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Why are people so excited for a game that's literally raping

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Why are people so excited for a game that's literally raping Hawaiian culture?
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It's like they didn't even think about like the pillaging of the continent of Hawaii.
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I'm excited about raping your mother's culture
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>>28803482
Is this supposed to be bait? I'm just really tired and confused and this feels like bait.
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If you tell then he creators of the game are Japanese they'll probably shut up. They only seem to care when white males do something
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>>28803482
I don't like this
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>>28803482
What's an american indian?
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>>28803482
>intense fetishization
it's a children's game

Also it was okay when it happened to France?
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>>28803482
There is literally nothing wrong with exploring cultures outside of the one you are born in.
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Oh god. Please tell me this is some obscure faggot no one knows or cares about. Please. I don't need Pokemon to devolve into social justice bullshit too. no one fucking cared about XY being a bunch of fucking french stereotypes.
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>>28803482
>make a game which doesn't have minorities
>"MINORITY ERASURE WHY ARE YOU SUCH A HITLER"
>make a game which portrays minorities in a fair, positive light
>"MINORITY FETISHISATION IS DISGUSTING YOU FUCKO"

Why do we listen to these people again?
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>>28803482
I don't live in hawaii
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Pokemon already raped Their own culture three times, America twice/three times, and France once.

Now it's your turn you fucking sensitive baby.
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>>28803552
Someone whose family came from India to America
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>>28803511
My mom's German, they raped their own culture plenty, so get raping boy because you've got a half century of raping to catch up with.

Hope you're some kind of cultural tentacle monster.
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>>28803555
Trips of truth
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>>28803560
Seems like a nobody. They got a bone to chew on with the transgender karate guy NPC anyway.
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It's not fetishization or raping, it's taking a culture, expanding it, and giving it the Pokemon twist.

No one said anything about Japanese, continental American, or French culture being 'appropriated' when their respective games came out, so no one has amy right to start now unless GF fucks up horribly.
THEN Hawaiian and Polynesian people can complain.

Until then, take your (You)s and fucking leave.
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>>28803482
It wouldn't be the first time the Japanese rape something in Hawaii
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>>28803560
It is.
>>28803561
>5 notes.
>"Congtraz, you r 4chin meme naw."
We don't.
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>>28803561
Because if you disagree with them they scream buzzwords like misogynist and racist at you and I feel like a lot of normies are just so afraid of being labeled that way that they just go along with it.
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>>28803511
>implying a fuccboi such as yourself would have the strength to rape an adult
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>>28803609
OP's image is a literally who
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>>28803482
You know what's funny about "cultural appropriation"?

Nobody born in the culture that's being "appropriated" ever complains about it. It's always 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants that are mostly absorbed into American culture but are still desperately clinging on to the native culture of their grandparents, to the point where they get irrationally angry if they see anyone doing anything from that culture, like they don't deserve it or something.

People actually from that culture, however, don't care. Why? Because they see their own culture as just normal. If an actual Jamaican, for example, sees someone with dreadlocks, they aren't going to think "STOP APPROPRIATING ME REEEEEE", they're just going to think that person has a normal hairstyle.
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>>28803583
>replying to something an oversensitive faggot wrote

Kid needs a good asswhooping, fucking SJW kids aren't used to anything anymore
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>>28803587
>diamond head
>pearl harbor
Could mozart still be alive
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>>28803482
What is this "Hawaii" you speak of? The games are supposed to be set in Alola.
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>>28803555
>Also it was okay when it happened to France?

French people were never an oppressed minority.
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>>28803552
Pretty sure they mean native american
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>>28803624
They usually think it's pretty cool too, and they help foreigners out with learning about the culture!
The world is neat if you can bypass the screaming white people
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>>28803482
I bet the kid that wrote this is white.
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>>28803572
Anon please, that's an Indian american. We don't refer to African Americans as American Africans
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>>28803637
White French people weren't, yes. French people of color are, and there's plenty French people of color. Miss me with that bullshit
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>>28803624
>Literally nothing from my Dad's culture is worth preserving or usable in the west.
Feels good man
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It's astounding how people don't know the proper use of the word 'literally'.
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>>28803624
>You know what's funny about "cultural appropriation"?
>Nobody born in the culture that's being "appropriated" ever complains about it.

Factually untrue.

http://dgrnewsservice.org/civilization/colonialism/consuming-hawai%CA%BBi-anne-keala-kelly-appropriation-hawaiian-culture/
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>>28803614
Come on over. Let's find out.
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>>28803636
Oh, Hawaii is just one big pile of bullshit, like Indian Elephants.
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>>28803655
Who even fucking cares, you live in America, have an American passport so you're American. You live in India, with an Indian passport, you're Indian.
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>>28803660
Literally is figuratively a word that is used
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How is it fetishization ? The hawaian characters are basically just there.
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>>28803643
100% guaranteed.

Whenever someone complains about "cultural appropriation", it's literally never coming from someone who is actually that ethnicity.

I'm a Hawaiifag, and everyone I've talked to is excited for Alola.
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>>28803681
I'm sorry you can't sense a hint of sarcasm you butthurt fuck
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>>28803533
Asians are like honorary white people in sjw eyes. They actually work and are successful meaning they have privilage
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>>28803482
>deeply troubled
>intense fetishization
This is why we need enforced conscription to the army. What these kids call deeply troubled....
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>>28803637
The French were always known to surrender, they are weak, being weak is a minority. :^)
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>>28803664
But that's the thing though.

All native Hawaiians are the descendants of American immigrants. Not willful or anything, but immigrants nonetheless.
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>>28803664
>Owen Lloyd
Sure is traditional Hawaiian name here.
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>>28803723
Asians are always ignored because Asians don't give a fuck. It's always whites vs. black, latino and middle eastern communities.
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>>28803664
What? Factually untrue statements, especially those pertaining to race and or culture, on 4chan? Of all places?
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>>28803664
Nobody named Owen Lloyd is a native Hawaiian.
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I'd bet a 20 that that's a haole. People here are either pretty excited or don't care. I'm sure there are some Hawaiians out their getting pissy, but nobody likes them when they go SJW overboard, not even the other Hawaiians. They're probably Samoan and not Hawaiian. Not even the nice Samoans either.
That being said, I was worried it'd Alola would just be used as a beach episode and ignore all the cool stuff about Hawaii, but they really are going in with the ecology and history references. I'm just going to say that everyone I know, me included is surprisingly happy with it. Small sample size aside. Most were just surprised it was Hawaii in the first place.
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>>28803693
GF is exploiting Hawaiian culture for their own gains without highlighting problems faced by ethical Hawaiians today.
That's cultural appropriation, and that's racism.
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>>28803736
Disagree. A lot of them are from Polynesian, Pacific and Asian descent. I am for example.

