Editing Good Pokemon Part 3: Finger-Licking Good Edition.

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I love Ghost Pokemon, and Mega Gengar is one of the better megas. At first I wasn't sure about how I felt about the 3rd eye but it grew on me. Now the only thing that bothers me about it is the color.

Aside from the pubes the original design is much better. Why do people want Gen 1 eyes on everything?

>>28606275

Old thread

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Slaking is really cool and all. I just have a problem with the line running down his forehead. I also backed the line up on his 'caveman eyebrow bumps' a little so they didn't connect on each side. I think it helps it look less like 'just design lines'.

>>28633175
>not understanding why it's colored the way it is
It has shadow tag for that reason

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>>28633463

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Luxray is great. I just don't see the point of turning his eyes red. I think they look a lot better white.

>>28632993
Blaziken looks kind of retarded now.

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>>28632993
1/3

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>>28634008
2/3

>>28634008
So true. Roserade is one of my all-time favorites but the bouquets are just a huge step down from Roselia's.

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>>28634029
3/3

>>28634033
It's pretty disappointing considering how easy it is to make it look better.

>>28632993
Why did you want it to look like a Gen 1 pokemon?

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>>28634029
You cant just remove his powersuit, bro! Now he looks like a thicc tomboy.

You just removed the key features of his concept. Too far.

>>28634045
maybe make the brown on rhyperior darker

>>28633544
Oh fuck
would train

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>>28632993
>/VP
>/vp

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Simply took away the red under his brow and the swirl on his chest.

>inb4 'THE SWIRL PREDATES THE EVO YOU FUCKER!'

I get that there are swirls in infernape's design but they exist in the realistic sports like his 'armor', which is forshadowed by Monferno's bands. putting a stylish swirl on the fur part just makes it look unrealistic.

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>>28634094
I removed 3 lines that had no business being connected. I could consider adding one line in the chest just like regular Mewtwo though.

>>28634140
I used the Rhyhorn and Rhydon colour scheme. Initially it was just as you see on Rhyperior until some anon did this edit. I edited it further and changed the scheme as requested by another anon.

>>28634174
Damn. And people say I'm nitpicking.

>>28632993
someone edit OP so he's not a giant faggot

>>28634197
You should have left the red part near the nose. It's a common trait among baboons and monkeys with the bluish skin around the eyes.

>>28634094
Give up. People in these threads would remove the blue and lines from a baboon's face if they could.

>>28634008
God damn such an improvement on an already good design. Why did they turn the roses into weird canon things???

>>28634029
I was trying to figure out how to improve on this one and you nailed it here. A little goes a long way.

>>28634045
>>28634211
I can't stand Rhyperior but this improves it a lot. I agree with >>28634140 That it might help to make the armor parts darker but I'm not sure if I would go full Rhyperior color scheme. This is crazy close to me loving it though. Which is saying a lot for Rhyperior.

>>28634236
Yeah I thought about that myself but Monferno is so far from a baboon and the way the red was there just made me think of a broken nose.

>>28634045
my god that looks amazing. the current pokemon designers truly have lost their touch when you see these edits that instantly create so much appeal

>>28634211
No, you removed the outlines of his power armor suit or however you want to call it. As i said, you removed the primary feature of his design. You are not removing "useless" lines, you are removing key features.

Take a close look at the regular mega mewteo and tell me you actually dont see the powersuit.

>>28634399
Not the guy but I actually don't see the power suit. I think that's a dumb concept and if it is the inspiration behind his design I think it is a lot better off removed.

>>28634399
>muh power suit

buddy they are 3 lines that make the design look busy. removing them only makes it look cleaner.

>>28634473
>muh cleanliness

>>28634382
It's a lot easier to make something look appealing when you have a near-complete design to start with.

Not to mention as much as it sucks, Rhyperior's design is the way it is for a reason. It turns into a turret. Making it thinner, taking away the holes in its palms and taking away emphasis from the Protector makes it look better but alters the key elements of the design. This edited version looks good but it's LITERALLY Rhydon but bigger, right down to the pose.

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>>28634473
You should've took the armor off normal Mewtwo first.
And for some reason you took away the "divisions" of the legs, which are prominent in artwork and even almost exist in 3D.

>>28632993
the eye gives it a gen I look, I can dig it
>>28633175
>>28633463
nice small improvements
>>28633886
Luxray is the x-ray pokemon so the red in the eyes supposed to represent that, I think it should be kept (also a lux-fan)

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>>28634399
The "power suit" you are refering to could have been much better if they had left the muscle look alike chest mewtwo has in his regular design. There is makes no sense as it has no clear volume and so the lines are just there without meaning.

