The Fairy type has no consistent theme

>>28571365

Fairies in real-world mythology have no consistent theme.

>>28571365
I don't mind the type but you sir are right.

The Grass type has no consistent theme

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>>28571412
Meant to post

>>28571365
Dark type also has no consistent theme. What's your point?

>>28571412
Plants, fungi, sea lilies, and a lawnmower.
>>28571439
Dark types are viewed as evil (even if they're not).

>>28571472
Fairy types are viewed as good (even if they're not).

>>28571365
Dark ranges from dirty fighters to nocturnal creatures
Dragon ranges from wyverns to palmtrees
Psychic ranges from magicians to punchbags

>>28571512
No one in Pokemon lore views Whimsicott as good.

>Normal: The non-elementals. Compared to other types, they've got no special piwers
>Fighting: Super strength and martial arts
>Flying: Wind elementals
>Poison: Poison/venom
>Ground: Earth elementals
>Bug: Bugs
>Ghost: Spoopy, shadow elementals
>Steel: Metal
>Fire: Fire elementals
>Water: Water elementals
>Grass: Plants, nature elementals
>Electric: Lightning elementals
>Psychic: Psychic powers
>Ice: Ice elementals
>Dragon: Dragons
>Dark: Called Evil in Japan, these are basically the edgelords
>Fairy: Fairies

>>28571365
Neither do Dragon, Dark, Psychic, or Normal. Your point?

>>28571538
No one in Pokémon lore views Umbreon as evil.

I'd like to see where they'd go with a Dark/Fairy. Like maybe a goblin or something.

>>28571538
Are dark types like Crawdaunt, Tyranitar and Carvahna really considered evil lorewise?

Good. Typing should be more about balance and movesets rather than design.

>>28571607
Mawile.

Steel type horns justification is bullshit. Should've been pure Dark to start and added Fairy later.

>>28571607
Something like an evil clown/jester

>>28571543
you forgot about
Rock: Has something to do with rocks

>>28571365
GF has been getting their types fucked as of recent.

Just look at Sun/Moon.

Comfey is pure fairy, despite literally having flowers attached to it (btw fuck Florges line)

Bounsweet is pure grass (despite having an energetic personality like a lot of other fairies)

And fucking Lurantis is pure grass, not a trace of Bug or Fairy despite its aesthetics!

Moreluls is grass/fairy (just cause)

Rockruff is pure rock despite clearly having Normal elements (there hasn't been a single pure flying type besides Tornadus)

>>28571674
to be fair, most of those could get secondary types in their evolved forms

>>28571543
>???-type = ha, I don't know

>>28571607
Mega Absol would've been a perfect Dark/Fairy type.

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QUICK
WHICH GEN HAS BEST FAIRIES

>>28571784
A tie between 6 and 7 honestly.

>>28571784
Gen 3 hands down.

>>28571784
Gen VII's fairies look very promising

>>28571674
Comfey gathers the flowers, that's like saying I should be a grass type because I wear cotton T-shirts

Bounsweet is literally based on a fruit.

Lurantis I'll give you, but in GF's defense it's bsed on an orchid mantis. It should at least be grass/bug.

Morelull has fair because fairy circles

And if Rockruff should have normal on that, then Vulpix and a lot of other pokemon should have normal typing too

>>28571784
fifth gen.

it has the only grass/fairy, and for some reason I like that chubby EXP pinata rodent

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>>28571365
Actually, a good majority of Fairies of would share these traits:
-Tricksters(being playful and non malevolent assholes)

-Nature(using the moon as power source and ritual, looking like plants, being nature deities)

-Mythical/Folk Tale shit(Angelic beings, Magical girls, Moon rabbits, etc)

Out of all the fairies though, Dedenne is the only one that has it because of cuteness.

I think people need to realise that some of the types that are more rigid thematically (Ghost, Dragon, Fairy) don't work in the same way they do in the real world. These are literal, physical elements that make up the world in the Pokemon universe, like Fire, Earth, Air, and Water used to be believed to be the four components that made up everything in the world. Dragon is a literal element, and some Pokemon are imbued with that element. There's no such thing as a dragon in the Pokemon world, but there are many dragon type Pokemon, and they do not necessarily line up with what we would assume to be dragons; it's why Charizard isn't Dragon-type but Altaria is, despite to us Charizard is a dragon and Altaria is not. Charizard has no dragon powers, but Altaria does, so it is a dragon type.

Likewise, fairies are not all humanoids with insectoid wings, because that's not what a fairy is in the Pokemon universe. Golurk in turn isn't a ghost, it's an ancient construct, but it's still very bit a Ghost-type as Yamask.

