Fixed.

>>28772667
Genwars are against the rules.

Shit Triangle
Replace firered and leafgreen

replace emerald with platinum

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stop changing my image please I made the original and it was perfect

>>28772804
>HG/SS
Don't you fucking dare taint the trinity with that filth.

>>28772828
t. reddit cuckold

xy - oras - hgss

these are the holy trinity

>>28772804
Perfection.

>>28772833
>everything is x-site because you don't like it
But yeah HG/SS was shit.

>>28772869
t. reddit cuckold

>>28772667
>Battle factory + hoenn
>lame remakes
You are not even trying OP

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>>28772804
>HGSShit
>anywhere near the holy trinity

>>28772905
t. reddit cuckold

>>28772905
Don't reply to shitposters.

>>28772731
this. The fuck are you doing?

>>28772667
pokemon firered/leafgreen is shit
Pokemon platinum is better

>>28772869
>HG/SS shit
the only thing shitty is your taste

>>28772905
this

BW2 > Emerald = Crystal > FRLG > Yellow > XY

>>28772667
You mean Blue, Red, and Yellow?

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Can anyone fix it?

1. BW2
2. Emerald
3. HGSS
4. ORAS
5. Platinum

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>>28772667
>hi, I'm OP and this is bait

>>28772731
Exactly. Fire red and Leaf green are some of the worst entries in the entire series. I would absolutely put X/Y far above FR/LG, and even X/Y don't belong in any holy trinity.

I am not convinced about gen 5 either, but hard mode might be enough on it's own. Emerald is top tier, if it was removed it would have to be replaced by OR/AS, nothing else even comes close.

Might be convinced to have plat in the final slot, otherwise it would probably have to go to HG/SS.

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>>28772667

That's not the canon timeline.

This is.

>>28772667
Switch out Emerald for Platinum and FRLG for HGSS.

>>28773028
Not him, but I'm glad to see that there are people in this board who realize that FRLG are horrible games.

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>>28772667
>FR/LG
>better than HG/SS
FR/LG added more version exclusives than the originals, and Kanto wasn't modified to stay true to Gen II Kanto, they instead added a new region only for that.

HG/SS added a new mini-game that is the best so far (Kanto added a shitty one that required another player to be played)

FR/LG post-game is Fame Checker and Sevii Islands (and a lot of Surf). HG/SS post-game is Red and Battle Frontier.

Replace Emerald with Platinum and FRLG with HGSS

>>28773070
>HG/SS added a new mini-game that is the best so far
>Pokeathlon
>not irredeemable horseshit
Play a real minigame.

>>28773107

That's not the canon timeline.

>>28773107
Replace black and white

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>>28773107
>Platinum and Crystal

>>28773045
>implying that X and Y are in the same timeline as the rest of the games besides ORAS
>no seriously, this isn't even gen wars, this is literally what Zinnia says in the Delta Episode

>>28773139
>are great

>>28773162
If only that were true.

>>28773180
It is

>>28773126
>canon timeline.
Sorry what does this have to do with best games

>>28773028
>>28773059
They're not great by any means, but they aren't horrible

Origins Versus seeker Elite 4 rematches and Sevii islands for the first remake isn't half bad

>>28772804
This is perfect
HG/SS were masterpieces

>>28772667
>5 games
>trinity

>>28773253
>masterpieces
>flooded the game with gimmicks
>introduced the worst minigames
>created the worst safari zone iteration
>didn't fix shit

>>28773070
HGSS also slowed down the game, didn't fix the awful levels and pacing, and still kept the awful Pokemon distribution.

>>28773289
Literally what is wrong with gimmick

How the fuck is optional content a fucking bad thing to end

>>28773139
There's literally nothing wrong with Platinum other than no fire types

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>>28773253
>HGSS were shit*
FTFY

>>28772667
Reported

>>28773185
Having just played through them, you're fucking wrong

>>28772667
Why do people like bw2 so much? I am honestly curious, can someone tell me?

>>28773352
Because they wasted time making gimmicks when they could have been fixing the actual game.

ORAS suffers from the same problem. Honestly, FRLG were the only remakes that were a true improvement.

>>28773369
no, you are wrong.
Those were great games

>>28773382
I'm not going to disagree with you for FRLG actually improving things, but really all the game needs is a simple difficulty patch and that's fine.

ORAS on the other hand are still weak games even in rom hacks.