>>28634528
The lines on the legs appear and disappear depending on the perspective. They aren't always there as his legs are connected to his body like regular legs and not just clicked there like a toy who can be disassembled. Take a look.

>>28634619
>There is makes no sense
The problems of writing while trying to make it all understandable to a certain degree. I fucked up.

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>>28634412
Here you go, i hope that helps. Sorry, im shit at this.

>>28634473
I offer you valid criticism and you start to shitpost. Dont expose your ideas publicly if you are not open to chriticism.

You didnt make it look cleaner, you removed features. Look at the picture. You removed its key features. Fuck, you actually make me angry.

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>>28634570
Fair enough on Luxray. It does kind of take away from his theme. I just feel like he could appeal to more people if he didn't have the red. .. What if his eyes were just full yellow like so?

>>28634619
>>28634715
This guy makes a point powersuit guy. If it is a powersuit like you say then on the original Mewtwo (which I think, at best looks like a some sort of hazard helmet (not the back of head connector like a tube feeding 'oxygen from a tank. Then it would do well to make it also look like part of his body. removing the awkward middle zipper in the mega doesn't suddenly make the entire concept a powersuit for you does it? I mean, if you think that's the only powersuit part then it isn't much of a them is it?

>>28634008

Holy shit I never noticed that
What the fuck

>>28634799
Its a mega evolution. Mega-X (lets call it that for now) becomes fighting, so it puts on the powersuit to make him stronger.
Mega-Y goes full savant and turns into some kind of mew-ish creature, without a suit. Makes sense, since it becomes psychic.

The cool thing about Mega-X is the powersuit, that is subtle enough to fit its design, but still let it look like a pokemon.

Sorry, im really exhausted and my english gets worse every second. I hope you can follow my logic.

I dont think it looks bad without the lines, i just think it the lines are an important part of its design and shouldnt be removed only to make it look better in your opinion.

>>28634008
>Those anarchy 'A's on Roserade's flowers

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>>28634877
It's alright.
I'm not the guy who made the edit but here, let me show you why think it's better without the lines even with your powersuit idea. On the original mewtwo elements that could imply something other than a body still seem natural and a part of him. Kind of a sleek singular body. Mega X retains that concept in a lot of things like his fists and shoulderpads, but the line down the middle doesn't seem to meld with his body it's just imprinted there. If your theory is true and it is a powersuit theme i think taking the line away doesn't ruin the theme while managing to keep it natural and sleek.

>>28634715
>You didnt make it look cleaner, you removed features.
That's not me. Also, like I explained earlier the power suit thing was almost completely removed on Mega Mewtwo X. In the original he has sort of like a muscle chest, if there is indeed a suit (where the fuck did you guys get that idea) why doesn't it retain the muscle parts in his chest and why does it lose the "oxygen thing" you mentioned? Also, it is true that the design is made to resemble a kind of boxer in training due to him looking like he's wearing a jacket, I get that, but it also removed his biological features and instead gives him lines that are just drawn there with no actual volume or reason to be. If you want a power suit then do a proper one with actual volume and explain each part of the design so it makes sense. Don't just put a line there and say it's to make it look like a jacket.

Also, tapirs and bees have a pattern on their bodies as part of fur or defensive abilities, they are features that are part of their biological growth, and while I see what you are getting at, the lines in MMX chest do not work in the same way they do for Beedril and Drowzee. In the same page and still about the power suit, if you insist on that then why didn't they just make rhyperior like the change that was presented here? It's LITERALLY a jacket as an item that was dressed up on a Rhydon, yet it was done much better in terms of how it was implemented as a suit.

>>28634877
>Makes sense, since it becomes psychic.
It's been psychic from the start.

>>28634949
Why does the neck tube seem like it's coming from his cheek instead of the back of the head?

>>28634310
>Pokemon can only be based on one species ever
>It is bad for a Fighting type to have something reminiscent of a broken nose
Are you sure you don't want to rethink your life?

>>28634949
If mega X had a design with collarbones and a little bulge in the chest like the original mewtwo it would look sleek and better without looking like a retard with a line drawn in his chest. Also, even in the original design the "shoulder/chest" piece is included naturally in his design as it works like a muscle and flows seamlessly from his back to the front, that doesn't happen inthe mega. The only parts that fit are the purple things which blend perfectly into the skin. They should have used a similar concept for the rest.

>>28634999
Fuck, I can't unsee.

>>28635023
Man it is so tiring seeing /vp jump to extremely wild conclusions. I love that most pokemon take elsements from several concepts to create one cool creature. I just genuinely don't think that he has any baboon elements other than the red which I don't think was put there to represent a broken nose or a baboon. I just think they put it there to cover the open space between the brow and the nose, which I think is fin it's normal fur color.

