WHAAAAAAAAAAT?

>>28571409
what what.Ash have like,10 so he was born when she have 20.

>>28571409
>Novel

>>28571409
Ash is ten. She had a kid at nineteen. What's your point?

>>28571409
What's so novel about that?

damn, I didn't knew Delia looked like THAT

>>28571409
In Japan, anything above 30 is too old to be conventionally attractive.

>>28571409
Veronica>Sarah

>>28571531
I can tell you just make panties drop.

>>28571544
I thought it was 25 there's a whole retarded cake metaphor about it.

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Would you an Ash Ketchum?

>>28571602
>4chan
>dropping panties
smug_anime_face.png

>>28571645
No thanks I'm straight.

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>>28571647

There was a Japanese novelization of the first couple episodes that included a bit of extra information. It was written by the original director of the anime, who's also known occasionally coming up with batshit insane ideas that need to be reeled back in by the rest of the staff.

He's the same guy who writes up long blog posts about how Misty, in his head, was only traveling with Ash as a form of escapism so that she didn't have to grow up.

>>28571717
You know that the original director died years ago, right?

>>28571516

It was mostly world building stuff by Takeshi Shudo, the original writter of the anime. He explained a lot of stuff about his version of Pokémon in it. Ash's mother owns a restaurant that it's never shown in the series.

>>28571409

That's nothing, my great-grandmother got married at 13 and had her first kid at 15. Then she had 6 more.

>>28571762
Nobody cares, Ahmed.

>>28571409
Are you still allowed to think of her as a MILF if she's younger than you?

>>28571760
No, it's an alternate adaptation of the anime that contradicts it just as much as Electric Tail of Pikachu does. Where the hell does this "everything in it is canon to the anime but just wasn't mentioned in the anime" shit come from?

>>28571762
Die mudslim

>>28571913

I was just pretty sure that was the intention of that novel

>>28571868
Is she a mother you like to fuck?

>>28571984
The intention of it was Shudo wanting to write his personal take on the story. The two first novels are a heavy readaptation of the early anime, with the second volume ending with the Surge battle. He probably intended to write more as well.

>>28571918
>>28571788
>>28571762

She was a Lebanese Christian married off young because Ottoman soldiers were kidnapping unmarried Christian girls and selling them into sex slavery during WW I. Good try though.

>>28572071

I see, thanks for clarifying

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>>28571544
27

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>>28571544
>In Japan, anything above 12 is too old to be conventionally attractive

There you go anon. Fixed that for you. Just look at their birthrate.

>>28571747
Yes. Same guy.

>>28571409
From Takeshi Shudo's novelizations of the anime, basically.

Delia is the owner of Pallet Town's only restaurant known as 'Pallet House', which she inherited from her mother after she died.

She wanted to become a model when she was younger, but couldn't due to having to help take care of the restaurant. Her father was a loser trainer who disappeared, and she got together with a traveling trainer who got her pregnant and then left.

Delia couldn't live her dreams because she both had to deal with the restaurant AND raise her son Ash.

Meanwhile, Ash was bullied in school because he never knew his father, and was often a loner. However, he did manage to play on his school baseball team, which is why he always threw his Pokeballs like they were baseballs

Ash, at the start of his Pokemon journey, was 10 years, 10 months, and 10 days old, since Pokemon trainers start their journey in Pallet on the April following their 10th birthday.

This means that for the majority of the Kanto saga, after the 9th episode, Ash would have been 11 years old, and even possibly 12-years-old by the time the Indigo League happened since you can practically see a year's worth of events go by. Adventure starts in the spring, deals with the summer months, fall and winter (And even christmas), New Years, the Princess Festival based off a real Japanese holiday in February, etc.

The novelizations are neat.

Pokemon is basically a post scarcity society

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>>28572305
Huh, damn.

>>28571717

the shudo episodes were the best

back when even filler episodes were enjoyable

>>28572305
That sounds actually interesting

>>28571717
>comng up with batshit insane ideas that need to be reeled back by the rest of the staff
And look how the staff comes up with even more shitty ideas than him, no wonder the series is such a joke now

>>28572305
>Meanwhile, Ash was bullied in school because he never knew his father, and was often a loner

DON'T BULLY ASH

>>28572305
This little section of info makes Ash a better character than any of the directors could in twenty years. Why don't we have novel instead of the anime?

>>28572305
So did the trainers that got Charmander and Bulbasaur get fleshed out?

>>28572279
>>28572167
>>28571603
>>28571544

It's 25. Kurisumasu Keiki. Christmas Cakes.

Cuz no one wants Christmas Cake after the 25th.

>>28571531
Go back to tumblr you faggot.

>>28572305

>Her father was a loser trainer who disappeared

That would explain why ash always lose the leagues.

Loser in the DNA

>>28572305
>she got together with a traveling trainer who got her pregnant and then left.
Ash's dad confirmed for black?

>>28572305
You know you did something wrong when something like this made me like Ash more then 20 years of continues filler anime.

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>>28572305
>that one paragraph of text has more character development on Ash than the entirety of the anime series

Professor Oak's really young, too

>>28572110
>Lebanese Christian
So basically, a muslim

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>>28572305
>Ash was bullied in school because he never knew his father, and was often a loner.

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>>28572305
>Deadbeat trainer of a father
>Get knocked up by a traveling trainer
>He leaves
>Sacrifice your dreams to raise your son
>He leaves too
I didn't ask for this

>>28572305
>Ash, at the start of his Pokemon journey, was 10 years, 10 months, and 10 days old
That's a mistranslation. It's from a paragraph where his mom says "You've been my son for 10 years, 10 months, and 10 days", and whoever translated that didn't know that "10 months and 10 days" is a Japanese euphemism for pregnancy. It's just a poetic way of saying "you're 10 now".

>>28572451
Well shit, man. I want cake after the 25th. Gotta go over to Nippon and use my somewhat rusty Japanese to pick up older women.

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>>28572801

>>28571717

>He's the same guy who writes up long blog posts about how Misty, in his head, was only traveling with Ash as a form of escapism so that she didn't have to grow up.