>>28571365
>The Fairy type has no consistent theme
Pink

>>28571784
I like gen 7 so far because it's taking the whole "faries have to be pink blobs" shit and throwing it out the window.

>>28571910
Ok, but pokemon is a world that is specifically designed by humans. I do think people don't give GF enough credit regarding designs and typings, but something that appears to be of poor design should be viewed with some scrutiny.

>>28571674
I'm hoping Midday will be Rock/Normal with ESpeed.

Almost every fairy is based on something within the fantasy realm or a folktale/fairytale. That's about as much as a theme as any other type.

>>28572054
It's gonna be Rock/Ground. Watch.

>>28572030
>"faries have to be pink blobs"
Tell me one fairy that is literally a pink blob.

>>28571940
>Togepi line
>Marill line
>Mawile
>Mega Altaria
>Cottonee line
>Flabebe line
>Dedenne
>Carbink
>Xerneas
>Comfey
>Cutiefly
>Mimikyu
>Alolan Ninetales
>Tapu Koko
>Magearna

>Pink

>>28572083
There's a pink blob but it isnt fairy (yet)

You could argue for jigglypuff and clefairy tho

>>28572030

Most of those aren't even pink.

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>>28572083

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>>28572101
>Chansey

NO

>>28572083
Igglybuff

>>28572094
You're really making me say it, anon?
the pussies. the pussies are pink

>>28571784
Gen 6 and 7 (including past gen megas) because they were clearly designed with the fairy type in mind

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>>28572147
>that's rose

>>28571655
Rock-type: Meme used so that Geodude and Onix have x4 weaknesses

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>>28572108
Slurpuff is based on this. Also its 90% white.

>>28571607
A Dullahan?

>>28572175
DEMI-CHAN

>>28572174
>Also its 90% white.
You need to check your vision

>>28571607
Literally any Unseelie that doesn't have a stronger elemental tie would work.

>>28571784

7, hands down. Besides Magearna and Comfey, most of the mons have recieved (At least here) good rating.

>>28571784
Gen 2-3(4)

I really like the togepi line, and HUGE POWER DONT ANSWER TO NO DRAGONS Azumaril.

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>>28572192
>Implying

>>28571625
They're more violent by instinct than evil.

>>28571365
>fairies
>feminine, delicate, fairies/folktale, pink
or at least thats how i saw it

>>28571625
Not really. When you go down to it, only a handfull of Dark tyoe mons are "evil", in rest they're just aggressive animals.

>>28571365
There are lots of types that have multiple themes.

Normal:
-Regular-ass mammals (most Normal types)
-Regular-ass birds (when combined with Flying)
-Uncategorized (Porygon, Arceus, Smeargle, Type: Null, Ditto)
-Voice (Jigglypuff, Meloetta, Exploud, Boomburst, Hyper Voice)
-Rubbery? (Blissey, Jigglypuff, Lickilicky, Audino)

Most times Normal can indicate mammal, but then you get stuff like Helioptile that doesn't really fit anything else except maybe Dunsparce, which is also weird.

Flying:
-Regular-ass birds (when combined with Normal)
-Air control (Tornadus, Rayquaza, Air Slash, Hurricane)
-Wingedness (non-bird Flying types, Wing Attack)

There are Flying types like Pidgeot that are normal-ass birds but also can control air (Hurricane, Air Slash, etc) while ones like Dodrio can only use the bird melee attacks and not the air control. Where is the consistency?

Psychic:
-Intelligence (Metagross, Alakazam)
-Magic (Delphox)
-ESP (most Psychic types)
-Moon (Lunala, Cresselia, Lunatone)
-Alien (Deoxys, Beheeyem)
-Premonition (Jirachi, Xatu)
-Ceremony (Chimecho, Bronzong)

Seems unfocused if you look at it that way.

Why do people scrutinize Fairy over all other types? Other types having multiple different facets has never been a problem before, so why is it now with Fairy?

Fairy has:
-Nature/Homeopathy (Geomancy, Xerneas, Florges, Comfey, Flower Shield)
-Aroma (Slurpuff, Aromatisse, Aromatic Mist)
-Feelings (Sylveon)
-Moon (Clefairy, Moonblast, Wigglytuff, Azumarill)
-Playfulness (Dedenne, Cottonee, Mawile, Klefki)
-Light (Light of Ruin, Dedenne, Dazzling Gleam)

I don't understand how this is a problem for anyone.

I wish the attacks were at least themed. On the one hand you have a moon thing going which is cool, then you have fucking kisses and wind and play rough.