And that SJW guy needs to shut the fuck up cause I'm actually excited my culture is going to be represented in the Pokemon universe. It's fucking cool, white people always gotta ruin shit.
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>>28803759
>Not even the nice Samoans either.
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>>28803664
>owen lloyd

Either way, let me correct the statement.
Only pasty dyed hair white girls, hapas and halfies care about culture appropriation.
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>>28803766
Pokémon is generally supposed to be lighthearted my man

also nice job ignoring the unethical Hawaiians
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>>28803766
You better be joking. This has to be a shitpost.

How the fuck are you gonna highlight problems in a fucking kids game? KIDS GAME

Also it's not Hawaii it's Alola. In Alola there's fucking Ultra Beasts flying around they don't have time to worry about all that BS.
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>>28803482
Honestly Sun and Moon are handling Hawaiian culture a hell of a lot more respectfully than most American productions. And it's a Japanese game, and the Japanese never oppressed Hawaiians, so the whole "cultural appropriation" slant doesn't fly as it's not contributing to an ongoing problem. Not to mention the huge Japanese American presence in Hawaii...... and the fact that Alola is supposed to be an alternate version of Hawaii...

Basically it sounds like someone looking for trouble where there is none, like the people shitting their pants over San Fransokyo in Big Hero 6. If this is "cultural appropriation" in a way that matters, then akk Americans and Japanese people as a whole are fucking monsters. Which obviously, they aren't.
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>>28803766
>No fun allowed

We get it. The real world fucking sucks and we all deserve to die a painful death. God forbid Hitler wasn't in Pokemon already.
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>>28803766
Kalos didn't have many people in the streets starving and execution of people that were seen as enemies of the Revolution.
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>>28803737
>>28803758
>>28803792
I love how you idiots clearly didn't read the article and just looked at the reporter's name. Look at who he interviewed for the article and what they said regarding Hawaiian cultural appropriation.
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>>28803766
>highlighting problems faced by ethical Hawaiians

So should Unova have mentioned 9/11 or people getting shot by police? Should Kalos have mentioned terrorist attacks by muslims?
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>>28803817
>I was upset because of inaccurate depictions of my people in the media which was not accurate to how it works to a person who understands the culture
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>>28803833
Silly, Western Europeans and Americans can't be culturally appropriated, they're priveleged :)
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>>28803604
>>28803581
Thank you. I've seen too many things I like get wrapped in this bullshit. Pokemon was one of the few things left. All it takes is one person that anybody gives a shit about it to mention it and the fire is fucking started.
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>>28803858
The fire rises.
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>>28803482
I want to Game Freak to come here and rape my country for a new Pokemon game.
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>>28803852
Yeah apparently some 3rd world cesspool countries in Africa have more culture than Italy, Spain, Greece, France, Austria, Russia etc. those countries haven't contributed anything culture-wise. Just remember that everytime you eat a pizza, spaghetti or lasagna, you're appropriating Italian culture.
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>>28803621
wtf I hate hitmonlee now
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>>28803798
I think it helps that for as long as Japan knew Hawaii, they never actually disliked it unlike other places. This is reflected in gamefreaks portrayal since they favor the Japanese home market. There was Pear Harbor, but they at least had the decency to only target the harbor dick move though it was. Funny thing they tell you at the museum is that the only damage to the city came from artillery shells missing the planes and landing in the city.
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>>28803482
Third world whining from sjws.
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>>28803896
Also remember that every time you eat food, and possibly have left overs, there someone out there who is starving to death. :^)
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>>28803482
>Just wondering, thanks
Seems a little passive aggressive.
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>>28803952
Thats cool.
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>>28803977
All SJWs scream murder when something they don't have anything to do with gets appropriated but they're all rude as fuck, autistic and don't have manners. I blame the parents.
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>>28804001
They got autism.
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>>28803482
>Implying we haven't done the same with Japanese culture the last 35 years
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>>28804001
I just meant they could've ended at the question mark. But had to add that snippet at the end. Seems childish to me is all.
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>>28804001
I swear if parents these days would still give their kids a good ol' assbeating from time to time none of this would have happened.
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>>28803482
>raping
Please put a trigger warning on top of the post before using words that can trigger my PTSD. Thanks :)
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>>28803774
Don't worry, I'll be offended on your behalf :^)
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>>28803482
Just like how having white people in ur game is the same for European culture
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>>28804046
That's actually proven to make these things worse.

What needs to happen are parents being more disciplinarian.
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>>28803659
So your dad is Muslim?
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>>28804069
>implying assbeatings can't be disciplinary
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>>28804076
nope
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>>28803642
>The world is neat if you can bypass the screaming white people
underrated post
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>>28804076
Either that or Russian
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"Cultural appropriation" is the biggest load of shit. It's literally racism masquerading as anti-racism.
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>>28803482
Pokeman isn't made by white people, so it's okay.
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isn't Hawaii 70% Asain anyways?
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>>28803482
>improper use of literally
>"m-muh cultural appropriation!"

kill yourself or go back to tumblr
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>>28804127
I bet the guy has never even left his home state. Never even been to Hawaii. Typical SWJ behavior feeling offended for people you've never met from a place you've never even visited.
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>>28803482
>Why are people so excited for a game that's literally raping Hawaiian culture?
Same reason most of our population is addicted to sex. The cultural bar was lowered and people think it raises your status. It's pretty much because the Human species is dumb as all fuck.
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>>28803482
OMG do you guys have to complain about everything
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>>28803774
No, what I'm saying is anyone who is in the place to complain about the usage of native Hawaiian culture is from a place that's been part of America since 1898, longer than anyone's been alive. They have the same breed of bitterness against the American melting pot that some descendants of immigrants have, because they basically are.
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>>28803902
Yeah, Japan seems to really love Hawaii. I think a lot of it comes from Hawaiian folk religions having a lot of similarities with Shinto, so they can identify with each other more easily.