That makes perfect sense.

>>28573184
>Blue is 10
>Oak was 37 when Blue was born
>Assuming Blue's mom was 20
>Professor Oak had kids at the age of 17

>>28573229
He's 11

>>28572305
>It happened one night.
>In the darkness, a small light was glowing.
>Pop …
>There was a little noise, like an explosion in the air.
>Then, a creature is born.

>Meanwhile, elsewhere …
>Pop …
>Pop …
>Pop …

>Those creatures are born, one after the other.
>All these creatures were of different sizes and shapes.
>Some of these were like some we know.
>But in fact, were completely different from any other
>creature that ever existed in the world.

>Like humans, who after a long time of evolution, became different from any species of monkey.
>Each species in the world descends from creatures that already existed. But these creatures were different …

>Suddenly, one evening …
>Pop …
>Pop …
>Pop …

>They appear as they are, in ways we can not recognize in our reference books.
>Then people called these creatures “Pocket Monsters”.
>Why are Pocket Monsters in our world? Trying to explain this mystery is as difficult as explaining the mystery of human evolution.

>– “Introduction to the Pokémon study.
>by Yukinari Ookido (Samuel Oak)
>Pokémon study Professor (Celadon University).

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>>28573092
Good luck my friend.
Really, I mean it, get that cake and eat it too.

>>28571544
>In Japan
yeahsure

>>28573229
And Daisy is older than Blue

>>28573229

If you're pretty much an adult in Pokemon by age 10, why are people so shocked that people get married and pregnant by their teens in the series?

>>28572873
kek

>>28573358
Let's say Daisy was 14 in Gen1/FRLG
>Oak became a grandfather at 33
>at the very least, both he and his son/daughter had a kid at 16/17
Teen pregnancy seems to be a problem in the pokémon world as well.

>>28573426
10 year olds are adults apparently, meaning marriage at 10 is a norm same with pregnancy.

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>>28572305
>We'll never get this development in the show
JUST

>>28573426
could also be that the pokemon earth just rotates slower than ours so their year is longer and thats perfectly normal
would also explain how ash has stayed 10 for nearly 1000 goddamn episodes
but then that would also mean that hes not actually a kid, just a manlet

>>28571471
You would use "was" in this context not "have"

>Brock’s mother, in fact, married and divorced several times because she had problems with the Pewter Gym. Brock’s father left home because he wanted to become a Pokémon trainer and the woman tried to manage herself the gym, task that, however, wasn’t easy at all.

>There were strict rules, such as the one for which after 3 consecutive defeats, the Gym Leader is exonerated from his role.
>For this, many times, challengers were corrupted by the gym leaders. Moreover, the costs were high and the government’s support was not enough. She remarried several times, but all her husbands ended up running away, unable to bear this responsibility. Brock’s brothers are actually the children of all these husbands.

>When Brock got his license of gym leader, the mother ran away from home leaving a letter: “I had too many successors (perhaps intended as sons). Since my duty was done, from now on I want to enjoy my life”. Unfortunately, the real Brock’s father didn’t came back and the boy was forced to give up his dream of going on a trip because of his family, although the brothers encouraged him to leave home because they felt guilty for him.

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>>28571645
No, but I would a Candice.

>>28573776
Doesn't that mean in games like BW you put gym leaders out of their jobs since you, Cheren, and Bianca all get a badge at the same time?

>>28573837
Game and novel story logic are different.

Hell even in the anime. You're almost expected to lose sometimes as a gym leader considering how the leagues look at end of season in the pokemon anime. I think there's typically at LEAST 64 if not around 128 trainers in the leagues.

That means gym leaders are probably losing every few days.

>>28574190
One of the better things Origins did was establish gym leaders have teams ready for their opponent's skill level.

>>28574236
B2W2 established that, and it's pretty clear GF treated it as something you were supposed to assume anyway.

>>28574272
Even in BW1, the first gym leaders you encounter tailor the challenge to the trainer.

>>28572493
ash used celebi powers to fug her own mother

>>28573837
Key word is consecutive defeats. They may have won in between battles which reset the streak

>>28572470
Someone TRIGGERED

>>28573229
US and Japanese manuals for RGBY say that Blue is the same age and height as Red, Red himself is 11.

Only the UK manual says he's 10, and the anime is the one that made up the rule that you go on your journey at 10, when in the game universe you can start at any age.

>>28572305
So does Lt. Surge tell him there is nothing to be ashamed of in not having a father being a military guy, or is he a jerk like his main anime counterpart?

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>>28572920
>>28572430

>you will never comfort ash after gary says smell you later
>ash will never dote on you
>ash will never get over possessive
> you will never get to see ash's face after you tell him you hate him , his whole world destroyed
> you will never see him grovel and beg for you to forgive him
why even live

I call bullshit on that. Plus, that was only the novel. She's probably 30 something in the anime.

>>28571409
Is she a birthdaycake?

>>28575147
Plus you see 6 year old trainers in the anime all the time. The "you need to be 10 to train Pokemon" rule only applies to Max and Bonnie.

>>28572305
are there english translations of the novels?

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>>28572989
You would think father-figures would stick around for their kids, be respectful parents, etc. etc.

Norman is literally the only father figure any of our protags have.

I get the feeling that if you're a successful trainer, you get to hang out with your kid in some way or form. Otherwise, you end up as a deadbeat like Ash.

>>28572989
>>28578007
One of the original writers for the anime put out a book with a lot of left out lore, such as that trainers who aren't successful bring shame to themselves and their families and will often leave home. It happened with Brock's dad if you'll remember.

>>28578082
Oh it was this guy that >>28571717 mentions I believe

>>28571544

Not true. Like every society there is an emphasis on looking young and attractive, but there isn't a cutoff point at 30 at all. I don't know if you're just parroting what someone has told you online but in my experience living in Japan I've never heard that sentiment, most girls have a lot of respect for attractive 30+ year olds.

