prove me wrong

>>28321547
Well done anon

>Pokemon Steel Part of the Eevee Chimera versions not in God Tier
>Diamond and Pearl 2 tiers below Platinum

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Red and blue should be in shit tier.

>>28321588
>Diamond and Pearl 2 tiers below Platinum

Yes?

Each Pokemon game has been incrementally better than the last. Pretending that B2W2, or heaven forbid, HGSS, are better than XY or ORAS is just ridiculous.

You can't even use the "muh battle frontier" argument for ORAS because B2W2 didn't have it either, they had the Pokemon World Tournament, which was little more than a nostalgia-pandering waste of time.

ORAS is average, at the very least.
No way XY are worse than DP.
HGSS deserves to be slightly above B2W2 because it has nostalgia and the Pokéwalker going for it too.

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>>28321547
XY up to bad
New tier between Great and Okay with FRLG in it
Pretty good familia

>>28321588
>Diamond and Pearl 2 tiers below Platinum

Platinum is DP done right the same way Emerald is Ruby/Sapphire done right

>>28321600
lol nothing is as shit as 6th gen

>>28321623
>it's newer so it's better

What world do you live in?

Next you're going to tell me FF13 is better than FF7

>>28321710

He literally said each pokemon game, not each game.

>>28321616
They're basically the same games outside of some aesthetic differences, trainer sets and the distortion world. Oh and the Battle Frontier people complain isn't as good as the Emerald one anyways.

This "Diamond and Pearl are literally unplayable but Platinum is a god among games" meme made no sense to begin with, I don't know how it got so far. Diamond and Pearl should be on the Okay tier at least.

>>28321623
>"BW2 has one small part of it that is nostalgia-pandeing, therefore it's bad"
>defending a game that has megas just to make Charizard relevant again

>>28321547
Pretty good. FRLG and ORAS could move up a spot and since BW1 is my favourite I'd move it up too.

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>Gen 1 above anything

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>>28321547
you are not wrong, but you arent right either, there's no absolute answer for the apreciation of a videogame and the subjectivity of the concept of fun for each individual, also you are a fgt

>>28321781
I thought it was the opposite, that people worship it because it AVOIDS nostalgia pandering and instead shoves brand new Pokémon in your face (not as much as BW1 though).

>>28321757
It's not a god game. It's just great. It says it right there. "great tier"

>>28321547
bump platinum up and rby down and it's perfect

>>28321881
People worship it because it's the only game good at storytelling and one of the few that is actually challenging. Also, BW2 does have pokemon from previous generations. That's a great influence as to why it's above BW1.

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Easy.

>>28321547
Move Platinum, Red, Blue, Fire Red and Leaf Green down one, and move ORAS up one.

Other than that... nice fucking list anon, 10/10

>>28321954
>only game good at storytelling
Anon, you're forgetting that BW1 is the game with the good story. BW2 largely relies on Memory Link and familiarity with BW1, and otherwise has an average-tier storyline, which was a main point of criticism when it was released.

>>28321962
This list is much, much better. As much as I wanted to love Kanto, RBY hold up the worst out of all the games in the series.

>>28321547
Explain to me how the fuck can you rank the original RS below ORAS, when ORAS are a direct improvement to them.

Otherwise decent list, though I'd rank XY above DP because DP were awful, slow shit that Platinum had to fix.

>>28322058
To play devil's advocate, it's probably from a perspective of how R/S seemed at the time of release, and how ORAS didn't use Emerald content even though many people think they should have.

>>28321962
/thread

>>28321962
/thread

>>28321547
Swap God and Shit tier and you have an okay list

>>28321547
General sentiment is right but you're being too harsh on gen 6. Drop the original R/S into bad tier, move OR/AS into okay tier and X/Y into bad tier. Get rid of the shit tier, none of the games are that exceptionally bad.

>XY
>bad
nice joke nigger

>>28321623
No, each game would be better than the last if it was say, Mario and had the same setting, characters and available pool of mons. But this is not the case. Its not constant additions, but different things each time. And no, XY's stories, region and characters are not better than HGSS or BW2

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>>28322137
>Gen VI
>God tier

Personally, I'd merely rank BW1 as "good", since the decision to only use new Pokémon (with lots of poorly-designed and not very popular ones at that) has made the games not age well.

But Unovabortions think that they're among the greatest games, and only lose to their sequels and possibly HGSS/Platinum/Emerald.

