Defend this.

>>28712613
Why do we need to? He already won.

>>28712613
He is just a better trainer, deal with it anon.

>>28712613
Ash used a mechanic that doesn't exist in the games, therefor he deserved to lose.

His Charizard beat 10 mega evolutions in a row, beating 1 synchro is a piece of cake.

>>28712613
He cheated, and the narrative was leading up to Ash winning, so Ash was the one who actually won. Alan winning isn't actually canon.

>>28712613
Level diference

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>>28712885

>>28712673
I like the way you think.

>>28712613
Would you go for:
>An inexperienced trainer that has an overpowered Pokemon carrying the team
or
>An experienced trainer that has a team that actually doesn't job along with one overpowered Pokemon able to wipe out the rest if needed

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>>28712885
>being this denialfag

>>28712885
It was a Gen VI competition. Synchro doesn't exist in Gen VI games. If anything, Ash cheated

He actually trained his Pokemon for a long time, instead of just wasting time.

>>28712673
Kek

>>28713000
Yeah. What about the other 5?

>>28713021
EXP. Share.

>>28713021
They were on par with Ash's team weren't they?

>>28713156
I mean, they were probably better overall. Ash's team was weighed down by Goodra and Noivern.

>>28712985
Cry more. Ash did everything fair and square. Shitlain cheated by not having his Charizard get OHKO'd by any moves used by a water type pokemon.

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>>28713067

>>28713365
Isn't Ash the one who has hit ground types with Electric attacks, used thunder as armor and use 3 Pokemon against Grant's 2?

>>28713365
Why are you so mad that Ash cheated and still lost?

Ash has bide on goodra JUST

>>28713464
>Cut on Greninja (though Cut looks strong in the anime)
>Supersonic on Noivern
>Karate Chop on a Hawlucha that already had Flying Press and High Jump Kick

>>28712613
literally got lucky because ash's team jobbed hard that fight and Guillotine is somehow an 100% accurate move now. It's almost as if he's the Tobias of XYZ or something. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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>>28712613

>>28713704
lol

Best boy.

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Alain thread?

the better man won

>>28712885
Ashfags, when will they learn?

EGAO GA SOKO NI ARU KAGIRI

>>28713736
>lol
don't reply to me or my post ever again without my authorization

>>28712613
He can defend himself just fine.

The most diligent grinder wins.

>>28712613
Ash only has himself to blame for starting his Kalos jobbers in a league final over Charizard, Sceptile, Infernape and Snorlax

>his first appearance required skull bash, hydro pump and 2 mega launcher dragon pulse from an Elite 4 to take his Charizard down
>survived an Extreme speed and SE Land's Wrath from Zygarde and was still flying afterwards
>people think it'll go down to a few attacks from a tired Pikachu and Greninja

>OHKO'd Malva's Mega Houndoom despite the resistance with Blast Burn even after the fatigue from fighting 9 other trainers
>people think 2 Dragon Claws and 1 Blast Burn shouldn't have KOed Greninja

If anything, requiring 2 dragon claws and a blast burn was a testament to Greninja's strength. But nope, people are surprised as if Greninja went down easily.

>>28712975
The funny thing is I feel like you're implying the first one is Ash with the second one being Alain, when it's the other way around.

>>28714144
Zard X is best tank

>>28713608
>>Karate Chop on a Hawlucha that already had Flying Press and High Jump Kick
It's anime rules, son. This is like saying Captain Falcon doesn't need a jab because he already has Falcon Punch and the Knee Of Justice. You need the small moves to open up for the finishing moves.

Unless you're Edgelord's Edgezard, then you can just spam your strongest move with impunity I guess.

>>28714299
>Unless you're Edgelord's Edgezard, then you can just spam your strongest move with impunity I guess

We see him using his other moves all the time. In fact, we see all his moves in Greninja vs Charizard

>The funny thing is I feel like you're implying the first one is Ash with the second one being Alain, when it's the other way around

Tell me then, how did Alain's team take out 4 of Ash's Pokémon and weaken one?

>>28712613
Ailan is better trainer than Ash.

>>28712885
the deluded ashfag

>>28714148
The first one is Ash any way you look at it anon. After Synchro became a thing he just forgot about the rest of his pokemon and had Greninja carry the team.