In Japan age 30 is still considered young. Don't expect to hold a position of any authority before you're 30 in Japan, 30 year olds are considered spring chickens in the workplace, it's once you're reaching 40 that you can start being given promotions, a lot of bosses here are in their 90s/100s.

>>28572451
>>28573092
>>28571603

'Christmas Cake' is really old Japanese slang from like the 80s, you don't hear anyone use it now. If you used it most people would think you're really uncool or learned your Japanese from some lecherous old guy in a Pachinko parlour.

>>28578148
why the fuck do people still work in their 90s/100s holy shit

>>28571747
along with the series, yes

What really blows my mind is Delia had SEX at one point; can you even imagine it?!

>>28578256
That's one of many problems with Japanese society. Old men don't like to retire if they don't have to, so they clog up most positions of power in business. It's really hard to get promoted as a result.

>>28578256

It's not common for the average person to do that, but bosses and CEOs still do it. Japan's population is older as you probably know and most stay in good health for longer than westerners do.

Go to any busy ward of Tokyo at night on a Friday and you'll see ancient-looking old men drunk as hell, tie around their head being guided into expensive company cars by a couple of slightly less-drunk assistants, it's kind of funny actually.

If you're the owner of a company then I guess there's a sense of duty in running the company right to the end.

>>28578432
why do they live so long?

>>28578464
They consult the spirits of the trees and earth daily and request that some of their longevity be shared.
There was record of one man who happily lived to 180, and his secret was the wisdom and power of an ancient waterfall in the forest near his home. Every day he would take the short walk out to the waterfall and ask it for longevity and to be as strong and ever flowing as the water.

>>28578464

I don't think there's any real clear answer for that. Genetics, Diet, Lifestyle...a combination of all three. I've got my own theories, but they're not particularly interesting and not really scientifically proven.

>>28578256
One of the substitute teachers at the High School I used to assist at was 93

>>28578464
Nipponese Biotechnique

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>>28572305

>Meanwhile, Ash was bullied in school because he never knew his father, and was often a loner. However, he did manage to play on his school baseball team, which is why he always threw his Pokeballs like they were baseballs

Fuck.

>>28575385
WHICH FUCKING PART OF 'DON'T BULLY ASH' DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND.

>>28578315
Many times since puberty, yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urtiyp-G6jY

>>28572305
what about the bit with Brock where it explains he falls for attractive women so quickly because he's subconsciously looking for a surrogate mother to take care of all his siblings

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>Ash gets bullied as a kid
>This is why he loves Pokemon so much
>They fill the void left by his friendless background and not getting to Spend enough time with his busy mother who runs a business all by herself
>Brock and Misty were probably his first real friends.
this hurts my soul

>>28572305
Shit that's pretty cool.

>>28579429
He and Samurai departed understanding each other at least

>>28579081
>His two main focuses are Jennies and Joys
>Firm structured protectors and Motherly caregivers respectively
shit, that works really well

>>28572305
>We'll never get this in the main series

>>28579429
Retconned the fuck out. He was helpful to Serena.

>>28579572
Speaking of the pokemon camp
>Oak probably Reached out to Delia after hearing Garry talk about Ash and how he was a loner
>Ash was solely interested in going because Pokemon
>The kids from his school bullied him, causing him to run into the for forest to cry, only for him to meet Serena.
>When they get back they barely interact for the rest of the time, Serena because she's shy and Ash because the kids who bully him made fun of him for hanging out with a girl.

>>28579711
>We will never get a series of young Ash bonding with Pokemon and getting bullied
>We'll never get an episode where he tries to befriend a dangerous pokemon only to get hurt, and the fallout this causes when Delia finds out and rightfully flips her shit.

>>28571409
Some people get started earlier than your parents, OP. Shocker.

>>28579429
I want to raise Ash as my wife's son. Imagine how strong he could be with the power of friendship + asspulls + smogonfag knowledge.

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>>28579818
why is everything so horrible?

>>28579711
I wonder if Ash spent a lot of time at Oak's Ranch?
it could explain why Gary had such a strong antagonistic streak against him, feeling Jealous that the weird loner kid got to spend so much time hanging out with HIS grandpa

>>28572354
No shit sherlock, there's monsters running around everywhere that produce water, fire, and electricity out of fucking nothing.

>>28572305

>>28578527
I would remove genetics as they start being affected by western issues when they adopt western lifestyle.

>>28578527
Im interested in hearing your theories anon. They might have some weight to them.

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>>28571544
>In Japan

>>28573713
The sun only dictates how time is read, not time itself you fucking idiot

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>>28573188
Ash is a youth fountain, you don't age as long as you stay near him

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>>28572494

>>28580315
>Stats based off surveys given to losers who failed at fishing in the socially ept people's gene pool
Kek

>>28580315
It actually makes sense that they would find younger women better looking so much that even in west many of those models in perfume and other form of advertisement are teenagers.

This doesn't means that this is the main factor in forming a relationship,

>>28580367
>t. spinster

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>>28572167
motherfucker looks a little bit like keith flint

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>>28572494
Ash does is darker than the average person in Pokemon, his mother included.

>>28572305
Where can I find the rest.

>>28578315
She's beautiful, wouldn't surprise me if she's had tons of sex.

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>>28571717
I doubt it'd be possible to find said book I suppose? I'd love to see a summery of it, or if its translated to read through it.

>>28578251
Even if you were literally asking about Christmas Themed cake?

>>28578315
No, she is pure.