>>28322157
This, though my opinion on BW is above.

>>28322058
ORAS is worse than Ruby. They downleveled the Pokemon of every fucking trainer of the region and then gave you Megas so that you could curbstomp them and feel a false sense of accomplishment. Most puzzles are gone, Mirage Tower is gone, Safari is gone and they figured out a way for Contests to be even worse than they used to be. Also, Zinnia.

>>28321547
you forgot one tier

>elder god tier
>sun and moon

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>Gen V
>belonging anywhere but Shit Tier

>>28321757
Platinum gave much better teams to every gym leader and elite 4 member.

I don't understand why you people pretend Platinum was just another Crystal.

>>28322191
TL;DR:
>"It's casualized and edgy, so it sucks"

>>28321954
> the only game good at storytelling
That was B/W anon
>Also, BW2 does have pokemon from previous generations. That's a great influence as to why it's above BW1.
Did the opposite for me honestly

>>28321962
>>28321547
Dam. Are B2W2 really this good? They're the only ones I have not played and will be playing them up to the release of SM.

>>28322100
I really doubt it's because of that, considering how he ranked Crystal the same as the other games in Gen 2 and how Gen 1 isn't in God tier even though it's insanely overrated because of how good it was received back then.

I think it's just a bad list and he wants to bash gen 6, >>28321962 is actually a great tier list, though I'd say Yellow should be moved to outdated tier too.

>>28321710
Not necessarily better but still good. There hasn't been a bad Final Fantasy game yet

>>28322226
Are you implying those are not bad things?

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>>28322222
>>28322222
>>28322222
>>28322222
>>28322222
THE QUINTS HAVE SPOKEN

>>28321962
Eh, Crystal should be in outdated tier.
Swap Emerald and Plat while you're at it.

>>28322271
Yes FF13 was complete garbage. The fighting system was terrible and the game was completely linear. I only played the game first like a year ago on my brother's hacked PS3 and I was excited to play it because I never had before and I deleted it like an hour later.

>>28322191
I'm there's also unresponsive controls, glitches galore, load times that last 5 minutes

>>28322262
Agreed. ORAS I'd say are "very good but flawed", and don't have as much love or polish put into them as HGSS or B2W2. They do have their charm though and a lot of great things you can't find in the other games. B2W2 I'd rank slightly below HGSS in second place, mostly because they don't quite hit that nostalgia sweetspot, have an inferior story to BW1, and are probably the least casual-friendly games in the franchise.

>>28322279
Only on 4chan and other basement dweller communities.

hating xy is just a meme

>/vp/ 3 years from now
>sun and moon in shit tier on every list because it's become meme status to hate it
>massive hype for next game(s)
>xy is lost somewhere in the muddle of games in "okay tier"

>/vp/ 6 years
>last gen games in shit tier on every list because it's become meme status to hate it
>massive hype for DPP remakes
>sun and moon are lost somewhere in the muddle of games in "okay tier"

>>28322191
>. They downleveled the Pokemon of every fucking trainer of the region
You what?
They buffed every trainer except for the first four leaders you retard and that was to fix the scaling.
>Most puzzles are gone
Everything in RS is in ORAS.
> Mirage Tower is gone
That wasn't even in RS retard.
>Safari is gone
Literally an improvement, no one liked the safari zone mechanics because they were literally anti player.
>and they figured out a way for Contests to be even worse than they used to be.
>contest
>bad
That aside all they did was fix the tediousness of entering the damn things.

>>28322359
i'd normally agree with you, but in this particular case XY are really that bad. Can't think of any other game that lacks replayability at the same degree that XY does

>>28322191
>difficulty
Who the fuck cares, all Pokemon games are easy, no one is forcing you to use Megas either.

>most puzzles are gone
This is completely false, only the sky pillar bicycle ones and New Mauville.

>Mirage Tower
Literally a place with a couple of fossils, who cares.

>Safari is gone
Fair enough.

>they figured out a way for Contests to be even worse than they used to be.
They are about as stupid as they originally were.

> Also, Zinnia.
>Opinions

Meanwhile ORAS is better than RS in gameplay, Pokemon availability (not only Pokemon that didn't exist back then, but also Pokemon from gen 1 and 2), has tons of QOL improvements and has a better plot, even though it's still a shitty Pokemon plot. That's not even touching music and grapphics since it goes either way depending of what you like.

