

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Opinions on deck friends?

I've added Karen now but not sure what else I wanna remove or add.

>>28837086
You only need one and can use it in every other deck you make.

>>28838377
new one start? time for versus!

>>28838491
No you need a set.

And the keyword is NEED. I shouldn't NEED any card in a TCG.

>>28838540
>I shouldn't NEED any card in a TCG.
How do you play then?

>>28837361

At least with that format there were other viable decks and Luxray GL Lv. X wasn't a "generic staple that can be used in the majority of the decks" unlike Uxie and Claydol were.

>>28837382

>Rayquaza EX

Basically the announcement of the tins around the time Dragon Exalted was released basically kept the price of that card in check

>>28838540

You would need a minimum of 2, 4 is only required for "meme" decks like Mega Rayquaza

So how did the whole Rayquaza = Fug start anyway?

>>28838540
No, you don't NEED them.

>>28838377
i think ill actually grind for it this time

>>28838566
xD nice one dude

>>28838619
Yes you do. Prove me wrong.

>>28838668
Because after Uxie and Claydol rotated and before ROS came out, decks ran fine with 4 Juniper and 4 N.

>>28838729
Also, Octillery exists.

Should I take out my 2 octillery from my Greninja Break deck and put in 2 Shaymin?

>>28838668
You can play without Shaymin if you want, its not mandatory.

>>28838763
Running Octillery in your deck is already questionable, running Shaymin is just objectively bad.

The point of the deck is you force them to take 6 mons to try to beat you and you can usually take prizes easier due to your Greninja breaks.

Get a Karen and probably accept Greninja break is not good in current standard without ways to remove tools off garbodor or ways to OHKO the garbo.

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>>28838668
>prove me wrong
Here you go fuccboi, this year's world champ deck master's division (1st place)
Now get the fuck outta here

>>28839028
Looking at it, audino looks like such a weak card.
>Something like 100 damage for three energy
>Megas into 110-160 for three energy
>Maybe snipes for 50
>Not even enough to one shot most exs
How did it win anything?

>>28838377
Yes but what the fuck is that Slowbro?

>>28839129
It fucks over night march.

It's all about playing according to the meta.

>>28839138
garbage card. It exists because filler.

>>28839129
>snipes for 50
>one shot most exes

You would take note of what its competition was.

>>28839129
Probably he only faced Night March the entire tournament, because that shit doesn't beat any other deck.

>>28839198
It's a goddamn shame the Greninja player bricked like a faggot and we didn't get a chance to see an actual good game. Just like last year.

>>28839198
I thought night march was the best deck in the game

>>28839198
That was worlds anon, he won worlds with audino meme.

Pls.

>>28839028
>Shaymin EX
Uhh. are you fucking retarded?

>>28839221
It was the best deck in the 2015-16 season by sheer number of wins alone. And it did top Masters division twice, Seniors division thrice, and Juniors division once. But it was up against decks designed entirely to beat it, so it's not surprising it couldn't edge out a victory.

>>28838377
how long does this last?

>>28839223
You say that as if rogue decks have never won major tournaments in the past. It happens even in mtg.

>N on ladder

Ah finally, at long last, the return of Latios/Forretress.

>Please wait while your opponent recovers from his heart attack

>no sleeping emoticon

How else am I supposed to tell these idiots to stop taking a minute to make one click?

>>28839338
it is a mystery.

>Posted about latias scam
>People are already undercutting the guy
Kek

>>28839245
>dude says you NEED a SET (4) of shaymin ex
>I show that someone who won worlds used (2)
Uhh, are YOU retarded?

Is there any reason I would want locked promo dittos who have no special art or anything and are ugly as fuck?

>>28839563
There are so little options in the chat now that its not even funny, really disappointed with the chat atm.

>>28839836
I mean I never used chat to begin with unless someone said something first.

But this is truly depressingly bad.
In fact, seeing canned sarcastic chat makes me more buttmad than a retard just going "u suk".

>>28839737
>oh it'd be fine if hitler only killed 3 million jews :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

>>28839935
Hitler was fine with just 6 million. Should've finished the job though.

>>28839935
Wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with that hot analogy

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>Enter tournament
>connection starts failing immediately

>>28839985
Not that Anon but the original argument was "Shaymin is a necessity and it shouldn't be." A couple of Anons proved it isn't necessary but the original Anon never replied.

>>28840154
Thank you for replying for me, I was tired of arguing with morons.

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>tfw want to edit a deck but don't want to lose old deck box

The pure white deck box is so perfect, why I'm forced to change it.

Mgarde decks are shit im glad i unpacked all these cards

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stolen from reddit, not sure I've ever seen a misprint of a full art with no texture. my first assumption was that this was fake, but it's literally a perfect reproduction without the texture. what do you nerds think?

VGW-ADHP-5PG-B4M - Free Roaring Skies pack

>>28840420
fuck off

>>28840420

It's pretty uncommon, but it does happen. I know that Colress had a textureless print.

>my first assumption was that this was fake.

If it was fake there would be more issues than just the lack of texture.

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>>28840508
The colress thing was completely different though, this card is completely missing texture. Pretty much a one of a kind

pic is the whole card

>>28840420
>>28840593
cool as fuck if it's a real card, the OP is convinced it's fake though so he'll probably toss it or try and send it back.

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>>28840452
>>28840452

>>28840593

Another issue is thickness, fake cards tend to be thicker than genuine cards.

>>28840634
HOLY SHIT THAT SWELLOW

>>28840711
Well most fake full arts I've seen have a really small border because they can't get the runoff art print meant for miscuts, which this card has all of. I'm now pretty convinced it's a real card, time to convince him to sell it to me B)

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Before I completely forget, here's the packs I opened for the generations packs some anon gave me yesterday.

I forgot to open them yesterday, sorry.
First is wew, rapidashes.

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>>28841572
Second pack is a lot better, I've actually never gotten two EX in one pack.

Neither is meta though.

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>>28841604
This one is pretty bad.

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>>28841632
And last but not least...

Another fucking Sylveon but this one is also FA Sylveon. Holy fuck, is this game trying to tell me to make a meme sylveon deck?


Anyway, here you go anon that gave me the Generations packs. I know you said you're quitting but I hope you come back some day. :(

>>28841604

Getting two EXs in Generations/Legendary Treasures isn't common but not impossible, I opened packs with 2 EXs a few times but I still haven't opened Jolteon after all those months

>Keep watching people opened BREAKs and EXs from the same pack in TCG Generals
>Never happened to me despite I opened enough packs to drown myself in cards IRL
>Bought a Zygarde Collection since I already had the Xerneas and Yveltal so I might as well complete the trio
>Opened a Marowak BREAK and Blue (aka lesser) Mewtwo EX Full Art in one of the Breakthrough packs

orz

>another full art N for my decks

absolutely based

>opponent trying to stall on his last Mon.
>lysandre's out a random Cobalion from my bench to get away from my M Scizor
>gets a heads on his cointoss and paralyzes
>Ninja boy the Cobalion with 70 damage on it into a Trubish that dies instantly
>put the Scizor back out and oneshot him

Holy shit Ninja is fun

>>28842116
>using Ninja Boy in a Mega deck

shitters are so easy to spot

>>28842262
Nice meme

>shill stream here
>get 20+ viewers

Easy

>>28842449
link

>>28842449
Nah famalam, your stream is depressing with that old music

>>28842733

new