Why is everyone freaking out over totem Wishiwashi?

>>28364645
because its stats are possibly going to rival that of ubers in school form

>>28364664
>150 sp attack

Meh, unless it learns water spout then I dont give a shit

>>28364645
>water type with huge special attack
>weather is rain
>start with a defensive boost
>can summon allies

>>28364690
150 SpA boosted by rain, man

Can we pancake it?

>>28364645
>a pokemon with massive special attack, in the rain, with one of its stats boosted, and able to summon allies
Why exactly wouldn't we freak out?

>>28364827
we can pancake it

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How do we know it has 150 sp atk? Or is it just an assumption?

>>28364904
damage calcs from the battle showcasing it when it was first revealed.

>>28364904
Calcs based on the damage we've seen in do in gameplay.
It has at LEAST 150 SpA

>>28364904
Probably calculations based on how much damage it did to gen 1-6 pokemon in one of the trailers using an already known move.
Pokemon in trailers tend to have 31 IVs and 0 EVs.

>>28364904
>150 STAB rain-boosted Scald

>Game Freak will find a way to make it easy

>>28364904
It's been caculated based on it attacking stuff in trailers.

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"Pokemon games are getting too easy!"
>Creators put an actual challenge in the game
"W-what the hell! That's overpowered!"

Because they think the game might finally be difficult
Even though they've already said it will be baby mode in an interview

>>28364991
How are people doing that.... None of them have damage values....

>>28364935
Is there a site with all the damage calcs? I've searched for it but I couldn't find anything

>>28365058
>citation needed

>>28365015
Are you serious? People here are excited for this(finally a battle that will require a bit of strategy), the only ones complaining are shitposters

>>28365015
Don't worry, Gamefreak will find a way to make it piss easy

>>28365015
You can be scared and excited at the same time.

>>28365015
>Send out Snorlax
>Pulverizing Pankake
>one shot
>totem battle over

>>28365081
>....
>not knowing how to use the damage calculator
Kill yourself

>>28365015
what
no ones complaining about it

>>28365081
It has attacked pokemon that we already know using moves we already know. finally, pokemon used in trailers are pretty much always given 31 IVs and 0 EVs.
Its not hard to calculate with all that info.

>>28365015
>Implying our surprise is complaining

I'm looking forward to getting the living shit beaten out of me by Totem Wishiwashi's megafug-tier stats, rain boosted, while calling backup to outnumber me

Hurt me more, Gamefreak

>>28365151
Good luck with that friendship thing

>>28364747
We don't even know if the aura boost is just defensive. For all we know Wishiwashi's aura boost will cover all stats, or even all it's defense stats and health, making it even tankier than it already was.

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>>28365148
>Aura boosted Totem Wishiwashi in the rain
>Summons other Wishiwashi that go school form as well, in the rain
>It's no longer a Pokemon battle, it's a war
THIS PARTIES GETTING CRAZY

>>28364690
>meh
autism

>>28365394
I legit went to the good old Smogon Calculator, put in all the variables, and this is what I got for a beneficial natured wishiwashi school form with +3 due to Totem boost, rain and STAB and shit at max.

>+3 252+ SpA Wishiwashi School Form Scald vs. 172 HP / 252 SpD Kyogre in Rain: 186-220 (48.4 - 57.2%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO

>yfw your mon gets hit by this and another wishiwashi school form's moves too during the same turn

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>>28365497
>>28365394

We are going to get rekt

Absolutely fucking destroyed

Is this how masochists feel?

>>28365530
Wow, aren't you a Despairfag.

>>28365497
That's scary but the totem boost is a +2, if I remember correctly

>>28365546

Not even sure what you mean m8 I'm fucking loving it

It'll make the victory that much more sweet

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>>28365394
We can go even further beyond:
>Totem Wishiwashi summons Lightingrod Seaking

>>28365497
How do we know Wishiwashi's sp.atk?

>>28365625
Beg yourself that Drayano or whoever made Rutile Ruby/Star Saphire doesn't see this.

>>28365298
>not knowing how maximize the frendship of your pokemon in no time
go back to GO

>>28365651
See >>28365081

>>28365651
We have autists who specialize in calculating shit via trailers, because GF ALWAYS has shit set to 31 IVs/0 EVs, so yeah.

>>28365673
I know how to, but still early game it can be a nuisance and some to many might cope put. Also, not even at this point in time have I played GO.

>>28365625
>Totem Wishiwashi summons two Gyrados
>It's now flanked by three other school Wishiwashi, two Gyrados and a lightning rod Seaking
I KNOW I SHOULDN'T GET MY HOPES UP BY I WANT TO IMAGE THE HORROR

>>28365714
>150 spatk
>early game
don't be silly anon

>>28365793
The max is still five.
So the most horrifying combination would be
>Totem Wishiwashi with Sp Atk boost
>two Wishiwashi
>one Lightingrod Seaking
>one DD Gyarados
Give STAB and Ice coverage to everyone and we are set

>>28365625
Just wait for Drayano's or Dio's version, you'll get all this and more.

