Soon

>>28324289
Gen 4 is shit.
Pls stop

>>28324289
If this was true ORAS wouldn't be hated the day it came out

Gen 5 is the most popular on /vp/

leave

>>28324289
Worst gens are entirety of 6 and Sinnoh gen 4.

Gen 4 really is the best.
But only because of the gen 2 remakes.

6 was considered the worst ever since its release

5 is either loved or hated, nothing in between

people who like 3 dislike 4 and vice versa

your arrows dont make sense

>>28324289
Stop forcing the Zelda Cycle on Pokemon because people don't like your fav Gen

>>28324289
There is literally no incentive to play X and Y over any other game once SM come out

>>28324289
IV>III>I>V>IV>II

>>28324508
Gen 4's on there twice you faggot

Is that how bad gen 6 is, it doesn't even rank?

>>28324508
>IV is better than IV
what?

>>28324345
DP and HGSS were shit tier, but Platinum was god tier.

gen1 was very bland in comparison to the others but can we agree that Hoenn is by far the worst?

its been over 10 years

>>28324289
Gen4 was fucking comfy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfQBJub1rew

>>28324825
Nah. Sinnoh was the worst region.

Unova > Kanto > Johto > Hoenn > Kalos > Orre >>>>>>>>>> Sinnoh

>>28324441
I like all of those generations

>>28324441
6 is garbage but 3 and 4 are both great, stop with your "pick a side" garbage

>>28324289
>Gen 6
Nobody likes gen 6.

>>28325383
They will once Gen 8 is coming out and everyone's moved on to hating Gen 7.

>>28325186
>Kanto and Unova that high

Opinion discarded

>>28324289
This image is a meme.

People praise Plat and HGSS and have since their inceptions.

People praise BW2 and have since its inception.

People bash DP.

People bash BW although it has generally been split down the middle.

I can see the hate for gen 6 lessening as we move away from it in the coming years, but I predict it will always leave an unfavorable taste due to its barebones and unfinished feel despite the new mechanics added.

>>28325186
Unova > Sinnoh > Hoenn > Kanto > Orre >>>>>>>>>> Johto

>>28324616
Really close, but not quite there yet

>Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
>Generally shit, only babies think they're good

>HG/SS
>Actually very good, last good remakes.

Overall Gen 4 is average. I prefer 3 and 2.

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>>28325480

>>28324931
fuck your earthbound shit

THIS is comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_91JEnNZzEE

>>28325511
I genuinely pity you if you think I was trolling

>>28325480
I would re-rank platinum away from DP putting them as an above average generation

>>28325550
I genuinely pity you if you arent

>>28324289
But gen 4 was the best generation.

Johto>Orre (pls no bully)>Hoenn>Kalos=Kanto>Unova>Sinnoh

>>28325643
>Orre
objectively shit taste

>>28324335
>ORAS was hated.

What's up with this meme? I mean other than Hoennbabbies being Hoennbabbies, most people online like it more than XY.

>>28325770
It is a letdown compared to other remakes because of Masuda's new "nobody has time for games anymore" mentality

4 is best gen
5 is best games

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>>28324508
>>28326040
We need to split /vp/ board. There's no co-existing with Sinnhoes.

>>28324289
>people still post this even though it's been proven wrong
literally just swap best and worst THEN you've got the correct one

>>28325920
>Masuda's new "nobody has time for games anymore" mentality

Literally what?

>>28326418
He said something about there being too much choice or some shit so games have to be shorter but better because people don't have time to autistcally play 80 hours RPGs anymore.

>>28324451
Zelda Cycle's not real either.

>>28326350
>objectively best meta
>best starters (fuck off they are)
>platinum and Hgss are solid games
I started with gen 1 and still think 4 is best gen

3 > 5 > 4 > 1 > 2 > 6

4 is only that high because of hgss, sinnoh a shit

Nobody liked gen 6 overall, not even from the beginning

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Can someone please explain to me, with a modicum of intelligence, why gen 4 specifically the Sinnoh region is considered bad? Every single thread is just "LUL XD Sinnoh a shit gen 4 suxx 420 VAPEnaytion, can't wait for ya boi." I understand hating a region is purely subjective but just try and at least gather your thoughts thoroughly and explain your opinion to me. I'm genuinely curious.

