thanks gen 5

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>>28352054
How is gen 7's seeming lack of pokemon in battle gen 5's fault?

>The first of 4 Island Kahuna's has 3 Pokemon
>the first time you fight Guzma, Plumeria, and (whatever his name in English is) they have 2 Pokemon

I don't see the problem?

>>28352104
cause that started in Gen 5

>>28352054
its more than likely the first time you encounter them. as you battle them again they'll add more to their teams, except for Hala unless you can challenge him to a rematch

>>28352104
Isn't Gen V the one where the elite four had like three pokemon each

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>>28352054
post yfw it is a ruse and they all have full teams

>>28352104
Gen 5 started this shit

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>>28352277
>"This kid should be no problem."
>You beat them.
>They immidiately fight you again with a full team.

>>28352341
I'm pretty sure trainers had two or three pokemon before gen 5

>>28352054
>every single semi-important battle should be 6v6 no items final destination
t. romhacker

it's a kid's game get over it

>>28352179

They had four in the originals, five in the sequels with Challenge Mode.

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>Those poses

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PUT A FUCKING DIFFICULTY SETTING ALREADY

FUCK

i hope they'll have difficult teams or at least 5-6 pokemon in the lategame

that said didn't ghetsis in b/w have a full team?

>>28352054
Guess I'll do a Nuzlocke on the first try

>>28352179

You're thinking of the gyms. No gym when beyond 3 Pokemon.

>>28352466
Because fighting him ended the game, because you fight him after beating the E4

>>28352522

Totem battles will likely be brutal on Nuzlocke runs.

>>28352466

The Guzma one is from the very start of the 3rd Island and from the math we've done in past threads it more or less matches up with most of the first boss leader battles.

>>28352054
Do you want less battles with more pokemon or more battles with less pokemon? Because by the looks of it theres gonna be Boss Monsters (Ultra Beasts), 4 Island Kahuna, 12 Trial Captains, 4 Island Guardians, Villain Team's. I mean shit dude. Thats a lot of things to do in just story mode.

>>28352735

And don't forget the Totem Pokemon. Since I assume by Guardian you mean the four island legendaries.

This game is going to be jam packed with shit.

>>28352735
and that's not even including the aether foundation if they're the real enemies.

>>28352783
I knew I forgot something
>>28352818
4chan ate my spoiler, was gonna hint that.

>>28352735
Less battles with more pokemon. Healing items are far too common in the modern games, and patching up between battles alleviates pressure, while long battles don't allow you to use items without wasting a turn.

I still think this game is going to pull a Okami/Kid Icarus Uprising. They are showing us the first half of the game with these easy stuff, you fight the Skull admins and the boss and when you think the game is over they throw in a big twist (maybe relating to the Ultra Beasts) and you realize that you're only halfway trough.

Even Gary had 4 Pokémon by the time you faced him in cerulean city

>>28352864
>Healing items
Nani?

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>Sun and Moon get literally everything spot on
>Besides difficulty

Great, can't wait to breeze through yet another pokemon game. Fuck gen 5 for starting this casual shit, especially after Platinum which set the bar high.

Will you idiots ever stop attributing number of Pokemon to difficulty?

>>28352179
Yes, but Gen V they at least had the decency to give rematcheable characters full teams in the rematches. Gen VI couldn't even do that. Things are not looking good for Sun/Moon in that aspect.

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wow you guys fall for bait every single time

>>28352390
Yes but in Gen 5, every trainer had 3 at most besides the E4 having 4 and the chano having 6

>>28353082
I can't stop fucking laughing at the zoomed in "Attacks : Horn attack"

>>28352397
Ah, the apologist excuse

>>28353099
Why do you and others keep bringing up elite four like thats a thing in alola. Plus like others in the thread with all content in story mode it more than makes up for it.

>>28353099
Pretty sure your two rivals actually had 5 mons before postgame

but yeah, a lot of the shit in gen 5 is because kids found DPPt too hard

>>28353122

He's not wrong. Not every battle needs to be 6 v 6.

A good two Pokemon team can sweep a full 6 anyway. Gladion's Type: Null could potentially fuck up an early game team if it really is a legendary killer.

>>28353122
>buying a kids game for the challenge
Thats like buying Mario for the Kazio Mario Experience you buy Mario Maker instead.