>calls in additional Wishiwashi
>every additional one schools up WITH THE ORIGINAL
It's fun to dream.

>totem wishiwashi appears
>leaps towards trainer
>is immediately defeated by champion/other important trainer in the same cutscene
"that was a close one!"

I have a question: How accurate have you been at predicting stats using this method?

Also strange matter: I don't remember it raining the other times we've seen the Water trial area. It just starts raining out of nowhere?

>yfw it isn't a totem but just a cutscene

>>28365823

Wishiwashi's totem battle is on the second island. The levels there will potentially range 15-30. The Totems are also meant to be hard.

On top of that the trail battles are about proving yourself. There's hopefully a chance Z-Moves could be disabled for them. I hope they are anyway. Otherwise we'll hear "These strategically hard battles suck because they let you use the press A to win button :("

>>28366024
>this game sucks because they let me use powerful pokemon

FUCK ME IN THE BUTT PLEASE FUCK ME IN THE BUTT

>>28365651
https://youtu.be/7VmMURRKWFk?t=1m32s
Level 27 Wishiwashi against a level 31 Magnezone.
Deals fucking 90%~ damage to it with Hydro Pump

150 S.Atk
>0 SpA Kyogre (Lv27) Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Magnezone (Lv31): 46-55 (48.9 - 58.5%) -- 98.4% chance to 2HKO
250 S.Atk
>0 SpA Kyogre Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Magnezone: 72-85 (76.5 - 90.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Either Schooling also grants a damage boost to its water attacks or this thing has fucking massive S.Atk.

>>28366024
>There's hopefully a chance Z-Moves could be disabled for them. I hope they are anyway. Otherwise we'll hear "These strategically hard battles suck because they let you use the press A to win button :("

dumbest comment of the week, do you happen to browse /vp/ 24/7 and having a bucket in case you need to shit

>>28364747
>totem pokemon can call allies
>in wishiwashi's case, since it's already a school of fish, this just calls more individual wishiwashi to join the school
>since maintaining school form is based on being above a certain hp percentage, calling for allies in this way restores HP

>>28366440

Did i hit a nerve?

>>28366528
>"i really hope they'll hold on a certain feature and keep it a truly hardcore experience so that the autists of /vp/ won't cry at how a game designed for little kids is not challenging"

yes you did

>>28366729

>Implying kids can't handle something that's a little hard.
>Implying that using Z-moves during battles that are designed around being hard should be allowed.
>Implying that /vp/ isn't filled with insufferable whiners that will flood the board for years with the same bitch threads over and over again.

>>28365093
I'm having trouble finding the interview, but it went something like
>Will you make the games more difficulty, or add a difficulty setting
>No, there are kids that play these games, they may not like it if the games are too hard!
>If you want to have a challenge, play multiplayer. Try out our new Battle Royale mode :)

I feel sad for anyone who thinks GF will make a genuinely difficult main story. Totems will most likely be trivialized by Z-Moves.

>>28368439
I know someone who thinks megas have been removed because GF want to fix the metagame - as if gamefreak has even the slightest thought about the competitive pokemon scene when building the games

>>28366500
The main Wishiwashi probably just calls allies that aren't high level enough to form a school.

is there a new trailer or something that shows totem wishiwashi? this is the first i'm hearing about it

>>28368499
Gamefreak implemented Fairy-type to nerf Dragon-type and for the most part, it worked.

However, they won't remove Mega Evolution.

>>28368544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oO_P4GX_RA

>>28368544
It's at around 0:48 in this trailer:
>>28368651

>>28368603
so what are they going to do about fairy being a cancerous type

>>28368718
Slow, shit defense. Good defensive typing, but let's not pretend it's on the same level defensively as steel, or the same level offensively as dragon.

>>28366024
You could always not use the Z-move to give yourself an extra challenge, no?

>>28366855
>Implying kids can't handle something that's a little hard

who are you try to convince, me or GameFreak?

>>28365095
Just use a 100% thunder

>>28365148
This, imagine rape victims.

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>>28365934
Goddammit Alain.

>>28366500
Wait this is confirmed that totem Pokemon can call on other Pokemon in the battle, to where it's kind of like a trainer battle? Fucking great, I'm so hype for gen 7.

>>28368893
>dragon
>a good attacking type
lole desu senpai

What if most totem Pokemon have a gimmick to beating them. Maybe this one is using multiple target moves or else it will re-form. Maybe a mudsdale that has maxed boosted sp.def so you need to status it ?

>Throw master ball
>Alright! The Totem Wishiwashi was caught!

>budew used mega drain

wow what a tough fight

>>28365424
>you can't use this word because I don't like it
this is literally a sign of autism