They are flawed games, while HGSS fucks up on easily fixable things, because they "stayed true to the originals" which is a simple fixable problem

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>>28773356

>>28773352
>Literally what is wrong with gimmick
A better question is what isn't wrong with gimmicks that do nothing but slow down the game and present nothing but worthless eyecandy.

>How the fuck is optional content a fucking bad thing to end
"Optional" is not a word that really applies if you want to make full use of the game
You have to play the Pokeathlon just for some evo stones.
You have to play Voltorb Flip to gain coins and buy TMs.

There are no alternatives. You're forced into playing these shitty minigames.

>>28773429
Platinum > Emerald, go ahead and try to prove me wrong

>>28773382
>true improvement
Only fixing movesets

>>28773417
what problems does hgss suffer from? I'm playing through them again and I found no problem yet.

>>28773444
Anon, Platinum have fire types, you're thinking about DP
But you're right, Platinum > Emerald.
Even the trips confimed.

>>28773441
>Worthless eye candy
>you actually have to do something for evolution stone
>you have to buy Tm's

Literally optional

also you can get people's numbers and they'll give you a stone depending on the person

>>28773450
People say Level curve and mon selection

That's what the mean when they "didn't fix the problems of the originals" Level curve and mon variety and "gameplay variety is bad" optional features such as following pokemon Voltorb flip (changed due localization) and Pokeathelon

It's really pathetic really

people have really been shitting on Voltorb flip in the last few months to make it ok that ORAS didn't have a substitute

>>28773361
Does rule 4 actually exists?
Anyone here get banned for starting gen wars?

>>28772667
We had this thread with the same title and image ~3 weeks ago

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>>28772667
I love you OP. FRLG are my favorites and Emerald is the best way to breed pokemon for FRLG.

>>28773473
>Literally optional
There's a key part I put in my post you might want to look at.

>also you can get people's numbers and they'll give you a stone depending on the person
Only on specific days and only for the primary stones (Fire, Water, Grass, Thunder)
The best and fastest way is the Pokeathlon and it's still a boring, tedious time sink.

>>28772667
Nigger, my first game was LG, I'm emulating LG right now, and I can assure you that it's like eating peanut butter celery. It's got some really good parts, but you can't help but wish that the bland and uninteresting shit was replaced with something else.

>>28773527
Does people actually have a problem with the level curve?
I never saw it as a problem, just intimidating.
I never had to grind in those games, either

>>28773527
>people have really been shitting on Voltorb flip in the last few months to make it ok that ORAS didn't have a substitute

If anything the fact ORAS didn't have one makes it better.
Anyway, people have had a problem with Voltorb Flip since the game came out because there's no other way to get coins in the game.
No buying them or finding them on the floor.

If you want those prizes you have to play the game and the worst part is that the game is so braindead simple.

>>28773594
How?
The game isn't hard, it's just a chore. Once you reach the minimum stat threshold you can move on but the problem is that the game doesn't give you enough if you use more than two Pokemon.

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>>28772804
>FartGold and ShitSilver
>Even in the same universe of quality as BW2

>>28773617
I used 6 and never had a problem

>>28773617
I have been on /vp/ since BW2 leaks and nobody ever talked about it until ORAS came out

>>28773639
everytime there's been a poll on here jgss wins

cry more bitch tears. hgss was way more fun. pokeathlon alone is better than the pwt

>>28772667
Replace FRLG with HGSS and you're probably good. The fact that Emerald isn't normally considered one of them always bothered me.

>>28773617
>It's hard so the only solution is grinding
Every time

>>28773645
>and nobody ever talked about it until ORAS came out
Well this is just a blatant lie. Voltorb Flip is one of the main complaints about HG/SS for the reasons said above. Especially since the online community was still there at the time.

>>28773675
What part of minimum stat threshold don't you get?

>>28772667
agreed

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>>28773617
>the fact ORAS didn't have one makes it better
typical hoennfag

>>28773045
>>28773126
Richard, they were talking about what the best Pokemon games are
It's okay, everyone makes mistakes

>>28773690
To befair HGSS hadn't been really relevant since then.

