Does anyone else feel like Pokémon designs have only gotten

>>28271672
>good designs
>pic not related

So why didn't you post an example?

>>28271708
Nice meme

>>28271708
Please post a better butterfly/moth pokemon

File: Bewear.png (378KB, 1280x1280px) Image search: [Google]

378KB, 1280x1280px

>designs have gotten better

Pocket MONSTERS

>>28271726
All gens have some stinkers, the average quality has only gone up significantly.

File: Shirodesuna.jpg (357KB, 2830x2063px) Image search: [Google]

357KB, 2830x2063px

>>28271740
Looks like gen 7 is going to have a lot of stinkers, then!

File: 5e7.png (140KB, 920x868px) Image search: [Google]

140KB, 920x868px

>>28271726

>Pocket MONSTERS

>>28271750
I get people hating Bewear but I genuinely think sandcastlemon is not bad. Besides nothing but I'll ever top Jynx for worst design ever. Not even the Gothi line is that bad.

>>28271708
>being this much of a contrarian.

>>28271750
Thst thing is still miles more acceptable then Garbodor.

>>28271750
Better than shit like Muk.

File: 600px-596Galvantula.png (218KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

218KB, 600x600px

>>28271754
>Digital MONSTERS

>>28271850
Gen 5 was gold for bugs.

This nigga, Scolipede, and a fucking MYTHICAL bug with a top tier ability.

>>28271816
......how?

>>28271726
>>28271750
>"every pokemon has to be an ebic dragon or fur/waifubait or it's shit"

>>28273563
That's not what he/she said at all?

People get way too defensive when people dislike a Mon that they start doing stupid shit like this. Even if you like these, if you can't see why one wouldn't you're a retard

>>28271672
I feel like they've stagnated after gen IV
I also feel like VII is going to be another try hard gen with muh 150 new mons

>>28273614
With alola forms filling things out? Not a chance

File: image.jpg (108KB, 749x727px) Image search: [Google]

108KB, 749x727px

>>28271750
>this will somehow be sexualized
I'm not ready

>>28273623
I can only hope, anon. At least the protags are actually good this time around, I don't want another shit odd numbered gen.

>>28271672
Yes. Gen 5 and 6 have the best designs in the franchise. Volcarona, Eelektross, Dragalge, Talonflame, Zygarde, etc. 7 might be the overall best for me too.

>>28271775
Wow, every single one of those opinions were wrong. It's quite impressive actually.

>>28271672
I don't think any gen has a noticeably larger number of bad or good designs.

>>28273654
>like Zygarde
50% form only maybe

>>28273655
jynx defense force

>>28273669
This just in, 70% of gen V doesn't exist, at least according to this chimp

>>28273693
No its all there

File: 6a46a65ac6186a9ef0fe217e8ad672ac86c3e120.png (782KB, 1000x987px) Image search: [Google]

782KB, 1000x987px

>>28271672
I've been playing since blue/red and I've been active since every new games released

Pokemon designs really haven't gotten better or worse

They've all been about equal and each gen has there own designs which people subjectively love or hate. Comparing designs between games is fucking autistic and generally involves people cherrypicking designs they like against other gens designs they don't like.

Fuck off

>>28273803
>This

I've pretty much played every traditionnal pokémon games and I've never gotten to the point where I had to make a team out of mons I don't like.

>>28271672
Pretty much, the only gen 1 designs I could place among my favorites are Raichu and Dragonair. There are also some decent ones like Scyther, Vulpix-Ninetales, Sandshrew Slowbro, Starmie and probably something I'm forgetting but vast majority of the gen is way more boring and stupid than any other gen overall.

>>28273803
>>28273817
This, it just seems like OP wants to "stick it yo Genwunners" or something

Reminder that blind love if everything new is just as phony as blind hate

>>28274012
Are you me?

File: 20160905T065441.jpg (2MB, 1836x1836px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1836x1836px

>>28273626
Are you ready now?

>>28271708
dude, that design is very cool. love it.

>Does anyone else feel like Pokémon designs have only gotten better?

I don't know the newest ones but I'm 28 and the design you posted it is neat.