Saying RS are better than ORAS is simply retarded. Emerald I can understand, since at least it has the Battle Frontier.

>>28322340
You're exaggerating about the glitches and load times.

And the controls are as responsive as the originals, plus the QOL improvements that makes everything faster and less cumbersome.

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>>28321547

Fixed it for you, OP.

>>28322191
>Feel a false sense of accomplishment
isnt that the fucking pointg of playing a game? coming from someone who plays solo G rank from mh3U to mhGen I can tell you that frankly irl nobody gives a shit about what I have hinted down, let alone how fast I had curbstomped gym leaders in pokemon

>>28322222
Holy shit, not even kek liked BW

Disproof:
1. the game speed of Heart Gold / Soul Silver
2. the fact that they kept most of the same Kanto for HGSS as in GSC despite the fact that they were no longer limited by space on the cartridge anymore
3. Unable to get new Pokemon like Honchkrow before the league
4. Making catching the legendary part of the plot for some reason

Disproving BW2:
1. MUH PURRLOIN!!!!!!!!!!

XY and ORAS are both better than DP and HGSS purely based on the fact that you have infinite TMs and fast game speed/text.

>>28322581
Where are B2W2? In any case, I'd only rank XY in "Great" tier from a casual perspective, since normies love them, but they lack things to keep more devoted fans interested.

>>28321547
>B2W2 god tier
>BW and Platinum in great tier

Holy shit, it's an actual Unovabortion.

MODS

>>28322710
>Where are B2W2?
did you look at the image

>>28322752
Oh, I see.

I'd say your list is more or less the definitive "casual player" ranking, other than ORAS being below RS.

>>28322260
They are really good, old regions mons available since the beginning of the game, a better yet challenging level curve, a more entertaining story, the PWT (which is actually really hard and a good challenge even for veterans), and the postgame is pretty decent, I would say the second best (first one being emerald obviously), if you want a quick yet better experience try downloading the hackroms: blaze black 2 and volt white 2, the games are worth the time

I played Gold when it came out and also played Sapphire when it came out then played Fire Red then played Yellow then I stopped playing Pokemon for a long time until just earlier this year where I played Platinum and it was very fun and challenging. Then I played X/Y and ORAS and they were so ridiculously easy it wasn't fun and I had to force myself to finish X and never finished ORAS. So I can say without nostalgia goggles that Platinum is way better than X/Y and ORAS and probably all other Pokemon games are better as well.

>>28322796
I think you may just be retarded if you found Plat of all things hard.

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>>28322714
>Stop liking what I hate

>>28321547
Games that works together giving a sense of an unique world
>Shit tier
XY and ORAS are a new phase of the company, old games just try to be complete forgetting about the world as one, no world lore. Their story and details will be important for a COMPLETE understanding about Pokemon WORLD and for future games, to dig in the story as a complete world and not just separate regions with no link between them.
how /vp/ can't see this? too much underage?

Those tiers are are so fucking goofy to me...

>>28322581
>RS better than ORAS
Let's see:
-No physical/Special split
-Limited use TMs
-No Megas
-Less Pokemon
-Less items
-Less abilities and moves
-Less Moves
-A lot slower
-No DexNav
-Less Content
-Worse Wally fights
-Doesn't have the QOL improvements (better menus, better boxes, being able to skip backtracking, no Soar to replace Fly, etc).

+Safari
+Higher Leveled enemies, but still curbstomped
+Sky Pillar is more fun
Man, RS sure is better.

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>>28321962
bASICALLY WHAT i WAS GOING TO PUT :

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>>28321547

>no quartz on the list
shit list. shit taste. i made the real definitive one

>>28321962
>Outdated tier
Kek

>>28322673
kill yourself underage redditard

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>>28322898
>Implying Quartz isn't God tier

>>28322710
Honestly I have always thought that every pokemon game is casual, its a solo game afterall, also battlespot has always been available in all wifi era games, if anything IV breeding and EV training has become easier, a feature that as an OUhead I welcome

>>28322222
THE QUINTS SPEAKETH

>>28321547
GS werent that good
emerald is god tier

>>28322359
Stop forcing the Zelda Cycle unto pokemon, DP are still hated

>>28322898
>Quartz
Oh that brings back memories

>>28321547
>Gen V
>above anything that isn't Gen VI

Shouldn't you be in bed?

