Can all the /vp/ posters who somehow do not believe Mallow is

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shitty, low effort bait from someone who is likely actually underage
this is what I expect from Roothoot 2.0

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I have one going already. I'll post it when the starters are officially announced

It's fake, anon.

They really wouldn't give us another "figher" pokemon.

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>>28285350
that's funny, I have one too :^)

>>28285376
literacy is your friend

>>28285368
>figher

KEK

>>28285368
It doesn't seem fake to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IA-LMexUY8

>They really wouldn't give us another "figher" pokemon.

This seems familiar

>>28285429
>Cresselia~ sounds cute

my headcanon is confirmed!

>>28285429
I can't stand her accent

>>28285483
>>28285520
Her voice surprised me too but I think it's cute

If I believe it's fake, I won't be hurt if they are. And if they're real, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Likewise I am expecting SM to be shit.

What about those who think Mallow is real but the starters are not?

>>28285251
I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding denialfag arguments. I have never even once seen someone say that mallow isn't real.

>>28285718
I think that level of doublethink would take training to develop. The kind of hard work that people here would be averse to.

>>28285718
What about people who think that Mallow is fake, but Luchakitten is real, but Robinhoot is 100% fake, and Poppmaid is a scrapped design that was real but isn't anymore?

>>28285757
That depends on how you define "real"

>>28285718
not possible. If mallow is official and it's on the same images the starters are on the starters are also official. You can argue that they're concept and the final designs won't be the same (even that I doubt) but there's no denying the images are official material.

>people actually think that GF, the company who arrested the guy who leaked the Unova starter evos and made stores that broke street date for XY would let such a major leak happen 5 months before release
You're all fucking morons.

>>28285800
>and made stores that broke street date for XY
made them what?

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>>28285800

(You)

>>28285800
Shit happens moron

It's real

>>28285814
Forgot to add made them pay a hefty fine

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>>28285800
>Muh 5 months early

Every thread

>>28285834
Hope the fine was more than the profits they will get from every single person in the area preordering the next game from them exclusively

>>28285800
>arrested the guy who leaked the Unova starter evos

Never got an actual source on that.

Also the fact that those happened in the first place means this is possible too.

I don't like them so I don't want them to be real. Until they are officially announce, why can't I keep living in denial?

>>28285881
You can but hopefully you aren't one of the rude spammers that show up in nice threads about them completely unrelated to leakfags/denialfags.

>>28285757
What two mutually exclusive concepts is one required to believe in order for Mallow to be real, but the starter leak to be a fake?

>>28285792
How is Mallow being official preclude the above art from being fake?

>>28285926
>How is Mallow being official preclude the above art from being fake?

Mallow is in the artwork.

>>28285926
Mallow was in the artwork long before the first showing of her in a trailer.

>>28285939
Yes, and? Does that mean if I draw mallow in a picture that becomes official game freak art work?

>>28285964
Yes, and?

>>28285834
Actually they sent lawyers to all the people who got early copies from the store asking to please return them or else they would fine the store

Many of them said "naw fuck that" so the store probably got fined

>>28285926
Probably because Mallow was in the art long before she was officially revealed

>>28285978
The art was posted BEFORE Mallow was revealed you retard.

>>28285993
>The art was posted BEFORE Mallow was revealed you retard.
Yes, and?

>>28285978

Are you baiting? Nobody could seriously be this stupid.

>>28285998
Start the doublethink dojo, others must benefit from your training

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>>28285998

Assuming the starters are fake, how do you figure the artist knew of Mallow's existence months before her reveal?

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>>28285998
"Obviously someone saw Mallow and made a fake leak about it by putting her in a tiny sketch on one page"

Saved you the trouble of writing more BS

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>>28285982
Who the fuck do Game Freak think they are, holy shit.

>>28286061
TPCi actually, Game Freak does not have the legal power to do such things in the west

Even then there are laws that basically say a company can fine stores for broken street dates, something like 50K per copy sold

>>28286015
What two mutually exclusive concepts am I believing in?

>>28286033
Explain to me how literally no one knew about Mallow before she was revealed to the public.

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>>28286007
>It's stupid to know the difference between improbable and impossible.

>>28285881

Not accepting reality is childish.

>>28286102
>Explain to me how literally no one knew about Mallow before she was revealed to the public.
... because she wasn't revealed to the public??? Your response doesn't make sense. The leaked artwork of the starters contains Mallow. They were leaked in June. Mallow was revealed in August. Therefore, because Mallow is in them and is official, the designs of the starters are as well. How is it so hard for you to grasp this? Unless you're baiting.