File: Untitled.png (2MB, 1362x1490px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1362x1490px

>>28271708
>>28271726
>>28271750
>>28271754
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have

>>28274404
holy shit. I get physically ill just by looking at these

>plastic bag pkmn
>le hairy rat tail balloon (dude wtf)

I feel the same way. I've been playing since Pokemon Blue and think that Pokemon designs have gotten better over time.

Gen 5 actually contains the highest number of Pokemon I've ever liked from a single gen.

>>28274404
Jesus fucking Christ I see you on every fucking thread about designs. I do not, nor will I ever, touch a Yokai Watch game. I don't give a flying rats ass what they look like or what I'm to be grateful for. Pokemon are based on stuff and made to look like 'realistic' creatures. Whoever made Yokai a watch took acid in an IKEA and drew some sketches for the final game. Fuck off dude.

>>28274404
Yokai looks great

>>28271672
>I turn 27 in November and have been played since the start
does your mother knows that you lie on the internet?

>>28274404
>tfw most of those look better than most new pokemon designs
Yeah, it's a reminder alright. A reminder of how shit pokemon has got.

>>28273602
Edgelords have to understand that this is a KIDS franchise. Designs like that appeal to KIDS. if you don't like it go play something else.

I'm 24. I've been into Pokemon since the first games came out. I honestly think most of the old Pokemon are boring as hell and didn't age well. Whereas the newer Pokemon usually have some aspect about them that makes them unique from all the other cliche RPG monsters/animals.

>>28271672
>volcarona
Good taste there Anon, godd taste

le bland meme.

>>28271672
I kinda agree EXCEPT for gen 7.
Gen 7 are the blandest and most uncreative designs in the entire franchise.

>>28271750

So sandcastle is going to be the trash/ice cream of Gen 7, the one design people focus on and post to prove the whole gen is bad?

>>28275505
Bait

>>28275523
No. Maybe you think otherwise, but in my personal opinion gen 7 is boring design wise.

>>28275516
why do people hate the sandcastle so much? I actually think its pretty cool and I like how a lot of the new mons are based of the various elements of the pacific islands

>>28275523
Just off yourself already you shitmuncher.

>>28275335

Yokai Watch monsters are based on actual yokai though, if you don't like them blame Japanese culture, not the designers

>>28275536
So far the only one I hate is bewear, but its expected that people may dislike one or two designs from over 100

>>28275538

Because any design that isn't just a generic cartoony animal or an animal with fire/thunderbolts on it is bad and uncreative

>>28274404
The. Fucking. Shoe. Head.

>>28274404
Not again...

Yokai Watch is entirely different. Yeah, it's still a monster capturing game, but the yokai are meant to represent things that cause people to act in certain ways, and are generally meant to look horrid. Comparing Yokai Watch with Pokemon is like comparing donuts to bagels. Both are similar, but have great differences.

Gen 5 had the best designs overall desu. Maybe it's because you forced to use Unova mons but they really grew on me. Starters were trash tho

>>28275429
>Wah stop having an opinion or GTFO

Whiny baby.

>>28275538
>I actually think its pretty cool and I like how a lot of the new mons are based of the various elements of the pacific islands
Is that supposed to be impressive or something? That's the bare fucking minimum I would expect. The design challenge is making them not look like shit, and although you might disagree, many people would say that they have failed in that respect.

>>28275557
But isnt crabrawler like this? and people still hate it, I swear a lot of the grown-up fanbase are just digifags in denial

>>28271672
Sometimes I think I'm the only one who genuinely isn't bothered at all by new Pokemon designs. I can generally get behind most designs and am loving gen 7 so far.

File: image.jpg (2MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 3264x2448px

>>28275538
As someone who likes Garbodor and Vanilluxe, I don't like Palossand because it's not a clever design IMO and it's closer to a paper Mario/M&L enemy when it comes to its design.
I don't hate it because it's a Sandcastle, I hate the design.

Pic related is an exemple of a clever thing they could have gone with but didn't

>>28275575
so am I supposed to dislike it because the majority of the fanbase dislike it?