But there's a reason why ORAS didn't live up to many people's anticipation anon. It's because they expected uniquness on a level HGSS had, whether you like it or not

Also how is the slots "replacement" that was made during localization one of the main complants, if it is, those must be some damn good games

>>28773690
I actually don't understand what you mean by minimum stat threshold. I can beat HGSS with what ever pokemon I please

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>>28772667
here's a better one, make sure to stamp it over your desk so you never forget

>>28773721
hoennfags hate ORAS, nice try

>That slow as fuck Gen IV engine
>That lazily copy/pasted Battle Frontier from the superior Platinum
>That shit-tier level curve
>That boring-ass Kanto postgame
>That abhorrent pokemon distribution
>That cramped, boring, wholly unmemorable region
>That godawful "pls notice us Giovanni-senpai!" plot
>That edgy little tryhard faggot of a rival
>That shitmon-filled regional dex
>That obnoxious phone system that was a clear step back from the VS Seeker
>That over-reliance on the nostalgia of visiting a boring Ghost Town Kanto

Why in the world is HG/SS including in any "best pokemon games" list? It's not even passable.

>>28773793
Yeah, it get's confusing now.

I just call them ORASfags personally

>>28772804
It can't be perfect, you still have that BW2 trash on there.

>>28773815
Why did you list Kanto shit twice?

What did it change other than Mt. Moon?

>>28772667
>Gen 5
Hahahahahahahahahahafaghahahahahahaha

>>28773850
This

>>28772667
Platinum, SSHG and Emerald are the best Pokemon games ever, you niggas need to stop playing and memeing. it's starting to seem like you're being sincere.

>>28773793
Because it's a meme on /vp/
Most of /vp/ now started with gen3
and hoennfags hate Johtho becaue muh patters
Outside /vp/ (and many anons here) the game is praised

>>28773815
Because gen 2 was the best gen and we aren't underaged

>>28773736
>Also how is the slots "replacement" that was made during localization one of the main complants
>Anyway, people have had a problem with Voltorb Flip since the game came out because there's no other way to get coins in the game.
Essentially you were forced into playing this terrible and slow minigame for TMs that were necessary to build your team.
Like I said there's no alternative.
It didn't help that you actually COULD purchase coins in the japanese version and that it also had slots either.

> those must be some damn good games
If only it were that simple. It was one of the main complaints because it had some useful TMs locked behind it like Substitute, Swords Dance, Hidden Power and so on and that it was the only place to get Porygon in the game without trading for it.
That along with the combination of other faults and poor decisions for the sake of eye candy resulted in an ultimately bad game that people defend "because it was comfy".

>It's because they expected uniquness on a level HGSS had
Here's a life lesson anon, just because it's unique doesn't mean it's good. Just look at following Pokemon.

>>28773889
meant to >>28773815

>>28773230
Sevii islands were awful. Rematches of any kind were good, although they weren't totally new.

>>28773889
>hoennfags hate johto

other way around buddy, kohto fags get all pissy when you bring up gen 3

>>28773889
>Outside /vp/ (and many anons here) the game is praised
You do realise that "praise" is less the result of the actual game and more the nostalgia of going through Johto right?
You'd be surprised as to how many people are nostalgia blind when it comes to Pokemon but as someone who grew up prior to pokemon and has no strong attachment to it there are pretty big flaws.

>>28773960
You do realise that's bullshit, right?
It's not nostalgia, is that they had fun.
People on /vp/ barely plays the games, only shitposts about them.

>>28773847
Because the fact that Kanto was shit and the fact that they tried relying on said shitty Kanto postgame are two different points

>>28773934
Actually they were the first games for elite 4 rematches

>>28773914
>just look at following pokemon

A beloved feature by many that adds to the world?

>>28774058
So, gen II is the best because it introduced a lot of new stuff

>>28774079
No, but I do like gen 2 a lot for all of it's great innovations.

Elite 4 rematches were just a good feature

>>28774022
>It's not nostalgia, is that they had fun.
Everything can be "fun" as a child or if you have nostalgia for it. You're essentially tricking yourself into thinking it's perfect because you didn't have anything better.

It's also worth noting that a symptom of nostalgia blindness is undermining or ignoring issues and assuming everyone else is wrong but yourself.

>>28774101
Never said it was perfect, just said it was great.
>I don't like it, so it's nostalgia
Stop this meme of nostalgia

>>28774052
>Best games usually have the most haters
That's gen I

>>28774135
>It's a meme if I'm wrong
Doesn't work like that sonny.
There's a lot of problems with the Johto games.
It doesn't help that the defense people come up with it don't even make any sense. It's always things like "I was fine", "Just deal with it" or the most hilarious one
>complaining because it's "hard"

It just makes you lot sound like children who are mad that people don't like what you like.

>>28774300
>It's a nostalgia if I'm wrong!
See, I can do that too
There is a lot of problems with any pokemon game.
But Johto gave us a good feeling, that adventure into the pokemon world.
But autistics on /vp/ wanna to analize everything instead of just having fun.
Like I said, they are not perfect, but they are great.

