>Use Z-Move
>Opponent switches to Pyukumuku
>>28554988
>Use normal/fighting Z-Move
>Opponent switches to a ghost
>>28554988
>opponent switches in a meme No Guard Fissure bank Machamp
>use Z-Move
>>28554988
>Use Z-move
>Opponent switches out to Mimikyu
>>28554988
>Use z-move
>it misses
>Try to sweep with Talonflame
>Opponent used Accelrock!
>>28554988
>Use Z-Move
>Opponent uses Protect
>>28554988
>It's a verlisifilis set
>It's sashed
>Use Z-move
>Opponent uses protect
>Switch out
>Heracross used Focus punch
>Try to out-predict opponent
>They do something completely fucking stupid that you never thought of, but it throws you off enough to land them the win
>Competative will never have exciting shit like this happen
>>28555312
I had one of these earlier today, scrub with his 6 uber team didn't see my Snorlax with Selfdestruct coming. Wiped out his FUG easily while I was at low hp.
>>28555351
>implying competitive mons will actually use Z-moves in the first place
>>28555854
>implying competitive mons will actually mega evolve in the first place
>try to predict z-move
>switch to mimikyu
>they use a normal attack
>they use the z-move on the next turn
>>28555918
>Comparing a Permanent change of one of your pokemon into a BST 700+ monster with OP abilities to a one-time-use nuke that can be easily predicted, protected, or otherwise outplayed,
>Implying
>>28556671
Don't forget
>At the cost of a valuable moveslot
There's really nothing actually viable about Z-moves from a competitive point of view, since other items are generally going to be more useful, even without Megastones.
>>28556758
I dont think z-moves use a moveslot, remember in one of the trailers the z move button was to the left of the normal moves buttons, as a separate thing
>>28556758
Z-Moves don't use a move slot. Z-Moves are a separate option, like Mega Evolution.
>Select Z move
>get outsped by unexpected scarf user and ohkod before I can use it
>>28556758
You're right except for the moveslot part, since chances are if you're gonna use a Z-move it probably corresponds to your STAB.
Now, it people are gonna use it like a Hidden Power, then that's probably super inefficient unless they wanna bluff items.
>>28557082
Is it confirmed all z moves are just damage and no other effect? Including the exclusive ones? Seems retarded
>>28557196
They're basically just a means for any pokemon, shitmon or not, to get its own nuke
>>28556671
Type gems were used in gen 5 so I don't see why Z-moves wouldn't be
>Hawlucha consumes fighting Z gem
>Hawlucha used acrobatics
AHHHHH
>they stay in and think they'll tank a super effective Z move
>OHKO'd
JoJo is shit.
SHIT
>>28559439
>posts what I assume is K-On.
Your bait got me.
>yfw the only way to beat EXPANSION is with some super contrived JoJo bullshit
>>28560258
>implying EXPANSION can match the power of 「Pulverizing Pancake」
>Trying to play mind-games with some anonymous rando over the internet
>Instead of with someone who you can directly observe their tics and expressions
>It doesn't work
Gee, I wonder.
>>28559387
>they stay in and think they'll tank a super effective Z move
>They do
So are Z moves good even if like Shuckle uses it?
>Use Z-Move
>They hang on with their focus sash
>>28555152
>z-moves will let you soft counter meme mons on type advantage alone
huh, never crossed my mind
http://imgur.com/04dOHHm
This is why i wished Absorption was in moon
>>28560385
>you switch out and you're greeted with an unexpected super effective Z-move
>you tank it
>>28560336
Mind games are a thing for plenty of games, though