>>28275598
so is the same palossand but with a clam in its mouth?

>>28275603
I didn't say or imply that. You're the one asking "why do people hate the sandcastle so much?". Should they like it just because you do?

>>28271672
I'd say they've gotten more complex, at the very least. As for quality, that's pretty subjective. I do think a lot of them are better, but there are a lot of crappy ones as well.

>>28275613
I'm not saying this is perfect with just a shell as a mouth, I'm just saying they could have done so many little interesting details and stuff with actual MEANING while designing a sand castle pokemon but decided not to.

Design quality has remained about the same throughout the years.

The art style has gotten worse.

>>28275688
I genuinely want to know how gen 7 pokemons are so "well designed" ?
I don't find them clever in there designs except Minior and some others but pikipek, Grubbin (not its evolutions), Bounsweer Komala and Rockruff...are very very boring to me

>>28275741
As everything art-related, it depends entirely on appreciation, there's no absolute master piece and there's no absolute trash

>>28275785
Yeah I guess you're right. It's just that it's the first time I don't like so many designs in a new Generation. I usually like almost every new pokemons but I guess SM designs don't do it for me.

Jeez, I like most of the new pokemon but you guys are insufferable/

>>28275429
>>28275523
>>28275557
Are you (two?) underaged? Can you not fathom people not liking something and that being okay? "If you dont like absolutely everything about the franchise then you should leave" is retarded logic for retards.

>>28274404
Hi there again

>>28275538
Because it looks stupid. Are you expecting some complicated reason? People just think it looks dumb. This isnt hard.

>>28275830
There's always a first time anon, there's always a first time

Somewhat yes somewhat no

I still can't stomach some gen 4 designs

>>28275852
here's my (you), hope you are happy now

>>28274404
Shut the FUCK up and get the fuck off.

File: 1462984281981.jpg (28KB, 225x225px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 225x225px

>>28275895
You are learning board comebacks! Nice lurking! Not quite though

Pokemon is just starting to use more obscure animals, so you get the retards crawling out of the woodworks who have no idea what a triggerfish or mata mata is screaming "BAD DESIGNS XDD"

>>28275920
>calling someone a newfag unironically
>"do I fit in yet"

>>28271672
>It's Pocket MONSTERS, not Pocket Animals after all

Yet the Gen 1 Pokemon are the ones that often look more like fictional monsters instead of cartoonified animals.

Almost every gen 5/6/7 pokemon you can easily go "that pokemon is based on [animal]" while to this day people still argue what the fuck bulbasaur and nidoking are based on.

>>28275985
>I know you are but what am I response
Well dang, looks like you win this one

>>28275969
They always used obscure animals, GF is just now able to do more complex designs because the games have enough power to depict them well enough.

>>28276003
that's some hardcore cherrypicking anon
literally half the gen 1 pokemon are just "animal" + "random element"
at least recent gens have designs that are more original than just FIRE DOG, FIRE DRAGON, WATER TURTLE, ELECTRIC BIRD

Gen V was just a gem of the series.

>>28276136
ROCK DOG, FIRE LIZARD, WATER FISH, ELECTRIC STAGBEETLE, GRASS FRUIT, WATER SEAL, FIRE CAT, MUD HORSE

>>28276003
>>28276136

both of you just stop.
>>28273803

>>28276243
came in here to post came in here to post this

>>28276003
> maybe because 70% of gen I's moms aren't even based on animals but humans, objects and other stuffs.

File: 1472601690711.jpg (24KB, 321x322px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 321x322px

>>28274059
SAUCE NOW

>>28275598
This. I've been waiting for a sandcastle design for years, and what we got looks dumb.
The main problem in the design is the mouth being located in a "layer" that protrudes the eyes zone.
There was an edit where the mouth was completely removed and the overall appearance was much better. It looked consistent and even more intimidating.

I have to say the tunnel thing is kinda cool though.

>>28275415
Refer to >>28273803.