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>>28285251

>suggesting these are real

Those are deviantart-tier designs. You would have to be literally fucking braindead to believe that they are real. You are going to get as blown the fuck out as you got when roothoot was proven false.

Include this in the screencap: You are a retarded cunt if at any point in time you believed in these shitty """"leaks"""". Consider suicide to remove your genes from the gene pool.

>>28286102
No one knew about the trial captains until Mallow was revealed. People didn't even pay attention to the girl because they were angry about Litten evolving into another Fire/Fighting type

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>>28286256
Hopefully you are that guy that said he'd quit the series if these are real because /vp/ needs less crazies.

>>28286256
Your salt is DELICIOUS.

>>28286306
I'll do more than quit the series if these are real

I'll take a bunch of people with me so they don't have to witness this piece of shit becoming canon

>real until proven fake
I'll believe it when they're revealed

>>28286329
Goodbye!

>>28286208
So, it's possible for the starters to leak, but not for Mallow to leak?
>>28286274
>No one knew about the trial captains until Mallow was revealed
So Game Freak is staffed by robots?

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>>28285251
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>>28286334
>fake until proven real even though there's a massive shitload of evidence that it's real and I'm in denial because I don't like the designs

>>28286256
>>28286329
This is good but so over the top that I think it may be a performance from someone who wants to be capped for attention.

>>28286334
No, they were fake until they got proven real. Believing in them or any particular fake wasn't pragmatic, then Mallow appeared in a trailer.

>>28286373
le epic maymay bro XDDD

so meme
much lol
wow

>>28286384
It's only over the top because I'm willing to entertain the underage kids on /vp/ who've never witnessed proper leaks and are latching on to the first thing they can in this drought leak season we're experiencing.

These. Are. Not. Real.
Get that through your thick skulls.

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>2 leaks that have no incorrect info so far and become more legit everytime new info gets released said these 3 are real

>The people that don't want them to be true completely ignore it and continue on their Mallow denial

/vp/ is going to be a mess when these are proven real

>>28286423
>These. Are. Not. Real.
>Get that through your thick skulls.
Care to provide some evidence to back up your assertions?

>>28286362
>So, it's possible for the starters to leak, but not for Mallow to leak?
Please leave. Adults are talking.

>>28286334
Nice meme but it's more like

>Fake until given evidence that we can use to form educated opinions

>>28286454
My evidence are the fucking awful deviantart designs

le dark mysterious ninja bird
le transvestite sealion boy
le wwe bipedal cat

I can understand why you have trouble understanding my evidence though, it requires you to have a pair of eyes and a functioning brain to process what they're seeing

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>>28286423
>"If I say it enough it'll come true!!!!"

>>28286497
>My evidence are that I don't like don't like them

Typical /vp/ shitpost

>>28286497
Yeah I don't think you're going to make the cut, sorry.

>>28286497
Literally not evidence, though.

>>28286497

we have a "dark and mysterious" ninja frog
a fucking fox that turns into a god damn feminine as fuck fox girl
and a fucking otter that turns into a samurai GIANT otter that goes semi-bipedal

Your point?

>>28286497
>le dark mysterious ninja frog
>le transvestite fox boy
>le wwe heavyweight pig

>>28286544
it's better than your evidence, which is literally just "a girl that looks like the one in the drawing (if you squint really hard and wish a lot) appeared in the trailer"

look at them, those aren't fucking pokemon. look at that awful bird

>>28286469
>I-if I can't answer his questions I can just insult him until he goes away.
That's not going to work skippy. Explain to me why it is impossible for mallow to leak while accounting for the fact that there is a leak.

>>28286497
That's not evidence.

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>>28286611

They won't go away just because you don't like them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IA-LMexUY8

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>>28286611

Yeah, this isn't a pokemon either. Look at it, it's so ugly it's digimon levels of trash.

>>28286611
>(if you squint really hard and wish a lot)
Your desperation is palpable.

But I am bored and your inane arguments will supply me with some minor entertainment.

Starters are obviously fake, Mallow is real. Leaker wanted spicy drama and drew the final evos there.

>>28286611
>a girl looks like a revelaed character is a shittier excuse than "i don't like them,they're fake "

Why even live?

>>28286208
not him, he's clearly retarded or baiting, but isn't it even 1% possible that either:

a) someone at GF (perhaps her artist) leaked Mallow to a friend of theirs (proud of their work that got approved?) and that friend made some fake leaks with her?

b) GF made fake leaks themselves to throw people off?

c) these are rejected concepts?