>>28353008
>Plats romhack-tier difficulty fucked little timmy up so hard that we're now stuck with only easy games

god damn it

>>28352054
To be fair here, Hala is the Kahuna of the first island

>>28353162
Not to mention that the more Pokemon an NPC has the lower the levels of those Pokemon tend to be.

I don't understand how people keep making the number of Pokemon argument when in the past we use to get Team Rocket grunts with 6 low-level Rattata

>>28353188
>Platinum
>difficult
Platinum was no more difficult than any other Pokemon game.

>>28353162
>A good two Pokemon team can sweep a full 6 anyway.
This to be honest.

Mars and Jupiter in platinum don't exactly have many pokemon, but their two aces (Purugly and Skuntank) will push your shit in hard.

>>28353218
0/10.
Platinum is universally agreed upon as being the hardest game in the series.
It's single handedly responsible for gen 5 going the casual route.

>>28353218
Supposedly kids found DPPt to be too hard (easy to get lost in, difficult battles or something) which is why Unova is a literal circle and there are less E4 mons.

>>28352054
Those are the first times you fight Plumeria and Guzma out of who knows how many times throughout the game. But even then who cares? It's likely they aren't even the true villains.

You fight Hala as the final boss of Melemele Island, of course he's not going to have a full fucking team. However he DOES have a Z-Ring so he'll definitely be using a Z-Move during the fight so it's not going to be a cakewalk.

As for Gladion, his ace Pokemon is one that was created to be able to rival the power of Legendary Pokemon, it makes sense that he wouldn't have a lot of Pokemon when he has something like that in his arsenal.

>>28353196
this
Hala is essentially the 1st or 2nd gym leader in comparison to previous games
3 Pokemon is actually good since his levels will be somewhere between 15-25

>Island Kahuna is meant to be a gate for beginners
>Ugly Bitch thinks you'll probably be weak
>Guzma expects you to be weak
>Edgelord probably wants to summon the dark dragon of the 7th plane of darkness to drag your soul into the shadow realm with his two right hand pokemon

>>28352422
This is all you need, everybody wins. Just make it so it's a hard to do command like resetting newer gen games and thats fine

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>>28353218
>Platinum was no more difficult than any other Pokemon game.

>>28353203
Everybody forgets the Gen 3 breeders right next to Mauville, or the fucking fishermen with 6 magikarp/tentacool.

This has always been a thing, the only real exceptions were Gym Leaders and let's be real, most gyms aren't exactly difficult even if you are a moron.

>>28353241
>universally
What? You mean on /vp/ right.

>>28352054
>he didn't play on challenge mode

>>28353241
>Platinum is universally agreed
Here we go again with this "universally agreed" bullshit.
Nothing is "universally agreed upon."

>>28353271
>challenge mode is hard meme
my favorite

There were .cia patches to make the Gen 6 games more challenging, right? Any shot of that happening here?

>>28353261
Just because your first Pokemon game was DPP when you were 8 years old doesn't mean it was difficult.

>>28353295
Not an argument.
Platinum is factually the most difficult game in the series. It's not an opinion.

>>28353290
Almost certainly, and sooner than they happened in gen 6, since 3DS hacking has come a long way since then.

>>28353290
Yes, 100%.

>>28353317
Show me those "facts" then.

>>28353251
Hala's also got Tapu Koko, which probably has a BST of 600.

This is the first island, at best you're going to have your starter's second form.

>>28353295

I've been playing with gen I and DPPt was honestly the first time I struggled. The only time honestly.

I don't understand how you could find any Pokémon game difficult outside of a Nuzlocke. You don't get punished for losing and can always try again. The real difficulty always comes from post game stuff not "oh I lost to the champ, grinded for a few minutes and won a rematch"

>>28353317
It's not. Challenge Mode B2W2 are much more difficult. How the fuck is Platinum even difficult? You can bust through the game with Infernape and Staraptor easily.

>>28353317
>Not an argument
Why do you I keep seeing this more and more on /vp/ in particular?

>>28353329
>Gym leaders and galactic admins/boss has EV trained monsters
>Gym leaders and galactic admins/boss's have pokemon with non shit moves.

>>28353274

I universally agree to this,

>>28353290

What, like BlazeBlack/VoltWhite? Got a link for that shit?

>>28353369
>Gen 5 lover is the one sperging out about platinum not being hard

Why am I not surprised?
What's wrong with these autists anyway? Why do they all have a victim complex?