>>28581307
this

>>28580486
pitch black hair too. complexion might be from being outside most of the time tho

>Ash and Gary used to be closer as kids
>Ash grows up without a father figure and is bullied at school
>Gary tries to cheer him up and teases him because his father is ??? And all he seems closer to his grandpa and his research
>Ash resents Gary for at least having that much compared to him and feels both pitied and bullied by him, causing him to withdraw from Gary and regard him as a rival rather than a friend
>Gary decides he's going to be a great trainer like his grandpa was and is determined to run laps around Ash at every opportunity
>Gary travels alone outside of the times he's with his cheer squad which he worries only care about him because he's the grandson of the famous professor/trainer Oak
>focuses on the logical side of the journey: catching mons and battling efficiently
>starts getting rattled by bad encounters like Giovanni and his league battles
>Ash is doing fine and has finally made friends, making Gary jealous, slightly lonely, and a bit happy for him
>starts realizing the more emotional side to pokemon training and does things for the adventure rather than the results and notoriety
>acts a bit nicer to Ash despite Ash still being a bit icy about the past
>eventually duke it out at the Johto league
>Ash beats Gary who realizes he only did all of this because he was hurt by Ash and wanted to beat him at his own dream
>really just wanted to be like his grandpa
>him and Ash restart their friendship and come to terms with the past

>>28572305
>Meanwhile, Ash was bullied in school
and now he will be bullied in Alola

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>>28572305
>She wanted to become a model when she was younger, but couldn't due to having to help take care of the restaurant. Her father was a loser trainer who disappeared, and she got together with a traveling trainer who got her pregnant and then left.

>Meanwhile, Ash was bullied in school because he never knew his father, and was often a loner. However, he did manage to play on his school baseball team, which is why he always threw his Pokeballs like they were baseballs


Ash likely grew up hating his father for leaving his mother, his grandfather as well.

The reason Ash returns home after each season is to show his mother that he will always come back to her and that he will never truly leave her even if he leaves for a long amount of time. Fucking Ash, I want him to be happy. I want Delia to to be happy. Why must this happy kid and loving mother suffer?

>>28572305
now I wish this guy was still alive writing the show

>>28573268
>Oak is a creationist

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>>28582081
>>28581940
>>28579818
>>28579711
>>28579429
>>28578648
>>28578007
>>28575385
>>28572989
>>28572920
>>28572558
>>28572432
I-i didn't come here to feel those feels
Really...

Why this star-crossed kid can't finally end his journey, as a champion, with someone to love, with pokemon to care for, with memories to cherish, with legacy to pass...

Shit, I hate SM even more now

>>28582081
I think they're pretty happy in the show all things considered. Ash gets to go on his adventure making friends and Delia gets more and more proud of her son as he grows, he also comes home often enough and she has some companionship in Mr. Mime and is pretty good friends with Prof. Oak.

Even in the context of the novel universe's backstory, they way the anime's plot has progressed has made it so none of that's a problem. Even if Delia couldn't live her dream, lots of parents live through that, it sometimes comes with the territory of being a parent.

>>28571409
Teen mom

>>28578148
You can't measure Japanese sex life standards from your point of view as a foreigner. Also, you said it yourself: "most girls have a lot of RESPECT for attractive 30+ year olds".

Do these japanese novelizations actually exist? I'm googling it and can't find anything.

>>28582869
They do, I've found a few on Amazon. Look up: Pocket Monsters the Animaition.

https://www.amazon.com/s?search-alias=stripbooks&field-isbn=4094405410

>>28582914
Yeah, I just found it after searching the anime writer's name. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Umeko/Shudo_novelization_tidbits

>>28582932
I'm tempted to buy the volumes even though I'm unable to read it, I'm really interested in seeing if anyone would be willing to translate it.

>>28582869
Everyone just assumed there wasn't anything in them that wasn't in the show, so these things completely flew under the radar until a couple of years ago. That's why there's so little English documentation about these.

>>28571409

Ash’s father is a Pokémon Trainer currently traveling in a faraway land. Delia knew him at the Pallet House, when she was 18. The two fell in love and their relationship became rapidly stronger, so that within the same year they got married. Hovever, soon after Ash’s birth, he left Pallet Town and never returned. Delia was only 19 years old. In the following years after her husband’s disappearance, several men asked her hand in marriage, but she refused them all, because she never wanted to divorce from Ash’s father.

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>>28572305
Man that sounds awesome. Now I really want to read this thing.

>>28572305
Rip Shudo, if only he was still alive and execute meddling didn't get in the way, the show would've probably been different than it is now.

>>28572440
Didn't they both drop out of their Pokemon journeys?

>>28571409
So Della just born ASH when she was 19 years old, which was normale in times when she was 19.

>>28571409
Sliding timeline means she and Ash do not necessarily age at the same rate.

Recall that Ash has canonically spent more than one year on his journey, yet has also canonically not aged (he is 10 both before and after over one year has passed.

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Let's be friends forever

>>28573026
Yeah, the euphamism is based on the old lunar calendar which had 28 days per month. So that's 308 days. Average pregnancy is 280 days, and since in Japanese culture they tend to count the start of pregnancy from the end of the woman's last menstural cycle, that adds a few days.

>>28573713
>spoiler

Kekt way harder than I should have.

>>28578464
high amount of minerals and vitamins in the food.

>>28572430
>DON'T BULLY ASH

nigga, all of /vp/ bullies Ash daily.
sadly, we have good reason to bully such a retarded twerp manlet.

>>28583490
Ash is just a poor fictional kid who can't stop being fucked by real life executive dumbasses who refuse to let him advance.

>>28583726
you have somewhat of a point. but why do normies in the anime make it easy for Ash to advance though? does he really have it tough?
I think James, Jessie and Meowth have much harder lives desu and the normies all hate on them.

>>28583799
Are you really asking me to fathom why normies think the way they do?

>the main characters all suffer from some level of escapism or following of dreams as a coping mechanism for their shitty lives
>Ash wants to grow up and be a pokemon trainer like his dad to surpass him and potentially convince him to come home when he wins. Losses are discouraging but to give up is to end up a loser like his father, and he doesn't want to end up that way
>Brock wished to go out on a journey but had to stay home and take care of his siblings because his father abandoned the family and his mother couldn't manage to keep her life straight without him helping the gym. Brock had to carry the responsibility of raising his siblings and keeping a gym operational in order to do right by his parents despite the fact they were no longer around. This leaves him the most grounded individual in responsibility but broken as a result of his mom going through men and eventually leaving, with him constantly trying to replace her with a girlfriend. He never wants to be as undependable as his parents though.
>misty convinces herself that she's following Ash because he destroyed her bike but often forgets about it except when the reason she's journeying is brought up. The dub pushed a crush into the picture, but in truth Misty didn't want to deal with being put upon to run the gym while her sisters fucked off and got away with whatever. She had an inferiority complex and self-doubt that gradually wore down through her journey. Finally having her bike replaced and being told to come back to the gym scared her because she wanted to still stay away, those fears lingering, but she eventually realizes it's okay to grow up and accept responsibility, and that you cannot escape forever.