What a fucking retarded idea for an attack, play rough. Literally playing with the opponent does more damage than x scissor or crunch

>>28571784
7

Gen 6 is 50% shit and 50% good

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Can't wait for our first edge fairy desu.

>>28571850
> I should be a grass type because I wear cotton T-shirts

If I was to put a lighter on your shirt it would the shirt would go in flames causing you serious trouble

If I put a lighter on your skin it's a small burn in one spot, just put some ice or something

It makes perfect sense

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>>28571365
"Girly" is the theme of Fairy types.

>>28571607
A Werewolf

>>28571607
A jack-in-the-box, or a clown/joker/jester themed pokemon

>>28572444
>Implying Nightdoge won't be Rock/Dark

>>28572468
But wearing clothes doesn't make me a plant

>>28571784
Gen 7. I think they've conceptualized the Fairy-type much better this time around. I really hope the evolutions look just as good.

>>28572529
But it does give you a fire weakness

Comfey should burn for carrying all those flowers

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>>28572147
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>>28572530
Well this is supposed to be Cutiefly's evo, so.

>>28572591
I'll wait until the official art. Also looks like it will be a three-stage mon.

>>28572546
Then anything with fur or hair should have a fire weakness too. Altaria would burn like a motherfucker.

>>28572607
Had the same idea, basically this gen's Florges.

>>28572634
Hair doesn't burn the same as clothes

I've burnt my hair before and it was perfectly fine after

Altaria is clouds

>>28572649
This! Ready for a majestic fairy or silk moth final evo.

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>>28572526
Think about it senpai.
>werewolves and silver bullets go hand in hand
>Rock/Fairy would mean a 4x steel weakness.
>bullet punch = instant ko

It only makes sense.
I don't care what type it becomes as long as it has either dark/fighting/fairy as the sub type

>>28572634
>Altaria would burn like a motherfucker.
I hope Altaria gets the Fluffy ability in S/M. Physical walling for days

>>28572661
There are literally entire compilations of hair catching on fire on youtube.

>>28572740
Holy SHIT that's an insane ability. Though moonblast kind of bypasses it pretty cleanly.

>>28572693
It's gonna be Rock/Fighting and Sun pup Rock/Ground. Watch.

Although Rock/Fairy or Dark/Fairy would be pretty amazing.

>>28572607
I kind of hope not desu, I'm worried a 3rd stage would ruin an otherwise fantastic line.

>>28571365
The way I see it, Fairy types are:
mythical, magical, mischievous, whimsical, cute, or beautiful. That's a lot of adjectives, so it's no wonder why it's the most ambiguous type, as opposed to something like Bug, in which everyone knows that if something is a Bug type, it's a bug of sorts (arthropods and several other invertebrates, really)

Coherent list of each type's consistent theming
Normal - Normality
Fighting - Fighting
Flying - Flying
Poison - Poison
Ground - Ground
Bug - Bugs
Ghost - Ghosts
Steel - Steel
Fire - Fire
Water - Water
Grass - Grass
Electric - Electricity
Psychic - Being Psychic
Ice - Ice
Dragon - Dragons
Dark - Darkness
Fairy - Fairies

Fuck are you on about?

>>28571674
>And fucking Lurantis is pure grass, not a trace of Bug or Fairy despite its aesthetics!
It's a plant pretending to be a bug. We've been over this. There are plants in real life that do this.

>Moreluls is grass/fairy (just cause)
Because Fairy Circles. I'm guessing you're also one of the people who think it should be poison, despite the fact that not all mushrooms are poisonous, especially the mushroom it is based off of.

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>>28572607
Just like how Ledyba and Ledian looks like it could be three-stage, huh?

>>28575128

We got a smartass in the building.

It was

>pretty cute and elegant Pokemon

until the Tapu uglies got typed as fairy

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>Fairy type exists
>Sound type still doesn't

There is no justice in the world.

>>28575339
>sound type
>not air type

>>28575128
>Dark - Darkness
You fucking retard, Dark type is based on evil and villainous themes.

>>28575389
>not vibration type

>>28575288
>pretty cute and elegant Pokemon
Mr.Mime is a Fairy though.

>>28571625
Crawdaunts meant to be really violent. Carvahna attack boats and evolves into "the ruffian of the sea" also a pedo
Tyrant miter supposedly has no respect for its surroundings, frequently goes on rampages and likes to pick fights

>>28575417
>not mom's secret in the drawer type

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>seven generations of Pokemon
>STILL no blood-type
fuck this gay earth

>>28575448
Mr Mime is also very cute

>>28575280
Yeah, why isn't there a larva stage?