>>28353380
None of that is special to Platinum.

>>28353403
the big question is why are you surprised that unovabortions are literally the muslims of the pokemon fanbase?

Ah, I see you guys are still on stage 3: bargaining.

>>28353354
We have no proof he has Tapu Koko in his team. And if you're referring to that one scene where Tapu Koko appears in front of him, it's incredibly obvious that's a cutscene with it appearing for some unknown reason.

Also I just checked the Japanese trailer again and he has a Crabrawler with the players Popplio being level 15, so it's clear we fight him pretty damn early on.

>>28352152
the Guzma battle is level 30.

that far into the game and only 2 pokemon

embarrassing

>>28353403
>4chan is one person xDD

>>28353403
You sound pretty upset there, autist. No need to sperg out over the truth.

>>28352974
>Abra

>>28352054
Play with only 3 pokemon.

>>28353421
>Gen 2

>>28353460
Gen 2 gets bashed out the ass about its level curve.

>>28353082
>>28353421

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ugh>>28353043

why do you people always assume the worst? WE DO NOT KNOW JACK SHIT yet about these battles, i.e., if there's gonna be more matches with them with better teams or not

Also, if you want to play a game where all important characters have 6-mon teams, go play a fucking rom hack.

it's a KIDS game. the fucking live nip trailers always show...oh...guess what...that KIDS are playing the damn game. get over yourselves you whiny fucks.

In terms of difficulty

Platinum > Emerald > BW2 Challenge Mode > Fire Red > X&Y > Crystal > BW2 > BW

So yes, gen 5 is technically to blame for the decline in difficulty.

>>28353485
This is bait.

>>28353480
Fuck off cunt, I was playing hard games when I was a kid and I loved that shit.

>>28353485
>XY
>Above Crystal

Other than that, looks solid.

>>28352054


This post already proves that people keep falling for this bait OP posted>>28353082

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>>28353099
You now realize that the only reason they took out the elite 4 was to further casualize the game!

>>28353480
Kids aren't fucking lobotomized retards. Even my 9 year old little sister found XY to be too easy.

>>28353485
Gen 2 and 3 are the easiest games in the series, what are you talking about? Gen 2 gives you broken as fuck TMs very early on and Feraligatr/Typhlosion curbstomp the game. You can get the level 40 beasts by 4th gym as well.

Gen 3 has Swampert and Blaziken, both of which also obliterate the game, and Ludicolo who is decent all around. Furthermore Kyogre and Groudon wreck everything regardless.

>>28353290

Yes. The guy that did the Star Sapphire/Rutile Ruby has confirmed he will begin working on a difficult hack for Sun/Moon as soon as he is done beating the game, and he is hardly going to be the only person to make a hack.

>>28353527

Yeah. I'd say

Platinum > Emerald > BW2 Challenge > FireRed > Crystal > XY > BW2 > BW

XY/BW2/BW are all pretty close though.

>>28353485
You mean Platinum is to blame. It fucked over everything because kids complained.

>>28353485
wtf is this shit, I found BW to be harder than Platinum or Emerald.

>>28353572
I agree with this. Pretty much how I felt during each of my playthroughs of the games.

Nuzlocking them all now before Sun and Moon comes out and Platinum is definitely above the rest. It's not even close.

>>28352054 (OP) #


Why do you retards keep falling for this in every thread>>28353082

>>28353628
>wtf is this shit
People making bait.

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>>28353628
>BW to be harder than Platinum or Emerald

>>28353480
>g-guys let's not assume the worst!
>assumes the best instead
That's just as retarded, anon.

>>28353354
We don't know if he uses Tapu Koko at that point.
I wouldn't be surprised if you fight every Kahuna without they using the island deity, then in the late game (or even post game) you fight them again, this time using the deity, and you get it afterwards.

>>28353629
>Emerald
>hard
You can't make this shit up.
Stop replying to yourself.

>>28353543

Nah. Claire is probably one of the hardest gym leaders even over leveled, and the battle frontier gives gen 3 a clear advantage.

And any game is easy if you just over level your starter. Even Meganium can solo GSC if you let it. I know from experience.

Difficulty should be judged with a proper balanced team and that anons list is pretty close to accurate.

The only thing that makes BW seem hard is that a lot of its earlier Pokemon are absolute trash and the level up system is totally fucked and makes grinding a bitch.