>>28583876
>Jessie grew up poor with her mother who was constantly out on Team Rocket missions, and eventually raised in an orphanage when her mom died trying to catch Mew in South America. Jessie constantly tried different career paths but nothing would work out and she could not escape her depressing past. She put everything into her Team Rocket training but was very anti-social to the other members.
>James was raised in a wealthy life where he had no say in his future. His only way to rebel was to flee home and end up in Team Rocket. He's too nice and incompetent and generally out of his league in what he does, but he cares a lot and is willing to put in the work as a team player.
>Meowth grew up on the streets and constantly tried to impress a female Meowth with his tenacity only to be spurned. Eventually he decided to sell himself as a valuable asset to Team Rocket and got placed as a member of Jessie and James's team.
>The Rocket Trio grow close through their journeys, fighting and then commiserating about their losses. They cheer eachother up with the idea that completing missions and snagging pokemon will net them promotions, but only so they can ignore the reality that they're expendable grunts that Giovanni could care less about. They have a sense of honor and their gumption causes them to achieve great feats when they're truly focused on stopping someone (displayed when they take down other teams), but ultimately they can't find a life that suits them and allows them to remain together, having become codependent on eachother. They've escaped but there's no grand destination other than bothering a kid and his mouse.

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Now do you understand why I wanted you Ash to win the league so badly? He's earned it, the poor guy. He's earned it a hundred times over.

>>28583887
>could care less

dude, it's "couldn't care less". it's a phrase.
but yeah, deepest lore so far.

>>28584115
>He's earned it a hundred times over.

unevolved manlet pokemon such as Ash's don't win any league.

Before post modernism women actually had kids at their prime

>>28572305
Holy fuck. They should have let this guy run the whole anime's story by himself. This is great.

>>28581774
Yeah its really just the shounen tan young boys in animes have alot.

>>28572305
Sounds like my dad ;_;

>>28573763
Actually you'd use "is", you retarded faggot.

>>28580315
In the right chart "men" can be changed with "women"
No one likes saggy breasts, saggy butts, doublechin and all the fat and cellulite they grow everywhere

>>28584187
His Kalos team was fully evolved, barring Pikachu. Stop talking out of your ass.

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>>28579818

I just wanted to say that I would like to fuck Delia.

>>28584441
Both, actually, considering he used have twice incorrectly which should be replaced with 'is' and 'was' respectively.

>>28572279
I just noticed she doesn't button her pants. How lewd!

>>28578082
That puts a much bigger emphasis on "trainer" and "regular Pokemon owner" As it makes it clear trainers are a position you earn and have to work to succeed in, rather than just hanging out on the road waiting for someone to pass by so you fight

>>28579711
But Ash didn't run off to cry, he was looking for a Pokemon in the forest.

>>28575385

DON'T

BULLY

>>28571471
Wtf is wrong with you?

ITT: Nostalgia goggled Kanto cancer talks about shit they don't know shit about. Try watching XY next time, genwunners.

>>28584720
Pokemon are his coping mechanism, Anon. He was looking for Pokemon to help him not be sad from being bullied so hard.

>>28571409
She's a fucking whore

>>28584946
XY sucks, why recommend any season at all?

>>28572305
Was it said in this novel that Pokeball got invented because of Primeape?

>>28572305
>>28579429
>>28579711
>>28581940
and people say deepest lore in children's shows is a bad thing

>>28571409
>my mom had me when she was 19
I see no issues here

>>28583876
>but she eventually realizes it's okay to grow up and accept responsibility, and that you cannot escape forever.
that hit me close home

>>28582970
They're kinda obscure in Japan too, I don't think they sold very well. Shudo's writing is also really... tryhard and the novels aren't written with kids in mind.

>>28584976
>XY sucks
Spot the genwunner too fucking stupid to follow the plot and understand the subtle intricacies of a fucking kids show.

>>28572920
PUNISHED SATOSHI

>>28583159
>>28572305
>>28572989
>>28572432

There's even more.

One of the endings Shudo envisioned for the anime was Ash giving up after either the League, or the encounter with Mewtwo, realizing that being a professional trainer is too out of a kid's league, forgetting his dreams and coming home to get a job.

Shudo didn't really like the idea of Pokemon, especially with the scarce plot outlines he was given, and wanted to subvert the whole idea of a heroic kid journey.

>le deep dark past suddenly makes characters good

It's like I'm really on /v/.

>>28572493
Ash still managed to compete in professional leagues and be in Top-whatever of multiple regions. "Loser trainer" is someone who fucks up even before getting to the official League tournament, but is too ashamed to see his family after wasting time, like Brock's parents.

(Though you could say Brock's mom was marginally successful and even got approval to be a Gym leader on her own)

>>28582932
>Apparently Satoshi spent ten days researching poses to come up with his trademark "get daze!" pose.

And stopped reading right there. This all just comes up as headcanon bullshit of some George Lucas tier autist.

>>28573776
That didn't end up being canon for either anime or the games though. The 3 defeats part, I mean.

>>28583887
>>Jessie grew up poor with her mother who was constantly out on Team Rocket missions, and eventually raised in an orphanage when her mom died trying to catch Mew in South America. Jessie constantly tried different career paths but nothing would work out and she could not escape her depressing past. She put everything into her Team Rocket training but was very anti-social to the other members.
>>James was raised in a wealthy life where he had no say in his future. His only way to rebel was to flee home and end up in Team Rocket. He's too nice and incompetent and generally out of his league in what he does, but he cares a lot and is willing to put in the work as a team player.

