Accelerock = Rock type Extremespeed?

>>28664856
Might just have +2 priority but I don't see it having more than 40 BP

RIP In peace Talonflame

>>28666343
>RIP in peace

>>28666937
>Here lies anon's hopes and memes.

And people think GF isn't completely aware of the competitive scene. They're always nerfinf strong shit a generation later. Every single time.

>>28666975

How will they nerf Mega Kanga though?

Talonflame got the shit end of the stick though. It's not even that good. But there's also that fish that COMPLETELY NEGATES PRIORIT MOVES

>>28666937
>Being this new

>>28667235
I think Z-moves themselves were made as a response for Megas considering the wild powers they might have. Even do I can already see that now going like how it was planned.

Now what I'm curios is how will the competitive scene live knowing that there's a new threat looming at the horizont: +4 Power-up Punch Mega Kang or 4× Rock Slide

>>28664856
Forgot to mention another small thing. The trailer itself kinda hints at this too since the move used by its enemy Cloyster was Ice Shard, so they probably wanted to demonstrate that Accelerocks priority is even higher.

STOP THE GERMAN WEBSITE SHIT

FAGGOT

>>28666937
Your newness is showing asstard

>>28667381

>Parental Bond
>If a move could hit multiple targets (including allies), such as Earthquake and Rock Slide, it will not strike twice.

>>28668424
>expecting people to know Twitch memes
>>>>asstard
underage get out

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>physical rock move
so, 75% accurate?

>>28669108
this is the internet police. I order you to delete this post.

>>28664856
>pure rock type with no boosts
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>a beast
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>b-but it may be even +2 priority it will be viable
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>28668336
or maybe a dog is just faster than a fucking clam?

>>28669108
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

FUCKING THIS

>>28664856
This form made me consider the switch from Moon to Sun.

I always wanted the dog in my team from when he was first shown.

>>28669076
>twitch memes
just get back to gaia

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>>28669472

>He?

>>28669565
I'm not gonna get a bitch, that much is clear.

>>28669665

Ha! Gay!

>>28666309
Well even with 40 bp it only needs 70 base atk with LO to ohko.

>>28669947
Everybody is getting hyped for nothing. Lycanroc will be dogshit. Priority rock move? It will definitely have low BP and even shittier accuracy. Not to mention its ability is shit, and its movepool will be barred like every rock type that isnt Ttar or Rhyperior

>>28669108

YAMARO

>>28671423
Just having Earthquake and a rock move is a nice start. That said, those abilities don't look very helpful for it. Sand Rush isn't bad but it looks like it'll already be fast so what's the point?

>>28667381
What about 4x seismic toss?

>>28671484
Sand Rush is fine otherwise, but look at it; it looks like it will have low defenses and HP. At least Excadrill had balk

Hm, I'm German and went to check it

>"Die Attacke hat eine besonders hohe Erstschlagquote."

That does indeed sound like it might be +2. "This attack has an especially high first strike rate"

>>28671484
>implying this twink dog will get earthquake

Yeah, but they gave Night Form Counter, which means it'll be in Smash.

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>>28669108

>>28667235
>It's not even that good
>Invalidated bug and fighting types as a whole
>not good
Now you know how it feels to have fairy types AND gale wings coming in on one gen

>>28671555
If Tyrogue, Pineco and Ekans can learn Earthquake, I'm not gonna question this thing getting it.

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Alright anons, if you can defend Sundoge, then at least you can justify it.

What would an ideal stat spread and movepool/set be?

>>28671652
How would we know? We don't know shit yet.

Assuming it'll have high speed and atk and low all else desu

>>28671605
If Talonflame's existence invalidates bug and fighting types as a whole then why are 7 of them + 5 grass types OU?

>>28671652

I'd like a BST similar to Arcanine, but we know that won't happen

470 BST or something around there. All elemental fangs plus bite and crunch. Dig as TM, Howl, Roar, the usual canine stuff. Rock Polish for maximum fast and as much as I want to give it stone edge because it has literal edges of stone in the fur, I'm betting AT BEST it'll get rock slide

Man, rock really does have fuck all for moves. Why is it that every rock type attack is just different ways of "throwing a rock at the opponent"?

>>28671555
Please do not call animals twinks, it scares me

>>28664856
Why are its eyes red?

