It's a monkey

>>28680249
it's a lemur, which is a primate but not exactly a monkey

>>28680249
Its a macaque, a ring-tailed lemur, or something. Tail is way too think to be a monkey's, even "muh stylized."
Mankey doesnt have a thick tail either and most other monkeys have none at all.

>>28680249
le monke

uuuuuhhhhh

it's a pokemon

>>28680249
>B-But thats a lemur
>B-But thats not Ash's hat
>B-But thats not Mallow
>B-But the leakers are trolls
>Everything is real except the starter evos
>B-But thats not the final starters shown
>They are just Ultra Beast forms or something
>B-BTFO go away with your waifu f-furbait

Well, it IS a lemur.

But arguing the semantics of a "rugby monkey" versus "hand-egg lemur" to try and deny the leaks is extra retarded with a side of ketchup.

Calling a lemur a monkey is funny in the same way that calling a cat a dog is.

In any case though a lemur is not a monkey.

>>28680290
more like calling a lion a housecat

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>>28680249
A ruffed lemur technically but it would make sense that someone would call it a rugby monkey

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>>28680268
>>28680258
I'm having a blast right now, please, don't stop, keep it coming, guys.

no its a sea bunny

>>28680288
It's a Football money.

>>28680308
Nah, its a black and white colobus ;)

I think if the artist were trying to convey a lemur, they would've made it have larger eyes, long digits and hard stripes down its tail

>>28680290
>implying most non-/an/ know the difference
If you asked a normie if a lemur were a monkey, they'd say yes. It's not too hard to believe some leakchink got it slightly off, but by all accounts everything he's said has been 80% true so far.

>>28680561
>all lemurs are ring-tails
It's not even close to looking like a colobus, if it were one then it would have white fur trailing off it.

>>28680561
It isn't a monkey, it's based on the white and black ruffed lemur, which is why the fur patterns of both are very similar, it has a long snout, it has the neck ruff, it has yellow/orange eyes, it has a thick and long tail.

Anyway, it is totally normal that somebody would mistake it for a monkey. I believed the leaks since Pyukumukus reveal, so I just want people to know which animal it is really based on and that they stop calling it a fucking monkey because the leaker has mistaken it for one.

Reminder to all you surviving denialfags that the chinese name for passimian has the character for monkey in it.

>>28681264
Reminder that you're going to get a Fire/Fighting furbait Pokemon.

>It literally has Simian in its name.

>>28681105
it's also only called a monkey in the Japanese and Chinese names, but that's because their words for lemur include the words for monkey

>>28681284
Wow you sure told him.

>>28680249
>Named after a monkey in every single language
>it's a lemur guys! Can't you tell the difference!?

>>28681433
>Beedrill is a bee

"The leak said snowman pokemon, that's thing's not made out of snow it has three ice cubes stacked on each other with a pecha berry for a nose. Not a snowman. Leaks are fake guys get over it."

>>28681433
Well, in german it is named after a sub group of Baboons and I am sure as hell that Passimian isn't a fucking Baboon.

Also simian could come from prosimian (which is what lemurs are).

They just picked a name they could easier work with than lemur. Besides lemur anyway belong to primates, so you can take some freedom with using names from the primate family.

Also if it weren't for the leaker, nobody here would even say it is a fucking monkey because you all can clearly see it is a lemur. On sites where the leak wasn't known as much, everybody calls it a lemur. Coincidence? I think not.

It is a lémur, but thats pretty close to a football monkey. The leaks are still real. Kill yourself Balliofags

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It's name is based off of sports like rugby and football, in every language.
And it's name is based off of simian or primate in every language.
So without a doubt this is the "rugby monkey" from the Chinese leak.
But it's design obviously based on the black and white ruffed lemur.

Look, isn't it fun not being a sperg? Things make a lot more sense.

>>28681605
I think a lot of people are against calling it a lemur because they do not want to discredit the leak.

I think your post makes it easy to understand what I was trying to say.

Is it based on a black and white ruffed lemur? Yes.
Does it have primate inspirations in it's name? Yes.
Is it a monkey? No.
Can it be confused with a monkey if somebody isn't a familiar with lemurs? Yes.
Are the leaks real? Yes. Just because someone confused a lemur with a monkey doesn't discredit the leaks, they are real!

>>28681433
>Infernape
>has a tail

>>28681433
Pidgey line are all pigeons.
Sandshrew is a Shrew.
Dodou and Dodrio are actually Dodos.
Feraligatr is an alligator.
etc.