And I knew the Japanese only targeted military targets during Pearl Harbor but I never heard about the artillery shells accidental friendly fire, pfftahaha
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>28804196
>OMG
You ain't getting this (You) that easily
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>>28803482
>fetichization
>raping hawaian culture

please, i'm begging you to kill yourself and help the world to become a better place
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>>28803766
>That's cultural appropriation, and that's racism.
Boo fucking hoo.
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Really makes you think huh? Welp looks like I'm a #digidestined now.
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>>28804215
It's just whining.
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>>28804181
>addicted to sex
>actually believing that exists
It's just a scapegoat for guys who cheat on their fat wives, my dude. If they were addicted to sex they'd be fucking stray cats and shit just to get off.
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>>28804269
Yeah, pretty much.
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>>28804127
Yes it is, but people tend to like the Hawaiian stuff around here. It's good for the environment and creates a nice cultural background. Everything else is mixed in as well, but I'd say it's a pretty good mix. There aren't really any big tensions.
I wasn't even aware we had this many hispanics. I guess that the Puerto Rican's from the plantation days blended in so well that nobody cared That or they're counting the sheer weight of the Coqui frogs in Hilo as Hispanics.
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>>28803858
>implying that's not what happened to Jynx
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>>28804291
Literally retarded the post
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>>28804427
>alcoholics will drink rubbing alcohol
>drug addicts will destroy themselves finding shit to get high with
>gambling addicts will lose everything thet own through logical fallacies
>sex addicts jerk off too much

Nice """""""""""addiction"""""""""""""". Can't wait til those degenerates are lashed to a cross.
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>>28803482
Because who seriously gives a shit?
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>>28804507
Isn't sex addiction called nymphomania?
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>>28804224
Not just that, they were both trying to modernize before they got colonized at the same time, so Hawaii was basically their only I'd say equal/ true ally for a good while. The monarchies agreed to treat their respective citizens the same as their own and even offered to intermarry during the period. That is extremely rare at the time, especially with the Japanese and their usual dislike of foreigners and the Japanese in turn were usually second class workers.
Japan was also the only country to protest, send warships, and offer government in exile to the monarchy after the takeover. Japan kinda went war crazy after the incident. They probably thought they needed to become a colonial power or they'd be next, and after ww2, Hawaii was a major part for establishing relations again since the Japanese Hawaiian war vets who fought in Germany got highly decorated and wanted to help.
They've just helped each other a lot over the years.
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>>28803482
>literally raping Hawaiian culture
>literally

This is literally bait
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>>28803482
>Hawaii based region
>space themed legendaries
Is GF only doing this to ridicule native Hawaiians? Don't they know about the massive protests against NASA building observatories on top of Mouna Kea, which is holy ground? This blatant disrespect.
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>>28803637
>what was hundred years war
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>>28804507
Rape, sleeping around, cheating. Obvious examples. Others are porn, sex references in media, and clothing. Sex is so common place now that it's lost its meaning. People like you, who are either crazy or stupid, are the reason everyone is so saturated by sex and think it's okay. "Oh it's not an addiction" which is the first thing people say when they don't want to give it up. I'm in no way saying don't have sex. I'm saying stop thinking about it every god damn hour. Your all just little whores
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>>28804660
You're*
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>>28804660
Didn't studies prove men think about sex or something sexual every like 10 seconds?
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>>28803482
What culture? All native Americans and Hawaiians do is throw around sticks and get angry at white people.
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When I went to Hawaii a couple of hot surfer guys helped me with my desire to have a 4-some. Trio Penetration, I didn't get pregnant like I wanted but they tied me down, fucked me hard, and didn't let me up at all, even when I screamed in pain from being stretched out.

After all the tears and psuedo rape I can say the Hawaiian men are ruthless when they want to cum and I'd love to do it again. I'd never let my husband know, especially since I long for my kids to be Hawaiian and instead I get oreoes.

I really wish it would of been White/Hawaiian, but that's okay. I can deal with what I've got and been given. I'll never forget the sex. And Pokemon Sun and Moon will always let me relive that sexual experience of a life time plus the best honeymoon I've ever had.

Anyway..

Who cares about raping Hawaiian culture?
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>>28804590
Hawaiians have the whole navigated using the stars to the most isolated archipelago in the world thing, so that's a plus, but the TMT debacle was a lot of things. UH usually screwing things up somehow was basically a given, so everyone was skeptical from the start. They were kind of in a rush due to not wanting to lose the contract to Chile, but people wanted more studies done, since there are animals restricted to the cinder cone area. The Hawaiian protestors kinda overblew the whole sacred mountain part and that brought in what I can only describe as /pol/tards and science before all autists who in turn brought in the SJW's. In short, it was a cluster fuck that's currently in court deadlock with most people in Hawaii who weren't college students, contractors, or overweight Samoans wanting everyone to shut up and find a reasonable solution. That being said, there were some Hawaiians who also thought that the new observatory was great for the culture, since stargazing and colonizing into the unknown were integral to native culture.
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>>28803561
WHERE'S KING KNIGHT'S CAMPAIGN
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>>28803664
You know what?
If you're not from Roman empire, you can't use word factually, because it's vile appropriation of Roman culture, you insensitive dipshit.
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>tfw game freak will never set a pokémon game in my culture because we're not relevant

It hurts famalam.
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>>28803503
Nice meme
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>intense fetishization

more like lighthearted borrowing of some icons of a traditional culture for mostly aesthetic purposes. Pokemon doesn't even explore the themes of culture and nationhood deeply enough to be participating in 'fetishization'. Appropriation maybe, but portrayals are never really in a negative light simply because pokemon is an upbeat franchise aimed at children and manchildren in general.
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>>28803503
This is a good meme
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>>28803555
I fetishize chicken-chan all day long, so it's not inaccurate
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>>28803533
They might stop giving a shit, but I think Asians (especially Japanese) are too high up on the privilege totem pole to get away with "cultural appropriation."
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>>28804707
Isn't that an indicator of a problem though? I mean, it may be the new status quo, but so is every popular TV show being an over exhaggerated parody soap opera. It's like Mcdonalds. You like it when youre a kid, but when you have something of actual quality, you can't go back.
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>>28803637
>What was the Roman province of Gaul