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>BW apologists actually think there games are hard

Am I being memed on?

>>28352104
Gonna need a sauce on that pic there m8

>>28353665
Not him, but I did. Not that the game was difficult (or any others desu) but I busted through Emerald and Platinum with an overleveled starter (though I also used Staraptor in Platinum). You can't actually do that in BW/B2W2 because the game has that exp penalty.

>>28353683
>Claire is probably one of the hardest gym leaders
Nah. Fuck off of with this meme.

>>28353687
Yeah, I don't know how any game that hands you Excadrill can be considered hard.

>>28353682
Juan alone puts any gym leader in BW/BW2 to shame.
Gen 5's rep literally revolves around it being piss easy.

So you retards took the bait and are beyond help, good job you idiots

>>28353683
>the level up system is totally fucked and makes grinding a bitch
You mean it's the best in series and grinding is terrible, right?

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>>28353727
heard you talking shit about me like I wouldn't find out

>>28353727
>Juan
>the gym leader with Luvdisc
Now this is maximum bait.

>>28352918
Tell me more about kid Icarus and okmi twist, pretty please.

>>28353683
>y-you can't judge a game based on how easily an overleveled starter beats it
>but grinding is ok
topkek, you can't be serious
>Claire
>>hard
How? Fucking how? None of her Pokemon are threatening in the least, especially if you're overleveled. They're all shitmons pretty much and they only hit level 40 at max. Maybe you just suck at a children's video game.
>battle frontier gives gen 3 a clear advantage.
Battle Frontier is postgame, buddy. That has nothing to do with maingame difficulty at all.
>The only thing that makes BW seem hard is that a lot of its earlier Pokemon are absolute trash
This is blatantly wrong, a lot of the earlygame Pokemon are more than serviceable.

Jesus Christ I'm not even a Unovabortion and you sound like a fucking retard.

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>>28353704
>because the game has that exp penalty
But it also has Audinos

>>28353665
>Catch a Pokemon
>Fight trainer with a Pokemon thats only 2 levels higher
>One shot
>Throw out Starter thats now overleveled because shitmon are shit
I loved being forced to solo Black/White.

>>28353369
>>28353403
B2W2 Challenge mode is more difficult than Platinum.
But the Challenge Mode is optional and a lot of people didn't even have access to it. People who bought White 2 and didn't have anyone to trade keys with, for instance.

Not to mention the games should be compared in the same difficult setting.
On standard mode, Platinum is the hardest game.

>>28353705

I said Clair. Not Whitney.

Kingdra isn't the easiest Pokemon to deal with and her Dragoniars are all decent enough.

She's sure as fuck harder than Iris was.

>>28353008
Im saving that peegle 2 file, tyvm

>>28353788
It does, but it's not like you're forced to endlessly grind on them. You can do the same for most games with trainer rematches anyway gen 2 for maximum suffering

>>28353448
The game is probably not balanced to do that, just like XY. You will end up with 3 overleveled pokemon stomping everything.

>>28353794
>B2W2 Challenge mode is more difficult than Platinum.
Except it isn't. The challenge mode isn't even harder than Emerald, and Platinum is leagues above Emerald in terms of difficulty.

>>28353808
I've never heard anybody ever complain about Clair. Whitney, of course, but Clair? Seriously?

>>28353823
Having recently played through XY with Exp. Share turned off, you don't actually end up overleveled.
Stop regurgitating talking points you've read on this board.

>>28353820
>endlessly grind on them
Dude knock out one that is barely higher level than you and you shot up like 5-8 levels. It was stupid.

>>28353480
When did kids become such retards they can't handle hard games?
Fuck Pokémon was never even hard to begin with. It was just less easy.

>>28353830
>I played Emerald when I was a kid and it was hard, so it's a really difficult Pokemon game!

After reading this thread, /v/ was right in saying this board is filled with insufferable gen 5 faggots.
Holy shit.

>>28353843
I've played it with EXP share off and I actually came out overleveled.
It only doesn't happen if you don't fight every trainer.
You have to avoid fights and avoid catching pokemon if you don't want to be overleveled in XY

>>28353835
Kingdra's kind of a bitch since it's only weak to Dragon and if you have anything with Outrage at that point, you're already overleveled past the point of challenge.

>>28353808
>Kingdra is hard
It only resists Steel, Fire and Water. A stab is still a stab even if its neutral.