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>>28671652

HP: 75
Attack: 110
Defense: 90
Sp. Atk: 60
Sp. Def: 75
Speed: 110

BST: 520

Or something like that. It's the Zoroark/Lucario of this generation, so it'll likely get a BST between 510-520.

>>28671782
So what youre saying is, an ideal set would be
-Accelerock
-Stone Edge/Rock Slide
-Ice Fang/Stat booster
-Earthquake

>>28671847
Thats not bad. Solid RU mon

Is it weird that the quadruped version is the GOOD version?

Normally GF would give all the good stuff to the two-legged one.

>>28671900

Call me razy, but I think rock/ice actually gives it all the coverage it needs, maybe can ditch earthquake for something to deal with water types

I have high doubt just a thunder fang can take care of the bulkier water types, but you never know.

Also, Houndoom and Arcanine learn Super Fang by move tutor, so I bet there is some fun fucker ythat can be done with that.

Slap a focus sash on that mofo, Super Fang + Accelerock might be a fun gimmick

>>28671928
Both will be trash anon. While 4 legs has priority, you know damn well 2 legs will be shilled out in the anime and other merchandise

>>28672015
Rock/Ice can't break through steel types.

The real question is WHO ELSE IS GONNA GET THIS MOVE?

>>28672015
Ground is essential for steels though.

>>28672057
Lucario. Can't let our furry baby boy lose his thunder just yet. And a couple other mons that have no purpose getting this move but will get it anyway

>>28672057

Nobody this generation, they explicitly state it's unique to Midday form.

>>28672100
>Nobody this game

Ftfy, anon. Brave Bird was a Staraptor sig, and then Platinum came around

>>28668336
I noticed it as well

So, which Pokemon would end up being the most devastating in competitive with this super priority move?

>>28671652
By its looks its less defensive than other rock types.
>HP: 60
>Attack: 110
>Defense: 80
>Special Attack: 60
>Special Defense: 60
>Speed 110

Stone Edge, Stealth Rock, Extreme Speed, Earthquake, Roar, Howl, Crunch, Wild Charge, Iron Head/Tail, Elemental Fangs, Play Rough

>>28672330
That's too good to be true, but lets work with that for now.

How would this set fare in OU:

-Accelerock
-SE
-EQ
-Ice Fang/ Wild Charge

>>28672330
>>28672402

>tfw kind want to try a bull sand rush + assault vest specialy defensive sundog just for the kicks
>tfw know the HP simply won't be high enough to even consider it

Why is HP so much more important than defenses when it comes to bulk?

>>28672402
Wild Charge is out there but other dogs have gotten it for literally no reason.
Iron Head/Tail because weird shit got Iron Head when it was a tutor move, and it's a rock type.
Play Rough is the biggest stretch but Stoutland has it as a level up move.
It might not get all the elemental fangs.
Everything else I'd be more surprised if it didn't get.

>>28672330
I'm hoping it'll hit 130 speed just in case Accel Rock is only +1 priority.

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>>28669076
>rip in piece is a twitch meme
>>>/r/eddit

>>28672330
>>28672402
>>28672528

Alright, hear me out.

Choice Band.

>>28671641
arcanine cant learn it :)

>>28672581

>Yfw it learns Close Combat instead

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>>28672015

>>28672528
While that'd be great Aerodactyl is the only rock type with 130 or higher speed.
Speaking of if it got Aerodactyl's stat spread and also had a priority rock move it'd probably be UU.

>>28671652
Stoutland stat spread?
but lower it attack like 20 or 30,add to speed

>>28672606
close combat actually really fit this dog

>>28672677

It'll definitely be better than a PU shitmon, anon. It's being billed like Lucario/Zoroark was.

>>28672732
but Lucario/Zoroark is rare pokemon,this dog is something tat u can get in very early game

Most importantly, what hidden ability could it have to make it competitive?
Sand Force seems likely, I could see it teaming with Tyranitar and using choice band+sand force Accelrock.

>>28672762

Lucario is literally handed to you in XY by the 3rd gym, and in B2W2 you can find a Riolu shortly after leaving the first town.

>>28671847
I'm going to bet nightdog has a degree of bulk since that's the only way counter is gonna be remotely usable, and because game freak really expects fucking counter to be an alternative to the fancy new priority rock move.

>>28672825

Probably at the cost of being slow, unfortunately.