The design is above the name.
Unless you can show me the monkey this is based off. I mean huge coincidence that the design totally looks like a black and white ruffed lemur, but ok, it's still somehow based on a monkey that doesn't exist, because the name implies so.

>>28680268
there is literally no monkey without a tail

>>28682171
Then a line of what is motherfucking Jynx?

>>28680249
Actually it's a storm drain

>>28681701
>This FICTIONAL CREATURE is not a monkey because the irl thing is based on is not a monkey!
autism

>>28680249
>implying lemurs are monkeys

>>28681701
It doesn't help matter that people who calls it a lemur tend to comes off as being a denialfag.

>>28682288
Barbary macaques don't have tails.

Anyone could have predicted a monkey 2bh. Vp will literally fall for anything thats in chinese

>>28682561
Yes they do. They're just extremely small and vestigial

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Never forget

>>28682570
What about the "rugby" part then?

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Who the fuck cares if it's a monkey or a lemur? The point is it's a rugby-playing primate and you can't look me in the internet eye and tell me that it's just a coincidence the leaker said that.

>>28682592
the funniest part is that he said "obscure sport". It's a top 5 most player sport in the world. What a fucking moron

football (soccer)
basketball
cricket
rugby
tennis

that's the top 5. maybe switch out tennis for field hockey or something

>>28681433
>Charmeleon
>chameleon

>>28680249
Actually it is OP. Lemurs are prosimians and do not belong to the same suborder as "monkeys". Boku no take a bio class faggot.

>>28682570
A monkey playing handegg though?

Come on guys, the people still in denial about something as straw grasping as "it's a lemur, not a monkey" are obviously baiting. The leaks are obviously coming from someone who does not look at specifics in that light. If I seen this pokemon I would have described it as a rugby monkey as well because to me, all primates are monkeys, just like all black people are niggers. Stop feeding these fuckin trolls by arguing shit like this. Nobody would have accurately guessed any form of primate with a rugby theme and you know it. The leaks are legit, deal with it. I thought /vp was all anti starter anyways? If you don't like it I guess you better keep clenching on to hope for day and night forms. You'll live.

>>28682769
>being this casually racist

>>28682495
Indeed. I am 100% autistic about this. I just want people to know which animal it is based on.

Also, I am not a denialfag. I believed in the chinese leak for a while now. And even though he called a lemur a monkey, I fully understand why he did so.

I am not trying to deny the leak. Just want people to know which fucking animal this fucker is based on. That's all.

>>28680249
i love it

>>28682508
Came to this thread just for this comment

>>28680282
I'm not even sure why people are still doing this. It doesn't matter anymore, the starters are getting two evo forms. If you don't like what you see, then you just have to wait for the reveal of other version and see if you like that instead.

>>28682415
Nigga

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemur
Not a monkey. I know OP's post is bait and I'm not giving him a (You) but for those interested, here's all info you need.

>>28680249
>>28680288
>>28680290
It's a Passimian you fucking morons.

>>28683947
Thank you.

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>monkey with watermelon
Really?

>Implying chinese people can tell the difference between a monkey and a lemur

>>28680561
>hard stripes down its tail

its like you didn't even look at the picture the anon you're replying to posted

>>28683728
Except it is a monkey you retard. Literally all of its other names either explicitly have "monkey" in them or they reference "macaque," which is a species of monkey.

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>>28684693
it's a football!!

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>>28680249
Who would win?

Keep in mind Zoboomafoo just made it to animal junction and had a snack.

Simian literally means monkey-like, lemurfags btfo.
Also someone link that cresselia video where she points out that both japanese and chinese names literally stand for a monkey that throws something

I'm surprised we haven't had a "why can't it be both" faggot yet.

>>28681468
Beedrill IS a bee.

>>28681548
People would still call it a monkey because nearly all of its names mention monkeys.

>>28682075
>jap name has saru in it
>which is a monkey

>>28681548
>Pidgey line are all pigeons.
>Sandshrew is a Shrew.
>Dodou and Dodrio are actually Dodos.
>Feraligatr is an alligator.
>Charmeleon is a chameleon

These are all true.