>>28324289
>OmegaRubyAlphaSapphire
Hated by fans expecting Emerald with HGSS-esque improvements. Other fans don't care though.
>XY
Hated by fans for having no identity and just being an empty game. Bad follow up from gen5.
>Black2White2
Loved by fans. GF's love letter to the fans. Suffers from BW/Gen5 haters though.
>BlackWhite
Love it or hate it. Literally Black or White.
>HeartGoldSoulSilver
Hands down the fanbase's favorite games.
>Platinum
Hidden gem because few people played it (suffers from Crystal/Emerald syndrome)
Amazing game compared to DP. Overall it is eh.
>DiamondPearl
Probably the most hated games (maybe tied with XY)
>Emerald
Hidden gem because few people played it (few people wanted to play Hoenn again)
>FireRed/LeafGreen
Definitely up there for favorite game amongst fans. Definitive RB games makes it a genwunner magnet.
>Ruby/Sapphire
Okay game. Outclassed by Emerald. Was the final nail in the coffin that split the fanbase.
>Crystal
Hidden gem. Came out at the end of the gameboy's lifetime.
>Gold/Silver
Until HGSS came out the fanbase's favorite game. Fanbase started to split.
>Yellow
Pikachu.
>Red/Blue/(Green)
Started Pokémania.
My favorite game/gen is BW/B2W2 gen5
My first game was Blue
Least favorite game(s) are XY/DP

R8 AND H8

>>28328366
mostly the arguments come down to
>it's slow
>muh fire types
>muh cross gen evos

>>28328472
>Emerald
>Hidden gem
nigga more people suck Emerald's dick here than a group of professional faggots at a dick sucking contest.

>>28328576
think of the fanbase as a whole. not just /vp/

>>28328585
/vp/ is the only pokemon community i participate in, so I wouldn't know what the rest of them like or don't like. I didn't realise you weren't only referring to here.

>>28328472
This is all true. I'm falling in love for you.

>>28324289
I'll always love gens 4 and 5 no matter how much bandwagoning fags start being annoying.

>>28325186
>Kanto that high
Take of your nostalgia glasses.

>>28328548
Ok, I can agree with the slowness and the overall pacing of the game. The lack of fire types was quite annoying I'll admit, particularly for me because fire is my favorite type, and that resulted in Flint having disgusting team in DP. But the cross gen evos are by far one of the best parts of the region, enhancing existing designs to make them viable. What's wrong with that? None of these factors in my opinion are a deal breaker in anyway. Just mild annoyances at most.

>>28328687
don't get me wrong, i love the sinnoh games, those are just the arguments i encounter most often. to me the slowness is comfy, i agree with you that the cross gen evos are great, and i can handle lack of fire types (especially as it was somewhat fixed by platinum).

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>>28328657
This. Muh nigga.

>>28328366
>Poor pokemon distribution - geodude and zubat fucking everywhere, even outside of caves
>Suffers from Johto syndrome, where there's not enough new pokemon and a lot of the new pokemon are hidden in rare spots while Kanto shitmons are everywhere
>Abominations like Rhyperior
>No fire types
>Slow
>Rocks everywhere
>Too many mountains
>Too many HMs, and you have to use them way too often, which exacerbates the slowness
>Inspired, fun areas like the swamp and the snow routes are a disappointing tease of what the region could have been instead of all of the geodude caves and shit

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>>28324289


4 > 5 > the rest equally

I don't give a fuck.

>>28328740
Nothing /u/ in the slightest is happening in this picture whatsoever.

>>28328740
great taste
also that picture is adorable

>>28324289
>Sun and Moon are currently looking more hype than any game so far
>in 3+ years it will be bashed for lacking some feature, or whatever reason

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>>28328749

Yeah, just a 4th gen sleepover.

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>>28328736
I appreciate your input Anon. While there are quite a few things on your list I find to be just nitpicking, I'm not disregarding your opinion by any means. I'm currently doing a run through of platinum after a long while and I'm gonna keep your criticisms in the back of my mind while I play. Maybe I'll see it in a way I didn't before, but I know that my personal favorite regions are Sinnoh and Kalos so I definitely have a personal bias. Thanks. I'm just glad I could get a detailed response instead of "you have shit taste kid lol"

m,m,

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>>28328803
Gen 4 comfy thread now?