>>28672823
i mean before the 1st gym,it just common like rattata

>>28672843
Bulky and slow still works with a recovery move. Maybe it'll get moonlight.

>>28664856
ok so, do you think that the midday version will be available in moon? i mean all you have to do is evolve him during the day right?

>moondoge gets counter
>gets Vital Spirit or Keen Eye

GF thinks this is balanced or what? As a sunfag, it saddens me that moonfags get this piece of shit.

>>28669565
HAS NO STYLE

>>28672924
yeah, i'm going to switch for this very reason. it's really disappointing too

>>28672645
I just think it'd be really lame if Talonflame could beat it by burning on the switch and alternating between Bulk Up and Roost.

>>28672867

>it just common like rattata

Do you know that yet?

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>>28669108
Oh yeah rock attacks have wonky accuracy.
>a priority with non 100 accuracy

>>28672924
Can't say I care honestly. The option to use the sun dog is always there if accelerock is not an egg move.

...I wonder can moonruff learn close combat.

>>28672971
from magazine?

>>28673027
>tfw it will be the only 40BP +1 priority with <85 accuracy

>>28673091

Your point? Ice Shard is 40BP and it's still used to deal with dragons.

>>28664856
Why would this move in particular have more damage than Aqua Jet, Bullet Punch and so on? Especially when only the German site said anything about it being extremely fast.
Why do people like setting themselves up for disappointment so much?

>>28673071

Pics? As far as I know we have no idea what the encounter rates are yet. In any event, you can still get a Riolu before the first gym in B2W2.

>>28673121
It has shit accuracy, whereas other movies of the same caliber have 100%

>>28673150
*moves

>>28671555
Nice numbers. Here is a comprehensive list of all the rock types in the game that can't shakeyquakey.

Amaura, Anorith, Bonsly, Carbink, Diancie, Kabuto, Kabutops, Lileep, Omanyte, Omastar.
I don't think we'll be adding rockdog to this list.

>>28671802
Yeah, seriously.

Signs that you might have been on 4chan too long: you refer to skinny wolves as "twinks."

>>28672843
I doubt they'd make this thing slow.

>>28671802
>>28673336


>Skinny
>Lives by itself instead of in a pack
>Brown-ish color

Huh. I feel like this could be a maned Wolf pokemon after all. Well, I know what I'm naming mine now

>>28673150
Ice shard has 100 accuracy you utter tard.

>>28671652
It'll never be 'good' as everyone wants it to be, it has too much competition from the likes of excadrill (sand rush abuse) and terrakion (fast hit hard rock) or even aerodactyl (go REALLY fast rock)
Best it can hope for is espeed but rock which gives it a niche ala talonflame but for checking the many, many things that are rock weak. Including talonbird. As far as coverage goes it actually wants a nice fire move, EQ is a given and close combat doesn't really hit the things that will be switching the fuck in to the obvious speedrock, ferrothorn, skarmory, garchomp, lando-t. You can kinda see what coverage it needs for these lads to compliment rock+ground. Ice or fire.

>>28673305
Arcanine, Ninetails, Delphox, Houndoom, Mightyena, Zoroark, Manectric, or Stoutland dont get Earthquake either. Type doesnt mean much compared to design

>>28673530
Thats the point, dipshit. Rock will get cucked again and have a sub100 accuracy.

>>28673530
Ok so

Accelerock
Stone Edge
Fire Fang
Ice Fang

Couple that with a Choice Band and it should do well

>>28673530
>>28673607
u guys forgot Bulldoze?

>>28673394

Well it has to lose something in the bargain, and I doubt it's going to be faster than Midday Form.

>>28673575
Type literally means things when it comes to design for TMs. It wont get it by level.

>>28673607
>Accelerock
>Stone Edge
Pick one.

>>28673696
No one forgot the move that's laughably weak.

>>28673530
Close Combat could do okay for Ferrothorn. Fire would be great though, Scizor is gonna have a field day with it otherwise.

>>28673575

>Thats the point, dipshit. Rock will get cucked again and have a sub100 accuracy.

Muh patterns

>>28673724
There's no need to pick one. Much like Azumarill with AJ and Waterfall, it can pick shit off with AR and wallbreak with SE. Rock/Fire/Ice has decent coverage

>>28673791
I'm working under the assumption it'll be an espeed clone since they seem to be hinting its +2 prio.
lest it be a fucking feint clone

>>28673826
Ah, alright then.