WOW, POKEMON DON'T LOOK PRECISELY LIKE THE ANIMALS THEY'RE NAMED AFTER BECAUSE THEY'RE POKEMON AND NOT LITERALLY CARTOON ANIMALS

MORE NEWS AT 11

>Wartortle isn't a turtle because it has ears and a swirly tail xD

>>28685081
>Charmeleon is a chameleon

Why does it matter if it's a monkey or not?
It's clearly the rugby Pokemon the leaker was talking about. It's also entirely possible for someone who isn't well versed in zoology to mistake a cartoonized lemur for a cartoonized monkey.

I do think it's a monkey though, based on the various names, but I can see the lemur connection.

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>>28680249
>That was a good game, coach!

>>28685881
It is though. It even has a horn on the back just like chameleons.

>>28687089
>Doesn't have eyes looking in opposite directions
>Doesn't have long sticky tongue

No, it's not. Kecleon is. Chameleon isn't.

>Rugby

Are you people retarded?

>>28686543
It's more anthropology than zoology but ok.

It's a lemur and the name is a pun of "Prosimian" which are lemurs

>>28688150
The leaks said football monkey but were re translated into rugby.

>>28681605
Holy shit lemurs literally look like dogs with monkey bodies. They really are not monkeys after all.

>>28685314
Beedrill is a yellow jacket, retard

and the japanese word for lemur is "kitsunezaru," literally fox-monkey. It's impossible to work that into a pun name so they just went with saru.

>>28688262
Lemurs and prosimians are the precursor to monkeys but are still classified as primates and therefore are monkeys.

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>>28687089
>No weird ass 360 degree eyes
>No sticky tongue
>No camouflage

Are you mixing up Kecleon with Charmeleon?

>>28683504
>the starters are getting two evo forms

This isn't confirmed. The Chinese leak said Archer, Wrestler, Siren and said forms like Ash Greninja were in, so in all likelihood the starters big secret is synchro.

>>28688858
No, monkeys are a different class of primates.

>>28680249
Monkey, lemur, hamster with an elongated tail, whatever. Your faggotry cannot affect me, as I do not care one way or the other.
But watching all the autists get butthurt over this is pretty amusing.

>>28680249
While its not a monkey, a random person glancing would probably call it a monkey, and not dwell on the specifics.

>>28689154
>While its not a monkey

b8

>>28688100
>>28688921
Wow anon! It's almost as if they're POKEMON and not literal animals!

>hurr Wartortle isn't a turtle because it has ears and swirly tail

>>28688274
It's a fucking yellow and black flying insect with a stinger. It passes as a bee. You're being autistic.

The German and French names LITERALLY reference a specific species of monkey. There's no getting around that. Lemurfags are pulling things out of their ass just to make their argument fit.

Ok, anyone speak Mandarin here? I don't but I assume that Mandarin doesn't have a particular word for lemur, rather a word that means "monkey" and generally refers to smaller simians. Would that not explain the "rugby monkey" translation?

>>28689421
The chinese name has the chinese word for "monkey" in it. End of story. You can't blame the leaker for reading the name and then going "that's a monkey"

It's not a Pokemon, it can't be caught.

>>28688274
>Fox-Monkey
>impossible to work that into a pun name
Moxey

>>28689154
Not to mention that the Chinese name has the Mandarin word for monkey in it.

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>It's another "a Pokemon can only have a single aesthetic source so there's only one way to call it" episode

And I here I thought we couldn't get any stupider than the Sea Cucumber vs Sea Bunny shit.

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>>28680249
This is a football lemur not a rugby monkey. Leak is fake.

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>>28680249
>Ability: Receiver

>>28680249
Why do I feel like it will have the exact same stats as Primeape

>>28689648
Pokemon can have multiple sources on inspiration, but Passimian is literally a black and white ruffed lemur with a helmet and a coconut. Like, the only thing they added is a white ring on the tail, otherwise it is 100% lemur drawn cartoony.

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>>28690300

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>>28690405

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Alright? There's this monkey right, uhh, think it lives in the jungle an that. Anyway people started noticing, uhh that there were all these monkeys knocking about, and the weird thing is they always carried a little coconut or something with them. They thought "bit weird innit?" so they started watching the monkeys to see what was going on and that. Anyway one day this bloke left a load of pokeballs about an-

"Right Karl, if this monkey goes around catching Pokemon, we're never doing this show again."

Alright. Anyway there were loads of pokeballs knocking about and that and eventually the monkeys started holding the pokeballs instead of their coconuts and that, bit weird they thought. Then one day they're watching the monkeys and one of them drops his pokeball on the ground, and you'll never believe, a little Yungoos pops out. He'd only been catching Pokemon.