>>28774371
>>It's a nostalgia if I'm wrong!
Wrong would imply I've said something that isn't in the game or isn't a flaw.

>>28774393
at this point, this is totally bait.

>>28774371
>But Johto gave us a good feeling, that adventure into the pokemon world.
Oh and this is called nostalgia. Johto was by far the smallest campaign in any pokemon game and there wasn't much to explore on the side either.
And with a completely barren victory road it's hard to see how one could have a sense of adventure with it.

>>28774450
Anon, starting in gen 3 we got the feeling of : SAVING THE POKEMON WORLD OF THE EVIL LEGENDARY POKEMON.

>>28774474
Who's talking about gen 3?
And for that matter how would that affect the feeling of adventure?

>>28773639
>unironically using Fart as an insult
Isn't it past your bedtime?

>>28774557
I'm just saying that there is a difference between gens I-II and III+
And that's not an adventure, that's a boring quest that looks like it was written by an edge kid.
Pokemon should not be Gods. Pokemon are pocket monsters, that's it.

>People hating on HGSS
is this a recent meme?
i mean, Jothofags may have always shitted on gen 3, but c'mon, HGSS really aren't worse than Crystal or FRLG Platinum is debatable

>>28774611
>And that's not an adventure, that's a boring quest that looks like it was written by an edge kid.
That's not explaining how it's any less of an adventure anon.

>Pokemon should not be Gods.
Then I think you should be directing your complaints to generation 4 then. That was the first instance of Pokemon being Gods.

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>>28774611
>And that's not an adventure, that's a boring quest
And adventure and a quest aren't mutually exclusive.

>>28773889
>most of /vp/ now started with gen 3

nah it's at 4 now, if not 5

>>28774654
k, gen III was demi Gods. Groundon shaped the continents and Kyogre flooded the ocean.
Because that feeling of choosen one, it's bullshit, but you probably like it

>>28774654
Also, it's more about action than adventure

>Emerald
>Platinum
>Black2/White2

anyone that says otherwise is wrong

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>>28772667
I would 150% agree if it weren't for the dex limitations of gen III (not being able to trade eggs or National Dex Pokemon until postgame, not being able to evolve Golbat in FRLG, etc.).

This may be an unpopular opinion, but BW1 is better than 2 imo. The regional dex in BW2 could be considered better, but I actually liked having an entire region of brand-spanking new mon. Only retards sperged out about this, but it was objectively fantastic. BW1 has much better pacing than BW2, a lot less stop & go / interruptions by NPCs. Granted BW2 has god-tier postgame and more features in general, but as for the in-game, BW1 comes out on top. Both are great though.

However, Emerald and FRLG would be the best in the series if it weren't for those retarded dex limitations. Really takes away from the replay value when you're forced to use the same mon over and over again in each playthrough (where in Ruby/Sapphire you can trade eggs and any mon you want in and out whenever with or without the national dex, which is why imo they're not obsolete compared to Emerald).

All that said, my top three favorite Pokemon games would have to be BW1, Emerald, and Yellow in that order.

>>28774721
Not even demi gods are an accurate description especially since in the gen prior we had Pokemon with feats such as resurrection. Something like that borders on godly not to mention we had Zapdos, Moltres and Articuno that can seemingly control every aspect of their element completely. Essentially they're on the same level for the same reason Bobby Drake is an omega level mutant but that's a different area.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that they're not much stronger than the regular legendaries we've encountered by that point. The only thing that really changed was their plot relevance.

>Because that feeling of choosen one, it's bullshit, but you probably like it
Again, how does that detract from an adventure?
Going outside of Pokemon for a moment, was Xenoblade any less of a grand adventure because Shulk was the chosen wielder of the Monado?
What does one have to do with the other? What makes you think they both can't be?

>>28774742
Uh, alright?
First you say adventure and then you change it to action.
But what made things more action packed in Gen 2?

>>28774910
Jotho - adventure
Battle against the demi Gods - Action
Got it?

Yeah, that lore was so real, right?
Pheraps they weren't dead, just weak as fuck.
You can't say that Ponyta jumps Eiffel towers, right?
But in gen III+, the lore is real, since the evil guys are looking for them

>>28774910
Also, what's the point of this discussion?
Are you gonna change the way that people outside /vp/ look at Johto games?
They like it, and I'm trying to explain why.
But honestly, this is bullshit. Feel free to hate it or call it nostalgia just because you don't like it.