>>28712613
Ash sucks and deserves to lose. Happy?

>>28712885
>m-muh narrative leading up to Ash winning
Jesus, literally kys. Do you really think a show HAS to be predictable?

>>28713365
>Cry more
Kek! You're the cucked kid in discussion pal!
>M-Char Z OHKO'd by water type moves
You don't even play pokemon do you?

>>28713953
Let's go!

He won. Fair and square. Stop bargaining for why Ash lost you retards.

>>28714144
Literally this

>>28713365
Jesus H Christ you're dumb. First off, how is Alain cheating by having his mega zard X not go down in one hit? He literally has no control over that part. He just tells him what to do.

Second, being fire/dragon, its highly unlikely mega zard X would be OHKO'd by a water type move, especially one as weak as water shiruken. I don't care how big the fucking thing is.

Third, if anything ASH cheated you retard. And its because of one simple fact: mega evolutions exist in the games, synchro-evolution doesn't.

>>28712885
I actually laughed out loud, thanks

>>28713365
dumb ashfag believe that a weak water move can ohko a zardx

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>>28712885
Narratives fail in real life sports too dude.

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>>28712613
Ash sucks and rarely demonstrates applying lessons he has learned more than once.

>>28712613
>wanting Ash-Greninja to win

>>28712613
I'm pissed off that Pikachu got 2 thunderbolts off on Charizard off like it was nothing

Don't understand why they flashed Goodra's friends/family right before it was OHKO'd

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>>28712885
>>28713365
Ash choked. Deal with it nerd.

>>28713365
>Shitlain cheated cuz he had a strong Pokemon
You silly troll

>>28714144
It's a testament to how insanely overpowered Steven's Metagross is too.
>tanked a Blast Burn from a healthy Charizard to the face without a scratch
>was hurting said Charizard with steel type attacks

>>28714439
That reminds me, did Alain teach Charizard KAMINARI PANCHI just to deal with Greninja? It had Steel Wing before, didn't it?

>>28712613
I don't mind that he won
I mind that we'd seen him use Charizard for literally every battle except 1 but by the finals he had a fully trained team on par with Ash's
I mind that Noivern lost immediantly
I mind that Hawlucha couldn't take out Bisharp
I mind that Bisharp landed the OHKO
I mind that the strongest regional bird tied with the weakest
I mind that the writers gave Ash a fully evolved dragon pseudo with a near perfect record that lost to another OHKO
I mind that Greninja landed multiple hits onto Charizard to the point where he was on the ground
I mind that a special ultra powerful water shuriken didn't beat Charizard
I mind that a single not very effective blast burn from a mainly physical attacker knocked out 100% Greninja
But yeah I don't mind that he won

>>28717144
>implying Lebron winning one for the most cursed city in American sports wasn't the narrative of those finals

>>28712613
He's cute. I'd let him DORAGON KURAA all over me.

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>>28712613
BURASTO BAAAANN!

252+ SpA Mega Charizard X Blast Burn vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Greninja on a critical hit: 267-315 (93.6 - 110.5%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Greninja Water Shuriken (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard X on a critical hit: 93-111 (31.3 - 37.3%) -- approx. 91% chance to 3HKO

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>>28717317
Of the finals. But during the season nobody would shut up about the Warriors. The record breaking season. The back-to-back MVPs for Curry with the second being the first unanimous MVP in league history. Coming back from the 3-1 deficit in the WCF. They were supposed to win the championship with ease.

Then they choked it all away and LeGod brought one to Da Land

>>28717428
Don't forget how Charizard was hit a lot before that especially 2 thunderbolts on the no mega form

>>28712613
>guy who does nothing but go around grinding up his pokemon's levels and has been journeying with the same pokemon for probably years now

>guy who gets in maybe one battle a day and was on the road with greninja for like a few months.

level>type advantage. alain played the games, anon.

>>28717629
By that logic Alain should have only a Charizard and Ash should have level 100 Pikachu that has taken down several legendaries Pokemon

>>28717612
Greninja got hit by Dragon Claw twice. Which makes the point of using in-game calculations silly.

>>28717649
I thought that was only once.

Also I'm just mad they could have CharX faint even if it was after Greninja

>>28715761
>!
>pal!
Ashfags are retarded, but please fuck off.