They even drove the Gaulish languages to extinction. A literal cultural genocide. But they can't see this on History Channel so they don't even know it happened. And it was white people being oppressed even though they had literally never had privelege at any point in history at this point in time.
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>>28805206
The Gauls deserved to be removed culturally.
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>>28803482
>American Indian

Why don't you just call black people Niggers or coloreds, or call asians Orientals?
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>>28805226
Hot opinions on the Gauls.
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>>28803482
There's Pacific islander fetishization in the games? What examples are there? I want to try and see how this person came to that conclusion.
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>>28803624
Can confirm. My fresh-off-the-boat chinese parents don't give a shit about orange chicken, but my little brother literally cannot shut up about Panda express polluting our heritage.
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>>28805226
t. julius caesar
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>"oh boy this bait sure is lazy I'm sure nobody would fall for that one"
>139 replies
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>>28803614
>fuccboi
I thought school started again
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>>28805323
/pol/ is the glue that holds everything together.
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>>28805323
It is a lot of self-motivating bait generated by the community to find things to complain about.
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>>28804087
Not that anon but I've known way too many pieces of shit in my life who only got whipped when they caused trouble for their parents, meaning that the whipping wasn't disciplinary but retributive. These parents didn't teach their children to behave or give them any form of discipline but bragged about what tough parents they were because of how hard they would whip their kids.

I have no problem with spanking/whipping/wailing on your kid's ass or back but most people treat it like it magically makes for well-behaved disciplined children and end up using it as a crutch.
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>>28803636
>appear to be female
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>>28803482
people like you are why we're having race wars again.
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>>28804660
>that it's lost its meaning
Top fucking kek
Prostitution exists since the dawn of times.
Marriages, for most of human history, were not out of love, those were the special cases instead of the norm.

If anything, the percentage of people having meaningful sex is higher than it's ever been. People with a healthy love life just aren't as vocal and mediatized as degenerates.
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>>28803630
Fuck you, this meme is almost as old as Mozart would be if I was still alive.
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>>28804725
Whether this is legit or just some bullshit a male 20-something thought up, I want you to know that you're a disgusting human being.
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>>28803561
Because western devs are afraid of being called racist/sexist/homophobic. Thankfully jap devs don't give a shit. Now if only we could root out the cancer in localization teams we would be all set.
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>>28803482
Alola isn't Hawaii.
Unova isn't the US or Manhattan.
The first 4 regions aren't Japan.

SJW cunts can fuck right off.
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>>28805226
I'm not saying they didn't, I'm just saying it happened. The reason these stupid fucks think only certain groups were oppressed, enslaved, or prejudiced against is because they dont know history. Literally almost all peoples have been enslaved at some point by another people, almost all have been exploited in some way, and almost all have been "culturally appropriated" one way or another at some point in history. What used to be heralded by liberals as an amazing thing, the cultural melting pot, is now demonized. It's not a bad thing for cultures to mix. It's a great thing. The reason Europe stomped everybody's shit in the end is because of Rome raping the culture of Europe and forcing them to carry their little cultural rape babies to term and raise them to be literate, build infrastructure, and fight and die in the legions to help Rome get more culture pussy to knock up. The world is legitimately a better place for this now.

TL;DR: Roma Invictus, the West should be inserting its culture into everything it possibly can in every way it can.
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>>28803533
I still laugh every time I see that PBS Ideas show because in their episode on Cultural Appropriation featured used Honda as the example for punch-out.
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I wouldn't even be mad. This is one of the best portrayals of Hawaii I've seen to date. It's positive, did its research, and it isn't that serious or politically driven. I bet it's a white guy being offended for the Hawaiians. Bonus points if he managed to find the small group of super asshurt ones or mainland Hawaiians trying to stay connected by latching onto the most vocal faction.
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>>28803766
>and that's racism.
They can't be racist, they're not white.
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Remember when Lego faced the same problem with the Maori, and they changed the Bionicle names?

Thank God the Japs aren't cucks like Danes.
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>>28805930
It was literally names that worked in context anyway.
Call people words that mean Fire, Stone, Villager, Elder, etc.
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>>28805885
Blacks are the most racist
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>>28805930
Lego is basically the battleground for war against gender stereotypes now.
Give the Danes some slack.
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>Race issue comes up

>White people then debate each other over whether they should speak on the behalf of minorities in saying that they are or aren't offended

Every time.
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>>28806010
Yup. That's why they made white people their slaves for hundreds of years.
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>>28803766
No. There's a time and place for everything, and a lighthearted kids game is neither time nor place. There are plenty of other outlets to address the disadvantages and troubles Hawai'ians face. To expect a fucking Pokemon game to highlight and cover such topics to drive home some message about cultural appropriation and racism is retarded and unfair to kids.
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>>28806104
WE
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>>28805483
>if I was still alive
Wait... does that mean you found a way to shitpost from the other world?
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>>28806186
WAS
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>>28806104
I know you're being sarcastic, but just in case you aren't: Back then, even black people had black slaves.

Also, stop bringing up things from the past that literally do not concern you. It's like people calling Germans Nazis just because we had Hitler.
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>>28803575
back to facebook normie
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>>28806199
KANGS N SHEEEIT
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>>28803550
Wow, I hate this picture.

Dont Japanene people really like hawaii? Polynesian myths and motifs are really interesting too. Sometimes i just dont know what these people want- fiction based only on western europe with no kind of thematic diversity? I understand this is bait, but come on
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>>28806225
>Dont Japanene people really like hawaii?
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>>28803566

Their own culture four times, American twice (Soon to be 3), and France.

And probably England for gen VIII.