>>28328472
Overall I'd say it's pretty accurate. Also definitely goes to show that the fanbase wants the post-game, both games that are most beloved by hardcore fans (HGSS/B2W2) have the most expanse and complete post-games, damn near being complete games on their own.

Sinnoh has one of the best post games in the whole series. If you hate it you're nothing but a shitty tasteless faggot

People that say gen 4 was good only played platinum and hgss.
Diamond and pearl were shit.

R/S were the worst paired pokemon games for their time. One step forward, two steps back. Dont see how anyone who played gens 1 and 2 can look back on them fondly.

D/P were a step up gameplay-wise, but gen IV was the low point for Pokemon designs.

>>28329459
i bought diamond on release day and still like gen 4 so fuck you

>>28328366
Been playing since gen one and for me the region just felt like a chore. I got bored and stop playing far more than any other game. Also worst starters.
HG/SS were great though, if those can be considered gen 4.

>>28328472
Accurate as fuck, I guess there are just a lot of vocal minorities that started the games at different points in the series.

Saved pasta.

>>28324289
No one calls gen 4 great though

>>28325418
>People praise Plat and HGSS and have since their inceptions.
Someone wasn't there for the announcements and leaks.
If only you knew the disappointment of Platinum

>>28328218
pre team-preview meta was an entirely different game. It was unbelievably luck based and shallow compared to the newer metas.

I know, I know
>muh weather
>muh megas

Gen 4 is my favourite gen but Comp Pokemon has only been getting better. Physical special split made it the biggest improvement over the previous meta but definitely not "objectively best meta"

>>28328218
>>objectively best meta
Yeah for about a year and then Plat fucked it up.
>best starters (fuck off they are)
They really aren't. Torterra and Empoleon are nearly as bad as the gen 2 starters and infernape was a Blaziken clone. At least shit like Emboar tried to be different in use.
>platinum and Hgss are solid games
By barely touching the issues DP had and filling it with gimmicks and missed potential like the distortion world.
Not to mention HGSS was nearly the exact same game as Crystal.

>>28329487
>but gen IV was the low point for Pokemon designs.

I'd still give that to Gen 5. Yeah, it has gems like Excadrill, Galvantula, Chandelure and Volcarona, but it's largely drowned out by shit.

>>28324289
no one called gen 6 best gen ever

actually every one is shitting on it the past 2 years

so your chart is stupid

I know this is /vp/ so you guys mostly base yourself off the hardcore fans, but DP was pretty popular with casuals. Kids who left after RBY or GS were now in college and came back for DP. Kids born in 2000 played Pokemon for the first time with DP. It was the first Pokemon game on DS, the best-selling handheld ever. It's the only gen that sold more than the previous gen. There's a lot of nostalgia for it.

>>28328366
Can someone explain to me with a modicum of intelligence why you still exist?
People have gone over why gen 4 was bad over and over again and all that comes of it are people like you who completely gloss over all of the flaws, downgrades and outright bad decision that are brought up in this conversation.

>>28330524

I liked it because it was the first time I felt connected, since none of my RL friends enjoyed pokémon past gen 1 I played gen 2/3 mostly alone.
Also, Sinnoh was comfy as fuck. I'm a sucker for snowy terrains and the mountain you have to ascend that's sitting in the middle of everything is a nice organic zenith of the game.

>>28328366
Okay
>cluttered and poorly designed region filled with constant dead ends and back tracking making basic progression feel like a chore
>over reliance of HMs
>contests casualized
>BF casualized
>bases stripped of features and reduced to a square layout for every room
>underutilised elements like the distortion world
>poketch was filled with useless apps
That's only the surface.

>>28324289
Actually that works with Zelda games. Not so much with Pokémon.


Especially since we can all agree that Gen 6 is fucking cancer. :^)

>>28328917
>While there are quite a few things on your list I find to be just nitpicking,
Can we just ban people like you?
You're basically saying that games should be flawed and if you don't like it you're nitpicking.