>>28322826
It is more challenging than most others in the series

>>28322222
even god agrees yet they keep insisting

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>>28322992
>He doesn't like DP

>>28321547
>FireRed okay tier
>he thinks platinum's shitty plot and slow battles are great tier
>OR/AS not bad tier
>BW2 is god tier
of fucking course

>>28321547
You forgot to put the Mystery Dungeon series above everything else

>someone gets quints or any get on something they hate
>"Fucking killyourself you underaged fagggot, this isn't Redshit"
>someone gets quints or any get on something they like
>"WOOAHH nice get man! Fuck all you haters"

/4chan

>>28323098
That game is shit.

>>28322870
Are you retarded?

Johto and Sinnoh have no world lore?

Johto has lore related to Sinnoh, Hoenn, Kanto and the beginning of the entire pokemon universe

People like Looker and Cynthia (two characters that went to star in a total of 5 other games after Platinum) started in Sinnoh

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>>28323098
>Mystery Dungeon series
>above everything else

>>28323129
Still has the best story out of all official Pokemon games.

this is a serious question

how do people put crystal in the same tier as gold/silver? it introduced so much soul into the game

ITT: Muh nostalgia

>>28323158
>story mattering in video games

>gen 6 is where it belongs

nah, you're good

>>28323158
>story > playability

>>28321962

This is great, although I would move yellow down to the outdated tier.

>>28323159
What did it introduce exactly? I haven't played both in a long while all I remember is that in Crystal, there's I think an extra building you can go to that has Suicune in it and also Suicune is easier to catch in that game. What exactly did the game add. Aside from the female option.

>>28323183
That explains why the likes of Reborn are the better fangames

>>28323219
BATTLE ANIMATIONS FUCKER

I think the colors were better too but I forget

>>28323135
yes

>>28323219
>>28323250
-You can play as a female trainer.
-The Battle Tower has been added near Olivine City.
-Suicune appears in multiple places throughout the game, and doesn't run from battle.
-Crystal cannot be played on the original Game Boy.
-The Move Tutor makes his first appearance.
-You can get more than one of each Elemental Stone.

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>>28323153
>Mystery Dungeon series
>above ANYTHING else

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>>28323219
>the female option.
precisely anon, that started the whole waifu meme

how do I prove opinions wrong help

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>>28321547
Fixed your mistake for you OP.

>>28323327
Just call everyone else faggots and say their opinion is wrong

>>28323327
You don't, because each person has a different opinion. Due to that variability, the opinions' right and wrong will be inherent to different people.

Example: I like edgy fangames and find them extremely fun. I am well aware of how shitty and forced the writing is but that doesn't make me dislike it. Due to such conflicting emotions, they became a guilty pleasure of mine. Some people will agree with me while some will call me a faggot.

Josh will understand we have different opinions and accept my point of view. Be like Josh and we all will be happy in the end

>>28323410
faggot

>>28321547
I agree 100%
personally I think emerald is God tier

>>28323448
Emerald is the shittiest protagonist in the manga, bitch. Like, hell, even Black is a better protagonist than Emerald

God tier: RGBY, BW, BW2, DPPt, FRLG, RSE, ORAS, HGSS, GSC, XY

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>>28322260
I'm really starting to appreciate B2W2 much more on my second playthrough. I'd recommend them to anyone who have at least played BW.

>larger regional dex including mons from other regions
>more fluid menu usage (free-space bag, "use another repel?", first one to move items between party pokemon without unequipping them)
>habitat list shows what pokes are in each area (basically a prototype of the DexNav)
>PWT lets you battle every gym leader and champion from Gen I-V with a level cap for fair fights in single, double, and triple/rotation battle format
>different beginning and end progression through the region, including new or revamped areas
>new gym leaders and altered teams for previous ones from B/W
>each gym has its own remix of the main gym theme
>animated sprites for trainers
>rival is far less annoying than Cheren/Bianca
>more characterization through memory link if you pair up your save file from B/W via DS download play
>new champion
>new branch of Team Plasma and more characterization for old members

I used to think B2/W2 was a shameless cashgrab due to the "2", but I definitely judged it by its cover and was dead wrong. There's a ton of love put into these direct sequels, so much so I wouldn't mind if previous games got this kind of treatment with sequels as well.

I absolutely recommend B2/W2 as they have shot up to my second favorite games just behind HG/SS.