>>28353856
>Gen 5 was my first gen and I'm barely not underage for this board, so I'm going to pretend they're hard even though literally nobody but me has ever said anything similar

Easy tbqhwy.

>>28353852
>Dude knock out one that is barely higher level than you and you shot up like 5-8 levels.
Try playing BW/BW2 again and not base your replies off of vague memories of a game you played years ago.

>>28353808
>Clair's
>not Juan's
Get this hot head out of here. And even then both are painted in different coats of bullshit. Clair you have to deal with a shit level curve while Juan's is game of LOLCAN'THITME.

>>28353871
You don't need to hit it super-effectively, you just need to smack it a few turns since it has shit for moves. Seriously nigga?

>>28353861
Here's your (You). Don't spend it all in one place, little buddy.

>>28353863
B/W is the only ones Ive played that made it hard to avoid trainer battles.

>>28353863
I've caught every unique Pokemon on every Route, avoided killing any other wild Pokemon outside of Wobuffet and Dugtrio, and fought every trainer.

I've also been under leveled or evenly leveled when compared to gym trainers/leaders.
I was 5 levels below the second gym leader.

>>28353371

Probably because this one faggot won't stop sayin it

>>28353905
He's not wrong, though.

>>28353919
(You)

>>28353919
I know he's not, but he's still trying to grab replies. You can't honestly say that people here aren't insufferable anyway though.

>>28353843
Did you battle every singe trainer? Did you not run from wild pokémon battles? Because that's what I tried doing, with a team of 3 and no exp share, and yeah my pokemon became overleveled.

I didn't need to read it on this board, because with a game this retardedly easy you don't need to be a genius to figure out you should try using less pokemon. Only to find out they fucked that up as well.

>>28353913
You do realize you're arguing with the same ass hurt B&W lover who is in every thread to defend his mediocre games, right?

>>28353879
>Everyone who disagrees with me is the same person

>>28353946
Gen 5 is my favourite generation, so I don't really appreciate your reply.

I'm just not a mindless drone who parrots everything that's said on this board.

>>28353256
>>Guzma expects you to be weak
Guzma probably uses Ariados because it has a skull/face on it's butt. His other Pokemon is probably Duskull or something else because skulls are cool.

>>28353946
see >>28353964

>>28353938
You're right, every gen has its own share of insufferable fuckwits. Gen 5 just seems to have the majority.

>>28353944
See >>28353913

>>28353981
Might be because Gen 5 was released around the time this board became a thing and post quality wasn't as bad.

>>28353971
Why don't you appreciate my reply? If you're not an asshurt drone then it shouldn't apply to you. I'm specifically pointing out that you're replying to a delusional fanboy that will outright lie to paint gen 6 in as bad a light as possible, even if it's untrue.

>>28354016
Gen 6 is pretty bad though.

>>28353971

Gen 5 was my favorite until I replayed BW and honestly I don't even want to touch BW2 again.

BW can go fuck itself. It's not hard, it hand holds early on really bad, stopped on every fucking route for cutscenes that mostly exist just for the same of existing, Team Plasma is just a boring redressed Team Galactic.

I honestly wish I hadn't touched it again.

>>28354045
>Team Plasma is just a boring redressed Team Galactic
wat
sounds like you're full of shit. I mean BW is shit but that just sounds like you're full of shit

>>28353852
This only happened if you were ridiculously underleved compared to the Pokémon, not "barely higher level".

>>28353944
>Because that's what I tried doing, with a team of 3 and no exp share, and yeah my pokemon became overleveled.
Pretty sure this normal because replaying a bunch of them I always end up overleveled unless EXP Share is a Held Item, then Im not so grossly overleveled (i.e 5~10 levels). Im replying original Red and just made it to the Team Rocket hideout in the Casino and my 3 only Pokes are 30. Ive been trying to avoid battles like the plague.

>>28354045
Are you me?
Admittedly, I did play B&W2 again and it certainly holds up better than B&W but the quality of the gen as a whole is certainly a step down from previous gens.

>>28353773
Both games notoriously establish a final boss in the marketing and through the story, only to have them defeated early on and the real threat shows up. In Okami you fight Orochi about 1/3rd of the way into the game even though he's supposed to be the big bad and in KIU you fight Medusa in chapter 7, after you beat her the credits roll but the true antagonist, Hades, literally rips the credits apart and the game continues up to chapter 27 if i'm not mistaken.

