remember riddler's leak where he hinted lunala's dex number but it got deleted afterwards?
according to some on chinese forums, the number is809
>>28606952
Then that means around 90 new Pokemon
>>28606952
>that emoji
Even their emojis have small eyes
>>28606952
So approx. 90 new pokemon. That's a number good for me.
There have been many rumors that Gen 7 has more Pokemon than Gen 6 but not by much, so 90 seems right, I was hoping over 100 but alas..
>>28607503
There may be more legendaries
>>28607526
Legendaries are basically not pokemon. I don't give a shit about them
>>28607503
Because Groudon is at the end of the gen 3 dex, right? There might be more hidden mons, but ~90 seems like a decent number if it's true.
If this is true, that means around half the dex has already been revealed. Still 2 months away from the games so I hope they slow down on showing new mons from here on out.
>>28606960
>>28607154
>90 new pokemon
That's fucking shit. I wouldn't be saying that if they didn't reveal so many though.
>>28606952
Ugh, great. So after having been handed the ENTIRE National Dex on a silver platter in Gen 6, they add basically NO new Pokémon in Gen 7? And fill the rest of the ~400 Regional Dex with nothing but old Pokémon far beyond the >50% mark. Thank you GameFreak for ruining Alola for me.
>>28606952
>around 90 new Pokemon
>around 40 already revealed
For fuck sake, I want something other than story to be a surprise
>72 New Pokemon and 48 megaevolution+2primal
>90 New Pokemon and probably 30 or more Alola Gen1 forms
Well done Jewtendo, 6 years since 3DS released, and 0 good 3DS Pokemon, and probably same shit in NX
Please they need to be 120 or so
>>28607588
>Ugh
Oh please
>>28607609
Add the obvious evolutions to the mix and we're beyond 50. We basically already know the entire Alola Dex.
>>28607612
>30 or more Alola Gen1 forms
Don't get your hopes up. It most likely won't be much more than 10.
>>28607624
For reference
Btw, he needs to update this with all the new reveals.
>empty as fuck pokedex
That's one of the possible ways SM can turn out to be dogshit. The others are complete lack of postgame, barebones region, short game, and trash story. I really hope they don't botch this.
>>28606960
Assuming there's 1-2 more mythicals besides Magearna and a trio legend behind it. It's 91-92 new Pokémon. Not the 100+ I wanted but a less bitter pill to swallow than 72.
>Thanks to simultaneous international releases, it became somewhat feasible to go in blind like when you were a kid. No more of that half a year of waiting after it came out in Japan shit.
>This is when they decided to have tiny rosters and reveal almost everything pre-release
>>28607690
That change a lot (Irony here)
>>28607577
Ultra Beasts might be separate from the 90 but count each one as a new Pokemon.
>>28607554
Don't sass me, if Lunala is number 809 that leaves 86 Pokemon before it so I highly doubt there are over 14 legendary Pokemon behind it in the dex to make over 100.
>>28607782
Solgaleo
Lunala
Maybe 3rd Legendary
Tapu Koko
Tapu ????
Tapu ????
Tapu ????
Magearna (Mythical)
Mythical (2017 Movie)
Mythical (2018 Movie)
Mythical (2019 Movie)
Wouldn't be surprised if it's true. 90ish is about what I'm expecting and the proportion of revealed pokemon would match the amount they revealed for XY. And then in place of megas there will be 20-30 Alolan forms.
>>28607782
87 before it. 809 makes it the 88th Gen 7 Pokémon.
>>28607577
Who cares how much they revealed? I'd rather have half the dex revealed from April to November than see shitty images of all new Pokemon on 4chan 3 days before the release. This way at least we get HQ artwork and descriptions.
>>28607802
Rowlet is #722 or #723 depending on Magearna
Lunala is #809
Solgaleo is #808
Tapu's are #804-807
803-723 = 80 Regular Pokemon and Kalos had 66 regular Pokemon.
>>28607802
I reckon the Tapu's will come before the main legends
Tapu Koko
Tapu ?
Tapu ?
Tapu ?
Solgaleo
Lunala
Marshadow
Magearna - Mythical usually come after the main.
There could be another 2-3 Pokemon after Magearna, but that's not the point, it still only makes around 90 Pokemon, not 100.
>>28607818
My bad, but yeah, doesn't change much of what I said anyway.
oh my fucking god, so around 90 pokemon, including mythicals, legendary, Alolan forms, andpossiblymega evolutions. Are you fucking kidding me
>>28607840
Yeah my mistake, just like Musketeers before Reshiram Zekrom, Regis and Lati@s before the Weather Trio.
>>28606952
>got deleted after
maybe he deleted it because he was wrong? i'm still hopeful for over 100 new pokemon, especially with how often we're getting reveals.
It confirms 90 or more thanks to Marshadow and an unshown mythical(or more)
At the very least it's not lol 72
>>28607853
Alola forms don't get new Dex numbers. There's 90+ new mons excluding forms.