Did anyone complain about my boy WARGLE/Braviary during gen V? I hope so.
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>>28803766
Maybe they touch up on the issues in a light-hearted way. We just don't know yet because the games aren't out yet.
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>>28804733
I like this guy
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>>28806104
Nggers on twiiter are racist.
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>>28803513
It's from Tumblr so chances are it's legitimate autism taken directly from muh hugbox safespace.

Here's what it looks like:
http://missivesfromghosts.tumblr.com/tagged/gpoy
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>>28803624

Where's that video of the Japanese boy laughing at the Americans who protested a Kimono exhibit?

One that I might add was being run by Japanese immigrants who laughed at them and told them they didn't really know their culture and that kimono's are meant to be paraded around for fun?
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>>28806225
Japanese love it here. The tourist sector is huge. With most of the travelers being repeat visitors. For contrast they make up 20% while the rest of the US is 60%. Hawaii was also the only tourist destination that's still growing during the economic stagnation.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/03/12/business/japanese-tourists-longing-hawaii-still-worth-banking/#.V-r54LXwPj4
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The only direct link the games have to actual Hawaiian-originated culture are the island names, the Tapu/Kapu prefix, and one of Oricorio's forms.
Unless someone wants to correct me about flower rings and board-riding being invented by Hawaiians, that is.

Otherwise it's just a tropical setting with the localization making the terminology feel more familiar to the region's audience as usual. What an outrage, right?

>Island Kings become Kahunas
>Lord/Guardian Pokemon become Totem Pokemon
>Japanese onomatopoeia for a chicken's cry becomes the Hawaiian onomatopoeia for a chicken's cry

How dare they. Political crime of the century.
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>>28806010
Blacks can't be racist, they don't have privilege.
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>>28803503
Fpbp
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>>28806104
White people didn't enslave black people because they were racist, they became racist so they could justify to themselves the ongoing enslavement of black people that they had become a part of.

TL;DR SJWs have it literally backwards.
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>>28803640
>>28804715
Native americans never lived in Hawaii, that's what makes this entire post hilariously racist in itself.

>>28803681
It's both grammatically and politically incorrect. In English it's [foreign culture] American. "American Indian" is what people formerly called Native Americans because of Christopher Columbus thinking he was in India instead of the Americas. He called the natives "Indians" even though they were not actual Indians. The more you know.
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>>28803482
desu there is way to much hawaii stuff going on kalos was france and they didnt make a baguette pkm
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>>28806381
Thats oppression not racism. A black man calling asians chinks is racist.

Any race can be racist, it's a choice and culture thing.

It was from old european culture to be racist towards negros which Usa never really dropped ever.
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Nippon doesn't give a fuuuuuuck.
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>>28806265
Ironically, mainlanders seem to hold a grudge a lot more than people from Hawaii. Some tend to litter around Pearl Harbor and talk loudly when they get bored at the Arizona Memorial. I think that they forget that it's a memorial, not just a tourist attraction. The Japanese tourists are a lot easier to deal with, but their presence triggers some of the mainland tourists. It's still a nice place. Military museums are cool, there are some missiles on display in front, aviation museum is kinda small, but you can tour the Missouri and the Bowfin. You can also get a good view of ships during the joint drills and whenever the Carriers or the golf ball are in. The old vets are always there, and they're usually glad someone takes interest.
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>>28806499
No, see racism is prejudice + Privilege, so if you don't have privilege you can't be racist.
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>>28806381
Racism is a state of mind you moron.
Anyone can be racist, it's just not oppressive in cases like that.
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>>28806579
see >>28806564
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>>28806094
>White-passing sjw creates a non-existent issue

>they can't even get their facts right without using racist terminology like POC or in this case "American Indian people"

every fuckin time.
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>>28803624
Or, funnier yet, the person complaining about appropriation is not even from that culture at all, and just wants to be offended on their behalf. If anything that's the more common kind.
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Why the fuck do you people care about what a literal no one has to say?

OP has searched around trying to find a post like this just so he can whine about it, theres dumb people on the internet this is nothing new
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>>28806341
I want to see this.
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>>28806564
That's full of shit, there's no concept of privilege in racism, it's only there when it comes to actually exercising a form of oppression against someone.

Fuck, even minorities can be racist against other minorities, if a black guy hates asians based on stereotypes, it's racist no matter what crappy one-sided logic you use.
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>>28806622
Ugh, how can you be so ignorant?
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>>28806622
Why are you replying to obvious bait.

Why are all of you replying to obvious bait.
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>>28806360
Quite a lot actually. The mongoose/ rat story for yungoose/ alolan ratata is pretty Hawaiian specific. Oricorio in general is based on Hawaiian honey creepers. Lei's aren't exactly unique to Hawaii, but they are part of the base culture. Hawaii is the birthplace of surfing, and it was revived by Olympic swimmer duke Kahanamoku in Hawaii and brought to Australia when he showed it to them there. All of the trial captains have polynesian names based on plants, most of them using the Hawaiian specific names. Sophocles' name and reasoning are particularly a doozy.
Kinda related I guess are all of team skull being named after commercial decorative plants in Hawaii. Bruxish being a trigger fish like the state fish. Jangmo-o having the Hawaiian word for dragon in its name. The Japanese towns and the fall of the Monarchy mentioned in Alolan Meowth's text are also taken from Hawaii's history.
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>>28803482
stuff like this made me turn away from being a Social Justice Juggernaut(TM) and into a very quiet reblogger on tumblr. Now I use 4chan more than I ever because of the ironic toxicity of tumblr
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>>28806671
Right I should also mention that I think this is great and that SJW's are dumb.
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Tumblr culture is like the ethics version of chinese whispers. Often people don't go to the lengths of properly understanding the things they try to stand for and so they come off like jackasses in situations like this, which is actually a respectful depiction of the culture.

Add in callout culture and you've got why the place comes off as so shitty en masse. You've got to pick and choose the reasonable people.