>>28276136
>le cherrypicking meme

if you attempt to say Bulbasaur's line, Nidoran's line, Magmar, Electabuzz, Machop's line, Kangaskhan, Abra's line, or Clefairy's line look like cartoon versions of animals then you're bullshitting. However I can't say this about ANY gen 7 pokemon so far. It's not cherrypicking. It's just a fact.

>>28276279
>le neutrality fence sitting guy who acts as if everything is equal when they're not

you're the one who needs to stop.

>>28271726
>>28271750
I love these, definitely using them

>>28276462
see the problem with you people is that there's no winning

if it's an original design you cry about it being overdesigned/a digimon

if it's an "animal + element" design you cry about it because, reasons, i guess? it's not gen 1?

>>28276136
>at least recent gens have designs that are more original than just FIRE DOG, FIRE DRAGON, WATER TURTLE, ELECTRIC BIRD

Yeah because

GRASS OWL
FIRE CAT
WATER SEAL
CARTOON WOODPECKER
CARTOON MONGOOSE
BIGGER CARTOON MONGOOSE
CARTOON GRUB
ELECTRIC BEETLE
ROCK DOG
CARTOON KOALA
CARTOON DRAGON
CARTOON TRIGGERFISH
CARTOON BEE FLY
ELECTRIC HEDGEHOG
FIRE SALAMANDER
CARTOON PLUSH
CARTOON MASCOT
CARTOON TRILOBITE
CARTOON HORSE
CARTOON BIRD
GRASS MANTIS
CARTOON SAND CASTLE
FAIRY MUSHROOM
FIGHTING CRAB
STEEL LION
GHOST BAT

are so much better? Your bias is hilarious and the only reason you like it more is because it's newer.

File: 1466193154652.png (25KB, 507x565px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 507x565px

>>28276504
>/vp/ is one person
Again, stop

>>28276462
There is no inherent advantage to a pokemon being closer to a real life animal or not. The design quality does not depend on if it is mimicking a real animal/object in every case. You arent arguing objective things, but defending your own opinions vs someone else's, which is fine, but not something applicable to the entire objective pokemon design quality

File: 1395546753268.png (147KB, 236x338px) Image search: [Google]

147KB, 236x338px

>>28276504
Wow anon! It's almost as if the fanbase is made out of different individuals who like and dislike different things instead of being a collective hivemind! Who knew!

But I guess you just thought you were a special snowflake separate from the hivemind and you're above everyone else just because you're a fence sitter, right?

>>28276543
>There is no inherent advantage to a pokemon being closer to a real life animal or not.

Tell that to OP.
>It's Pocket MONSTERS, not Pocket Animals after all.
>It's Pocket MONSTERS, not Pocket Animals after all.
>It's Pocket MONSTERS, not Pocket Animals after all.

>>28276577
I did. I have called OP's post stupid probably twice in this thread already

>>28271873
All bugs have amazing designs. I cannot find a flawed one. Even the battery is amazing.

>>28276533
The evos of the starters are based on an archer, a siren, and a heel wrestler.
The mongoose is based on a rookie cop. The evo has elements of a detective.
The electric pupa looks and behaves like a battery. The beetle has elements of a railgun or an alligator clip.
The koala has a pillow that looks like a log.
The dragon has a senility theme.
The fire salandamer is based on a bandit.
The bird is based on different dancing styles.
The grass mantis is a clever subversion of the real-life orchid mantis.
The crab is based on a scrappy pugilist, complete with blackeye.
The lion is obviously based on the sun. The bat, the moon.

All right, your turn now. Where's the additional design motif for Gen I Pokemon?

Saying that Pokemon designs have gotten better is completely subjective. For someone who's been playing since Red & Blue came out, I won't deny that I prefer later gens.

You can like or dislike whatever the fuck kind of Pokemon you want, I just find it stupid that people start bashing a whole Gen for trivial and subjective shit like designs.

Won't stop me from playing the game and having fun either way.

File: 1472870059333.jpg (48KB, 538x496px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 538x496px

all pokemon are well designed and lovable

>>28276759
Not him but you moved the goalposts. None of what you said stopped them from being literally animals. Now that the original idea has been well countered, you added new criteria and will likely add new ones until the other person reaches a point where he cant counter, and you will use that to say you "won" the original argument.