Funny how James ended up being the most competent battler of them all, and also the only one to insist on staying loyal to Team Rocket during the annual "Trio break-up" episodes, while Jessie was ready to run off to be a coordinator and Meowth to his noodle shop.

>>28586505
You weren't kidding.

>Masara Town[Pallet Town] being a small rural town, there aren't many jobs, so children, upon coming of age, generally become Pokemon Trainers. There aren't many notable trainers from Masara, though - in the monthly "Top 10,000 Trainers" charts in magazines, trainers from Masara linger around the bottom.

>Over a hundred years ago, there was one notable trainer from the town - Ookido Masara, who made it to the 931st spot in the charts, the best placing from their town ever. He was honored as a hero, and the town was renamed "Masara Town," having been called "Masshiro Town" previously.
>The Ookido family is now famous in Masara Town; Professor Ookido Yukinari is Ookido Masara's great-great-grandson. Yukinari also has two older brothers, the oldest of whom is the mayor of Masara Town; the middle brother was (past tense??) the town's postmaster.

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>>28586671
Realization:

>Ash became the greatest Pallet Town trainer just by getting into Top 16 while being a little kid.
>Gary was incredibly butt-blasted not JUST because he performed worse than Ash did in Indigo League, but because he couldn't surpass his ancestor.

>Ash is now a runner-up in Kalos
Satoshi Town when?

>>28582081
This is beautiful. Thanks for the tears

>>28574272

GSC did it first, since the Kanto gyms are too strong for a rookie Kanto trainer to beat. There's also the gym leader rematches.

>>28586465
>Shudo didn't really like the idea of Pokemon, especially with the scarce plot outlines he was given, and wanted to subvert the whole idea of a heroic kid journey.

Scary. His strongest point is his determination.

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>>28582720
>>28582081
>>28581940
>>28579711
>>28579429
>>28578007
>>28572920
>>28572305

Ash's reaction to Delia's words in Episode 2 is suddenly much darker.

>Delia: "You're already in Viridian City? It took your father four days to get there when he started Pokemon training. Oh, he'll be so proud. You're the apple of his eye."
>Ash "Yeah, a rotten apple."

>>28586821
Guess who wrote that episode.

>>28571409
>Having children at 19 years old.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

>>28572305

WHAT WENT FUCKING WRONG

>>28580315
are there stats like this for other countries?

WHERE DO I READ THE NOVELS? DOES ANYONE HAS A LINK? HOLY SHIT

>>28587271
The translation of the first novel is available here (It's still going on, we are at chapter 3 now)
https://pokemonthenovel.dreamwidth.org/380.html

So is his dad Joseph Joestar?

>>28572305
A lot of what Shudo established and proposed would be lost on the children watching the monsters battle and collecting the cards. Great as an adult, but as a child, it'd go right over our heads. The tidbit on being an adult at ten stuck with me more than anything.

If we go by Takeshi's guidelines, there were likely grandparents in the anime who weren't even forty at the very least. Old people were literally great-great grandparents.

>>28586505
Have you ever seen the Johto fillers he wrote? A bunch of them revolve around people sitting around discussing philosophy. He was kind of the equivalent of an art graduate who gets put in charge of a children's play, then fills it up with "deeper meaning" because he wishes he were working on something else.

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>Ash going to school in SM is just him not wanting to end up a nigger like his father

>>28587567
I completely agree. Shudo episodes were really deep and mature. I just rewatched "The poke spokesman" and it was very nice to see a man who lives questioning himself if what he believes his true or just a lie to make himself feel special in some way.

>>28572305
Damn

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>>28572305
Well......that sad, kind of makes me like ash a little bit more now.

Lets say they were to bring that up in the future episodes would it be too dark for a kids show? Its not like kids would understand it but would parents complain if they saw that?

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>>28586828

>>28583257
>he is 10 both before and after over one year has passed.
Not only is he ten, but his 11th birthday is in, roughly, 52 days from the beginning of the 1st episode.
He wakes up on the 10th morning, 10 months after his 10th birthday. In April, a 30 day month followed by a 31 day month. This means, at the earliest (April 10th), there are 20 days left in the month and 51 until the last day of may. June 1st then would be Ash's birthday, but in reality it could be almost any other date around then as long as that still puts him at ~10 months before April

>>28573776
So you mean to say, Brock's mom is a turboslut who not only repeatedly married (understandable), but had kids with NINE DIFFERENT MEN.
holy shit that woman needed to learn to keep her fucking legs shut a few years earlier.

>Since my duty was done
No more wifely duties and certainly no more woman's duties for her thank god.
I dont know If I pity this woman for having such a miserable, lonely life, or if I should scorn her for being a terrible person

>>28572305
No Dad No Dad!
Satoshi is a No Dad!

>>28584946
you seem upset

>>28588545
That episode is really feelgood. Any time Team Rocket do kind things you get a great episode, I find.

>>28589644
True, also we know that Shudo really loved the Team Rocket trio. He had also more creative control over them since they were not the main characters (as a matter of fact their stories are the most deep and developed of the anime)

>>28573776
Wait is this cannon? Is it really like that in the anime? I thought we saw Broke's father in one of the special episodes?

>>28589845
In the XY anime Jessy finally found love but the episode ends with the guy already having a girlfriend which looked force just to make Jessy return to team rocket. I wish they would stop with the rocket thing its kind of annoying and really they are not exactly villains in a way James already showed that he loves pokemons and doesn't see them has tools like the other rockets. Hopefully one day we could see a final episode with them just quitting team rocket and just settling somewhere.
Hell I remember reading something a anon suggested here that said since Sun/Moon had a focus on bottle caps they could have made James be ash's male companion (since he has that bottle cap collection thing that they keep bringing up each season) that would have been interesting to see.

>>28590326
Lola is an incredible mess of continuity tangles.

You can make the above work in terms of canon but it seems like it'd be weird as she doesn't have squinty eyes- Brocks siblings all do, so they're *obviously* Flint's kids.