>>28329487
>R/S were the worst paired pokemon games for their time. One step forward, two steps back.
Other way around. It's two steps forward and one step back.
RS made several leaps in the series at the cost of one or two gimmicks after all.

Did people actually dislike gen 2 when 3 was out? I can't really see that happening

So true

>>28330581
This is a good point as well. Gen4 was the first game to let you play multiplayer without a cable, the first one to have online, and it was on the most popular handheld ever so you were more likely to know someone else with it. For a lot of people, Gen 4 was the first time they got to experience Pokemon as a multiplayer game.

I like all gens to be quite honest

>>28330499
I think V has both more good designs and more shit then IV, just because it has so damn many mons.

I have a hard time making a team of 6 out of gen IV mons, and it has the worst fucking starters. V also get some points for not ruining any classic designs with ugly fucking evos.

>>28330673
Not really.
I remember people disliking gen 3 even when it came out. Not really hating it, but complaints about the water already existed.
I don't remember people hating 4 when it came out; only after HGSS and Gen 5 came out.

>>28330524
>but DP was pretty popular with casuals.
Yeah no. It was still sold well because it was pokemon and on one of the best selling handhelds but the only thing the masses latched on to was Lucario. After about a week of being out the opinions came out and everyone was calling it bad because it was essentially just a worse RS in terms of content.

>>28330673
Initially people had a dislike for gen 3 because of the no transferral but after release it quickly shifted to gen 2 and how short it felt by comparison.

>>28330711
Most casuals had never played RS to begin with, how the fuck would they compare it to that.

>>28330680
>Gen4 was the first game to let you play multiplayer without a cable,
That goes to FRLG and then Emerald.

>>28330735
You do realise that there's about a 1 million difference in users right?
Meaning casuals still stuck to the series.
Then there's the fact that even then RSE were the most downloaded games on rom sites.

More people were exposed to gen 3 than you think.

>>28324289
Do people actually take these cycles seriously?
My opinion on the games has never changed throughout the years.

>>28324289
4 is best, 3 is worst

>>28326350
I'm both a genwunner and a Sinnohfetus, Hoenbabbies BTFO

>>28330809
That's not what the fanbase says.

>>28330842
>/vp/ is one person

>>28328472
I love your factual opinions, thank you.

>>28330424
Sinnohfetus's are the second largest genwar faction on /vp/. There are tons of threads and post every day about how great Sinnoh is and how everyone who hates it is wrong.

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>>28324508
>The Phantom Menace that high

>>28325412
gen 7 is going to be the best gen ever

>>28330849
>implying I was talking about /vp/
There's a reason no one talks about gen 4 outside of here.

>>28330440
HGSS was literally the reason /vp/ was created, the hype was too much for /v/. I remember being an ardent shitposter, wasting hours upon hours in every forum I knew of calling for gold and silver to be remade. And the games fucking delivered, I hadn't spent that much time with a pokemon game since the original GSC and I probably never will again. I still replay heartgold from time to time. HGSS will remain god-tier for me until the day I die.

>>28330892
It's called a vocal minority anon.
That said there aren't as many threads started you think.

>>28330774
Yeah, I think gen II is probably the most pirated generation. It's extremely popular in mobile emulators to this day.

>>28330916
>HGSS was literally the reason /vp/ was created, the hype was too much for /v/
That was black and white you retard.
HGSS was out before we came about.

>>28330903
Nice imaginary majority, just outside /vp/

>>28330774
RSE are the most downloaded because they're the most popular ROM base

>>28330634
Zelda doesn't really have generations unless you only count the non-handheld ones, though.

>>28330916
>HGSS released in 2009
>Black and White released in fall 2010
>/vp/ made in summer, 2010
Yeah no.

>>28330705
I think Gen IV had the best starters, it was the first gen where I liked them all equally instead of gravitating to one mon. Infernape was a less goofy Blaziken, Torterra was a world bearing turtle and Empoleon was a original design with a fucking trident worked in. I loved them all.
While I'll give you how Gen V had more mons, it also had a lot of mons that were basically gen 1 clones just shittier. Swoobat was a worse Golbat, Sawk and Throh (contestants for my personal shittiest designs folder) were just awful Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee, Conkeldurr was a worse Machamp, etc.
And for Gen IV's, I'd say the majority of the new cross-gen evos were good rather than bad.

