ITT - Wasted potential

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Maybe the only Gym Leader that is easier in Yellow.

>>28721261
DAMMIT, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO POST THAT

>Gym Leader's ace Pokemon isn't from their region.

Why is this allowed?

>>28721220
>implying there was any potential to begin with

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>design a gym battle around an interesting new mechanic
>DUDE SURF LMAO

>redesign that batte, this time in a more complex battle system
>DUDE

>>28721279
Fucking Johto

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>no foongus
>no trubbish

>>28721307
>Swampert used Surf!
>Wailord used Water Spout!

>>28721220
Agatha was doomed by the fact there were only 3 ghosts in the entire region, and she couldn't even get away with kinda-ghosts like Lance did.

I think they would have been better off giving her 2 Haunters, 2 Gengar, and a Marowak. At least then she'd be on theme.

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If the leaks are real

>>28721220
>Last Gengar has Dream Eater with no Hypnosis

>>28721281
Pure Water
>Squirtle/Wartortle/Blastoise
>Psyduck/Golduck
>Poliwag/Poliwhirl
>Seel
>Shellder
>Krabby/Kingler
>Horsea/Seadra
>Goldeen/Seaking
>Staryu
>Magikarp
>Vaporeon

Pure Electric
>Pikachu/Raichu
>Magnemite/Magneton (during Gen I)
>Voltorb/Electrode
>Electabuzz
>Jolteon

Pure Grass
>Tangela

Pure Poison
>Ekans/Arbok
>Nidoran-F/Nidorina
>Nidoran-M/Nidorino
>Grimer/Muk
>Koffing/Weezing

Pure Psychic
>Abra/Kadabra/Alakazam
>Drowzee/Hypno
>Mr. Mime
>Mewtwo
>Mew

Pure Fire
>Charmander/Charmeleon
>Vulpix/Ninetales
>Growlithe/Arcanine
>Ponyta/Rapidash
>Magmar
>Flareon

Pure Ground
>Sandshrew/Sandslash
>Diglett/Dugtrio
>Cubone/Marowak

Pure Bug
>Caterpie/Metapod
>Pinsir

Pure Normal
>Rattata/Raticate
>Clefairy/Clefable
>Jigglypuff/Wigglytuff
>Meowth/Persian
>Lickitung
>Chansey
>Kangaskhan
>Tauros
>Ditto
>Eevee
>Porygon
>Snorlax

Pure Fighting
>Mankey/Primeape
>Machop/Machoke/Machamp
>Hitmonlee
>Hitmonchan

Pure Dragon
>Dratini/Dragonair

No pure Rock, Flying, Ghost, or Ice. Only two Ghost-type moves in the entire game, and only one Dragon-type move. You'd think they could make more appropriate Gym Leaders and Elite Four.

>>28721361
They were so beautiful, the best starters since Gen 4. If the leaks are real (and at this point they are...) this will be worse than Oshawott going quadrupedal and the abominations that were Delphox and Chesnaught

>>28721326
>unovafags will ignore this on purpose
ayy

>>28721188
Well is it wasted if Enerald makes it one of the best gyms?

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Lovable side characters, awesome evil organization, incredible worldbuilding and mythos, nice visuals, great music, but the game runs so FUCKING SLOW.

>>28721326
>>28721610
I mean Koffing and singing it's name is literally their gym

>>28721269
It's on theme, fits perfectly.

>>28721610
Tbqh they don't really fit the theme of the gym and roxie's color scheme.

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I guess all of the E4 in general but her specially, I one shot every single one of her pokemons.

>>28721659
God, I fail to comprehend why the Elite 4 couldn't have Megas in XY

>>28721456
Gym Leader #1 (Bug) ~15
>Pinsir

Gym Leader #2 (Grass) ~25
>Tangela

Gym Leader #3 (Ground) ~35
>Sandslash
>Dugtrio
>Marowak

Gym Leader #4 (Poison) ~45
>Arbok
>Muk
>Weezing

Gym Leader #5 (Psychic) ~55
>Alakazam
>Hypno
>Mr. Mime

Gym Leader #6 (Fighting) ~65
>Primeape
>Machamp
>Hitmonlee
>Hitmonchan

Gym Leader #7 (Flying (remove their Normal typings)) ~75
>Pidgeot
>Fearow
>Farfetch'd
>Dodrio

Gym Leader #8 (round and pink Normal-types with moves of all types) ~85
>Clefable
>Wigglytuff
>Lickitung
>Chansey
>Ditto

Elite Four #1 (Water) ~95
>Golduck
>Kingler
>Seadra
>Seaking
>Vaporeon

Elite Four #2 (Electric) ~95
>Raichu
>Magneton
>Electrode
>Electabuzz
>Jolteon

Elite Four #3 (Fire) ~95
>Ninetales
>Arcanine
>Rapidash
>Magmar
>Flareon

Elite Four #4 (Normal) ~95
>Raticate
>Persian
>Kangaskhan
>Tauros
>Snorlax

Champion (Mixed) ~100
>Parasect (Bug/Grass)
>Poliwrath (Water/Fighting)
>Gengar (Ghost/Poison)
>Rhydon (Ground/Rock)
>Jynx (Ice/Psychic)
>Dragonite (Dragon/Flying)

And make gaining experience easier the further you progress so that you can actually somewhat keep up with these levels. Make beating the Champion actually mean something.