The dub further confuses matters by having it say she died when she later turns up alive and well. It's possible, though (and, for the sake of continuity, presumable), that Flint was lying about that in order that Ash not think Lola was a bad person for running away- though I'd love to have seen Brock's reaction to Ash offering his condolences.

What is most important, though, is it's unlikely Shudo or any of the original staff would have ever thought of bringing Lola back, let alone as a recurring character. She returns in an episode set right at the start of the Hoenn leg of Ash's journey and her "death" isn't remotely addressed in the dub, but the dub for Chronicles was handled by a different team to the usual one. By that point, though, Shudo had left the team.

Basically, Lola is a fucking mess of continuity so just roll with it, you'll drive yourself mad trying to figure her out otherwise.

>>28590444
Yes, it would be nice to see. For me, I just hope they will end Ash's journey one day and make also clear the future path that the team rocket trio choose for their life... Basically, giving use a decent conclusione to the anime. To continue like this it's just an insult to the characters and story that Shudo created.

>>28571677
L O N D O N ?
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N
D
O
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>>28578251
>learned your Japanese from some lecherous old guy in a Pachinko parlour

How else are you supposed to learn Japanese?

>>28580367
>gene pool
>implying they ever marry or have kids with old hags

yeah keep believing that whore

>>28589186
Ah, you missed something my friend. "10 months and 10 days" is a euphamism for pregnancy. They merely meant he was 10 years old, either exactly or just stating the years.

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>>28590793
Fucking hell that's confusing. Yea like you said it better to just role with it. But still it would be nice to see some darker stuff address in the anime aside from the final confrontation with evil team. But the thing is would that be too mature and dark for a kids show? I remember seeing dark storylines and characters in shows I've watch when I was young and it didn't affect me really. (I don't live in the US tho so I'm not sure for people there) So I'm wondering if kids now are pussies or that parents are just to involve these days.

>>28586759
>His strongest point is his determination
>After his encounter with Mewtwo and his loss with at the Indigo, he becomes gravely discouraged

This is actually wild. It would be huge for his character development, and winning the Orange League could've been used as impetus to continue that development in that he CAN become a great trainer if he worked hard enough.

>>28590793
>obviously Flints kids

Otherwise she REALLY sticks to a type of man.

>>28572305
They should hire this people to write the show

>>28590793
When she first appeared and Brock was so antagonistic about her meddling with the gym, I thought she was another woman his father fell in love with and Brock wasn't happy about replacing him and changing everything.

The episode definitely feels ripe with those feelings of dissent for another woman coming in and taking control of the house.

The original show was so dark. XY brought this back and it's being raped by Sun and Moon

t. Christmas Cake

>>28572167
women age like milk
men age like wine

>>28584896
Probably a native Romance language speaker. In those languages (at least in French and I believe Spanish), you 'have' so many years instead of 'are'.

>>28586740

But why is that dog so mad at the veggies?

>>28593120
>tfw slav
>tfw here we can state it both ways

Masz dziesięć lat = you have ten years
Jesteś dziesięcioletni = You're ten years old

Shit, man, internet discussions are best place for sudden discoveries.
TheMoreYouKnow

>>28593053
We (men) have more collagen, yeah, but race is also key.

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>Takeshi Shudo worked on Legend of the Galactic Heroes

That explains everything

>>28593442
>Galactic Heroes
Sorry for my ignorance but what's that? Is it good?

>>28593053
>women age like milk
>their bodies also start giving up after they are no longer able to conceive

I honestly feel bad for them, I'd hate to grow old as a woman.

>>28593704
It's one of the best anime of all time.

>>28586821
Wasn't that only in the dub?

There's a lot of Headcanon potential thanks to this
>Ash has to stay home from School on the day where Fathers visit because all the kids bully him extra hard
>He's pretty good at baseball but his team mates bully him extra hard for being a fatherless loser every time they lose even if he isn't why they lost.
>Ash spends his free time either wandering around in the forest or at Oak's Ranch.
>He constantly brings home pokemon but can't keep any of them due to his mother not making enough money to support them and a pokemon..
>One time he was wandering around he broke his leg and was only found because of a Pokemon Trainer's flying type seeing him.
>Both he and his mother are looked down upon Ash for his loner status and Delia because she can't just drop her job to take care of her son.

>>28594025
I wonder if that also the case for the games, every protagonist. Apart from the 3 one you never had a father and the mother always seemed to have abandon their job/career to raise you. I wonder if the main character is not suppose to have had a happy childhood.

>>28594209
I'm not sure, IIRC gen 5 mentions the Protagf's dad if you examine their TV and implies that he travels for his work

>>28594393
Interesting I should check on that, what about the others and gen 6's one? Is he mentioned at all, I can't remember.

>>28594448
well Gen 3's got Norman as a Dad.
1, 2, 4 and 6 doesn't mention anything about the protag's dad I think

>>28594025
I really want a series following Young Ash

>>28593704
It's a japanese novel series surrounding a long, political galactic war, following both factions and painting an extremely Three-dimensional picture of all of the issues surrounding the war. It has a cast of hundreds of characters, each with names and backstories, and it's been adapted many times into a lot of different anime, manga, and at least one video game. The 110 episode anime OVA series is regarded by many to be one of the best animes of all time.

So yeah, someone having to do with LoGH doing pokemon would be a pretty big deal.

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>>28571409
>good for nothing father abandons family
>good for nothing son follows father's footsteps

I want to make tender love to Delia Ketchum. I want to whisper softly into her ear as the orgasms that she still has me and that I will never leave her side.

>>28597477
Well I know what I'm falling to later

>>28597477
How does anyone leave this?

>>28598545
*fapping

>>28599110
Auto-correct doesn't recognize fapping?

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>>28597477
Hey hey hey, you know what is good Kakyoin.

We will finally see ash's father in the anime,
it will be red... mark my words.

>>28571409
holy shit, the face when im older than ash's mom since 1 month :(

>>28599412
>the face when

>>28599376
But Red is Ash.
And Richie is Red.
Or is Father Red based on the LGFR design aged up to being 30ish?