I'm not saying any of these are likely, none is probably true, but until we hear from someone official, we can't be 100% sure either way

>>28286653
Sorry anon, haven't you read the thread, that is literally impossible, because reasons.

>>28286641
>Explain to me why it is impossible for mallow to leak while accounting for the fact that there is a leak
That's not what I said, though. The Starter Evolutions, which contained Mallow, leaked in June. Therefore, Mallow leaked in June. Then Mallow was officially revealed, yes? Okay, so that further confirms the Starter Leaks. That was the point I tried to make.

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>>28286653
Ah yes. That's the much more likely possibility.

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>>28286646
compare the concept art

does it look anything like the abortions in the OP?

I'm done arguing with you people, I'll be the one laughing when your wwe cat, tranny sealion and edgy ninja bird get debunked anyway. Peace out and enjoy the last few hours of your dellusion, children

>>28286611
I feel like the effeminate, retarded looking clown seal is a much bigger problem than the bird.
For the record, i really don't want these to be real, but after the girl in the picture was confirmed, there is really not much else to expect.

>>28286709
>muh patterns

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>>28286709
nice try

also stop ignoring posts that don't fit with your argument troll

>>28286693
>Okay, so that further confirms the Starter Leaks.
Firstly, that was what first confirmed them. Up until that point the Chinese leaks were as uncredible as any other leak.
Secondly, That doesn't explain how it's impossible for someone to have known Mallow and made that image. While being possible for them to take a piece of official art work with Mallow on it.

>>28286709

>game concept

KEK

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>>28286709
Can't for you to leave the series doll

>>28286362
Yup Gamefreak is run by a bunch of robots that leaked the starters final evos early to ruse up the community to build hype for the 20th anniversary

>>28286667
>not him, he's clearly retarded or baiting, but isn't it even 1% possible that either:
>a) someone at GF (perhaps her artist) leaked Mallow to a friend of theirs (proud of their work that got approved?) and that friend made some fake leaks with her?
>b) GF made fake leaks themselves to throw people off?
Yes. But I think the more rational conclusion is that it's a normal leak.

I see no reason to expect that they've pulled the wool over our eyes, especially sense they have no precedence for doing so.
>c) these are rejected concepts?

Certainly more feasible than the other two at least.

>>28286497
>le dark mysterious ninja bird
That's not even what it is, it;s fucking robin hood. Just replace bird with frog and you've got greninja.

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i believe the leaks are real

the Chinese leaks, which have proven to be the most accurate and consistent of all leaks, support the idea that we'll get an archer, wrestler, and siren

sugimori has been tweeting tiger mask and wrestling pics. hints towards luchalitten

popplio learns disarming voice, a rare fairy move that only cute/fairy mons learn through level up, plus it fits the siren theme

mallow is found in luchalitten's art sheet, along with ash, suggesting that we're looking at anime sheets, which means these designs have been finalized

the circus theme was only ever fanmade headcanon, not official

ballio and friends have been disproven (they don't even look like Pokemon anyway)

I think it's safe to say these pokes are real and it's time for us to accept that

>>28286748
But you're ignoring the fact that the Chinese Leaks, which have been proven real thus far, what with:
>No traditional Gyms
>Alolan forms
>Sea Cucumber Pokemon aka Pyukumuku
>Mushroom Pokemon aka Morellul
have actually stated that the Starters evolve into an Archer, Wrestler, and Siren.

>that doesn't explain how it's impossible for someone to have known Mallow and made that image
This is literally grasping at straws, though, and you know it. Again, I'm going to point to the Chinese Leaks as an explanation for this. I won't deny that it's possible the designs may be tweaked slightly in the final run, but for the most part, those designs are likely final.

>>28286812
>But you're ignoring the fact that the Chinese Leaks, which have been proven real thus far, what with:
What did they have pre-Mallow you moron?
Salandit? The translations were posted after him. Prior to Mallow they had nothing.

>This is literally grasping at straws, though, and you know it.
No, it is presenting alternatives, which means the anons I initially responded to are wrong.

>>28286642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IA-LMexUY8

Every thread until people get it

>>28286874
>Prior to Mallow they had nothing.
https://twitter.com/JynxClub/status/761640291237367809

>>28286874
>What did they have pre-Mallow you moron?
What the hell does that have to do with anything? I never said that the Chinese Leaks were real all along, but with the reveal of Mallow, and everything else I said before, the Chinese Leaks have proven to be accurate enough, which specifically mention that the Starter Leaks are legit, too, which was also confirmed further with Mallow's reveal.