>>28635058
>I don't think he has any baboon elements except for the one I removed because it's a baboon element

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>>28635043
I can't tell if you're quoting the wrong person to rebuttle or if you are agreeing with me because that is exactly what I'm saying.

>>28634949
I agree with you and your points are reasonable. Just removing the line in the middle would be fine. Removing the collar of its suit looks kinda weird to me.
Maybe im just too used to the idea that it is wearing a suit or im just stubborn.

>>28634976
>Its a mega evolution. Mega-X (lets call it that for now) becomes fighting, so it puts on the powersuit to make him stronger.

I posted that earlier. That´s where i got this idea from.
The real problem i have right now is, that i have no idea who said what to whom. I never said the thing with oxygen, but he still has the tube on his neck or where ever it comes from.

Im too exhausted for this discussion right now, but i love that nobody started to insult anyone!

As i said above, maybe im just in love with the idea of the powersuit, because i think is a really neat design or maybe it just that it looks weird without the collar of his "suit". The middle line isnt much of a problem.

>>28634229
Impossible

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This one took my shitty paint skills way too long. I like the three monkeys a lot but this final evo is my least favorite of the 3. His hips are weird so I toned them down. I made his paws and feet all the same color, with zigzags like his belly separating the colors and I turned his tail the same color as his shoulder tufts, which I think benefited the design a lot.

>>28635121
Good talk anon. It's extremely refreshing to have a reasonable conversation on this board. Yeah, I am the guy who didn't make the edit but defended the edit with the side by side with all the green circles. I think I mentioned how his first from reminded me more of a hazard suit with an oxygen tube and that's where the other anon got the whole 'oxygen' thing I think.

>>28635090
But that's what everyone's saying.. Lines are bad because they aren't done right, they're just there. If they had been done right no one would have a problem. Them missing makes it look a bit bland but it seems better than the original design. That's all.

>>28635321
It looks really good! I like it so much more! If it looked like this ingame, i would have done my all monkey team, but this fucker makes me sad.

>>28633886
I actually like Luxray's eyes as they are, but if someone could do an edit on his giant ridiculous ears, that'd be great.

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If they could just take the straw away! That's the only thing holding Vanilluxe back for me! Great fusion of ice cream and icicles. Cute and cool looking (pun intended). But then they have this fucking straw. No longer looks natural. You don't even eat ice cream with a straw!

>>28633523
Even if there's a reason doesn't mean you can't alter it to see how it looks.

>>28634008
this one i can approve

the rest are shit

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>>28635718

Hey thanks a lot guy. I was toying with a second edit here so that my last edit didn't look so much like it was wearing pants. I know it's a lot of red now but I think the white tail helps make up for it. I think I like this one more.

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>>28635826
It's supposed to represent a pirouette cookie, not a fucking straw you mong.

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>>28632993
Did I do well?

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>>28635826
I always saw that as a flake.

>>28635826
What a boring evo then

>>28635950
I'm so used to the nose it's just not the same without it.

>>28634382
Fucking faggot

>>28634008
I like the idea, it just looks too busy (versus not looking detailed enough on the actual design).

Probably need to go with something in the middle, or even just make the roses similar to its head.

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male and female

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>>28635930
Well if it's 'supposed' to represent a pirouette cookie they should have used something other than a goddamn straw, complete with line and a hollow center that lets out fog. It's literally a straw.

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>>28635925

I like the first version more, because it fits better into the whole 3-monkey evo line. They all have this yellowish color. It is still way better than the actual pokemon.

>>28636012

>male version has bigger boobs

>>28635950
That's a lot better. Something about it's forehead lines always bothered me though

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>>28636028
Rolled wafers are often hollow, and many have the swirling design. Try harder, faggot.

It was a neat way to tie the design together.

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>>28636028
Here's your ice cream

>>28636028
Think about it. What makes more sense -- a straw, or a pirouette cookie? The lines on it resemble a pirouette cookie, and the center hole isn't even that wide. Some pirouette cookies can be hollow, and from a design standpoint, why would it be a fucking straw?

>>28635826
What I don't like are those shitty random crystals it has all over the body. The "arms" are fine, all others have to go.

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>>28635959
Not talking shit or anything, but how do you feel about Koffing and Weezing then. Not much changes other than growing an extra head. Just curious.

>>28636076
Well.... I don't have shit to say there... I never saw these hollow before, or with such pronounced stripes. Touche. I think I like Vanilluxe now. Thanks anon.

>>28636107
I genuinely ironically can't help but like this a lot.