>>28354090
Hades was such an entertaining villain.

>>28353317
no it's fucking not, easy as.

>>28354069

They're the same fucking team with a different coat of paint.

They're both cults whose evil leader is pulling their strings and lying to them as he tries to achieve his own personal goal. The thing they lie about is different, but the core plot of "manipulated cult where the leader has a secret agenda" is the same. It's just redressed. And honestly for the worst. Cyrus is a far more nuanced villain than Ghetsis.

N stands out as different but that's really the only major departure. The basic plot is what I'm talking about.

At least the teams before had been their own unique thing.

>>28354213
>Cyrus is more nuanced than Ghetsis
explain please, Cyrus was incredibly flat

>>28354213
Also both the fake and true motives of these teams and their leaders are pretty different, which does offer some variety story wise.

But you're right the way it plays out is the same.

All right guys, for each specific generation which game was the most difficult? I'm going to marathon them all and see if my nostalgia's blinding me to the truth.

>rutile ruby and rising ruby are both a thing

Shit, which game is actually the much harder one? I downloaded rising ruby just because drayano made it. Is it worth changing if rutile ruby is harder?

>>28354233
Not him, but Cyrus has a goal he believes is the best for the world. Not to mention he is a weird guy with weird ideals.
Not terribly nuanced, but Ghetsis was all about getting power and ruling, which is a simpler more standard goal.

I still like Ghetsis more though, for how much of a dick he is.

>>28353485
>pokemon "catch a level 70 legendary before elite 4" emerald
>hard

>>28354252
From my experience, gen 1. Because I was a little shit at the time who kept getting lost in Cerulean Cave.

>>28354233

Ghetsis is a literal mustache twirler.

Cyrus is a depressed sociopath. When you talk to people around Sinnoh you learn a lot more about him, including details regarding his childhood and upbringing and why is the way he is. He's not really flat, he's just apathetic to most of the world around him.

Ghetsis on the other hand is literally just "HAHA I'M EVIL!"

>>28354281
>>28354270
ah, I see. thanks anons

>>28354281
>Cyrus isn't a mustache twirler
Yeah. The guy you walk up to after he gives a false speech about making a world for Team Galactic who says he wants to be a god of a new world isn't a cartoon villain.
C'mon now.

>>28352364
Would remind me of Black and White 2, where you would fight Black/White Kyurem which is easy, then you would fight Ghetsis right after with his fucking life orb Hydreigon

>>28354279
No, what I mean is for each generation which game of the games in those gens is the most difficult? For example, in RBY, are R/B or Yellow more difficult? I'm rolling with Platinum and Emerald because they're obviously more difficult than the main ones but for the others I've got no clue.

>>28354243

I agree with that, which is why I used base-plot specifically.

It's the structure and reused idea that bothers me.

The other teams are generally all different. Flare retreads a lot of the same concepts as these two though and it's bothersome.

Rocket, on the other hand, is just a criminal organization. Magma and Aqua are essentially ecoterrorists. The groups are unique and different.

Skull being pirates, even if they are retreading Rocket in a way, is such a nice change of pace. And Aether being a group of potential mad scientists is also a chance of pace.

I'm so happy we're not doing cult for a third fucking time.

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>>28352054
Pic related seems quite difficult
>Totem School form Wishiwashi
>Will get a stat boost in the beginning of the battle
> it's raining, powering up Wishiwashi even more
>will most likely call in another wishiwashi which may or may not be able to go into school form

>>28354309
Ah, misread, my apologies.

Then I have no idea, sorry.

>>28354306

His plan was to create a world of no emotion so that everyone had to feel the way he did though. And it's tied to the character you learn about in the game itself.

There's a lot of in-game material that deals with why he is the way he is.

>>28354330
Why is she wearing a helmet? Is she a retard?

>>28354309
They're all really easy though. The only difficulty in pokemon is grinding to get a 'perfect'.

I love pokemon, they're a fun collect-a-thon RPG, but they're not hard at all.

>>28354416
Yes

>>28354330

Vikavolt is clearly going to get a Totem battle because Charjabug is created with powering up others in mind.

You also get one of these after every Trial Captain and there's a chance we could see a Captain of every type.