>>28328736
Don't forget legendaries jumping the shark, and the beginning of unreleased event content.

>>28324289
People are going to like or dislike whatever they want but gen 6 was garbage no matter what comes next.

>>28330920
>vocal minority
>third best-selling gen

>>28330981
>Gen 4 literally has event locked forms
It's unforgivable.

>>28330670
>Day/Night Cycle
>connectivity
>gimmicks

>>28330938
Explain /tr/ nigga.

>>28330996
>only sold 1m more than RSE on one of the best selling handhelds to date
>forgotten or hated by most of the fanbase

>>28331008
Do you even know what /tr/ was out do you just want to out yourself as a retard?

>>28330997

FRLG started that trend, anon-kun
>Navel rock
>Birth island
>Southern Island (for RSE)
>Faraway Island (for E)

In fact, it was significantly more punch-in-the-balls than Gen IV's events were, because many of those islands could only be unlocked by attending some real life event without nearly any prior notice and for 3 days in total or something.

>>28330997
Just Platinum, you can change Rotom Forms at Sliph Co in game

>>28331004
Connectivity was still a thing anon. You're speaking about transfers that weren't possible because of hardware issues.

As for day and night, yes it was a gimmick. If it doesn't affect the game in any meaningful way it's a gimmick.

>>28331016
>"the fanbase"
>muh /vp/, we fucking love gen 5, everyone agrees with us let's just ignore it sold like shit

>>28331040
I feel you man. I missed the Deoxys event because I didn't have FRLG when it came out and Ruby wasn't compatible. I got emerald but all the yearly nintendo events for teh next years were direct giveaways. Even when the magazines hyped faraway island in emerald, they ended up doing a Mew giveaway for all gen III games instead of giving the old sea map. At least I managed to get a Ho-Oh on the tenth anniversary,Ii hadn't managed to get one in my gen III games and the Gold nostalgia hurt.

>>28324289
Gen 1 is the real worst gen

>>28331040
>In fact, it was significantly more punch-in-the-balls than Gen IV's events were, because many of those islands could only be unlocked by attending some real life event without nearly any prior notice and for 3 days in total or something.
Yeah no. Those were actual event pokemon anon and they've been a thing since gen 1. I'm taking about the Rotom forms in Plat and Giratina in HGSS. You could obtain the base pokemon but their forms were locked entirely to events.

>>28331064
>implying /vp/ is the entire fanbase
>implying the Japanese fanbase didn't hate gen 4 the most

>>28331063
Its just that anyone who uses gimmicks to describe some feature that was removed or not in the game they like seen to do so purely with the implication that it wasn't a big deal it was gone, or something

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What if I like gen 4 and 5?

>>28331136
One question.
What do you think was removed in gen 3?

>>28324508
> IV>IV

Thanks for nothing

I don't think any old gen is really bad. The most controversial gens seems to be 3 and 4, and ultimately it's because it's mostly for subjective reasons; something that really bothers someone could not be a problem for someone else, while someone could really like something unique about the game that someone else doesn't care about. It's essentially a game of "Do the good outweight the bad" and it ends up being really subjective. Gen 6 on the other hand is so poorly received unanimously because there's so much missing it's hard for the good to outweight the bad.

>>28331250
You should learn what subjective means.

>>28324289
Why is Gen 5 worst and not Gen 3 whose only redeeming quality was its Battle Facility?
Gen 6 should take the crown for worst though.

>>28330968
>/tr/

>>28331259
>based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
That's pretty much what I meant.

>>28331250
Gen VI was pretty well received outside of /vp/

I have casual friends who think its the best one yet, and it brought back more Genwuners then any other gen.

>>28330970
>a lot of mons that were basically gen 1 clones just shittier
>shittier
Yea I guess that's why Gen 1 pokemon remain vastly outclassing their Gen 5 counterparts, right?

>>28331111
I don't know they seem to hate Zinnia a fuck ton.