>Gen 5 anything
lol

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>>28775019

>t. "my favorite games are HGSS"

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You're all wrong.

>>28774967
>Jotho - adventure
>Battle against the demi Gods - Action
You seem to think that these two things are mutually exclusive. Why is that? You know there's an entire genre called action adventure right?

In any case how does having more action detract from the more adventurous elements? And for that matter what, in detail, do you think adventure is?

>But in gen III+, the lore is real
That's the thing, they're powerful that much is certain but the lore isn't exactly confirmed. No one has ever seen it actually creating any land or evaporating the ocean.
Basically it has the same amount of credibility as Ho-oh resurrecting the beasts.

>>28775009
>Are you gonna change the way that people outside /vp/ look at Johto games?
Of course not. Is it a crime to have a discussion and see the viewpoints of other people? You in particular are kind of odd seeing as you think one thing can't exist while something else is true in this case it's action can't exist alongside adventure.

Get what I'm saying?

>just because you don't like it.
Way to bring it back around. But next time make sure you're not the one in a humph.

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>>28775073

Silly anon, pic related is best pokemon game.

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>>28775073
Almost.

>>28776725
How? Colosseum had a story mode.

>>28777404
Yeah, and the story mode came complete with almost all other features from Stadium removed.

Story mode was neat, but it was too fucking grindy.

Had Colosseum came with every feature of Stadium PLUS the story mode, it would be without challenge the GOAT Pokemon game of all time easily.

But Colosseum doesn't have the GB tower allowing for speedy runthroughs to grind for TMs and build competitive teams, nor did it have Stadium at all--not to mention no Gym Leader Castle (or rentals, always liked to scope out the rentals to see how they compared to guys I raised or to give me neat team ideas, or to supplement my team if I didn't have quite the right guys I needed, which would have been really fucking great considering there was no GB tower to speedgrind with).

Stadium 2 is ALMOST as good as Stadium 1, but for some inane, retard reason, it came with none of the convenience of Stadium 1.

(cont)

>>28778227
>Stadium 1 came with Doduo tower, you then had to beat R-1 to unlock Dodrio tower (this was the only unlockable in the game)
>Stadium 2 has no Doduo tower until you beat R-1 and even then it's ONLY for RBY, not GSC. You have to beat the entire game (R-2) in order to unlock the Doduo/Dodrio tower for GSC [????] which makes grinding for a good Stadium 2 team no different than grinding for a team for Colosseum, slow and horrible. You can run through a RBY game in an hour with a full team and TMs in Stadium 1, but 2 you can only do it if you beat the whole game first, but then what's the point?
Stadium 2 also had any and all convenience removed from the N64 GB gamepack interface as well. For some reason, unless you have caught 150 Pokemon in a RBY/GSC game, you can't withdraw any Pokemon you deposit into the Stadium cart (Stadium 1 you can add/trade/switch out guys from the Stadium cart to your RBY carts and back again at your leisure). AND even if you have 150 Pokemon caught, you can ONLY transfer the Pokemon between that specific game and Stadium 2, NOT any other GSC games you may have (unless you've caught 150 in those games too). So forget about breeding a cool team for an in-game run and transfering them from Stadium 2, because you can't. So basically, in order to use any of the gameboy/n64 interface features in Stadium 2, you have to have beaten a GSC game AND have Stadium 2 itself completely beaten as well. Really pisses me the fuck off.

tl;dr Stadium 1 combined with RBY are easily the best games in the series. So fucking goat it's insane.

The ONLY flaw is that you can't dump all your items from all your RBY games into Stadium 1, you can deposit items into the Stadium cart, but you can only withdraw them from the game you deposited them from. A small hiccup in an otherwise fantastic fucking game. Can't beat it, laddie. Not to mention the OST and the announcer.

Why the didn't continue the trend of Stadium is fucking beyond me.

>>28773844
Dubs confirm, B2W2 really is nothing special desu

>>28773408
I have played every gen EXCEPT 4
I am playin thru crystal rn, and I can confirm. It is good.

>>28772804
just replace the emerald with platinum and it would be finished!.

holy trinity shall be completed as inteded by our lord and savior arceus!.

>>28780559
>replacing Emerald with shit
No thank you.

>>28772667

Replace B/W2 with B/W1
Replace FR/LG with Platinum

That's the godhead of the franchise.

>>28772667
t. delusional hoennfag

>>28772869
HG/SS was the shit