>>28271672
>have been played
you sure have

File: youkai_watch_10.jpg (3MB, 3685x2400px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 3685x2400px

>>28275415
>>28275505
>>28276136
>>28276533
>STILL shitting on pokemon designs
Fine. Get a bigger load of it.

>>28271672
I agree with this sentiment
However a lot of Gen 1 Pokemon got "fixed" in Gen 2 or Gen 4 or Gen 6 with Megas and now potentially again in Gen 7 with Alolan forms. All the pandering really helps them stay relevant and it's hard to call Gen 1 designs bad because you see Magneton and then think, "but it turns into Magnezone, how can it be bad?"
Gen 2 gets very little love and it shows; I honestly rank it low often because most of the new Pokemon were mediocre then and never got fixed.
Looking back over the Pokedex I noticed that Gen 3 Pokemon were also extremely bland so that Gen has depreciated too.
Gen 4 is when Pokemon designs started to pick up and each Gen has improved thus far.
I'm a bit weary of Gen 7 so far but hopefully the dex is still very young in what we've seen thus far.

>>28276872
>fixed with Megas

Kill yourself

>>28276759
Venusaur's evo is based on a mysterious plant.
Charmander is based on the legendary salamander. Squirtle's evo is based on a tank.
Beedrill is based on a musketeer with elements of a spearman.
Nido line has a royalty theme.
Vulpix is based on the mythical nine tailed fox.
Dugtrio is based on whack a mole.
Farfetch'd is a clever representation of a Japanese saying.
Parasect is based on a bug that has had its tissue taken over.
Meowth is based on the maneki noko.
Slowbro has a shell that looks like a hermit crab.
Drowzee is based on a hypnotist.
Zapdos is obviously based on the thunderbird. Moltres, the phoenix.

>>28276872
>Gen 4 is when Pokemon designs started to pick up

kys pls

>>28276870
4th on the top looks like it could be Emboar's prevo.

>>28276872
>fixed with Megas
no

Magneton is also great, because Magentism is part of it's concept. Way better than say, Dugtrio

>>28276981
>venasaur's evo
>based on a mysterious plant

Sure, you're right about charmander, although its connections to a legendary salamander are literally just "it's a fire salamander." Salandit does this better by having both the fire and poison attributes.

Tanks typically only have one cannon, not two. Thankfully, Gen VI corrected this oversight.

>beedrill is based on a musketeer (as in, a guy who uses muskets)
>doesn't have a gun

Visually, the nido line has nothing to do with royalty. No crown like spikes, no jewels; the royalty theme can only be justified by the name of Nidoking and queen. The argument "they look powerful" doesn't hold water, as Pokemon generally do upon evolution.

Yes, Vulpix is based on a kitsune. That's all it's based on. A kitsune with the fire-typing. It's not fox+kitsune+fire, seeing as fox and kitsune are redundant.

Same thing for Diglett. It looks nothing like a genuine mole. It is just a wac-a-mole with ground-typing applied.

Yes about Farfetch'd.

Yes, Parasect is based on a parasite. It's a pretty good design.

That's all Meowth is based on. Once again, cat and the lucky coin cat overlap.

Slowbro is based on a hermit crab. You could argue it's based on a hippo, but it's really just an abstract design trying to convey dopiness. It's not meant to look like any animal in particular. Meaning it's design elements are dopiness+symbiosis. No animals involved, in actuality.

Yes for Drowzee. It's based on the dream-eating tapir of Japanese lore.

And what's Articuno? Really, the three of them are just birds with elements applied to them. Similar to the Charmander case, the only connections they have with this lore is their typings. Nothing else says "thunderbird" or "pheonix." Zapdos doesn't have a Native American totem pole inspired design. Moltres doesn't have powers of reincarnation. Both of those things would come in the next generation.

>>28277211
Yeah, picking apart the counterargument of the other guy to show why his arguments "don't count," using negative adjectives for the other and positives for your own (so many of your list could have had "that's all its based on" as well)

You are biased towards the newer Pokemon as a "sticking it to Genwunners" thing