OP is either baiting or needs to go the fuck back to shitty Reddit where he belongs

>>28635826
Anybody got that gif of the Vanilluxe line starting as a loli and becoming a huge tits conjoined twins?

>>28636180
Even the smiley face on the back?

>>28636107
I actually like it. Besides the color not making sense from a lore standpoint (although I guess they could say it finds a hollow tree branch or something), it helps break up the monotony of color -- which is a reason I don't think it appeals to me. The sprite looks ripped from the GB/GBC era.

>>28636225
Especially that. It reminds me of a gross moley back.

>>28634382
Shit taste

>>28636282
Shit taste

I'm so glad /vp/ isn't in charge of designing pokemon.

>>28636282
Shit taste

>>28636325
Great taste.

>>28632993
How did this picture make it into the OP? Do you guys honestly believe you've improved the aesthetics of Blaziken with that after picture? It's an abomination.

>>28636341
Shit taste

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>>28633544

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>>28635826

>straw

are you retarded?

>>28636107

I really like this. The extra dash of color is nice.

>>28636416
wtf

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I like Tapu Koko and wouldn't change much. I just wish his mohawk didn't extend down the front of his face.

>>28636878
Anon, it turns into a beak. It's based on a rooster

>>28636878
I know it is, but that is not a beak. I think you know that. The design exists so that his arm shields shut to make a rooster face.he isn't supposed to have a beak on his face though.

>>28636913
>>28636966
Whoops. Wrong post quote.

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I know a lot of people are probably gonna sperg out on my nitpicking here, and I really don't blame you. But Jangmo-o's chest tuft just needs to have a little spot where the line doesn't fully connect. I love his design though.

>>28634742
Oh god the full-yellow reminds me of Porygon-Z

>>28635321
Hey, that's actually great

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>>28635826

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>>28637644

>>28637253
I think this is the problem with most of the designs that appeared since gen 4, they just feel like assembled pieces because every part seems to be separated from the next. Designs need to have smoother transitions instead of just hard drawn lines.

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Simple

>>28637773
This. Something that also became worse is how the fur is drawn, simply compare pokémon like Arcanine and Ninetails with recent pokémon and you'll see they even cutting corners there. While it is acceptable and looks nice on some types I do not believe it should be a standard for all pokémon.

>>28637832
I will never understand why they chose to make Bibarell retarded.

>>28637773
Yeah. Mewtwo is a perfect example of how to use defining lines without making it seem unnatural.

>>28637919
Another such example is Tangela and Tangrowth. It's simply ridiculous to compare both and even the concept of the evolution is bad to be honest.

>>28637967
Gen 4 was all kinds of bad in terms of pokémon design. It was really shit.
In gen 5 they got their shit together and did some awesome designs again but gen 6 and 7 seem like a hit and miss.

>>28638028
>In gen 5 they got their shit together and did some awesome designs again
Like the ice cream and trash bag, right?

>>28638099
Ice cream looks okay here...
>>28636107

>>28636206
http://i.imgur.com/6Op2CPi.gif

>>28637832
>>28637919
On the subject of fur, Bibarel is also an example of how it could have been avoided. Why do they feel the need to make a black outline around different parts of the fur? I can understand in the eyes but the in the chest it was unecessary. Vulpix and Stoutland, for example, have no outlines and much more detailed fur.

>>28638099
I didn't say all gen 5 designs were good, did I? Still I would rather have one bad evo line and a good amount of great designs instead of the oposite, which was gen 4.

>>28638099
I actually love Trubbish and Garbodor. I like Grimer and Muk but Trubbish and Garbodor are just much better conceived versions of the whole 'trash pollution' concept.

And when it comes to the Ice cream, do you not like it because it's based on food?

>>28638143
>Dat Vanillite tho

>>28632993
>triangle eyes
Straight trash.

>>28638299
They represent different parts of pollution.

Grimer/Muk = sludge/water pollution, Trubbish/Garbodor are actual garbage.

My only thing about the ice cream ones is, why isn't their shiny form brown or pink? I'd at least make an attempt to use them if that were the case. Or hell, make the first shiny one color, then make the second form the same color but with a drop of the second color, and the third form split down the middle. I know that would probably be very taxing on the game but damn if it wouldn't be cool.

>>28638545
Yeah I know. And Like I said I like them both. I just feel like people who complain about the Trubbish line being literal garbage often times like the Grimer line which is just as literally just sludge.

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>>28638621
I get that point. That being said I'm pretty sure I know exactly why the shiny wasn't chocolate. People could argue how it looks like literal shit then. I dunno though. I would have loved a strawberry shiny.