Are Smogon-rules dead now?

>>28663609

Yeah, sure. Okay.

We can only hope, OP.

VGC will flourish though.

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>>28663609
When do smogonfags just grow some balls. Fucking faggots get laid or something its just a kids video game.

>>28663609
There was a reason before?

@28663609
The retardation of this bait doesn't even deserve a (***).

>>28663609
>Variety
>Literally just going to be volcarona, Oranguru and dance birb

Whatever you say, anon.

>smogon mostly does singles
>new stuff is for doubles/triples
hurr

>>28663609
>only one pokemon can have instruct so everyone will pick it
>"variety"

>>28663780
No problemo, i'm following my own posts activly, and read everything for personal attention.

>>28663831
>New stuff is for doubles/triples
>Ingame fights are still primarily singles
Fuck this gay game.

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>bring 6
>pick 4

>>28663837
>Smeargel

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>>28663898

>>28663609
Why do you autists care so much? Don't use Smogon rules if you don't play it

>>28663837
>He doesnt use trace pokemon

How bad is /vp/

>>28663885
>>Ingame fights are still primarily singles
Eh, we don't know that yet. After all, the battle we did see in the trailer was a single trainer in a double battle rather than the usual two trainers.

>>28663609
> Being Smogon
> Ban all new mechanics who hurt their favorites

Et voilà.

>>28664176
Such as?

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>>28664176
Isn't the entire point of smogon to make your favorites usable no matter how shit they are?

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>>28664321
>tfw favorite is Beautifly
No, Smogon is a pseudo-elitist club of children, who make their own rules and tell others how to play.
Look at Beautiflys Strategy Dex entry ;_;

>>28664662
look at the spinda one too, theyre just memeing for lesser used pokemon because there isnt any data that useable to see what sets people use for rarer pokemon

>>28663885
Could be like Emerald where double battles were ramped up.

>>28664662
Are you being sarcastic? Because you're wrong.

What would instructs' usefulness in singles even be? Making the enemy pokemon attack or set up twice in the same turn? You sure killed smogon there, yep!

If anything, this would impact VGC far more. Double attacking Mega Kangaskhan, Double Dark Void, etc.

>>28663662
Until all the broken ubers are allowed in again.

>>28664820
i'm sure they would create limitations for this move

>>28664820
Why are some pkmn ubers?
Because there was nothing, what could deal with it, which is commonly used.
There's literaly no point in splitting pkmn in tiers now.

>>28664662
They still provide an optimal build for the thing, they just make sure you know it's weak as shit.

>>28664662


Not even Smogon can redeem some Pokemon. But who knows, F(t)U might become a legitimate tier in Gen 7 with the new pokemon and Alolan forms being added so Beautifly MIGHT actually be useful in a tier.

>>28665065
Flash, Morning Sun and Defog...
Furthermore Defog and Rivalry are illegal together.

>>28664096
>Trace
>Copying moves

>>28664662
Anon, they can't BUFF Pokemon. I'm sure they would if they could, but nobody can change in-game stats. Blame gamefreak, not them.

>>28665196
BW actually has a build. XY is some dumb shit though.

>>28664662
The article isn't funny, but Beautifly is literally unusable

>>28664662
>Providing a safe haven for your bro in NU
>Getting mad at them

If you played the normal way, mega fugg and grenigger would tear your shit up. At least in NU Beautifly can function.

>>28665259

Because there's literally, and I mean lliterally no point to use Beatifly over Butterfree. At least Dustox is immune to Toxic and can absorb toxic spikes and Masquerain can learn Ice Beam.

I would cry tears of joy if we actually got 6v6 singles in the game in random online battles and ranked battles

Why it's 3v3 I'll never know but it fucking sucks

>>28663609
>it's a person who has never played by smogon rules has a hot opinion about it episode

>>28666331
t. smogoncuck defending stealth rock with his life

Are you fucking retarded?

>>28665446
6v6 battle spot? Oh boy be prepared for some shit.

Prepare for BP cancer and anything goes + species and item clause in unranked.

Or anything goes + item and species clsuse+event and box legends banned + Alolan only + soul dew ban in ranked. Basically volturn Salamence metagame with SR suicide leads.

That's the Nintendo formats way.

>>28664745
>>28664135
I would really love to be able to challenge the Elite Four or equivalent in doubles.

>>28666832
Man I don't even care I just want 6v6 rated singles to be possible

It's not like 3v3 is more healthy

>>28663609
actually we need smogon more than ever

>>28666432
>omgon bans swagge

>>28667151
3v3 is sash BP/PRIORITY or stallfest zone.

Honestly, the moment you go into 6v6 you enter the realm of sneaky pebbles, and people will dislike sneaky pebbles in their 6v6 showcasing how much stuff have powercreeped offensively.

Just saying, idiots here bitch about SR being a smogon thing, but once battlespot gets 6v6 they will realize how this shit actually works for offensive setups.

>>28667249
So are you saying it's good we only have 3v3 rated?

>>28667249
The biggest issue with 6v6 is Baton Pass, it's not even a question.

Scolipede and Espionage would absolutely fuck shit up, nigh unbeatable.

>>28667703
It's a fast paced decent option, 6v6 gives more space to abuse stuff.

Also hazards become more important, stall gets to form a defensive backbone wich makes hazards even more important.

And win cons start to need more breathing, thus the playerbase trying to find the best one, then find ways to give it his actual breathing room.

People bitch about smogon, but once they see how this are in slightly ruled AG smogon will look like a paradise, except for idiots that expect to see an Snorlax set designed for a Primal Groudon Metagame.

>>28663780
>@28663609
>(***)
welcome to 4chan newfriend :^) is this your first visit in garbageland?

>>28664662
>"Lalalala I'm not listening to others despite the fact my favourite pokemon is vastly inferior to others."

Every gen, it's the same thing.

>the special physical split is gonna kill smogon
>the wonder launcher is gonna kill smogon
>pokemon amie is gonna kill smogon
>mega evolutions are gonna kill smogon
>sky battles are gonna kill smogon
>battlespot is gonna kill smogon

The retards on this site never fucking fail to amaze me.

>>28668230
Sorry, but nothing you mentioned affected the meta that much in the last years. It was pretty much just phases, like weather moves.
But now, we have a huge pool of mechanics and possibilities. After this, we'll get back to phase. It will start with spamming and copying boosts on everything.

>>28668643
Again, they barely affected the meta, but before the games releases, people sword up and down they would kill smogon.

Before XY, I had people swearing to me that amie was gonna kill smogon.

>>28668643
>Special/physical split, and mega evolutions.
>Not major effects to the meta.
???

I don't understand why people want Smogon dead so badly.

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>>28667857
Espionage, huh?

make your own ruleset if you hate smogon so much 2bh

also
name 1 thing smogon ACTUALLY does wrong

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>>28664662
>le ebin omgon doesnt want you to use your favorites copypaste maymay kekekekekekekekekekekekekekek

>>28669854
In my experience, welp the moderation can get awkward, other than that it is honestly a very fair system.

I love the meritocracy they have on their suspect tests, you earn the right to vote, people think it is an aristocracy but so far it doesn't come as one.

Also low ladder is toxic as fuck with their beliefs on what is supposed to be optimal.

All of these are human flaws within the usage system though.