They made a wiki just to shit on her and found out a hentai author made her

>>28331259
>not Gen 3 whose only redeeming quality was its Battle Facility?
Because gen 3 also revamped the game, added abilities and natures, added permanent overworlds effects like rain and sandstorms, secret bases and contests. It also improved on things from gen 2 like the rematch system and berries.

>>28331287
I would be lying saying Gen 6 didn't get me back into Pokemon.

That being said they are some of the worst games out there. Everything feels so empty and unfinished

>>28331263
/tr/ wasn't a board, ever.

>>28331173
Multi-region(And it never came back). Retrocompatibility. Day and night cycle. The ability to access every area in the game without events. Pokegear phone and the ability to rematch. Story continuity. And most importantly Comfyness. Johto games are just chill and team rocket is a minor problem in what is mostly a stroll over a beautiful, peaceful and traditional region. Ever since gen III it's been save the world from the cover legendary every time.

>>28331296
They also complained about gen 4's region layout and the new safari zone so much that the game was made hyper linear in subsequent games and the entire safari zone was removed.

Zinnia is nothing compared to that.

>>28331287
They're the worst selling games in the franchise.

>>28331173
Transfers, Day/Night Cycle, for things that became standard.

Bear in mind that I don't actually care that much, but it seems like downplaying the removal of those for what ever reason

>>28331287
Gen 6 brought back the most casuals, since XY was made for Gen 1 casuals, ORAS was made for Gen 3 casuals and Go is a Gen 6 game

>>28331323
Tell the truth. Did you ever play gen 3?

>>28331365
Yes. emerald is probably the game I played most, behind HeartGold. I like gen III but it was kind of a gut punch coming from gen II.

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The reception to the upcoming gen so far says to me that it's probably going to blow the rest away. It's got something for everyone.

>>28331349
That's defiantly true, they were also really upset about no Hoenn game corner because of America and no substitute like in HGSS. Say what you will about it, they shoved that thing out during localization, they didn't attempt in ORAS

I value effort/care in games even if it's not great

>>28331360
They sold more then B2/W2 and HG/SS. They are not the best selling nor the worst.

>>28324289
>he doesnt know /vp/ is unovabortion central since 2010

>>28331410
Kek. Did you make this anon?

Gen2/remakes are obvs the best and most fav. Their art styles were superb. I mean truly, look on bulbapedia-crystal had and continues to have the best sprite work of any game. The innovations were amazing and not all 'interaction' heavy like recent gens, so people could enjoy playing by themselves. And we have yet to see a gen with a region with more charm and 'cosines' than johto and kanto

>>28331418
>the games that are responsible for making this board happen to have favoritism

Golly anon!

Also sinnoh is better than unova. I cannot understand how anyone is able to look past the horrific in-battle graphics

>>28331432

saw it on /v/ actually but I assume it's from here

>>28331410
> That pic

Fucking saved.

>>28331410
Hold up Gamefreak
There's still no pokemon I want to fuck this gen

>>28331504
>lurantis

>>28331515
Not with those Uncle Sam pants

>>28331323
>Multi-region(And it never came back).
Gimmick. It didn't add to the game. In fact I would say it's one of the main reasons why gen 2 felt so short.

>Retrocompatibility.
Hardware issues. In other words an acceptable loss.

>Day and night cycle.
Graphically, remember that the game still had time based events and that RSE were the only games that Umbreon and Espeon could be evolved in using the conventional methods.

>The ability to access every area in the game without events.
Okay so how does that count as a removal? Especially since Gen 2 did something similar with the GS ball and removing features for the western release of Crystal. By that logic retro compatibility can't be on there either.

>Pokegear phone and the ability to rematch.
So what you're saying is that you didn't play gen 3. Because not only was there a rematch system in RS but Emerald brought back the calls and was the first game to have gym leader rematches >>28331380 Don't lie now you've made a huge contradiction already.

>Story continuity.
It didn't exactly retcon anything anon so how is that a removal?

>Comfyness.
Fuck off. "Comfyness" is entirely subjective for example one could say that the wilderness, exploration and lore of Hoenn was considerably more "comfy" than Johto, especially since you could camp out in secret bases along the way. See?

