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How would you rate red's team?

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How would you rate red's team?
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>>28267483
>3 Flying types
>Persian

Pretty shit. I think Red just overleved his Charizard like a 5 year old.
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Weak to sr/10
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>>28267483
Any team with Charizard is a team worthy of winning a league
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>>28267519
>>28267521
>people who didn't play Gen I
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I'm okay with everything except Dodrio, why?
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It rocks.
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>>28267483
Rock type kills:
charizard, dodrio, scyther, and lapras.
EQ the jolteon
Fighting move the persian.

Seems to me a rock/steel/ground type would murder him.
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>>28267557
I started with Red buddy. This team is just lame
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>>28267617
>people who sucked at Gen I
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>>28267483
Scyther and Jolteon are 10/10 in my book. Lapras is a solid 8/10. The rest I don't care for.

Technically my score would be 3/6 but I weigh pokemon I like heavily and try to give the rest a pass.

I would give it a solid 8/10.
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>>28267557
yeah, people don't know about gen I slash
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>>28267610
Ironic, considering his enemy is Giovanni who specializes in ground types.
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>>28267483

Decent by Gen 1 standards.
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Red's Champion Team in Origins is supposedly the team Satoshi Tajiri used to complete Pokemon Red the first time.

And its still pretty good by Gen 1 standards. There were no good Rock types or moves outside of Rock Slide, and they were all slow as shit and free to Lapras.
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>>28267780
>supposedly the team Satoshi Tajiri used to complete Pokemon Red the first time.
source?
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>>28267780
But didn't Red have his Charizard mega evolve? Clearly mega evolutions were not present in Red/Blue/FR/LG. Why not apply the other things that changed in further generations then like a wider variety in moves?
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>>28267610
>Steel
>gen 1
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>>28267802
Don't have one. There was a thread similar to this one a while back and another anon said that the lead animator said that was why Red's Team was those particular mons.
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>>28267519
>I think Red just overleved his Charizard like a 5 year old.

That was pretty clearly the case.
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>>28267836
Because the mega evolution part was for merchandise.
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>>28267876
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
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The very best like no one ever was
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>>28267899
>Nothing counts except for this one but lets ignore that it counts
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>>28267902
He said supposedly you autist.
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>stealth rock
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>>28267860
>Mega Evolution
>gen 1
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>>28267860
>forgot that origins was a partial commercial for xy with mega charizard at the end
>forgot that a lot of origins wasn't strictly following gen1
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>>28267780
>no good Rock types
Rhydon/Golem both saw/see heavy use in gen 1 and would stop everything on his team but lapras
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>>28267483
I don't know since everyone's fights except for Charizard's got offscreen'd
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>>28267617
Most of those Pokemon were broken as fuck during Gen 1.
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>>28268803
To be fair, that was the worst part of the OVA.
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>>28268735
lol
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>>28269708
The worst part was dragging on the Cubone stuff for a whole episode
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>>28269571
And rhydon did.
Can someone post the webm of red's team jobbing
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>>28269708
agree
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>>28267483
Absolutely delicious.


And that pussy cat. MMMMMM
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>>28270329
Hi, welcome to Gen 1 where Persian is going to crit your ass into oblivion.
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>>28267590
Speed crit fury attack and drill peck
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>>28269648
>Most of those Pokemon were broken as fuck during Gen 1.

PvP
Scyther wasn't good, Zard wasn't good, Dodrio wasn't good. Jolteon was good but very limited, Lapras was good but hardly broken, and Persian wasn't actually that good, despite STAB Slash.

As for in-game play:
Charizard is by far the worst starter
Lapras is underleveled shit and one of the worst picks possible for your water type due to it.
Persian is utterly mediocre for a very long time
Jolteon is good
Scyther is bad
Dodrio is solid but is pretty much just a Zard with a smaller movepool. Good as a Zard replacement if using another starter, shit on this team.
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Hi, welcome to Gen 1 where Persian's attack stat still kept it from being that good a mon, Slash simply kept him from being shit.
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>>28270722
>Scyther is bad

Can confirm false. My Scyther carried me through the Elite four and wasn't even over leveled. Any pokemon with good speed + slash was over powered in gen I.
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>>28267590
In Gen 1-3, Tri Attack was physical, so Dodrio got STAB and to use his best attacking stat.

Dodrio was actually pretty great in both R/B/Y and FR/LG!
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It's an acceptable team, since he had to use Zard. Maybe drop Dodrio for, say, Vileplume? And drop Jolteon for Electabuzz.
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>>28270753
Red has that team because it was one of the creator's teams when he beat Pokemon Green.

Simple as that.
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>>28267483
Giovanni gave him the persian
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>>28271025
I did this but with Sandslash. It felt good.
His slash attacks almost always crit
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bretty gud / 3
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>>28271175
>And drop Jolteon for Electabuzz.
And lose the best Bug attacker in the game at that point? A Crit machine at that?
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>>28267483
Should've had Tauros or Snorlax instead of Persian. Maybe replace Scyther with a Grass type for FWG Core autism.

Otherwise I'm good with it.
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>>28267483
It'spretty weak. I would change
Laprass -> Starmie (psy moves and thunderbolt)
dodrio -> aerodactyl
persian -> snorlax
scyter or jolteon -> nidoking (toxic + ground moves)
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>Playing through yellow
>Grinding on the E4 for when I transfer to S&M
>Mfw Blue's Alakazam always gets a crit on my Snorlax
Crits are based on speed to how fast is an Alakazam that this has happened 6 times in a row
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>>28267557
I too caught mewtwo in gen 1 using my mega charizard x.
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>>28267860
>magnemite
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>>28267802
>>28267876
>>28267902
>>28268735
It's strange, that factoid about Red's team in Origins has been circulating around on clickbaity websites like Buzzfeed for ages, Reddit takes it as fact and at one point it was mentioned on Bulbapedia (don't think it is anymore though), but I've never seen the original source for it. I'd happily believe it, but the source just doesn't seem to exist.
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>>28267483
>thinks its ok to have 3 flying types
>And, in addition to that, carry a lapras

It's like he doesn't even meta
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>>28267780
Based Tajiri using besteon. Although, his favorite isn't Poliwhirl?
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>>28267483
>all these Smogon memers shitting on this based team because it's has some competitive flaws

9/10 team, some of the best genwuns
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>>28267593
I get it.
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Crit/10
A smogonfag even before smogonfags began
>Charizard because Fire spin in gen 1 is broken
>Lapras to fuck with dragons and it was obvious that water types (besides psychic) dominated Gen 1
>Jolteon has the 2nd highest speed in Gen 1 ensuring crits
>The entire Persian slash exploit
>Dodrio for STAB Tri Attack which crits from time to time
>Scyther the best bug type of gen 1 and one of the best critical hitters
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>>28272331
>Ditching Gen I Persian
>Ever

I know Snorlax is based but it doesn't compare to crit happy Persian
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