>>28721397
Funny thing is I just finished a Elite 4 run on the 3DS Red version and she did nothing but spam Dream Eater on the Gengars even when I wasn't even asleep. That, or spam Hypnosis when I was already asleep.

Jesus I forgot how bad the trainer AI and movepool was in Gen I.

>>28721456
>No pure Rock, Flying, Ghost, or Ice
E4 teams are
>Half of Lorelai's team is Ice
>Half of Bruno's team is Rock
>Half of Agitha's team is Ghost
>Half of Lance's team is Flying

>>28721635
The visuals weren't too bad with the exception of that fucking hideous neon green grass.

>>28721188
Just give him Electrike instead of Voltorb. Magneton is hard to beat without Marshtomp. Even Combusken can be taken down by Parafusion and Shock Wave

>>28721188
>/vp/

>>28721673
They don't even get rematches.

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>>28721326
>>28721610
>not playing on true mode

>>28722013
Give him Electrike, Manectric, Plusle, and Minun.

>>28721188
The entirety of Castelia.

>>28721711
Aside from your retarded level curve that's pretty solid

>>28721188
well, he still the hardest gym leader in hoeen to me.
Myabe Norman is near and no one else

>>28722149
I didn't put much thought into the level curve, except for early on because having Gym Leaders with only a single Pokémon is kinda dumb unless that single Pokémon is strong by a large amount. But the jump should have been decreased with each additional Pokémon. I ordered the Gyms by how many Pokémon the Gym Leader would own, so that's why Bug and Grass are #1 and #2 since that's just using pure types.

How about
>Gym #1 ~15
>Gym #2 ~25
>Gym #3 ~32
>Gym #4 ~39
>Gym #5 ~46
>Gym #6 ~51
>Gym #7 ~56
>Gym #8 ~61
>Elite Four #1 ~66
>Elite Four #2 ~71
>Elite Four #3 ~76
>Elite Four #4 ~81
>Champion ~85

That would put the final boss of Gen I just above Gen II Red in terms of difficulty, though it's still 20 levels above the typical Gen I Champion maximum.

>>28722013
They fixed him in emerald. There he swaps the Magnemite for Electrike AND gets a Manectric

>>28721659
I like how they had to cherrypick VERY CAREFULLY to avoid every powerful Dragon type.

>>28722114
This one is loads of fun in Challenge mode, venipede at that level is quite deadly unless you use magnemite.

>>28722519
Yup, that basically guaranteed 130 power move that early in the game coupled with protect is insane if you don't use items

>>28722491
Well, Dragalge and Noivern make sense. What's annoying is that the champion took Goodra from her.

That said, it's also annoying since your rival uses an Altaria.

Seriously though, this is the regional dex where literally EVERY non legendary dragon type was available.

It really feels bad, especially when the previous Dragon members of the elite 4 were never afraid of doubling up on Dragon psuedos.

How is that Watson wasted potential? It has para-fusion, a decent unavoidable stab move and a move that handles anything that resists electricity.

>>28722628
No Manectric.

>>28721188
>Literally the only gym leader in R/S whose ace Pokemon isn't from Gen III
How could they fuck up so badly?

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WHY

>>28722742
It's even worse because manetric is on the route before that gym

>>28722791
I don't get it

gen 2 ADDED A GHOST TYPE

>>28722801
So are Electrike, Plusle, and Minun.

>>28721361
>rowlet's evo is a bro, but fuck the other two.

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Why does nobody mention this

>>28722930
What I'm getting here is that she's trying to copy Lance, so at least they put SOME thought into it, as opposed to Wattson who is missing extremely obvious Pokémon.

>>28722268
E4 LV 66 Champion 71

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>>28721326
>>28721610
I agree that she should have been switched with that fuckhead Marlon and had a full team, but whatever. Fight her in the PWT if you want to experience her fully-evolved Poison team. She's still the best Gym Leader in the entire franchise

>this will trigger somebody

>>28722791
>>28722808
"""""Generation""""" 2 was more of an expansion/sequel to Gen 1. They never intended it to be a full new Generation of Pokémon, that never happened until Gen 3.

You can maybe say they should have updated the teams in HG/SS, but they probably wanted to keep things the same for nostalgia. Not saying I agree with that sentiment, just giving the context and explanation for why Johto trainers still mostly use Gen 1 Pokemon.