>>28323592
>HGSS
>BW2
sequels seems to be Gamefreak's specialty

>SM
Hmmmmmmmm

>>28323618
We only needed to have a face-off against Helbert/Hilda at the end of the game and it would have been perfect

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>>28323592
This so much. The only friends that like Pokemon I have say I have shit taste for a Gen V game being my favorite. (But one is a Gen 1 fag who constantly says that she'll drop Pokemon GO if they ever add new gens of pokemon, and the other proudly loves to talk about how he's never play any besides Ruby because it's the only good one)

>>28322938
>solo
>casual
I actually associate multiplayer as casual because of the sudden popularity of party games from the wii. Casuals seem to only like games if it's social now.

>>28323650
Yeah. Even make it at the Nature Preserve as a reward for searching it

>>28321547
This is fair
I could pull apart the Great tier a bit but it's unnecessary.
Good ranking OP

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I actually had more fun with Yellow on the virtual console than anything on gen 6.

Outdated my ass

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>>28321547
Yours is pretty close but I swapped around the bad and shit tier entries and here's why:

X and Y and ORAS are pretty bad, but I wouldn't throw them into shit tier, like DP. DP has one major disadvantage, being its third version is so superior, DP has no reason to exist with all its flaws that Platinum mostly fixed. Just for reference, Emerald is still better than R/S but the latter are still a decent enough choice as they handle about as well as Emerald to my knowledge. I could still enjoy R/S since I didn't care much for the battle frontier, but objectively, Emerald benefits more in the long run by having the BF than R/S do from not having it. Easy enough to understand.

I didn't enjoy X and Y much at all, but it did do a few things right. Trainer customization, Pokemon Amie, the masuda method for shinies, and improvements to breeding were all welcome changes in my book, despite not fully using them. They're actually pretty fortunate there is no "Z" third game on this ranking as some proper changes could have rendered them as pointless as DP is to Platinum. Gen VI was overall disappointing despite a few good changes, and that carries over to ORAS.

Unfortunately with ORAS, it fell short of the bar set by HG/SS in terms of remake quality. However, having the phys/special split, the DexNav, masuda method for shines, and breeding improvements of Gen VI does keep it a bit closer with it's better predecessor, Emerald than say DP's range between it and Platinum.

That's my reasoning. While X and Y and ORAS were disappointing, I wouldn't put that lower than pointless like DP became after Platinum.

>tl;dr
X/Y and ORAS = Disappointing
DP = Pointless

Being disappointing isn't as bad as being pointless.

>>28325136
Yeah, people let their disappointment for Gen 6 make them rate it lower than necessary

>>28321962
If you are going to have an outdated tier then it should have all the games with no special / physical split really.

>>28325707
Not really. Hell, I think even as far back as Crystal is pretty playable

Plus Emerald wouldnt get to be higher than ORAS that way

>>28321547
I liked all these games.

As much as I hated Gen 6, I can't honestly say that they were as bad as Diamond and Pearl, let alone worse.

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>>28321962
For once, someone on /vp/ with decent and objective taste

>>28323745
I feel you man. I've got two good friends, one is a genwunner who has never played past RBY, and his inherent hatred for any kind of JRPG won't allow him to play others, but somehow Red is still an amazing game. The other has never played past Crystal, but at least he doesn't call the other games shit, just the Pokemon themselves (ice cream and trashbag, what a surprise). He's at least PO'd Moon, though, his first game in a loooong time. Hoping he doesn't hate it. His wife also plays every game, but I don't think she's finished any in a long time.

>>28325136
>RS above ORAS
Completely wrong, unless you're another idiot that thinks that being marginally harder makes up for the incredibly inferior everything else in RS.

>>28321962
correct as fuck friend

>>28321962
Impeccable taste

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I have a couple of base opinions to start this from. Firstly, no Pokemon game is actually a bad game. They're all at least fun enough, just some more than others. Secondly, I primarily care about the journey to the E4. Post-game content is important, but first and foremost games are judged on how much fun I had discovering new areas and catching new Pokemon, not on how much the Battle Fronter/Resort/Whatever had for me to do. And thirdly, and probably doesn't need to be said, but just plain ease of use of the games. More QoL shit, small things like trainer customization, how long the game takes to actually do shit, how easy boxes are to use, things like that, but it's mostly gotten better with each gen so it's not weighted too heavily.