>Ever since gen III it's been save the world from the cover legendary every time.
Yes and?
Pokemon that can do incredible things have been an element since gen 1. Instead of making the villain a generic saturday morning villain with a Dr. Claw mentality why not have them, you know, utilize the monsters the game has been named after?
I'll give you that Gen 4 did jump the shark a bit on that front however but later gens toned it down.

Anyway basically the only thing that was removed was retrocompatibility due to hardware issues between the GBA and GB/C

>>28331418
That's because we were literally made because the Black and White hype was too much for /v/ and there would be a fuck ton of threads at one time.

>>28331504

wait til corocoro senpai

>>28331418
so since conception?

>>28331572
I'm waiting. If they don't want to make a new one at least give me an Alolan form for a past pokewaifu.
I mean I'll buy the game anyway but it'd be nice.

I've never played the 6th gen games myself so I really have no opinion on them. It's probably mostly nostalgia but I really do like the first two generations a lot. They have obvious flaws like outdated mechanics, slow leveling in gen 2, way fewer moves, etc. and yet I've probably gone back and played these old games more than any other. The lack of much story or endless tutorials kept the gameplay simple and straight to the point which for me at least enhances the replay value.
Emerald was pretty great (what R/S should have been). For some reason though I could never get that into D/P/P. Maybe it's because that was the time when I lost interest in pokemon for a while but those games just don't hold my interest much. Gen 5 felt kind of mixed for me. I didn't care much for the characters and story though I applaud GF for trying to do something different. I also found most of the designs to be underwhelming so there weren't as many pokemon I wanted to catch. I thought the sequels were a step up though.
All in all though I don't get the fierce division among fans. The games seem pretty consistent in quality and there's really no single game that I outright hate though I like some better than others (HGSS ftw). All the gens have their pros and cons. Just my two cents...

>>28331538
The problem with the story, literally no one was from Kanto and never had any interactions with anyone else

Also you seem to be greatly undermining how much people didn't want to Abandon their Pokemon. Like I knew a few kids who didn't buy the games just for that.

The day and night cycle being removed was laziness. You can patch it on your GBA rom for like nothing at all

Also RS are the first games you can't catch every legendary and I understand pokenav would let you rematch, but Ove played through Emerald like 4 times and I've never rematched anyone

FRLG was good for rematches though

>>28331360
Nope, they sold more than Black and White

>>28331611
>The problem with the story, literally no one was from Kanto and never had any interactions with anyone else
Yes and?
That's still not a removal by any means. If anything you should be directing that at gen 2 and that rendition of Kanto.

>Also you seem to be greatly undermining how much people didn't want to Abandon their Pokemon.
You seem to be greatly undermining the fact that it was a hardware issue that was completely out of their hands to begin with. As much as you want to say it was purposely removed it was a side effect of Nintendo essentially revamping how link cables worked. Remember how data would transfer one at a time and desyncing was a thing back then? Yeah Nintendo changed that so everything was simultaneous. That's the part that didn't mesh with Pokemon.

>The day and night cycle being removed was laziness.
That's a big assumption on your part anon. Especially given the work that was put into gen 3. The stat system was reworked, they added abilities and natures, every Pokemon had new sprites as did the overworld unlike gen 2, there's new features like contests and secret bases and so on. Basically it was only removed because something had to give.

>Also RS are the first games you can't catch every legendary
That would be GSC as you were required to have RBY to complete the dex which included Mewtwo.
I suppose you could extend it back to RBY themselves with Mew but that's an event mon.

>and I understand pokenav would let you rematch, but Ove played through Emerald like 4 times and I've never rematched anyone
So it's basically it's just you being woefully ignorant or lazy and passing it off as a "removal" instead of the improvement that it was.

>FRLG was good for rematches though
Hardly, half the time the VS. Seeker would pick up no one and you would have to run around to charge it again.

>>28331703
No, but they sold almost as much.

X & Y were the worst selling gen launchers, but they still sold more then any of the remakes and B2/W2.

Source: http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon

>>28331763
B2 and W2 were the third version if their gen, that's like comparing Crystal to Ruby and Sapphire.
XY is lucky it didn't have a sequel because that would've bombed so hard.