>>28806336
>i disagree with this person's opinon
>time to start making fun of what they look like and try to get others to join in
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>>28803482
This is the incorrect usage of the word "fetishization", they clearly meant "cultural appropriation" but they're still wrong either way because being against the blending of cultures is a form of separatism and we've already defined separatism as a form of racism along with segregation.
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>>28806671
Whomever made this seems hilariously ignorant of the fact that Pokemon characters have been named after plants in nip since gen 1
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>>28803482
>4 notes
This post probably would've went completely unnoticed and faded into obscurity, but thanks to everyone on here for making a thread about it gain over 200 replies
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>>28806707
>"here's my public selfie tag"
>show people the public selfie tag
>WOW HOW DARE U MAKE FUN OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE
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>>28803482
Because Hawaii is Japan jr.
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>>28803482
If Gamefreak were white then the Hawaiians would have been pissed.
They really hate Haole
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>>28805930
To be fair, they went to court and LEGO lost
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>>28806727
>along with segregation.
haven't you heard, they want to bring that back too.
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>>28803482
You're talking about a Japanese company that makes millions of dollars on the Italian equivalent of Uncle Tom.
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>>28806805
I think you missed that it wasn't the person themself that linked it here. And even if it was, that doesn't change the truth of the point I made.
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>>28806620

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwoSYWIgV9Y

and in the pic are the older Japanese woman mocking the children who protested.
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>>28803624
Jamaican anon here. Can confirm. All the niggas at my high school had dreadlocks but I guess in my generation that is one of the cool and fresh hairstyles that a lot of black youth have nowadays. I don't really give a fuck. I have an Afro.
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>>28806899

Also the reason is because Lego fucked up and named the lowest form of Bionacle after one of the most important parts of their culture.

That was entirely where the problem rose from. After the court case they smoothed things over and brought on a consultants.
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>>28803624
I think about this a lot. I work at a fast food Chinese mom and pop shop, they are native to Indonesia. They flipping love inviting us all to their traditional events, find it endearing a 6 year old wrote a letter to them saying "thank you chinees or japonees frends" and they cook super American food. Meanwhile we get customers on phonecalls that say they want that this must be owned by stupid white people because it's all "americanized filth". They don't believe us when we tell them it's a fully Asian kitchen staff.
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Fuck off, Hawaiins love when their culture is in entertainment.

I lived in Hawaii when Lilo and Stitch came out. Everyone loved it.
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>>28807228

Most cultures do.

Only Americans complain really barring maybe stuff like Scarjo in GITS. Because I am sure 2ch was at least angry.
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>>28807228
He's right.
Everyone is excited about the new Moana trailer now. The only people I've heard of getting offended are mainlanders who've also been getting offended that Maui is being voiced by the Rock ,who's part Samoan, because they think he's full white. That or he looks kinda weird. He does, but it fits with the aesthetic.
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>>28807276
Not just americans. Pretty much every western white leftist.
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>>28807209
>fully Asian kitchen staff
Well then you're just enslaving them, making them cook their food so you can take their money you white devil.
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>>28806671
Now I need to think of a flower name for the MC in Sun....
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Why is this thread still alive


too lazy to read the latter half.
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>>28803680
Indian Elephants is real, they are in the pokedex
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>>28805226
Look here Obelix, another one of those Roman faggots...
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>>28806671
>Hawaii is the birthplace of surfing
Recreational surfing.
I'm fairly certain that floating on water with the aid of a board wasn't exactly a novel idea throughout human history.

And Pokemon aspects with floral/fauna inspirations should be the last thing considered regarding cultural connections considering non-literal wildlife appropriation doesn't quite make sense under any context, which is why I only singled out the language-specific instances, although I did forget about mentioning Mallow/Ma'o, Sophocles/Mamane, and Hala.

While the Yungoos-Rattata set-up does draw from Hawaiian history, the fact that the end result diverges in how Pokemon presents it was what made me reluctant to call it a direct link, while the Meowth situation was too general and broad to reasonably consider.
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wtf i hate pokemon sun and moon now
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>>28806618
it's not about the specific person. many people share the same sentiment and we're mocking every single one of them, not just this one.
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>>28803482
That's exactly what happened. Pokemon Sun and Moon spotted Hawaiian Culture across the bar, bought her a drink, and roofied it. Then Pokemon took Hawaiian Culture back to his apartment and had his way with her. When Hawaiian Culture tried to file charges, Pokemon's defense was, "she was asking for it!"
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>>28803482
>We want representation!
>Disney and Gamefreak make things off of Hawaii
>WTF this gives a false representation of our culture!
Every time.
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Why is digimon frontier the most hated season?
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>>28807008
>tfw you'd fuck the forehead mama in the middle
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These types tend to be autistic and think we're literally trying to copy the other culture when we 'appropriate'.

They don't understand the difference between an homage and a rip-off.
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>>28803766
So it's racist to portray the fun, lighthearted aspects of a culture without also acknowledging the issues and troubles that people in that culture endure, every single time?

This is insane. I'm not saying we should never portray the plight that other groups of people have to suffer. We definitely should if those problems are unknown or being deliberately ignored by the population at large. But when did it become unethical to ever portray a Hawaiian as a normal and well-adjusted person without any extra baggage?
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Have they ever fucking been to Hawaii

This is what it's fucking like

Jesus shit it's not fetishization it's an accurate depiction of Hawaii
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>>28803482
>it's a random ass tumblr post with <10 notes episode
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>>28803482
>fetishization
Look, another tumblr kid inventing terms! Let's make fun of him!

Seriously though, it's the same fucking reason other regions were based in real countries and nobody gave a flying fuck.
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Its cock fighting anyways, not like it wasn't already offensive if your one of those easily offended types.
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>>28805226
And dindus don't?
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>>28803503
>the city of Hawaii
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>>28812617
To be fair, its what we want it to be like/ what we want to give the tourists.
That being said, give us more tourists, Hawaii's great. Go hiking or diving and eat at a Luau or a small Japanese restaurant or something.
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>red: okay because European
>yellow: okay because mostly American
>purple: okay because creators are Japanese
>pink: INTENSE FETISHIZATION
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>>28812804
They are all based on Hawaiian birds, so is it double fetishization?
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I'll never understand why we get these threads if everyone just takes the bait and agrees with eachother about it.
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>>28810281
Except they don't, no one actually cares bar this cherry picked fuckwit, from what I've seen the bastion of evil tumblr loves what we've seen