>>28321547
dumb nostalgia faggot
also fangames like black white and black 2 white 2 don't even count, stop advertising your shitty hacks

>>28321547
These are your opinions and nothing else, outside of the fact you're sucking the assholes of your average /vp/ anon which is like 100 people.

>>28321547
Emerald, Platinum and Crystal should be in God Tier instead of HGSS, the rest seems fine.

If you defend XY or ORAS

You are a nintenyearold, simple as that.

You probably buy amiibo and think Wii-U is a good console too.

You don't care about quality.

Your opinion does not matter.

>>28321962
Are (You) me?
Black/White have to drop by 1 or 2 tiers tho.

>>28321962
As long as everyone knows that DP and Yellow are not as cracked up as they usually are I can agree with this list. Though I do believe that FRLG should be up one tier.

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The only bad Pokemon games are 6th gen.

Everything else god tier and just okay.

>>28321547
I don't think any pokemon game is bad, move everything below bad into good tier and change ok into good tier. I like all of the games

You're spot on, though I would swap XY and DP. Diamond and Pearl are practically unplayable, while XY are at least playable. Bad, but playable.

Never played ORAS, what are the common complaints against them?

>>28322677
>the fact that they kept most of the same Kanto for HGSS as in GSC despite the fact that they were no longer limited by space on the cartridge anymore

Most dungeons that were not in GSC are back (Viridian Forest, Seafom Islands, Cerulean Cave, and the Safari is now in Johto)

>Making catching the legendary part of the plot for some reason

I think it's mostly because Ho-oh could be caught in Gold before you could caught Lugia in Silver (since you need the last badge to use Whirlpool)

>>28321962
>implying outdated games are bad
0/10

I will swap DP and XY, Ruby Sapphire with ORAS, and it's perfect.

>>28326578
>Someone who doesn't have HG/SS on top
My kindred spirit, I admit that the games have the best aesthetic, the best minigames and some of the best sprites, but they're so mediocre on everything else and are such a small improvement over the originals, it's hard to play through more than once. I'd still rank them above ORAS though.

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>>28321547
I don't even know what I was going for with this.

>>28321547
none of the games are bad or unfun though

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>>28321547
>Black and White not in shit tier
>Diamond and Pearl in bad tier

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>>28321547
Can't prove a personal point of view wrong, Dickless.

>>28329875
This

>>28329875
How would RS be better than Emerald?

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>>28329875
>RBY at top
>RS near top, Emerald near bottom
(You)

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>>28321623
You're a contrarian fuckwit to think that XY/ORAS are in anyway better than B2W2/HGSS.

Lacking content does not make them better.

>>28321962
I'd put BW in okay tier but beyond that anon holy shit

>>28323057
Platinum is the superior version, liking DP when Pt exists is redundant

Why is BW2 likes SO much? I feel like it has the worst storytelling in the whole series, and even if the region and playability were an improvement from the original BW I dont get why so much people rank them at the top.

Also, I fucking loved XY. I see people dislike them, but other than postgame being shit I dont see why its so bad.

>>28321547
>pokemon yellow at ok tier instead of god tier

who hit you as a baby?

>ITT: people that like platinum's shitty slow battles

>>28330268
The move to 3D and the addition of Fairy were good moves but they don't have the content to back up these improvements. They aren't awful, just short-lived.

>>28330256
>Play DP
>It's fun
>Play Pt when it comes out
>It's even more fun
Pt didn't make DP shit. It had a great base and went even further.

>>28330365
DP are somewhat bland in my opinion but that's fair

>>28330268
See >>28323592

I didn't like X and Y for numerous reasons
>Annoying friendship "rivals" that could barely compete with me, even near the end
>Lucario and Charizard pandering
>Horrible pacing (the gap between badge 1 and 2, then the rapid fire between badges 4-7)
>Team Flare is incredibly shallow with awful dialogue, generic motives, and horrendous designs
>Lowest number of new gen pokemon, with only 71
>Fairy typing was a real stretch of the imagination and GF retyped a bunch of previous cute Pokemon into it just because they could
>Customized Male hairstyles were completely shafted in favor of females

>>28330365
this.

>>28321700
>nothing is as shit as gen 6th gen
You're right, they're worse.

>>28326578
I think this entire post was just explaining why HGSS is lower than expected

>>28327558
Go back to /v/eddit faggot

>>28329645
Made up tiers for tear lists are lame when it all becomes pointless