>>28331760
>defends RSE rematch system
>Calls FRLG system shitty

At this point I'm sure this is just looking for (you)'s

So here (you) go

Now fuck off

>>28331703
>14.98 million is more than 15.60 million
It's close but no. There's a small chance it may outsell them but with ORAS and the upcoming Sun and Moon it's pretty slim.

>>28331763
Don't use vgsales It's almost always wrong
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/3ds.html
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/ds.html

>>28331798
Eshop sales probably out them over

>>28331798
>vgsales It's almost always wrong
But those both give the same sales for X/Y

>>28331829
>*Software units include the downloadable versions.

>>28331763
Im really surprised at how low FR/LG and HG/SS sold. Do casuals hate remakes or something?

>>28331862
Almost always doesn't mean always anon.

>>28331904
Then why should you list them as a reliable source

>>28331904
But at least for the DS and 3DS games there are no discrepancies between these two sources.

>>28331869
Oh huh

>>28331913
Because VGsales update at random intervals and often assume based on guesswork. They haven't even updated Black and White despite updating XY and ORAS.

>>28331976
Oh I misinterpreted as VG facts being reliable this times.

>>28331798
>ORAS sales are that high
Huh.

>>28331037
The vp before vp was vp, called team rocket and occurring during HGSS era, because the introductory sticky was the team rocket radio tower broadcast.

>>28331599
>give me an Alolan form for a past pokewaifu.
Oooh, but who to choose, and what?

This DP shit posting is disgusting. DP were fantastic. Sinnoh was great and gen 4 was the best gen.

I will admit it was the gen where the legendaries started going to shit though.

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>>28333895
>thinking /tr/ was a thing before /vp/

>>28331319
Nigga I posted there. Don't give me that. What kind of kaloszygote are you?

>>28335379
>being too newfag to know about /tr/

>>28336771
>>28336747
>not knowing that the board link was still /vp/ when they changed the top part to /vp/
>not knowing that it only lasted a few days at the most
How new are you two exactly?

This board literally started as /vp/ and the part that says "/vp/ - Pokemon" at the top of the page was the only part that changed.
I bet you don't even remember the Bill sticky.

>>28324344
It's pretty shit tho
Gen 4 was definitely alot better

>>28337170
>Gen 4
>good

>>28325571
A resonable anon

>>28337188
>being this meme

>>28324508
V>IV>VI>III>II>I

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>>28324441
>people who like 3 dislike 4 and vice versa

>>28330479
if it had team preview it would have been the best

>Gen4
>Best gen ever
HG/SS are great, Platinum is a heaven gift.

D/P will forever be the worst mainline base games, ever.

Can't be best gen like that.

>>28324441
>peoole who like 3 dislike 4 and vice versa
Wrong

>>28339709
people*

>>28328977

HG/SS had a postgame? Other than leader rematches not else comes to mind.

>>28329487

Yeah, gonna have to agree here.

>>28340823
Kanto is Post Game also the Battle Frontier.

>>28330893
Underrated post.

>>28330711

See, when Ruby and Sapphire came out around here people were...oddly still into pokemon. Then a lot of people I knew dropped off here and didn't pick it back up for a long time, mostly for lack of interest. Short games, not an impressive amount of content, and didn't deliver on the idea that the games were going to keep getting better.

After the clear progress in generation II people were put off. I even liked it, but people just kinda didn't play Gen III around here and it made trading a bitch.

>>28339628
This exactly

>>28340823
>HG/SS had a postgame?
Depends on if you count the postgame as after beating the Johto league, or after beating Red. If its the former, then HG/SS have the most extensive postgame of really any Pokemon game.

There was also the Battle Frontier.

>>28324441
Emerald and Platinum are the two best games.

>>28340823
HG/SS is shit because it's post game fucked the level curve of the actual game.

>>28340929

I have a hard time counting battle frontier as any manner of postgame, mostly because its go a place and fight battles of(varying difficulty).

By the same token, anything with a battle facility has post game. Variance is good, but a fair amount of them(in both incarnations) were shit as facilities and not really all that fun and or challenging if you understood how the game worked.

If we do count it as a solid postgame, just on the battle frontier(as Kanto just felt like a B part, rather than a postgame), Sinnoh has the same post game.

>>28341046
>>28340823
Anything inaccessible until after the end credits is post-game