>>28572283
But can it learn crabhammer?

>>28575755
No, Slurpuff can't into Crabhammer

>>28572081
plz no

>>28572083
You do know that a pokémon falling under the pink blob label aren't literally blobs, right?

>>28571472

Dark-types are based off of violence and dirty tactics, while the Fighting-types are more associated with honorable combat by the Japanese.

Dark types are not inherently evil, just a different set of combat ethics, hence why they have stuff like Beat Up, stealing, knocking items away.

>>28571538
Whimsicott is based on saci from brazilian's mythology, they're kinda fairies

>>28571867
THIS. Thank you, anon

The fairy type should be from the start more focused on the guardian of whatever theme. Instead they rolled with the cutiemccuteface theme, which is way too narrow for a whole type.

Even though S/M dots a good job so far, I still think it wasn't a good decision at all. Almost any other type would've been better

>inb4 Cosmo is a good type
>inb4 light is a good type

They're shit, get over it

>>28576350
What about spliting Water-type into Fresh-water, Salt-water, and Marine Invertebrate types?

>>28576441
would be too much alike imo. You see a fish pkm and think it's fresh water, but nope: salt water. I'm all in for a primal type to redeem the fossils (and add more dinosaur based pkm with it) or even the sound type it has a huge variety, f.e. it could be a singing bird or a giant who attacks by clapping his hands together, thus creating a sound wave or something

>>28576738
Did you catch it in a lake or the ocean?

>no Ice/Fairy 'Jack Frost' Pokemon
>no Dark/Fairy unseelie fairy Pokemon
>>no Goblins or Trolls, no Dullahan
>No Ground/Fairy dwarf/gnome Pokemon
>No Water/Fairy Nymph Pokemon

We kinda have Dryads I guess but we can do a Grass/Fairy type better imo.

>>28571365
It's literally the meta type. It was only added to resist the common attacking types like dragon, dark, fighting and bug and be weak to the useless offensive types like steel and poison. Then they realized that there aren't enough things that could count as fairies and sprinkled that type at random.
>Jigglypuff = Normal/Fairy
>Clefairy = Fairy
>Chansey = Normal
Not even the three original pink blobs were spared of the lack of theme.

>>28577065
Those sound like personas.

>>28577147
>bug
>Common attacking type
You what?

Fairy's theme is cutesy or girly Pokemon, I guess.

Mr. Mime is the oddball since he scares me.

>>28571784
Competitively speaking, III since all of them are either OU or Uber.

Design wise, VII is looking great just for giving some diverse designs and typing.

>>28578644
>he

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>>28578653

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>>28578566
Because Personas are literally just SMT designs, and SMT designs are literally Kazuma "Dicks in a flowery field" Kaneko drawing his interpretations of supernatural, mythological or religious entities.

>>28577147
I was actually really happy with these 3 are now all different types and they fit. Chansey, despite being pink and cute, is primarily an egg laying monetreme thing. It doesn't really need to be Fairy and NO ONE wants Chansey to be buffed like that either. It would be insane as a Fairy type.

Clefairy as pure fairy is obvious. Jigglypuff as Normal/Fairy seems tp fit to me too based on being somewhere between chansey and clefairy thematically and in stats (has huge hp, presumbably becaise its squishy/rubbery like chansey).

>>28575339
Sound type is fucking lame and cancer. If for anything else it is SO boring and many of the things you would retype as sound need their other types thematically, especially attacks. It works FINE as a subtype!!!!!

>>28575247
Fucking retard Morelull is based on fox fire, also known as Fairy fire: the bioluminescence of fungi. There is nothing about fairy rings about it, unless this comes in when it evolves. Its main theme is fairy fire (bioluminescence)

It is NOT based on a morel. That aspect is only present in it's English name and then it is only as a pun. It looks nothing like a fucking Morel

>>28578725
Clefairy was pretty much the mascot of Normal-Type with only Meowth and Eevee being as popular as it and with more unrelated things that invoke Clefairy. Whitney on suicide watch.

It overlaps a lot with Psychic, Ghost, Normal, Grass and a bit of Dark and Bug.

We needed less types, not more.

Merging rock and ground into earth would be the obvious first step.

>>28571636
I actually thought Mawile was Steel/Ghost for years.

>>28578834
No. No... no.

The amount of types we have now is just fine.if anything fairy picks up from where normal, Psychic and to a lesser extent grass, were all becoming top thematically bloated.

The difference between solid minerals/gemstones/fossils and soil /mud/sand is reasonably well defined and fine. To roll these too types up would make the resultant type too bloated like psychic already sort of is.