Why does 4chan have this habit of finding crazies, pretending they're the norm then circlejerking about how much smarter they are. This is the saddest shit and makes you just as stupid
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>>28806549
Hey, I went there today.
It was interesting to see people of all nationalities. I sat on the boat next to a family from Japan. They did not really talk much among themselves.
I work in Japan, in Nagasaki coincidentally. When I was scheduled to go to Oahu on business one of my coworkers said sarcastically "Remembah, Pauru Haaba." then another came up and sarcastically said "Remembah Nagasaki Hiroshima!" We all had a good laugh. The Japanese as a whole seem to be over the whole WWII thing, Once I was in a room with the raising the flag on Iwa Jima picture, a coworker asked what it was, I told him and he responded "Oh we lost that one" then had a light chuckle.
/blog
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>>28803482
What the hell is wrong with white people? Why do they care about other people so much?
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>>28812899
Anon, are you implying that pic you posted is an actual real life species?
It's fanart
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>>28813087
Nice, hope you enjoyed yourself. I always liked the place because aside from the military stuff, the army made marine preserves in the harbor Loch's, so it's always nice there. Are you heading anywhere else? Just in case you need any tips, some places get kinda crowded if you're going without a tour at the wrong time.
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>>28813134
Ah, thank you, but I'm heading back to Hoenn tomorrow.
My time in Alola has been fun. Crowded as hell though and I can see why they chose Yungoose as the regional rodent.
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>>28813157
Yeah, they're all over the place. Conversely locals freak out when they see squirrels on the mainland. Sometimes they try to bait them over. I don't think they understand the concept of animals having rabies, since mongooses the state is clean. Have a nice flight.
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>>28803766
Pokemon also exploited French and American culture despite being Japanese. Wheres your outrage on that retard?
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>>28803566
Wait, Twice?
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>>28806671
>That picture
Japanese Pokemon characters have been named after plants since gen 1. This picture has nothing to do with anything.
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Remember when Resident Evil 5 came out and people were up in arms that you were killing black zombies. In Africa. Yet no one cared that you were killing Spanish yokels in RE 4
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>Just wondering, thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BlaI2p-cBo&feature=youtu.be&t=8m47s
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>>28803533
Naw, neogaf and video game journalism sites hate Japan for making "creepy" fan service in games. Even nintendrones were happy when things get removed in localization despite the fact they could ignore that kind of content.
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>>28805331
He's probably being bullied.
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>>28804731
After Specter Knight's campaign.
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I'm sorry but if you believe in the term "cultural appropriation" your brain has been burned down and you probably don't give a fuck about real issues, you just want to be seen as a good person because you pretend to do
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>>28803482
FUCK me they're literally celebrating a country's culture with a new release like they do EVERY generation
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>>28803482
OP, if cultural appropriation is so bad, then stop eating food, you're appropriating someone else's culture.
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>>28813580
XD and/or Colosseum was based on Arizona I think.
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>>28803637
>the roman's oppression of the gauls
>100 year war
>wwii german occupation

are you baiting or retarded?
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>>28814428
Yep! Phenac City is Phoenix.
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>>28803482
I'll bite the bait
I fucking hate SJWs, if you don't do something you're ignoring it and if you do do something you're appropriating it

on to the topic, why was there no outcry when they did it with Unova and Kalos? the game is developed in Japan and all 3 of NYC, France and Hawaii are foreign to them.

also, instead of being happy that more of the world will become aware of an interesting place/culture, there's outrage on behalf on someone else? most people don't give a fuck/welcome this sort of stuff

this is like that retarded bitch that though a hula dancing bobblehead on the dashboard of an asian taxi driver is somehow racist

>american indians
while trying to play concerned they used an outdated term that is deemed offensive by some people
I bet they'd be mad if they heard someone use the words "retard","negro","beaner" etc
why are americans so full of white guilt?
fucking kill yourself and don't ruin shit for other people
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>>28803482
This is for the sandcastles right?
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>>28814834
As an Indian... yeah. No. You're buying into the SJW bullshit.
Things we refer to ourselves as: Indian. Native American. *tribe's name* (I'm Mohawk). Even Aboriginal American (that's the official title used in legal practices and things from the state).

The more apt comparison would be to compare it to "black" and "African American" rather than "negro".

But this isn't really your fault... I mean it is. But you're not the source of the misinformation. That's society's fault.
We are treated and talked about as all one people, when we couldn't be more different. (Asians and Hispanics understand but have better media exposure.) And what's really racist is the perpetuation of the "noble savage" narrative that in modern times has become the "first environmentalists". Fuck you, white people. We aren't elves.

So OP's image is SJW white nonsense. We actual natives fucking LOVE the exposure of something like Pokemon SM. Because maybe after all you ignorant cucks play it, you'll stop with this whole "Native Americans are magical elves" BS that has plagued us since white people first showed up here.
And maybe some will even know that Native Hawaiians, Inuits, SW Indians, NE Indians, and MW Indians are all NOTHING alike... from appearance to culture, not the same. (Pretty sure that's asking too much as our "allies" for advocacy are SJW and think that painting us all the same is still helping...)
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>post a screenshot of any remotely disagreeable tumblr post
>less than 10 notes
>meaning nobody worth your salt actually advocates it
>200+ guaranteed replies anyway

I'd insert the Kermit edit here if it weren't so outdated but seeing /vp/ play in its own shit is somehow more entertaining
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>>28815277
sorry, I wasn't 100% sure which one is deemed "appropriate" right now, we don't really talk about that in Europe and there are a lot of contradicting stuff on the Internet
>We are treated and talked about as all one people, when we couldn't be more different
yeah I know that and I always get annoyed when people do that. there are tons of different cultures and languages (although some of them are now extinct)
>We actual natives fucking LOVE the exposure of something like Pokemon SM
Assassin's Creed III was awesome too, I don't care that most people disliked it

also I wasn't buying into the SJW BS, I was trying to show how hypocritical they are when they focus on some issues and completely ignore others when they're pretty much the same thing
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>>28807008
those signs are WAY too wordy, do these kids even understand how to protest properly?
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>>28805206
That oppression didn't have any long-lasting consequences - in fact, France is now economically and politically dominant to Italy

Meanwhile, the US colonization of Hawaii is still happening, and the reality for many Hawaiian natives today is poverty (despite the fact that Hawaii has one of the highest average per-capita income and lowest poverty rates in the country)
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Hmmm... so far as I know Hawaii is actually a state of the USA not a colony, people who are born there are citizens of the United States. Also in Hawaii more than half of the population are asians, the amount of caucasian people and natives is almost the same.