>>28578148

Considering their birthrate is low, it's probably better to keep working till death as there ain't many youngins to pay into your social security/pension.

>>28572305
Man, the movie when she says "You cant save the world somewhere near to home?" now makes more sense.

>>28594013

The pun is dub only but his dad is mentioned all the same.

>>28579540

I think every girl Brock's been into has been an older, career-oriented woman which make perfect sense since his parents are both deadbeats.

>>28593138
You wouldn't understand until you've seen a cabbage brutally kill your previous owner.

We need a anime based on the good parts of Shudo's ideas
none of the "Ash should lose and then give up" but lots more character backstory and development

>>28587007
This is a world where school is completely optional and according to Shudo, 10 is a legal adult. I'd think if anything, she was probably expected to have them much eariler.

>>28571747
>>28578285
To be fair, world building from post-Masuda years feels like it'd discredit a LOT of what Shudo tried to establish.

The only thing that still stands is the trio and Lugia, while game scenario writers like Ohmori might embrace some of what he started but want to polish to a different route.

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>>28571717
>pokemon couldve almost been an actually dark-ish series with undertones like this and character development with ash
>instead we just get 30 minute advertisements and disappointment

motherfucker is spinning in his grave

>>28601395
That was still happening even when he was writing.
Long-ass spinning.

>>28590444
>>28590826
>jessie and james wont just quit team rocket and join ash on his bogus quest to be a pokemon master
>ash is the dopey lead
>jessie is the one who tries to teach him dirty tricks and underhanded strategies
>james is the straight man, keeping everyone in line and helping to raise everyones pokemon
>meowth and rotom-dex are the pokemon translators
>pikachu is pikachu

>instead we're just going to get jessie and james still bothering ash for pikagod even though giovanni probably got fucking killed by that electro ball 2 seasons ago

i hate these fucking writers

>>28600848
Ash giving up would be great, regardless of whether he comes back or not.

The whole rebellion shit was the retarded part

>>28571474
>>28571913
>>28571984
>>28572071

You're all mistaken. I own the first book. It's a novelization of the animation, and like virtually every Japanese anime/toku/drama novel, they flesh out the core plot. That's the sell, they give you more of the story. It's not an 'alternate' take, especially with Shudo authoring them, they're effectively a director's cut of the first arc.

It even has frames of animation on about 1/4 of its pages.

>>28601623
>The whole rebellion shit
you mean Ash being a loner for getting bullied?

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>>28571409
>Milf

>>28601899
One of his ideas for how the Pokemon anime should end involved Pokemon having a grand uprising against humans and Pikachu having to negotiate terms between humans and Pokemon.

He came up with some weird-ass shit sometimes. You should see the dinosaur pitch for the third movie.

>>28601093
Lugia is a bizarre entity in a meta sense, since it's the one and only Pokemon that was created specifically for the anime. The thing was created specifically to be the master of the legendary birds, even though it's never had that role in any of the games.

is this the Shudo meme thread

>>28592462
nigga there is no OL if Shudo had his way

>>28602098
Manlet ambiguous kind of dinosaurs fighting against actual dinosaurs?

>>28601395
>pokemon couldve almost been an actually dark-ish series with undertones like this and character development with ash

What the fuck are you talking about? Shudo wanted Ash to be an eternal loser and then grow up to realize what a childish and silly dream becoming a pokemon master is and go on to get a normal job

>>28603002
Seems like suicide would be the only option for him.

>>28573229

Well, people used to get married at a younger age back then, and it was 1996 when RG released in japan, so if he was 47 in 1996, then he got his first child in 1949.

>>28593053
>>28593738
They both age like cheese. Some can make it work, having character, sharpness to them.

Most others just end up smelly, a moldy mess.

>>28603002
Holy shit is he the most gook gook to ever gook?

>>28603002
That's normal.

Not everyone can be a master.

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All in all, a fascinating thread.

Can someone cap all the Sad Ash stuff?

>>28606051

why don't you do it?

>>28601643

thanks for clarifying

>>28606181
I'm on mobile

>>28606273
fag

>>28603002
Honestly, I think that settling down after small victories would be a good ending compared to Ash permanently stuck in a loop of losing in each region.

>>28603002
So was Ash losing the Kalos league Shudo's vision?

Is Sun and Moon the settling down you speak of?

>Thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqvBT9fSEHw

>>28601643
>and like virtually every Japanese anime/toku/drama novel, they flesh out the core plot
Well except for the AU Kamen Rider novels like Ryuki's that was the edgiest shit imaginable (IIRC one of the antagonists was birthed while his mom was at the bathroom and lived amongst unflushed shit for something like four days before strangling his mom with the placenta/umbilical cord and using her to climb out of the shitter)

>>28603002
If you are talking about the finale he had planned for the series, that with the rebellion of all Pokémon, it wasn't something to point out that Ash couldn't fulfill his dream because he wasn't strong enough or because he wanted him to be a looser. It was something to make him growth and understand better how life goes.
The first time I heard about this finale I was really surprised and I didn't like it a lot; but when I asked myself why I disliked it, I realised that it was just because it was different from what I wanted and different from my image of the pokémon world. I spent my childhood years thinking of that world as an utopic world, with pokémon as friends for life, and I probably still have that idea in mind. But if you think at Shudo idea, it was something so realistic that it scares you. Life doesn't always go as you wish, but you still have to accept it and go on. I can't know it for sure, but I really believe that his finale could have been something beautiful if they just let Shudo do it. I really believe so.

>>28603002
what a terrible conclusion for the series.
is he insane?

>>28599341
I suddenly crave donuts

>>28608071
Check out Minky Momo some day.

The main character dies halfway into the show

>>28611598
Is Minky Momo your attitude?

Where can I read this?

>>28602303
Nah, they just dig up a T-rex skeleton, then it comes to life and goes on a rampage. The idea got shot down because it would require that a walking T-rex skeleton be advertised as the main villain, which producers thought was a bit too ridiculous.

>>28611991
Man, I wish that Skeleton Kabutops or Aerodactyl was usable now.