>>28286748
>Secondly, That doesn't explain how it's impossible for someone to have known Mallow and made that image. While being possible for them to take a piece of official art work with Mallow on it.

The Riddler leak however does account for that.

He's been 100% right too and he posted them as confirmed Pokemon in his dex breakdown.

The Chinese leak does also mention that they're a wrestler, siren, and archer and that fits the art too.

Why are people so against these designs? They're all pretty good. Even the waifubait.

>>28286939
>Why are people so against these designs?

Because they want "it just gets bigger"

>>28287002

My only complaint is that I wish Owlrow had pointer feathers. I like hard edges in my designs and those feathers are really soft.

>>28286939
I believe the leak but i don't like the final evos with the exception of Owl3. "SeaLion3" is literally a girly mermaid. Tiger3 is cartoonish as fuck, it's like that "it gets bigger" meme but in a saturday morning cartoon way, it's also the most unoriginal of the 3 in terms of design, but i do have to accept the fire belt is awesome.

>>28286912
>What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Anon said Mallow "further confirms", but Mallow was revealed at the same time as the Chinese leaks gained credibility. Therefore Mallow was the initial confirmation, not further confirmation.

>>28286939
None of those make it impossible though, as neither of those are confirmed to be 100% accurate.

>Why are people so against these designs?
I'm not, I'm just saying stop being such fucking uncritical morons and stop acting like there's no possible way they could be fake.

>>28287070
>None of those make it impossible though, as neither of those are confirmed to be 100% accurate.

When you hit things out of the ball park enough times you sure as fuck become 100% accurate.

Rugby Monkey, Marshadow's typing, and the Starters are pretty much all the Chinese leak has left to confirm.

It's not like we're talking about the real leaks or the split-evo leaks here.

The Riddler has also never been wrong. Though I will admit I'd give him a tiny little less benefit if only because he seems to enjoy fucking with people a bit more. He's still been 100% right so far.

people call shitmon like Lilligant waifu material but shit on Poppmaid it's laughable

>>28287070
>Mallow was the initial confirmation, not further confirmation
It's still a confirmation regardless, though. It's unlikely that they could be fake because of everything else that the leak mentions having been true so far.

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>>28287204
>bashing on Lilligant

>>28287204
I am a fan of cute designs but Liligant really is the most boring shit ever and even I can't get into it. /vp/ honestly has weird taste and I only noticed it when people were raving over how genius Goomy was during XY era.

>>28287183
>When you hit things out of the ball park enough times you sure as fuck become 100% accurate
No, you don't. There's no way to know for sure that everything there is right until it is all confirmed.

Let me put it this way, If I was to say to you "The sky is blue, Pokemon is a multi media franchise and Hideo Kojima will appear in Sun and Moon" does the first two being correct have any bearing on whether or not the third statement is correct?

>>28287223
>It's still a confirmation regardless, though.
That's great, but that's not what we're talking about.

>It's unlikely that they could be fake
That's great, but that's not what I've been arguing.

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>>28287283
>Liligant really is the most boring shit ever

>>28287283
I am honestly all about the cute girlish designs and Lilligant has never interested me she's pretty shitty designed. The poor man's Bellosom, sorry Lilligays

>>28287414
I prefer Bellosom too, she's in my top 10 designs.

>>28286709
well, yes it does actually...

are you looking at the same concept art???

>>28287517
Um? Are you blind?
The real concept art features a blue frog and the fake one has a red tiger?
They couldn't BE more different???

>>28287306

The first two things are entirely unrelated to the third you massive retard.

When you say "There's no gyms, there are Totem Pokemon battles, and you can catch a Rugby monster" and the first two are revealed then that third one becomes likely. When you do it as many times as the Chinese leaks have then you pretty much don't have a chance at failure.

>>28287572
>the first two are revealed then that third one becomes likely
But not confirmed.

> When you do it as many times as the Chinese leaks have then you pretty much don't have a chance at failure.
But that's wrong. No matter how many times something has been right, it is always possible that the next piece of information will prove something it said wrong. Never abandon your scepticism, anon.

>>28287650

But the three in your situation have nothing to actually do with one another, nor do they stack and correlate.

The sky being blue and Pokemon being a multimedia franchise don't add to Kojima appearing in SM.

The Chinese Leak however only needing three more things to be a full sweep of confirmation does correlate with it being pretty much 100% right.

>>28287789
Each of the claims made by the leak are separate claims and should be evaluated as such. Sure, for each thing that is right it should lend more credibility to the source, but there is no such thing as a source whose credibility is so good that anything it says should be assumed to be correct.

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