You can cry as much as you want that Sun and Moon are "murdering" the Hawaii's culture, the true is that thank to those games, me and probably a couple of other people, became more intersted on polynesian culture and learn a couple of new facts about Hawaii.
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>>28803794
>>How the fuck are you gonna highlight problems in a fucking kids game? KIDS GAME

Actually it's rather easy and GF actually is highlighting it. Most Natives from Hawaii have had to move away because of the rising cost of living there from tourism. Most of Hawaii's population is now Japanese and if you look in Alola there are many towns with Japanese inspiration. You don't have to go into the absolute nitty gritty to try to tell kids about important issues.

Heck, I didn't even know that this was a problem until someone pointed out exactly why there were Japanese villages in the game.
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>>28816370
>Most of Hawaii's population is now Japanese

so the nips basically made a game about themselves again?
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>>28803482
>Just wondering, thanks
How impotent and inconsequential.
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>>28803482
I'm Native Hawaiian and I love that some aspects of my culture is being represented in my favorite franchise.
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>>28816370
Thats life.
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>>28803624
That has an explanation, when you're a native you don't suffer discrimination because the population is like you but the diaspora in Europe or USA are a minority that suffer discrimination for being different phisically and culturally by the majority. Cultural appropriation exists in some cases but it has been plagued by over the top idiots like the one in op
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>>28803482
Hawaiian culture is raping Pokemon, just look at Alola Raichu for example. Gamefreak should make regions based on their own ideas and not base it on real world locations.
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>>28803736
You are really dumb
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>>28815277
>And maybe some will even know that Native Hawaiians, Inuits, SW Indians, NE Indians, and MW Indians are all NOTHING alike
It'd probably be easier if these levels of subdivision were more widely known. As of now it seems like either grouping everyone on the continent(s) together or memorizing the countless tribes that you're vaguely aware exist but individually have populations as little as a few hundred.
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>>28806360
You don't have to lie to defend the games. Hawaii is severely referenced in the region, not that is a bad thing just don't play dumb
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>>28805930
austrian muslims called a lego set racist and wanted it banned
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>>28817246
forgot picture
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>>28806104
Black people made black people their slaves and then sold them to the white man.
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>>28803533
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>>28806104
sandniggers enslaved whites and blacks alike

God, I hate kebabs so much
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>>28803552
711 managers
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>>28806336
why does so many people on tumblr love to show their hairy armpits? i don't get it
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>>28818663
do*
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>>28803482
Fuck the hawaiian culture.
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>>28803482
>There will never be a Mexican-themed Pokémon generation.

I'm from El Salvador but that would be the closest I will get to be in a Pokémon game.
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>>28818663
They think that by being lazy and not grooming they're rejecting conventional attractiveness which is oppressive or something. Don't actually say that pit on women is unattractive however or else you're a bigot.
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>>28819147
*pit hair
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>>28819077
>>There will never be a Mexican-themed Pokémon generation.
thank God for that
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>>28806266
>American twice (Soon to be 3)
I know of Unova and Hawaii, but what's the other one?
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>>28820826
Orre is based on Arizona
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>>28803482
I would love GF to rape my culture.
Mafia, Spaghetti and Pizza region when?
It would be so awesome that I would shit my pants instantly
>dat Mega Honchkrow
>dat poké mafia
>dat North Pokémon League
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>>28803766
Pokemon is supposed to be lighthearted and fun, though.
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>>28819077

Latin person here (Cuban/Colombian) and very much far from being Mexican but a Latin american/Mexican mythology inspired game would be fucking sick.

Pokemon that targets mareeps and flaffy's pls
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>>28822784
I love me some Japanese/Italian crossovers
also imagine the
>team Rocket return
>even more volcanoes
>maybe something about art and Leo and Mike
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>>28815553
They have to be excessively verbose and make all of their signs/speech full of "technical" terms, because saying it in english would make it clear that they're just spouting a load of bullshit.
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>>28819147
Basically all of Social Justice can be boiled down to the statement "Standards are oppressive to those who don't meet them, so we should just abandon all standards"
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>>28807008
>white institutions condoning erasure of the Japanese narrative

Fucking lol, she should ask the Chinese what they think of the Japanese narrative.
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>>28806104
Well believe it or not they did make white people their slaves for hundreds of years.
While being enslaved by the arabs and enslaving other blacks for many more hundreds of years.
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>>28825853
Basically everyone enslaved everyone so saying slavery is a black issue shows you know nothing about history beyond America.
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>>28817365
Wasn't Hagia Sofia originally a Christian church during the Byzantine Empire's reign?
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>>28815277
What did the wind spirits tell you this time?
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>>28826390
That they fucked your mom last night.
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>>28803624
Cultural appropriation is The Boy Who Cried Wolf. When an actual example of it comes up no one takes it seriously because of all the times it gets brought up for something that doesn't actually bother anyone from that culture.
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>>28826403
Woah there Yelling Bull, I don't your ancient ancestors would like that kind if talk.
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it's not raping anything. it's called taking inspiration
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Everyone just wants to fuck Lillie, Chicken, Wicke or Lusamine. Them is white people.
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>>28814428
>XD
STOP CUTURALLY APPROPIATING REDDIT, REEEE!
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>>28823443

Exactly

Standards, meritocracy, conflict and competition are sacrilege to these people, because they're fucking losers.
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>>28827088
Fuck, that sums it up perfectly.
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>>28826308
yes, but I wouldn't expect triggered SJWs to do any research
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>>28827088
meritocracy is a dumb concept that cannot exist in a determinist universe. I say that even though I'm a product of that so-called "meritocracy".

Whining about it is rather dumb either. Competition and conflict are good.

Yes, there is good reasons why people are at the top when you are at the bottom. Yes, you also have excuses to be at the bottom. It doesn't mean you should have the same things he has tho.
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