"You're talking utter shit again, play a record."

why is no one talking about how cool his ability is?
Pass him a no guard for dynamic punch or focus blast?
Mold breaker fighting type? Earthquake, close combat maybe thunder punch
Speed boosting sweeper?
Tinted lens abuse?
Add to this you can abuse all the above to make him insanely versatile

So his ability doesn't work on 1v1?

>>28680249
>monkey
>football
>"monkey" is a derogatory word for black people
>NFL is predominantly black

It's Gen VII's Jynx.

>>28690704
I don't see him getting Close Combat when he only has one free limb to fight with.

Also all of these things require setup AND losing a Pokemon. Not exactly practical.

>>28690800
It holds the berry in its tail while attacking.

>>28690800
The pokemon before doesn't have to be a sacrificial lamb, you just turn a knockout or suicide lead into greater advantage.
Also:
U-turn from swords dance ninjask
Volt switch from elective
Baton pass from, well anything.

>Send him out with a Shedinja
>Passimian used sucker punch!
>Shedinja fainted!
>Passimian received Wonder guard!

>>28688967
Of course there's two forms. That, along with z-moves, is this iteration's gimmick. Why the hell would they give Rockruff a Sun/Moon specific evolution and not the starters? You're either being a troll or an idiot to believe they are not getting two themselves, especially since they said Rockruff and the starters share a secret.

>>28680249
You're all wrong, it's a pokemon that happens to exhibits traits of more then one real world animal animal, get over it.

>>28688967
>implying people will want Ash Grenigga after the anime fiasco

>>28690800
This, Oranguru is superior just from the lack of setup required.

>>28681433
>Names
>Ever Mattering

>>28691645
>muh shared secret

That's a mistranslation.

>>28691715
Still butthurt they about Serena leaving, eh Amourshippers?

>>28691751
Prove it. Post the 'correct' translation then, and link it.

>>28691588
Everyone always goes with strictly self-destructive means of killing Shedinja to get Wonder Guard on Passimian. Why not go with something constructive that gives Shedinja a job to do other than dying?

Try putting a Flame orb onto Shedinja, for example, and then running a trick set to burn something before dying. Or maybe have Shedinja hold a red card to force out anything that attacks it with direct attacks, or Safety Goggles so it can't be killed by weather effects and the enemy has to devote resources to killing it before it spreads Toxic around the team.

It's the least reliable thing ever, but at least it's something to DO other than sacrifice itself.

>>28691902
start with tyranitar and maybe sunruff and then switch to footballemur and shedinja

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>>28688967
I defiantly don't like the idea of starters getting split evos, it just doesn't sound right to me.

BUT the chinese leaks also didn't say Rockruff would have seperate evos either. Or rugby monkey having a counterpart. It's sad but, I'll still be in denial about split starter evos till confirmation.

Since so far the leak is right and we have no hints at day and night forms what would be a good replacement for a fire type

....duh it's a monkey. Who doesnt understand it's a monkey?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosimian

I like to imagine these kinda threads are just Ace Attorney characters shitposting about semantics.

It's a stepladder

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it's a lemur, which is a primate but not exactly a monkey
But leaks are real

Why is everyone forgetting the most important part? The fact that it was stated to be a rugby monkey. The combination of a primate utilizing a sphere as an allusion to sports is VERY specific. You can't deny that.

>>28680249
it's a monkey

Its a passiflora incarnata.

>>28685181
Zaboo has a high speed stat and that's about it. For sure Passimean.

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>>28689352
>It's a fucking yellow and black flying insect with a stinger. It passes as a bee. You're being autistic.
It's definitely more similar to a wasp. You just have way too loose a definition of a bee.

>>28680538
You sound butthurt

>>28693299
Just trade for it. I mean, that shit is one of the key functionality they've been selling as a feature for the game since gen1. You could have never collected them all without trading, so why is this suddenly such an issue?

>>28697314
>It's definitely more similar to a wasp.

Doesn't matter. It still looks like a bee. And it's officially referred to as a bee. Your autism just because pokemon aren't literally the same as animals doesn't factor in.

>>28694819
The leak is right except for the most important part. The Sun/Moon evo split. This proves the leakers are not employees but people that have only glanced at certain parts/artworks of the game. This is such a key aspect for this iteration of the game that not saying anything about it speaks volumes of how much the leakers actually know. It's safe to assume all the things they've said so far is real, but there are still more things left to be revealed.