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>>28354330
It would be a real shame if surf was up my dudes

>>28354421
No, I know, I just want to check out which one is the most difficult. That's what this thread seemingly became about.

>>28354279
I have so lillet memory of my first time going through Cerulean Cave it's a bit disappointing. At the time I didn't know it was the final thing in the game, besides catching what was left, but I don't remember whether or not I got lost, or had trouble with the wild pokémon and mewtwo.

To me the peak of frustration playing Gen 1 as a kid was Seafoam Islands. I still dread the place to this day even if the puzzle and navigating it doesn't give me trouble anymore.

>>28354442
As a kid I remember going through Seafoam and being incredibly hyped when I caught Articuno.

Then I killed Mewtwo by having my Graveler explode on him.

>>28354463
I caught Mewtwo with the Master Ball, and I remember weakening it first just to be sure.

>>28353480
They'd get my dollar if they'd atleast bother to add a Challenge Mode with some actual resistance in its battles.

>>28354252

I think they're all pretty easy with Platinum being the hardest.

RBY had some nice big dungeons that are easy to get lost in if you didn't know where you were going though. Seafoam and the Unknown Dungeon can be brutal for a first time player.

It's not gunna stop your fuckers from using fully even trained pseudo legends and legendaries is it though?

>>28353683

>Clair
>hard

Can't remember if I swept that with Jynx spamming Ice Punch on the dragonites and Psychic on the Kingdra or Starmie doing the same thing only with Ice Beam and Psychic.

>>28353242
Blame Mt. Coronet

>>28353043
>Gen V they at least had the decency to give rematcheable characters full teams in the rematches. Gen VI couldn't even do that.

Isn't ORAS Gen VI?
You can rematch the Elite 4 in that, they have full teams.

Why had gen V been the boogeyman/scapegoat generation lately?

>ywn struggle in a pokemon game ever again against a gym leader or enemy team

>>28354841

You always demonize the games two generations before. First it was Johtoddlers, then Hoennbabbies, etc.

>>28354905
>struggling in a pokemon game
>ever
I can understand struggling when you first played pokemon when you were 8, but going back and playing through the whole series, the games aren't difficult in the slightest unless you self impose difficulty with a nuzlock or monotype run or something.

>>28354905

I'm playing through Volt White right now and enjoying the difficulty. BW really was too easy, even going through on my first time without overleveling, but I really like the music and locations. It's comfy. Plus it introduced a lot of mons that I really like.

>>28353317
>>28353261
To be honest, I don't remember the pokemon games to be difficult at all in any possible way. Platinum was no different. I found black/white to be harder for a nuzlocke challenge though.

>>28353674
Non anon. When you have the choice, you should base your actions assuming the best, always. But never forget to think about the worst.

>>28354267
rutile ruby is harder, i think. i tried meme sapphire(star's trainers+sinking's pokemon rebalancing) after finishing my rutile run, and it was definitely easier. i was sweeping everything with acrobatics jumpluff, so i dropped it after a bit. it would have gotten easier too, once it learned extremespeed to go with aerilate. rutile is better if you want challenge, rising(or meme sapphire) is better if you have an underpowered bro you want to be viable.

>>28354908
This. In five or six years everyone will be shitting on SM.

>>28354908
Well i'm still shitting on ruby and sapphire. Those games are the worst.

>>28352397
Don't forget illegal movesets or giving the second gym leader shit like flamethrower.

Also everytime I see someone irl who complains about the difficulty of the main game they also complain about online matches are full of "tryhards" because they can't win with their main game team with only offensive moves.

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>>28352054
are you a new player ?

Guzma should be in the mid 50s and have five pokemon when you first face him

>>28352422
It's called romhacking. BW2 challenge mode is proof that GF don't know the definition of difficulty.

>>28352054
Hey gen 5 at least had 6 Pokemon rematches for everyone.

also they only had 150~ Pokemon to work with

>>28352170
>>28352179
>>28352341
Because Gen V E4 were followed by N and Ghetis, so it was a league of 6 trainers instead of 5.

>>28357204
>Gen 1 Champion had 18 pokemon
>Gen 5 champions only had 12
>Gen 6 champ only had 6
um...

>>28357497
> blue has 18 pokemons
this made me so mad as a kid, it was indeed a long fight.

>>28357497
Are you special or something?

We've felt like a lot more underaged recently

>>28353485
You do know that Emerald gives you fug before the e4?