So assuming its Rock aqua jet
-Accelerock
-Stone Edge
-Ice Fang/Fire Fang/Coverage
-Ice Fang/Fire Fang/Coverage

Assuming its Rock espeed
-Accelerock
-Fire Fang
-Ice Fang
-Coverage

Speaking of rock type moves having generally having shit accuracy I don't really see the point of rock throw with 50bp anymore with its 90% accuracy compared to smack down which also has 50bp but also 100% accuracy and grounds flying types, levitating pokemon and pokemon with electromagnetism. Hell smackdown has been TM 32 since gen 5 (the gen that made TM infinite) and in ORAS you can get it in Fallabor town

>priority Rock
>moves faster than the eyes can see
>somehow will still miss

How do you miss when everything else is 3 times slower than you?

>>28674345
Easy, just add rock

>>28674345
The same way it's possible to miss a sleeping or frozen target, I guess.

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>>28669410
Underrated post

>>28664856
What is the exact phrasing from the German site? Because the English site already says it attacks before any other move, same as the game usually does for any +1 priority move.

Hopefully it's an egg move, or at least a move that Rockruff can learn through level up. I'd much rather have SonicOC with it since it looks faster and stronger than the sun exclusive.

>>28671446
shut up fake weeb

>>28675339
>I'd much rather have SonicOC with it since it looks faster and stronger than the sun exclusive.
There is no away Moondoge would outpace Sundoge when quadrupeds move faster than bipeds. Also it seems to be more defensively oriented as it doesn't mind taking hits.

>>28671484
More speed and bulk from Sandstorm seems like a pretty good deal to me. Might even run Assault Vest and get the jump on special attackers.

>>28675717
>Also it seems to be more defensively oriented as it doesn't mind taking hits.
oh boy
A defensive rock type
This always works.

>>28674345
Obviously you go so fast that you can't stop in time to make adjustments in trajectory.

>>28675780

Maybe they'll give it a lot of HO anon

We can dream

>>28668336

On the german site the move is also described to have "especially high" priority.

>>28672924

Maybe it too gets an awesome exclusive move?

Oh who am I kidding. Shadow the Edgedog is gonna be a PU shitmon thats Defensivly based with a shit HP stat.

>>28671847
>520 BST for an average shitmon

>play the night game at night to get the night dog
>it's daytime ingame

>>28673394
The trailer showed it being outsped by a presumably unboosted Cloyster using Icicle Crash, so I doubt it.

>>28678299
It was using Counter

>>28672452

You get stuff like Seismic Toss, which ignores Def/Sp. Def, or percentage-based damage like Hyper Fang.

>>28671847
>an early route shitmon having more BST than fossils

lmao

>>28669410
m-maybe the clam used shell smash earlier

>>28678299
Counter hss Negative priority

It's been shown by other mons that having a good exclusive move isn't enough to catapult a pokemon to OU

Midday doggo will be made or broken by its BST

Unless it only has 20 Atk then judging by the damage it did to Aerodactyl, no.

>>28679453
Or it has a broken hidden ability like a couple of the XY Pokemon.

See the other earlygame prioritynigger with shit BST

Anyone got the HQ images of Lycanroc's other official art poses? Not the Coro Coro scanned versions either

>>28666309
I'm looking forward to a team of fast doggos!

>>28679453
>OU
fuck off with your smugon garbage

>>28672606
Thanks for reminding me I am breeding for a hex-perfect shiny growlithe with Close Combat from a Dexnav caught 2 star potential Growlithe with Close Combat. Look for the breedegects on WT over weekends

>>28666343
>talonflame suddenly commites sudoku

>>28667235
Social services

>>28678192
>what is Magikarp
>what is Mareep
>what is Ralts
>what is Shinx
etc

>>28672924
And it isn't even Rock/Dark.

What a shitmon.

It's still a rock type move so it'll probably have shit accuracy.

>>28669108
>>28669437
>>28673027
>>28673091
>what is Smackdown

>>28671553
German here as well.
To me it sounds like it has a high chance of becoming a priority move while not always being one.
Like an inbuild quick claw.

>>28671584
Underrated post

>>28672762
>Implying you've played the game

>>28672790
Sand rush is 10x better than sand force.

Why boost your priority move by 30% when you can go fast and use stone edge, which is 150% stronger.