>>28697446
It doesn't really look like a bee though.

>>28697946
>>It's a fucking yellow and black flying insect with a stinger. It passes as a bee. You're being autistic.

>>28697967
Bees don't even have visible stingers though.

>>28698013
Bees and wasps don't have huge horns for hands either.

>>28697967
>no fuzz
>skinny body
>long legs
>aggressive demeanor
seems more like a wasp to me

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>>28697446
>>28689352
look out guys, it's a ferocious lion!

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>>28698092
Don't worry I'll lure it away with a chicken.

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>>28698193
But what are we going to do about this bat?

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Only on /vp/ could a thread arguing about something like this last almost an entire day.

>>28698036
It's a bee. Those differences you listed are because it's a pokemon and not a cartoon animal.

>>28698092
>>28698193
>>28698228
nice meme

doesn't change the fact that it still looks like a bee unlike your shitty examples

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>>28698279
It has "ant" in its name so it must be an ant.

>>28698279
>doesn't change the fact that it still looks like a bee
Beedrill doesn't really look like a bee at all though. Anyone who knows anything about entomology can clearly tell it is meant to be a wasp.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It's a giraffe.

I like lemurs, I like monkeys, this guy kind of looks like a lemur, kind'a looks like a monkey, and I like SPORTS. It's all win/win for me no matter what.

>>28698492
>kind'a looks like a monkey
How? There is nothing monkey about it that isn't already shared with lemurs.

>>28698307
No, it comes from "bouffant." The "bee" from beedrill's name comes from "bee."


>>28698363
>Beedrill doesn't really look like a bee at all though.

>yellow
>black stripes
>insect-like
>hurrr it doesn't look like a bee

>Anyone who knows anything about entomology can clearly tell it is meant to be a wasp.
Anyone who knows anything about entomology can clearly tell it is meant to be a pokemon that isn't meant to be a 1:1 copy of a real life animal

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>>28698559
If I draw an elephant that has no tusks, no trunk, small ears, horns, brown spots, and a long neck, is it still an elephant?

>>28698655
What you posted doesn't have a stinger and doesn't have the same body shape as a bee.

>If I draw an elephant that has no tusks, no trunk, small ears, horns, brown spots, and a long neck, is it still an elephant?
lmao don't be retarded, Beedrill looks like a bee and it's far less drastic than what you are describing.

Your autism over it not having hair doesn't matter.

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>>28698710
Don't tell me you think this is a kangaroo.

>>28698755
>pouch with a baby inside it

It's pretty fucking obviously supposed to be based on a kangaroo, anon.

I can't believe there's this much retardation over a pocket monster looking like a MONSTER instead of a cartoonified animal.

>>28698710
>>28698655
>Pokemon can only be based on one thing and not take inspiration from several things

You're both autistic and should just fuck and make up already

>>28690673
I want the next region protagonist to be Karl.

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>>28690673
Anon you're amazing

>>28682495
>the fictional creature Blastoise isn't a shellfish because the irl thing it's based on isn't a shellfish
Nice argument

>>28682616
>Bird pokemon
>literally cheerleaders
>Each island will have a sportmon with its own Cheerleader bird

>>28682769
People still call chimpanzees monkeys. It's less of a stretch to call a lemur a monkey than a chimp.

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>people have strong opinions about what animal a Pokemon supposedly is and will spend all day on a west Korean fan blowing chat room defending this opinion with long, thoughoughly thought out posts

kys yourselves retards, I am clearly superior to every poster in this thread

>>28688967
The leaker also said that Rockruff evolves into a werewolf, not a coyote and a werewolf.

>>28680249
I will never get over monkeys after GameFreak created the abomination that was Infernape. Even Ambipom is better than that piece of trash.

>>28699888

it's not a monkey!

>>28691588
It's most likely not gonna work on abilities that can't be Skill Swapped.

>>28688858
So they are genetic relics that went extinct back in big Africa and only still exist in Madagascar because Fossas are shit at killing stuff then. Man we use to look close ot lemurs probably 60 million years ago.

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Passimian plus shedinja = OP

>>28680282
I believe the leaks but that still looks alot like a lemur to me

>>28699888
>Infernape
>Bad

This shit taste

>>28702624
In reality though it won't because flying and fairy are both pretty common in doubles, and against those types of moves Passimian basically doesn't have an ability.

>>28680249
It's a lemur. Kill yourself.

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>>28680561
>;)