>>28607853
90 NEW Pokemon, Alolan Forms and potential Mega's don't have seperate Dex numbers, Alolan Raichu is still number 26 in the Pokedex, just like normal Raichu.
Ultra Beasts probably won't be in the Pokedex since they're said to not be Pokemon, they most likely have their own thing depending on how many of them there are (Personally, I see there only being a handful)
>>28607861
Oh, I hope the same. But 90+ would be much better than the chucking us with <80 mons again.
>>28607888
>>28607885
Oh okay, thanks. But 90 still sounds disappointing. god I hope the dex isn't full of mythical mons.
>>28607861
Yes your right, but you forgot something. So far in September, we have only seen Jangmo-O, Lugarugan, and Type: Null as new Pokemon reveals. Thats 3 and 4 if you count that unnamed Cutiefly evo.
Last month, we got, um, Crabrawler, Tortunator, Stufful, Sandygast, Palossand, Pyukumuku, Morelull, Wishiwashi, Oricorio, Fomantis, Lurantis, Minior, Mudbray, Mimikyu, and Gumshoos. Thats 15.
I'm thinking 90 Pokemon excluding the Ultra Beasts.
>>28607639
probably more then 10, look how many megas they had in gen 6, they'll probably have roughly the same amount
>>28607823
>Who cares how much they revealed?
Gee, I dunno, because it ruins the entire surprise of a generation. It ruins one reason to even play through a new Pokemon game.
>>28607947
>they'll probably have roughly the same amount
I hope this won't be true. I feel like I'm gonna faint
the only way i'll accept 85 pokemon is if we get 30 or more alola and introduce atleast 15 new megas
>>28607969
Riddler has said no new megas I'm fairly sure. Just the old ones.
>>28607975
This makes me think Z-forms is even more realistic.
>>28607888
Trips confirm.
I'm more quality over quantity anyway. Nonetheless, only two months from today until we found out for sure!
>>28607969
>the only way i'll accept 85 pokemon is if we get 30 or more alola
Yeah and they better all not be from genwun. If they are I'll take a plane ride to Japan just to punch Ohmori in the fucking jaw.
We have 43 Pokemon revealed so far. Let's say theres 90 total. Kalos had 42/72 revealed before release. Let's say they show off another 12 before release at their current rate because Sept. has few new Pokemon reveals.
42/72 = 58.3% revealed before release
55/90 = 61.1% revealed before release
>>28607975
i think that was from the riddle where some of the things are fake? i'm hoping for more megas pls
>>28607957
Then don't look at the new information.
That seems like the easiest way to solve that problem :\
>>28607612
>>28607639
you both should fuck off
>>28607957
Coming on 4chan 3 days before release to see them all is not "surprise", it's doing the same fucking thing you've been "avoiding".
>>28607840
Riddle Man says Marshadow is one of the mythicals, just like the other Chinese leaks do.
The third legendary is represented by the Aristotle bust.
>>28607612
What about Aegislash, Hawlucha, Greninja, Braxien, Pyroar idiot.
>>28608014
There should be a third column for people who don't give a shit and want to know everything. Like me.
Full dex when? I want to plan my team dammit. I also want to know the route encounters too.
>>28608028
>tyrantrum
best pokemon of gen 6 design wise
>>28608023
What the fuck could Aristotle possible represent?
>>28608023
It'd be funny if Marshadow was a baby-ish Pokemon like Jirachi or Manaphy when everyone assumed it was big bad legendary because of it's name.
>>28608140
The study of the elements and the 5th element of AETHER. We've known this weeks.
I really hope the leak of lunala and solgaleo having a shared prevo is real. Evolving legends is cool.
>>28608170
Sure but what does "Aether" and the elements possibly represent when it comes to the Sun and Moon? An eclipse doesn't make sense and trio masters always have something to do with the 2 mons they're associated with.
>>28608206
He was hinting at The Aether Foundation.
>>28607648
>Komala does not evolve
splitevofags on suicide watch
>>28607996
i'd believe that
oh well
>>28608076
Agreed. I need to know some basic info (type, abilities, couple of moves from their learnset) about the new Pokemon so I don't get wiped in my nuzlockes.
>>28608230
Yeah, and Jangmo-o doesn't evolve at all. Nothing in the fourth row has any evolutionary relatives on this chart, and that seems unlikely to me. No prevo for Turtonator? No evos for Salandit or Wimpod? Majority of the Pokemon revealed so far being single stages? I dunno, man.
>>28607756
Please stop
>>28606960
>90 new Pokemon
isnt that consistent with that /vp/ leak guy from august where he talked about rockruffs evolution and how one was a werewolf and was rock/dark.
i believe he said there was around 90 pokemon. i dont remember if thats including the aloan pokemon or not
>>28607577
Be aware that's without taking into account the old alolan pokes due to sharing the same dex number, so that should boost the number around the 100s.
Lines up with what I've heard, although I think Riddler's #'s include the 7ish Ultra Beasts. AFAIK, the Snowman might not be real, either. Chinese leaks wrong about being able to ride every Pokemon (was told there's only a couple more), so maybe.